Show proof of your argument with scripture please.
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For one thing -- look at 1 Thessonians 4:15 - 18 -- this passage has believers joining Jesus Christ in the air -- the dead in Christ first and then those of us alive at that time next -- within seconds. And born-again believers will then be with Jesus Christ forever.
Then there is the passage talking about the workers in the field -- one is taken and the other left. And two people in bed --men and one is taken and the other left. In some cultures there's a family bed / multi-generations stay together and all sleep in the same 'bed' area.
And then Daniel 9:20 - end of chapter. The 70-weeks prophesy. The last week is still coming. That will be the last seven years. vs 27 = the final 7 yrs and the final 3 1/2 years is going to be the Great Tribulation.
That is in contrast to when Jesus Christ actually does come back the 2nd time in person and stands on the ground. Zechariah 14:4 and surrounding verses.
And what is the OC?
Then there is the passage talking about the workers in the field -- one is taken and the other left. And two people in bed --men and one is taken and the other left. In some cultures there's a family bed / multi-generations stay together and all sleep in the same 'bed' area.
And then Daniel 9:20 - end of chapter. The 70-weeks prophesy. The last week is still coming. That will be the last seven years. vs 27 = the final 7 yrs and the final 3 1/2 years is going to be the Great Tribulation.
That is in contrast to when Jesus Christ actually does come back the 2nd time in person and stands on the ground. Zechariah 14:4 and surrounding verses.
And what is the OC?
How about what Genesis says. Chapter 6 -- talks about giants being on the earth in those days. There's Always been speculation as to who the son's of God were. In some places they are referred to as the Nephilim. They are referred to as 'men of reknown'. vs 7 says "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast. vs. 13 ..... the earth is filled with violence ..... I will destroy them with the earth." The animals were brought to the ark so that After the flood they could be offered as offering unto God. And they could reproduce / replenish the earth as could Noah and his wife and their adult kids continue to have children.
And to 'whomever' was saying that purgatory is Biblical -- it's Not in Scripture. Scripture says that death is the end. Either a person is with Jesus Christ or in hell waiting for the Lake of Fire. And no , they aren't in 'hell' in order to get purged of their sins as a unbeliever and after a while be able to join others Jesus Christ.
Either a person accept Jesus Christ as personal Savior while alive in This world. Or........No second chances.
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Giants were the result of fallen angels breeding with human women...so there were giants on the Earth in those days. If one looks into scripture, and ignores the arguments, they will see that the term 'sons of God' only referred to angels, good and bad.
Nephilim refers to the offspring of the fallen angels and human women. No confusion there. My dear friend....They were referred by several names but they are the same beast. Lucifer is a good example of that kind of thing....Lucifer, Satan, the fallen one, the Devil, Appolyon, Accuser, Destroyer, Serpent (he likes that one), the Dragon, I call him the Dark One....But Sue they're all the same beast.
The Nephilim are also called the fallen ones, mighty men. They were larger and far, far stronger than men. Nephilim is a general term that covers all the offspring of the fallen angels...The giants themselves were called Raphaim. These guys were humanoid.
I'm not sure of why the comments about purgatory....did somebody mention them. I do agree with you there. There is no purgatory. Thats a Romanist joke to get your money.
LOL I turned 70 last week and I'm officially an old man. Time for my nap. Hugs on ya
Where, O Death, is Your Victory? 1Corinthians 15:50-52
50Now I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed — 52in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMPET. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.…
AT THE LAST TRUMPET :Tekiah Gedolah. Is the greatest and is the voice of arch angel and the SHOUT of God. This is at the End of the Tribulation, hence Last Trump of the Trumpets.
1 Thessalonians 4:17
17 then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord.
