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God declares Jesus God

Bible where the Holy Spirit is called a GOD.
Act 5:3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back for yourself part of the proceeds of the land?
Act 5:4 While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not at your disposal? Why is it that you have contrived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to man but to God.”
 
Act 5:3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back for yourself part of the proceeds of the land?
Act 5:4 While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not at your disposal? Why is it that you have contrived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to man but to God.”

thanks for this passage , it clears up a lot of questions; good research
 
Does Jesus ever claim to be GOD?

Yes.

Revelation 1:17-18 Jesus makes this claim. A claim God made in Isaiah. Something that God had directed Isaiah to say in 44:6.

Also, Jesus doesnt rebuke thomas when thomas says "my lord my God" John 20:28 thereby implying that Jesus is indeed God. Since there is only one God, this must be a fact that Jesus is one in three of the parts of God. Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

I cant remember who, but a poster here also suggested that the holy spirit was not God but just some force or inanimate object of sorts. Yet in John 14, 15, and 16 it shows pretty clear the holy spirit as a third member, and shows that he can be grieved Ephesians 4:30 and that he has will 1 Corinthians 12:4-7, so on and so forth. Also implied as God when Peter was chastising Ananias in Acts 5:3-4. Using the holy spirit interchangeably with God in the next verse.
 
There are "two seeds" referred to in the coming of Christ to the earth. Jesus was born "physically" according to the "seed of David". Christ the Son of God (God himself) is known as the "seed of Abraham" Abraham prophecized that God would provide Himself as a lamb! (Gen 22:8) God prophesied about the "seed" that would crush the serpent head. (Gen 3:15)

Rom 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Gal 3:16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ.
 
Yes.

Revelation 1:17-18 Jesus makes this claim. A claim God made in Isaiah. Something that God had directed Isaiah to say in 44:6.

Also, Jesus doesnt rebuke thomas when thomas says "my lord my God" John 20:28 thereby implying that Jesus is indeed God. Since there is only one God, this must be a fact that Jesus is one in three of the parts of God. Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

I cant remember who, but a poster here also suggested that the holy spirit was not God but just some force or inanimate object of sorts. Yet in John 14, 15, and 16 it shows pretty clear the holy spirit as a third member, and shows that he can be grieved Ephesians 4:30 and that he has will 1 Corinthians 12:4-7, so on and so forth. Also implied as God when Peter was chastising Ananias in Acts 5:3-4. Using the holy spirit interchangeably with God in the next verse.

Yes Jesus is Our God, The God of Humanity, but Jesus subordinated Himself of The Father God when He left His abode to become flesh and dwell among us.

As the risen Christ He offers Himself to God as the Living Sacrifice, at the right hand of the Father until All is Place under His feet.

Jesus never verbalize this personally to any human
 
There are "two seeds" referred to in the coming of Christ to the earth. Jesus was born "physically" according to the "seed of David". Christ the Son of God (God himself) is known as the "seed of Abraham" Abraham prophecized that God would provide Himself as a lamb! (Gen 22:8) God prophesied about the "seed" that would crush the serpent head. (Gen 3:15)

Rom 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Gal 3:16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ.

Jesus was born of the seed of a woman; not from man but from God.

Genesis 3: 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
 
Jesus was born of the seed of a woman; not from man but from God.

Genesis 3: 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
The "seed" of the woman came as a result of Mary being a descent of David through marriage to Joeseph. The "seed" of Abraham is Christ himself ( the Word that took on flesh).

The "child that was born..." (seed of David) was the body for which a Son would be given. (Christ the Lord) (Isa 9:6)

This why Jesus is called "the son of David", but he also called "the Son of God"
 
Yes Jesus is Our God, The God of Humanity, but Jesus subordinated Himself of The Father God when He left His abode to become flesh and dwell among us.

As the risen Christ He offers Himself to God as the Living Sacrifice, at the right hand of the Father until All is Place under His feet.

Jesus never verbalize this personally to any human

How would you explain Genesis 16?

In Genesis 16, that is Jesus talking to the maidservant Hagar. Yet, at the end there, you clearly see authority and power stating to Hagar " I will greatly multiply your descendants...."

