BLACKSHEEP
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The comment was made by At Peace,
B-A-C again...
B-A-C again...
Either you don't understand what "At Peace" said when he said you have to ask for the holy spirit, or you're confusing the indwelling of the holy spirit with the baptism of the holy spirit.
But I'm curious, where does the bible state we have to ask for the baptism of the holy spirit in order to be baptized in the holy spirit?
B-A-C said..."We must ask for the Holy Ghost in order for it to be given."
Here we go again.
The 120 people in the upper room in Acts 2. The 11 apostles (minus Judas) and Mary were there.
Were they saved before this day? The apostles had already been following Jesus for 3 years.
Were they ever baptized in the Holy Spirit before this day?
So, when did this change over to the Baptism of the holy spirit? What in the world does that have to do with asking for the holy spirit? Yes they were saved before that day, they believed in Christ so they were saved! What are you getting at? The Baptism was for empowerment, not for salvation.
B-A-C again...
Why has the discussion suddenly changed to the baptism of the holy spirit? The comment was made that we have to ask for the holy spirit for it to be given. I hope that in that illustrious Pentecostal mind of yours you do see a difference.OK, so that was the first time for anyone (except Jesus and John the Baptist (Luke 1:15)) to be baptized in the Holy Spirit.
B-A-C again...
No one in the Bible received the baptism of the Holy Spirit at the instant they were saved.
Saul (who became Paul) meets Jesus on the road to Damascus, in Acts 9:3-7;
But Paul doesn't receive the Holy Spirit until at least 3 days later ( Acts 9:17; )
In Acts 8 Philip and Peter go to Samaria. Some people there had already "received" the word fo God.
They had already been baptized in the name of Jesus ( Acts 8:16; )
But they don't receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit until Acts 8:17;
Acts 5:32; "And we are witnesses of these things; and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey Him."
In all 5 instances above, people were saved for a while before they were baptized in the Holy Spirit.
There is no place in the Bible it says people get baptized in the Holy Spirit just because they believe in Jesus.
Either you don't understand what "At Peace" said when he said you have to ask for the holy spirit, or you're confusing the indwelling of the holy spirit with the baptism of the holy spirit.
But I'm curious, where does the bible state we have to ask for the baptism of the holy spirit in order to be baptized in the holy spirit?