FIRST THE DEAD IN CHRIST SHALL RISE, The Elect who are NOT to be martyred and are given special care are the ones who will be transformed in a moment in a twinkling of and eye. This means
those who are chosen for this will experience an instant death and renewal of body and Paul reveals this as a mystery. Why? It is clear he is telling what will happen , that is no mystery.He is revealing a mystery which has already happened
To the forerunner :
Psalm 132:7-9
…7Let us go to His dwelling place; let us worship at His footstool. 8Arise, O LORD, to Your resting place, You and the ark of Your strength. 9May Your priests be clothed with righteousness, and Your saints shout for joy.…
Those chosen to be the Elect of the End of the age of sin will experience this too. The Lord took up with Him someone who is the ARK OF HIS STRENGTH, not His strength= giving to HIM and it is not made with human hands as the wooden Ark was, but is OF HIS STRENGTH. When The Lord went into the REST of His Father. Where is the Lords Rest? Who was He taking with Him? It is clear it was not the apostles because they had work to do. It is clear He did not take the Ark of the obsolete Covenant.
The New Covenant Hebrew 8:12-13
…12For I will forgive their iniquities and will remember their sins no more.” 13In speaking of a new covenant,” He has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.
The New Covenant Ark does not age and disappear, like a wooden Ark which would be consummated to the earth.
The Elect is the generation who will see all the Tribulation events.
The Lesson of the Fig Tree Matthew 24:33-35
…33So also, when you see all these things, you know that He is near, right at the door. 34Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.…
The Elect will not pass away from this world : (MEANING NOT DIE BEFORE the events of the tribulation )until all the trumpets sound and the Tribulation events happen. We will see heaven and earth pass away, but we will not pass away, before we see this. The mystery is that we are transformed by the finger of God and consummated to heaven not the earth. We are like the Ark He took up with Him at His ascension. The OLD COVENANT ark was consummated to the earth. This is why Paul says I tell you a mystery, because he knows what the meaning of the NEW ARK OF THE COVENANT is. Those chosen to not die through martyrdom, will not have their lives touched by men as Mary did not. We will only be taken from the earth by God.
Paul tells us :50Now I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. But then states a mystery...... 51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed .He is seeing the last generation for it is clear all the apostles died (Except for one , that is another discussion). It is clear throughout Christian history AD and the ascension the church has remained on earth. But Paul sees the future and these who do not sleep are instantly transformed into that which is imperishable. In the NEW COVENANT Mother Mary is the FIRST to have this happen, we the end time ELECT will be the second of the NEW COVENANT to have this happen. We will not pass away with heaven and earth, because we are His words. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.…He is the Word, we are His words we are those that have God's word written up our minds and hearts.
Hebrews 8:10
10For this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord. I will put My laws in their minds, and inscribe them on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they will be My people.…
This makes us his living words.
Revelation 11:15-19
The Seventh Trumpet
15 Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign for ever and ever.” 16 And the twenty-four elders who sit on their thrones before God fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17 saying,
“We give thanks to thee, Lord God Almighty, who art and who wast,
that thou hast taken thy great power and begun to reign.
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The 70th week of Daniel denotes the beginning of Jacobs troubles which could not happen until the Rev.12 prophecy began. The 70th week begins and equals , it will begin within the 70th anniversary of Israel. Watch!
Well, I guess you will see. If your still here then you will know I am right. This is not a SAVING doctrine "THE RAPTURE" it does not determine your salvation if you find you remain. To be saved is to remain in Christ through it all. I see NO scriptural support as I have given, so I will just take what you say as personal opinion in your personal hope. God Bless!
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Well, you must feel special. That "special" place you know is mentioned in the Letters of the Churches. Christ gave exact mention of you and your group by name in word obvious expression. I'm telling you , you can't make this stuff up. It is amazing how that which was written two thousand years ago is totes relevant today. I'm think about it? Your sect came about in the late 1960's early 70's and you have all received special mention LOOK:
Revelation 3
The Message to Sardis
3 “And to the angel of the church in Sardis write: ‘The words of him who has the seven spirits of God and the seven stars.