Hagar names the place she was in and says “You are the God who sees me,” for she said, “I have now seen the One who sees me.”

This of course, is before he became a living sacrifice.

Jesus is also the one who spoke to Abram (Abraham) Genesis 22 and Moses Exodus 3. Yet we all clearly know there is one God right? However you see in these instances Jesus making these claims as God. Nor does he correct those who call him God. All this before death at the cross. All this even though "Angel..." meaning messenger "of the Lord" and still claims he is God.

"2 There the angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. 3 So Moses thought, “I will go over and see this strange sight—why the bush does not burn up.”

4 When the Lord saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, “Moses! Moses!”

And Moses said, “Here I am.”

5 “Do not come any closer,” God said."

Because God is all powerful, I would hardly put it past his power to inhabit flesh (Jesus-aka angel of the Lord-aka God) and do all the things recorded for us.

Lastly, Jesus didnt have to verbally say he was God. The 4 Gospels are meant to witness because in Jewish culture you needed 2 or more and here we have 4. It was John who said:

(John testified concerning him. He cried out, saying, “This is the one I spoke about when I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’” (Jn 1:15)

Jesus didnt correct him. And the Old testament clearly labels Jesus, God. And here John is basically stating Jesus as God "he who comes after me...he was before me", yet Jesus never corrected him.

Would Jesus lead people into a lie about himself? Make people believe he is God, when according to some people here, he wasn't? Mind you, this is before he was baptized, that John made this claim.

Are people so stubborn they literally need him to come out and say it at certain times of scripture for them to believe it? "I see Jesus made these claims, it just wasnt at a time that I deem it necessary in scripture to believe Jesus was God in the flesh". Thats just silly.

Jesus said, "unleavened bread and fruit of the vine" to be used for the lords supper. Does that give any authority to use steak and soda? He never said we couldnt right?

Just because he never himself said it directly, at a certain time you deem it an idea you would accept, doesnt make it wrong.

Fact: The Word was in the beginning, the Word was God, and the word was with God. The word became flesh.

The opponents against Jesus as a man being deity think they have the upper hand, yet they also lack any meaningful direct scripture that states he was not God. I am not that blind to see in this entire thread, not once could they muster up such a verse, yet they chastise me and others for not coming up with one ourselves (in their opinion that is).

Its like the pot calling the kettle black. However, there is PLENTY of scripture that alludes/implies Jesus as God during his time as a man. There is no man that can go through life without a single sin. Yet Jesus, born of a woman walked sinless the entire time. Only deity can do something like that. God. Jesus the Son, who claims to be God Revelation 1:17-18, Isaiah 44:6.

It does not seem very logical to say, He was God, then he wasnt, then he was again. He either was, or he was not. which is it?
 
I agree ONE God in three persons. Jesus is the fullness of the Godhead bodily Col 2:9. God is the three persons. They cannot be separated because they make up the ONE God. :)
Jesus is the son of God... not part of the one god... There is no one god .... There is only one god,!l
 
The "seed" of the woman came as a result of Mary being a descent of David through marriage to Joeseph. The "seed" of Abraham is Christ himself ( the Word that took on flesh).

The "child that was born..." (seed of David) was the body for which a Son would be given. (Christ the Lord) (Isa 9:6)

This why Jesus is called "the son of David", but he also called "the Son of God"
No this is about him sowing the seeds of decent between man and woman... Because neither will no there true place without him.
 
No this is about him sowing the seeds of decent between man and woman... Because neither will no there true place without him.
No, it's not! God is talking to the serpent not man in this verse!

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The "seed" of the woman is Christ who crushed Satan's head.
 
Acts 2:38
rhern53 said:
Yes Jesus is Our God, The God of Humanity, but Jesus subordinated Himself of The Father God when He left His abode to become flesh and dwell among us.

As the risen Christ He offers Himself to God as the Living Sacrifice, at the right hand of the Father until All is Place under His feet.

Jesus never verbalize this personally to any human
How would you explain Genesis 16?

In Genesis 16, that is Jesus talking to the maidservant Hagar. Yet, at the end there, you clearly see authority and power stating to Hagar " I will greatly multiply your descendants...."