“‘I know your works; you have the name of BEING ALIVE , and you are dead. 2 Awake, and strengthen what remains and is on the point of death, for I have not found YOUR WORKS PERFECT in the sight of my God. 3 Remember then what you received and heard; keep that, and repent. If you will not awake, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what hour I will come upon you. 4 Yet you have still a few names in Sardis, people who have not soiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white, for they are worthy. 5 He who conquers shall be clad thus in white garments, and I will not blot his name out of the book of life; I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels. 6 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’
Yours is the ONLY denominational sect who uses the name "BORN AGAIN" a name which means being alive. Amazing isn't it! By name you have been mentioned. But the Lord is saying "no actually you are dead"! Why? You need to wake up and strengthen what remains and is on the point of death????? Meaning: what little of the Word which you apply and cling to- is too about to die for you. Your works are NOT PERFECT because you reject essential books and people of the Word. You refuse to use certain books or talk about certain people. You therefore, have an imperfect work because it is incomplete. You have heard the truth and you have heard of the books in which you have to embrace but refuse to see the truth of them.Only a few in this movement have NOT soiled their garments. SARDIS means RED ONES. The ones who have not soiled their garments accept the extra biblical books such as Enoch and others. They also have not tried to usurp the Word and the given authority of the Apostles and have not spoken badly of Mother Mary. They have not BLOTTED her name out as some FOUR LETTER word. Nor get UPSET at even the mention of her name. They also have not undermined the Apostles and their position. Those who have not done that will not have their names blotted out of the BOOK OF LIFE as they have BLOTTED out MARY'S and Books of essential study in Christianity. God renders the same verdict for the "BORN AGAIN" as they have done in their works- blotted out essential books and Mother Mary from their teachings. Those who have not done this and those who repent of this, in this sect, the Lord will confess your names, unlike what many have chosen NOT to do for Mother Mary.
Sounds as though you need to have an ear to hear what the Spirit says to the CHURCHES and WAKE UP!
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During the times of the early Church there were many false teachers who looked like real Christians living among the children of God. Their purpose was to deceive the Church into believing something false. Most of these false brothers were self deceived, so what they taught they really believed to be true. This is how Satan works by blinding the mind, and the heart of the unregenerate man so that the light of the Gospel would not shine on them.
Paul the Apostle wrote first, and second Thessalonians to correct some false teaching that had been spread through out the Church's. There was a false teacher(s) who wrote letter(s) to the Church(s) telling them something to the effect that they had missed the rapture, and that the second coming of Christ was about to happen. They even forged the Apostle Paul's name on these letters saying that it came from Paul. Obviously, this upset many in the Church, because this was completely opposite to what Paul had taught them earlier.
2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 THAT YE BE NOT SOON SHAKEN IN MIND, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, NOR BY LETTER AS FROM US, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Paul again tells the Church that the second coming of Jesus Christ (not the rapture) will not happen until a couple things happen first.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: FOR THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME, EXCEPT THERE COME A FALLING AWAY FIRST, AND THAT MAN OF SIN BE REVEALED, the son of perdition;
It is very interesting that the word for, “FALLING AWAY” is the Greek word, “APOSTASIA” which means, “DEPARTURE, TO DEPART”. There must be a “DEPARTURE” first, and then the man of sin be revealed. In other words the man of sin can not be revealed until there is a departure first!! Some people believe that the departure would be some in the Church departing from the faith. Well, that has been going on since the beginning of Christianity, that's nothing new. Many, many people who have not kept the Word of God in themselves who go to Church will always fall away eventually. Jesus tells us this in the parable of the “sower”.
In the Amplified bible, in its foot notes, it says the word “FALLING AWAY” means “THE DEPARTURE OF THE CHURCH!! Of course, there will for sure be a DEPARTURE of a certain group of people from another group of people, so that what happens to one group of people, will not happen to the other!!! This is why Jesus told his followers to “watch, and pray that you may be counted worthy to escape those things that will come upon the earth”(Luke 21:36)
The tribulation period can not even begin to start, until the Antichrist is revealed, and that can not happen until the Church has left the building!!! If we don't believe verse 3 as the departure of the Church, don't worry, because the Apostle Paul tells us the exact same thing a couple verses later.
2Th 2:5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?
2Th 2:6 And YOU KNOW WHAT IS RESTRAINING HIM NOW SO THAT HE MAY BE REVEALED IN HIS TIME.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only HE WHO NOW RESTRAINS IT WILL DO SO UNTIL HE IS OUT OF THE WAY.
2Th 2:8 And THEN THE LAWLESS ONE WILL BE REVEALED, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming. (ESV)
There is a “POWER” that is “RESTRAINING” this man of sin (Antichrist) from being revealed in his time. Who could this person be who is “RESTRAINING” the wicked one from being revealed? It is the exact same people who have already departed the earth, who alone had that power over all the works of the evil one!!!
Jesus Christ himself gave his Church that “AUTHORITY” in his “NAME” to have dominion over all the works of the devil including the devil himself!!! (Luke 10:19) The “POWER” that backed up that “AUTHORITY” was the Holy Spirit, and he too was given unto the Church!! (Acts 1:8)
Someone might say, “it will the Holy Ghost (Spirit) who will be taken away, so the Antichrist can be revealed”
There is only one small problem with that kind of thinking. Jesus said when the Holy Ghost (Spirit) comes he will abide with be us forever!!
John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and HE SHALL GIVE YOU ANOTHER COMFORTER, THAT HE MAY ABIDE WITH YOU FOR EVER;
John 14:26 BUT THE COMFORTER, WHICH IS THE HOLY GHOST, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
If the Holy Spirit goes, so does the Church!!!
The body of Christ, which is the Church, is the only thing restraining, and holding back the Antichrist from being revealed to this world. Once the Church is gone (raptured, taken out of the way) the Antichrist will be revealed, and all hell is going to break out on planet earth. May God have mercy on all those who remain!!
Paul the Apostle wrote first, and second Thessalonians to correct some false teaching that had been spread through out the Church's. There was a false teacher(s) who wrote letter(s) to the Church(s) telling them something to the effect that they had missed the rapture, and that the second coming of Christ was about to happen. They even forged the Apostle Paul's name on these letters saying that it came from Paul. Obviously, this upset many in the Church, because this was completely opposite to what Paul had taught them earlier.
2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 THAT YE BE NOT SOON SHAKEN IN MIND, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, NOR BY LETTER AS FROM US, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Paul again tells the Church that the second coming of Jesus Christ (not the rapture) will not happen until a couple things happen first.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: FOR THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME, EXCEPT THERE COME A FALLING AWAY FIRST, AND THAT MAN OF SIN BE REVEALED, the son of perdition;
It is very interesting that the word for, “FALLING AWAY” is the Greek word, “APOSTASIA” which means, “DEPARTURE, TO DEPART”. There must be a “DEPARTURE” first, and then the man of sin be revealed. In other words the man of sin can not be revealed until there is a departure first!! Some people believe that the departure would be some in the Church departing from the faith. Well, that has been going on since the beginning of Christianity, that's nothing new. Many, many people who have not kept the Word of God in themselves who go to Church will always fall away eventually. Jesus tells us this in the parable of the “sower”.
In the Amplified bible, in its foot notes, it says the word “FALLING AWAY” means “THE DEPARTURE OF THE CHURCH!! Of course, there will for sure be a DEPARTURE of a certain group of people from another group of people, so that what happens to one group of people, will not happen to the other!!! This is why Jesus told his followers to “watch, and pray that you may be counted worthy to escape those things that will come upon the earth”(Luke 21:36)
The tribulation period can not even begin to start, until the Antichrist is revealed, and that can not happen until the Church has left the building!!! If we don't believe verse 3 as the departure of the Church, don't worry, because the Apostle Paul tells us the exact same thing a couple verses later.
2Th 2:5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?
2Th 2:6 And YOU KNOW WHAT IS RESTRAINING HIM NOW SO THAT HE MAY BE REVEALED IN HIS TIME.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only HE WHO NOW RESTRAINS IT WILL DO SO UNTIL HE IS OUT OF THE WAY.
2Th 2:8 And THEN THE LAWLESS ONE WILL BE REVEALED, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming. (ESV)
There is a “POWER” that is “RESTRAINING” this man of sin (Antichrist) from being revealed in his time. Who could this person be who is “RESTRAINING” the wicked one from being revealed? It is the exact same people who have already departed the earth, who alone had that power over all the works of the evil one!!!
Jesus Christ himself gave his Church that “AUTHORITY” in his “NAME” to have dominion over all the works of the devil including the devil himself!!! (Luke 10:19) The “POWER” that backed up that “AUTHORITY” was the Holy Spirit, and he too was given unto the Church!! (Acts 1:8)
Someone might say, “it will the Holy Ghost (Spirit) who will be taken away, so the Antichrist can be revealed”
There is only one small problem with that kind of thinking. Jesus said when the Holy Ghost (Spirit) comes he will abide with be us forever!!