Jesus was not in the flesh in Gen. 16. But Jesus in the flesh, as I stated before, never verbalize that He was God
 
Acts 2:38

How would you explain Genesis 16?

In Genesis 16, that is Jesus talking to the maidservant Hagar. Yet, at the end there, you clearly see authority and power stating to Hagar " I will greatly multiply your descendants...."


Jesus was not in the flesh in Gen. 16. But Jesus in the flesh, as I stated before, never verbalize that He was God

Again, Jesus didnt have to verbally say it, yet he did in the book of John:
Quote from unknown author
"The gospel of John, which presents Jesus Christ in His deity, is sometimes called the "I AM" book. Over and over again in the book of John, Jesus said, "I AM." To the learned Jew this phrase "I AM" was very significant. It was a claim by Jesus that He is God. Why? In the Old Testament when God called Moses to lead the nation of Israel out of Egypt, He told Moses to tell the nation that "I AM" has sent you (Exodus 3:13-15). "I AM" is the covenant God of Israel, Jehovah! Therefore, the great "I AM" is the designation for God to the nation of Israel and Jesus' statement "I AM" is a clear indication that He was saying, "I AM God."

Did Jesus say He was God? Jesus claimed equality with the God the Father. "Jesus said to them, 'My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I, too, am working.' For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God" (John 5:17-18).

"Then Jesus, still teaching in the temple courts, cried out, 'Yes, you know me, and you know where I am from. I am not here on my own, but he who sent me is true. You do not know him, but I know him because I am from him and he sent me'" (John 7:28-29).

"Then they asked him, 'Where is your father?' 'You do not know me or my Father,' Jesus replied. 'If you knew me, you would know my Father also'" (John 8:19) "'I tell you the truth,' Jesus answered, 'before Abraham was born, I am!'" (John 8:58). "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).

Therefore the Jews certainly understood that Jesus was claiming to be God and they sought to kill Him because of it. "'What about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, "I am God's Son"? Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does. But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.' Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp." (John 10:36-39). This is just one incident where the Jewish authority sought to take Jesus or to stone Him and He escaped out of their hands because His time had not yet come (John 8:20).

Jesus also affirmed His deity to the disciples. "'If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.' Philip said, 'Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.' Jesus answered: 'Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, "Show us the Father"? Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.'" (John 14:7-11, 20).

The seventeenth chapter of John records Jesus Christ's high priestly prayer. "After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: 'Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. I have brought you glory on earth by completing the work you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began'" (John 17:1-5).

In this wonderful prayer, Jesus says, "My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me" (John 17:20-21). Did Jesus say that He was God? Yes! Amen!
"

Also, we have witnesses like Paul who quite clearly declare:
Philippians 2
5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage

Other Commentaries on this chapter of Philippians 2:



Paul Does indeed claim Jesus was still God while a man on earth.

Jesus himself states this in the book of John, Exodus, Genesis, Revelations, take your pick. Yet, as a "man" he clearly states it in John, if you would bring to your attention the full grasp of the meaning "I AM" and his use with it. Also, the Jews knew full well what Jesus was saying otherwise they would not have accused him of "blasphemy" saying he was God.

Yes, he did claim such.

John 8:58
Commentaries
"c. Before Abraham was, I Am: With this dramatic phrase Jesus told them that He was the eternal God, existing not only during the time of Abraham but before unto eternity past. Jesus claimed to be the great I Am, the voice of the covenant God of Israel revealed at the burning bush (Exodus 3:13-14).

i. I Am: This is the third time in this chapter Jesus uses the phrase I Am (John 8:24, 8:28), and here in John 8:58. The ancient Greek phrase is ego emi, which was the same term used in the Greek translation of the Old Testament in Jesus’ day to describe the Voice from the burning bush. “All the previous lightning flashes pale into significance before the blaze of this passage.” (Barclay)

ii. In using the phrase I Am (John 8:24, 8:58, 13:19) Jesus used a clear divine title belonging to Yahweh alone (Exodus 3:13-14, Deuteronomy 32:39, Isaiah 43:10) and was interpreted as such by Jesus’ listeners (John 8:58-59). “I AM was recognized by the Jews as a title of deity.” (Tenney)

iii. “Before Abraham came into existence I am, eternally existent… No stronger affirmation of pre-existence occurs.” (Dods)

iv. “If Jesus’ claim was not well founded, then his words were openly blasphemous: he was using language that only God could use.” (Bruce)"