John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and HE SHALL GIVE YOU ANOTHER COMFORTER, THAT HE MAY ABIDE WITH YOU FOR EVER;
John 14:26 BUT THE COMFORTER, WHICH IS THE HOLY GHOST, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
If the Holy Spirit goes, so does the Church!!!
The body of Christ, which is the Church, is the only thing restraining, and holding back the Antichrist from being revealed to this world. Once the Church is gone (raptured, taken out of the way) the Antichrist will be revealed, and all hell is going to break out on planet earth. May God have mercy on all those who remain!!
The Restrainer is Micheal the Arch angel who fights day and night with satan. If any has read the writings of Enoch we learn that in heaven there are many levels. We know that before the Book Of Revelation was written satan and 1/3 of the heavenly host were cast down for rebellion. The casting down of Revelation 12 therefore, is something different.
The War in Heaven Revelation 12:11-13
…11They have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; and they did not love their lives so as to shy away from death. 12Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea; with great fury the devil has come down to you, knowing he has only a short time.” 13And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child.…
Micheal has protected the faithful throughout history- that satan and the gates of hell shall not prevail against Christ's church. Though staan has always stood before the Woman to devour her child she prevails to the end. Now is what we have all been waiting for- The End of the Age. The elect of this generation are the End Game. It is up to us to preserve all Truth . satan has been able to dilute the truth in many throughout the ages and has spewed forth a lot of water to try and drown the Bride of this End of the Age.
So it would seem up to the point that is coming, based on what Rev.12:-13 says , satan has been able to stand outside of the gates of heaven and accuse the saints before God. It is true that the Body of Christ has been able to preserve the Word but the Restrainer is the Prince of Angels Micheal.
When satan is cast down from even the cosmos now, he will not even be able to ascend to space and the regions beyond, which the end of space is the beginning or gates of Heaven. He will NOW bring down a 1/3 of the stars of the heavens, from that which is called space . When He is cast down the 1st Woe, the first Trumpet will have been sounded. Many will fall away through the Woes, Trumpets, Bowls and seals. ONLY the ELECT of this generation will be preserved through all calamities.
The mystery of the Letters, which pertain to our time is - Of all the Letters only 2 have no admonishments. So since all the other letters do what can we deduce from that equation? That if admonishments are heeded and applied then you can only
be off the Two remaining letters which stand . This is the mystery of the fullness of Gentile and Jew. And God actually gives an exact number for how many will be the fullness of the Bride of Rev.12 : 1. Rev.7 of Jew 144,000 chosen out of every Tribe of Israel.
2. Rev.14 144,000 those given a new song the everlasting gospel professed to ALL nations by the angel giving it to the GENTILES. Many who are not of this Elect will fall away= be killed by the judgements. The first one is about to pass, satan and the First woe is coming upon the earth. He will inhabit a man at this point- when he is cast down. You will know the restrainer has been removed (ARCH ANGEL Michael )when you see the intense cosmic events begin. The distress of nations is at hand.
Rev7 = Smyrna, Rev14= Philadelphia. So, in the end only Anointed Oil and Brotherly will stand. Now we must make it to the attaining spoken of in Daniel 12- (it is interesting how this coincides with Rev12). Anyway, when the Fall of Babylon comes Rev18, we will be gathered together for the Hallelujah of Rev19, the wedding feast of the Lamb. This happens after the sixth seal -which is opened upon the the resurrection of the TWO witnesses and is the Second Woe passed. A Third Woe is yet to come and comes quickly. The third Woe coincides with the last Trumpet and return of Christ. As the First Woe Of Rev.12 coincides with the first Trumpet the rest are within and in between the second and leaving the Last to Blow and coincide with the third Woe There is too much to post in this one post. But if you follow then you get the picture, you want to be established in the Sound doctrine of Christ in Brotherly as a gentile, before the Trumpets sound. I believe God is giving His elect a heads up with TRUMP, which derives from Trumpet and it will be during his presidency that the TRUMPETS will begin to sound. A prophetic sign is like a sing on the road. It is proclaimed before you get to the point indicated by the sign of the Times which The Lord says the believers will recognize. The signs are like ,for example: in our road travels you see signs on the side of the Road that say "FALLING ROCK ZONES", we therefore know what is ahead and can be prepared to look out that we may overt the affect of them. The way we overt in this case ,is by having the Fathers name upon us before thw Falling Rocks of the Zone happen.Get it! Ist Trumpet.