"[3.] Our Saviour gives an effectual answer to this cavil, by a solemn assertion of his own seniority even to Abraham himself (v. 58): "Verily, verily, I say unto you; I do not only say it in private to my own disciples, who will be sure to say as I say, but to you my enemies and persecutors; I say it to your faces, take it how you will: Before Abraham was, I am;' prin Abraam genesthai, egoµ eimi, Before Abraham was made or born, I am. The change of the word is observable, and bespeaks Abraham a creature, and himself the Creator; well therefore might he make himself greater than Abraham. Before Abraham he was,
  • First, As God. I am, is the name of God (Ex. 3:14); it denotes his self-existence; he does not say, I was, but I am, for he is the first and the last, immutably the same (Rev. 1:8); thus he was not only before Abraham, but before all worlds, ch. 1:1; Prov. 8:23.
  • Secondly, As Mediator. He was the appointed Messiah, long before Abraham; the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world (Rev. 13:8), the channel of conveyance of light, life, and love from God to man. This supposes his divine nature, that he is the same in himself from eternity (Heb. 13:8), and that he is the same to man ever since the fall; he was made of God wisdom, righteousness, sanctification, and redemption, to Adam, and Abel, and Enoch, and Noah, and Shem, and all the patriarchs that lived and died by faith in him before Abraham was born. Abraham was the root of the Jewish nation, the rock out of which they were hewn. If Christ was before Abraham, his doctrine and religion were no novelty, but were, in the substance of them, prior to Judaism, and ought to take place of it."


"58. Before Abraham was, I am--The words rendered "was" and "am" are quite different. The one clause means, "Abraham was brought into being"; the other, "I exist." The statement therefore is not that Christ came into existence before Abraham did (as Arians affirm is the meaning), but that He never came into being at all, but existed before Abraham had a being; in other words, existed before creation, or eternally (as Jhn 1:1 ). In that sense the Jews plainly understood Him, since "then took they up stones to cast at Him," just as they had before done when they saw that He made Himself equal with God ( Jhn 5:18 ).
 
Again, Jesus didnt have to verbally say it, yet he did in the book of John:
Quote from unknown author
"The gospel of John, which presents Jesus Christ in His deity, is sometimes called the "I AM" book. Over and over again in the book of John, Jesus said, "I AM." To the learned Jew this phrase "I AM" was very significant. It was a claim by Jesus that He is God. Why? In the Old Testament when God called Moses to lead the nation of Israel out of Egypt, He told Moses to tell the nation that "I AM" has sent you (Exodus 3:13-15). "I AM" is the covenant God of Israel, Jehovah! Therefore, the great "I AM" is the designation for God to the nation of Israel and Jesus' statement "I AM" is a clear indication that He was saying, "I AM God."

Did Jesus say He was God? Jesus claimed equality with the God the Father. "Jesus said to them, 'My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I, too, am working.' For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God" (John 5:17-18).

"Then Jesus, still teaching in the temple courts, cried out, 'Yes, you know me, and you know where I am from. I am not here on my own, but he who sent me is true. You do not know him, but I know him because I am from him and he sent me'" (John 7:28-29).

"Then they asked him, 'Where is your father?' 'You do not know me or my Father,' Jesus replied. 'If you knew me, you would know my Father also'" (John 8:19) "'I tell you the truth,' Jesus answered, 'before Abraham was born, I am!'" (John 8:58). "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).

Therefore the Jews certainly understood that Jesus was claiming to be God and they sought to kill Him because of it. "'What about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, "I am God's Son"? Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does. But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.' Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp." (John 10:36-39). This is just one incident where the Jewish authority sought to take Jesus or to stone Him and He escaped out of their hands because His time had not yet come (John 8:20).

Jesus also affirmed His deity to the disciples. "'If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.' Philip said, 'Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.' Jesus answered: 'Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, "Show us the Father"? Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.'" (John 14:7-11, 20).

The seventeenth chapter of John records Jesus Christ's high priestly prayer. "After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: 'Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. I have brought you glory on earth by completing the work you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began'" (John 17:1-5).

In this wonderful prayer, Jesus says, "My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me" (John 17:20-21). Did Jesus say that He was God? Yes! Amen!
"

Also, we have witnesses like Paul who quite clearly declare:
Philippians 2
5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage

Other Commentaries on this chapter of Philippians 2:



Paul Does indeed claim Jesus was still God while a man on earth.

Jesus himself states this in the book of John, Exodus, Genesis, Revelations, take your pick. Yet, as a "man" he clearly states it in John, if you would bring to your attention the full grasp of the meaning "I AM" and his use with it. Also, the Jews knew full well what Jesus was saying otherwise they would not have accused him of "blasphemy" saying he was God.

Yes, he did claim such.

John 8:58
Commentaries
"c. Before Abraham was, I Am: With this dramatic phrase Jesus told them that He was the eternal God, existing not only during the time of Abraham but before unto eternity past. Jesus claimed to be the great I Am, the voice of the covenant God of Israel revealed at the burning bush (Exodus 3:13-14).

i. I Am: This is the third time in this chapter Jesus uses the phrase I Am (John 8:24, 8:28), and here in John 8:58. The ancient Greek phrase is ego emi, which was the same term used in the Greek translation of the Old Testament in Jesus’ day to describe the Voice from the burning bush. “All the previous lightning flashes pale into significance before the blaze of this passage.” (Barclay)

ii. In using the phrase I Am (John 8:24, 8:58, 13:19) Jesus used a clear divine title belonging to Yahweh alone (Exodus 3:13-14, Deuteronomy 32:39, Isaiah 43:10) and was interpreted as such by Jesus’ listeners (John 8:58-59). “I AM was recognized by the Jews as a title of deity.” (Tenney)

iii. “Before Abraham came into existence I am, eternally existent… No stronger affirmation of pre-existence occurs.” (Dods)

iv. “If Jesus’ claim was not well founded, then his words were openly blasphemous: he was using language that only God could use.” (Bruce)"


"[3.] Our Saviour gives an effectual answer to this cavil, by a solemn assertion of his own seniority even to Abraham himself (v. 58): "Verily, verily, I say unto you; I do not only say it in private to my own disciples, who will be sure to say as I say, but to you my enemies and persecutors; I say it to your faces, take it how you will: Before Abraham was, I am;' prin Abraam genesthai, egoµ eimi, Before Abraham was made or born, I am. The change of the word is observable, and bespeaks Abraham a creature, and himself the Creator; well therefore might he make himself greater than Abraham. Before Abraham he was,
  • First, As God. I am, is the name of God (Ex. 3:14); it denotes his self-existence; he does not say, I was, but I am, for he is the first and the last, immutably the same (Rev. 1:8); thus he was not only before Abraham, but before all worlds, ch. 1:1; Prov. 8:23.
  • Secondly, As Mediator. He was the appointed Messiah, long before Abraham; the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world (Rev. 13:8), the channel of conveyance of light, life, and love from God to man. This supposes his divine nature, that he is the same in himself from eternity (Heb. 13:8), and that he is the same to man ever since the fall; he was made of God wisdom, righteousness, sanctification, and redemption, to Adam, and Abel, and Enoch, and Noah, and Shem, and all the patriarchs that lived and died by faith in him before Abraham was born. Abraham was the root of the Jewish nation, the rock out of which they were hewn. If Christ was before Abraham, his doctrine and religion were no novelty, but were, in the substance of them, prior to Judaism, and ought to take place of it."


"58. Before Abraham was, I am--The words rendered "was" and "am" are quite different. The one clause means, "Abraham was brought into being"; the other, "I exist." The statement therefore is not that Christ came into existence before Abraham did (as Arians affirm is the meaning), but that He never came into being at all, but existed before Abraham had a being; in other words, existed before creation, or eternally (as Jhn 1:1 ). In that sense the Jews plainly understood Him, since "then took they up stones to cast at Him," just as they had before done when they saw that He made Himself equal with God ( Jhn 5:18 ).