The First Four Trumpets Rev.8:6-8
6And the seven angels with the seven trumpets prepared to sound them. 7Then the first angel sounded his trumpet, and hail and fire mixed with blood were flung to the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, along with a third of the trees and all the green grass. 8Then the second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned to blood,…
The Gentile nations will be affected by the First Trumpet. Rev.7 shows that nothing- concerning cosmic events will affect Israel yet , for all are not sealed out of all the Tribes, war for Israel yes but not cosmic judgements for them yet, soon though, for Gentile nations sooner, even so at the door,. God Bless!
The War in Heaven Revelation 12:11-13
…11They have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; and they did not love their lives so as to shy away from death. 12Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea; with great fury the devil has come down to you, knowing he has only a short time.” 13And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child.…
Micheal has protected the faithful throughout history- that satan and the gates of hell shall not prevail against Christ's church. Though staan has always stood before the Woman to devour her child she prevails to the end. Now is what we have all been waiting for- The End of the Age. The elect of this generation are the End Game. It is up to us to preserve all Truth . satan has been able to dilute the truth in many throughout the ages and has spewed forth a lot of water to try and drown the Bride of this End of the Age.
So it would seem up to the point that is coming, based on what Rev.12:-13 says , satan has been able to stand outside of the gates of heaven and accuse the saints before God. It is true that the Body of Christ has been able to preserve the Word but the Restrainer is the Prince of Angels Micheal.
When satan is cast down from even the cosmos now, he will not even be able to ascend to space and the regions beyond, which the end of space is the beginning or gates of Heaven. He will NOW bring down a 1/3 of the stars of the heavens, from that which is called space . When He is cast down the 1st Woe, the first Trumpet will have been sounded. Many will fall away through the Woes, Trumpets, Bowls and seals. ONLY the ELECT of this generation will be preserved through all calamities.
The mystery of the Letters, which pertain to our time is - Of all the Letters only 2 have no admonishments. So since all the other letters do what can we deduce from that equation? That if admonishments are heeded and applied then you can only
be off the Two remaining letters which stand . This is the mystery of the fullness of Gentile and Jew. And God actually gives an exact number for how many will be the fullness of the Bride of Rev.12 : 1. Rev.7 of Jew 144,000 chosen out of every Tribe of Israel.
2. Rev.14 144,000 those given a new song the everlasting gospel professed to ALL nations by the angel giving it to the GENTILES. Many who are not of this Elect will fall away= be killed by the judgements. The first one is about to pass, satan and the First woe is coming upon the earth. He will inhabit a man at this point- when he is cast down. You will know the restrainer has been removed (ARCH ANGEL Michael )when you see the intense cosmic events begin. The distress of nations is at hand.
Rev7 = Smyrna, Rev14= Philadelphia. So, in the end only Anointed Oil and Brotherly will stand. Now we must make it to the attaining spoken of in Daniel 12- (it is interesting how this coincides with Rev12). Anyway, when the Fall of Babylon comes Rev18, we will be gathered together for the Hallelujah of Rev19, the wedding feast of the Lamb. This happens after the sixth seal -which is opened upon the the resurrection of the TWO witnesses and is the Second Woe passed. A Third Woe is yet to come and comes quickly. The third Woe coincides with the last Trumpet and return of Christ. As the First Woe Of Rev.12 coincides with the first Trumpet the rest are within and in between the second and leaving the Last to Blow and coincide with the third Woe There is too much to post in this one post. But if you follow then you get the picture, you want to be established in the Sound doctrine of Christ in Brotherly as a gentile, before the Trumpets sound. I believe God is giving His elect a heads up with TRUMP, which derives from Trumpet and it will be during his presidency that the TRUMPETS will begin to sound. A prophetic sign is like a sing on the road. It is proclaimed before you get to the point indicated by the sign of the Times which The Lord says the believers will recognize. The signs are like ,for example: in our road travels you see signs on the side of the Road that say "FALLING ROCK ZONES", we therefore know what is ahead and can be prepared to look out that we may overt the affect of them. The way we overt in this case ,is by having the Fathers name upon us before thw Falling Rocks of the Zone happen.Get it! Ist Trumpet.