I agree with all that you say. The only thing I'm saying is He did not say direct to anyone "I AM GOD" Indirectly yes, many many times.

Why did they keep asking Him tell us "who are you"? Jesus asked His apostles "who do you say that I Am"

They wanted to hear it out the the Horses mouth (figure of speach)
 
Matthew 16:15 " He saith unto them, But who say ye that I AM?"
Matthew 16:16 " And Simon Peter answered and said; Thou art the Christ, The SON of the living GOD."
Matthew 16:17 "And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my FATHER which is in heaven."

I wonder why he didn't correct him and tell him no i'm GOD in the flesh as some portend he was. But rather he was happy that his Father had revealed who he was to someone, in this case Peter.
 
Matthew 16:15 " He saith unto them, But who say ye that I AM?"
Matthew 16:16 " And Simon Peter answered and said; Thou art the Christ, The SON of the living GOD."
Matthew 16:17 "And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my FATHER which is in heaven."

I wonder why he didn't correct him and tell him no i'm GOD in the flesh as some portend he was. But rather he was happy that his Father had revealed who he was to someone, in this case Peter.


Jesus came with humility as a servant. He was made lower than the angels. Therefore in human flesh Although God was with him.........(I cannot say it)

He suborned Himself from the Throne. In humiliation He must suffer and die too defeat death.

Satan thought Jesus was dead.
 
I agree with all that you say. The only thing I'm saying is He did not say direct to anyone "I AM GOD" Indirectly yes, many many times.

Why did they keep asking Him tell us "who are you"? Jesus asked His apostles "who do you say that I Am"

They wanted to hear it out the the Horses mouth (figure of speach)

Yes, and he did tell them...
(NIV) John 14
5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?”

6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”

9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?"

It is clear that the gospel writers and the authors of the epistles believed Jesus was God (Matthew 1:23, 28:20; Luke 1:32, 2:11; John 1:1–3, 18; 1 Corinthians 2:8, 8:6; Colossians 1:15-16, 2:9; Hebrews 1:1–3; James 2:1; 1 Peter 3:15; 2 Peter 1:1, 11).

So, he did actually tell them, "straight from the horses mouth". And it is abundantly clear, with this scripture, they understood he was God.
 
Matthew 16:15 " He saith unto them, But who say ye that I AM?"
Matthew 16:16 " And Simon Peter answered and said; Thou art the Christ, The SON of the living GOD."
Matthew 16:17 "And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my FATHER which is in heaven."

I wonder why he didn't correct him and tell him no i'm GOD in the flesh as some portend he was. But rather he was happy that his Father had revealed who he was to someone, in this case Peter.

You are referred back to post #133

And then I can ask a similar question: Why did Jesus not correct the Jews when they knew full well that he claimed to be God?

I can also ask: Why did Paul, John, AND Peter claim Jesus was God later in their epistles?

See, they must have understood what Jesus was saying in John 14, and it must have been reveled to Paul (who joined later) by the Holy Spirit, just who Jesus really was Colossians 1:15-16. Peter was standing next to Thomas and Philip in John 14 (See John 13). They knew full well what was said. So did the Jews that wanted to stone him.
 
Yes, and he did tell them...
(NIV) John 14
5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?”

6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”

9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?"

It is clear that the gospel writers and the authors of the epistles believed Jesus was God (Matthew 1:23, 28:20; Luke 1:32, 2:11; John 1:1–3, 18; 1 Corinthians 2:8, 8:6; Colossians 1:15-16, 2:9; Hebrews 1:1–3; James 2:1; 1 Peter 3:15; 2 Peter 1:1, 11).

So, he did actually tell them, "straight from the horses mouth". And it is abundantly clear, with this scripture, they understood he was God.


Show me the word "GOD" in your passages
 
I see in John 14:28 Jesus explicitly says " Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: (FOR MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I)

Case made that Jesus himself makes a distrinction between himself and his Father, and tells the disciples that the Father is greater than him!!!!
 
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