The First Four Trumpets Rev.8:6-8
6And the seven angels with the seven trumpets prepared to sound them. 7Then the first angel sounded his trumpet, and hail and fire mixed with blood were flung to the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, along with a third of the trees and all the green grass. 8Then the second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned to blood,…
The Gentile nations will be affected by the First Trumpet. Rev.7 shows that nothing- concerning cosmic events will affect Israel yet , for all are not sealed out of all the Tribes, war for Israel yes but not cosmic judgements for them yet, soon though, for Gentile nations sooner, even so at the door,. God Bless!
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Oh no Hadsa Michael the archangel is NOT the one who restrains...It IS the church...The One New Man. Whom the bible speaks about. He is the one who restrains
Hi Hadsa -- for one thing being born-again is a term used in John 3: 1-7 -- Jesus Christ uses that term when talking with Nicodemus -- a ruler of the Jews. It is explained to him that a person is born physically first but needs to also be born Again Spiritually in order to see the kingdom of God.
What 'sect' is it that you're identifying me with?
I do recall that back sometime there was a John 'something' who found Biblical support For the 'rapture' of the Church. It's been in God's Word ever since the beginning when God put it there.
And what Really amazes me (blows my mind, so to speak) is your bring up the church of Sardis which is one of 7 churches in Revelation 2-3. I see no connection between being born-again and being identified with that particular church.
So -- apparently -- what you're saying -- is that a born-again person has not accepted the book of Enoch and has spoken badly of Mother Mary? The born again sect have blotted out essential books and Mother Mary from their teachings.
Have you read God's Word? Mary was , indeed , a young virgin woman who was betrothed to Joseph (engaged to him). For whatever reason, God saw fit to choose Mary to become the mother of Jesus Christ so He could come into this world to die on the cross and rise again after the 3 days. The Holy Spirit Did come upon her. She and Joseph waiting until after Jesus birth to have children together. His brother, James, is specifically mentioned in New Testament. And there were a few sisters. She was at the cross for Jesus Christ's crucifixion -- and one of the disciples was asked to take care of her after that. After the cross, there's no mentioned of either Mary or Joseph. There were many Mary's around at that time. She Might have been of the 'other' Mary's mentioned at the tomb.
Then in Luke 1--Mary is visiting with Elizabeth. And we have vs 46 - 55. "And Mary said: My soul magnified he Lord, And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior. For He has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant -- For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed. ...."
There is a huge difference between the RCC and the New Testament church that was started with Jesus Christ as the cornerstone. Without the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ there would be No Christianity. Put in a Positive statement -- Because of the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ we DO have Christianity.
And 1 Timothy 2:5 " For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus. Who have Himself a ransom for all, ......" Which means that all a person needs to do to talk with God is go through Jesus Christ -- no human person is needed. that's what a mediator is and does. Now -- if a person wants a person to pray with them about something, great. But that other person is not a 'go-between' / mediator/ between the person asking someone to pray with them and themselves.
I Do realize that the RCC considers those who have either left the RCC or have never intended to become RCC as being rebells . The Protestant church -- protestors -- Martin Luthern being one. But the Lutheran, Methodist and Presbyterian Churches were the initial protestant churches. The Baptists came from a different line. We're a bit more complicated.
Well -- Jesus Christ died on the cross to save sinners / all of mankind. (that is my response to your very last statement that you put in 'extra-large, dark high-lighted print.) You wanted to make Very sure that I saw all of it. It's interesting to hear you refer to Christianity as a denominational sect.
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Even if it is Micheal the Arc, was the strainer which he is not, man was given authority over all the works of God's hands which included angels.
All angels have been sent forth to be ministers for those who are heirs of salvation.
Heb 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Heb 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
How angels respond to man is by the word of God which we speak.
Psa 103:20 Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.
All angels have been sent forth to be ministers for those who are heirs of salvation.
Heb 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Heb 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
How angels respond to man is by the word of God which we speak.
Psa 103:20 Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.
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