The Cosmos

[Bendito]

Bendito -- the books of Jasher and Enoch Are mentioned in Scripture. But they are Not part of the Canon that we have.

Secular biology is based on evolution / a Very OLD earth. A lot of people buy into evolutionary thought because it's the 'way to go'

Then, what do You do with the Genesis account and each day of creation -- six days in all -- consisting of " and the evening and the morning were the 1st day and through all the rest of the days.

"We" celebrate Christmas because it's event of Jesus Christ coming into this world To lead us to His Father and to die on the cross for our sins.

And, whether a person is a Jew or Gentile -- we all - at the moment of our personal Salvation-- become 'brothers and sisters' in Christ.

That does NOT mean that a very old Earth necessitates a belief in stupid theories like evolution... People have stupid theories all the time but we don't have to subscribe to them.
Notice, Sue, we call Genesis vs 2-Genesis 2:1 the creation but God already created it in vs 1 The word used is "created" Past tense, a complete work completed. Then it became without form and void, then God restored it. Of course, He had to create the animals on it...But thats all He created in these verses.
Look at verse 9 as an example...
9 God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear,” and that is how it was. 10 God called the dry land Earth, the gathering together of the water he called Seas, and God saw that it was good.
Sue...The land was already there under the water..God called for it to come up.

Now as to Enoch and Jasher et al. The book of Enoch was canon until eight hundred years into Christianity when the Romanist Church conspired to have it removed because it negated some of that church's teachings. They could not have canon contradicting their lies. Enoh was there and saw and experienced these things...He is a witness. He is a prophet, a friend of God...That makes him a credible witness don't you think?
If you do a word study you will find...In the beginning God created the heaven/heavens and the Earth.
2 And the Earth became without form and void/shapeless.

 

[Sue D.]

You DO realize that there are Many people in acadamia who feel very strongly Against God's Word and very Pro evolution. Evolution provides an ex-God explanation for how everything Did get here. After all -- it's obvious that this world Is Here

Only thing is -- with evolution -- there's no reason for anything To be 'here'. Because everything Does have to have a source For being.

Okay -- how about 'this'? Genesis 1:1 is a summary statement and the rest of the story is expanded upon in the next chapters.

What you're talking about is the Gap Theory.

Will continue shortly -- going to research more on the Gap. I found several artiles -- my printer won't work

 

[Hadsa]

Lie of the Theory of Evolution

Darwinism is the theory of biological evolution developed by the English naturalist Charles Darwin (1809-
1882) and others,



stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations
that increase the



individual's ability to compete, survive, and reproduce.



Evolution is the false teaching which states: All present day creatures evolved from a lesser form- and in time
also, each individual species added to itself DNA which



it did not previously have- such as humans evolved from primates.



LIE! The idea that a lesser form can evolve into a greater form is ridiculous. No creature can add DNA to itself.
It has never happened and certainly no proof of- even the possibility of it happening has ever been presented. That is why it is a THE-
ORY!
Yet in schools they present this as fact and do not allow for creationism to be taught. Creationism destroys the
theory with fact.
My Existence of God does just that which I shared in a post reply "Has Anybody Listen to this Woman", thread. Science is full of contradictions and
half truths. Half a truth is the greatest lie of all.
For it is meant to deceive. A lie is a lie when bold faced. But, the father of lies likes to mix truth in to malign the truth.
Such as the understanding of adaptations.

ADAPTATION: 1. the action or process of adapting or being adapted.
2. Example- a movie, television drama, or stage play that has been adapted from the written work, typically a
novel.
3. Biology- a change or process of change by which a organism or species become better suited for it's environment
Adaptation is not a process of adding new DNA sequences- but, a tapping into preexisting codes which surface
under strain or stress from external changes. All creatures have this. It is an adaptation for survival. People have this too. If
you look at the diversity of cultures each has adapted through time- things like no need for wisdom teeth. Some people do not get them
and they are not even present in the jaw. At one time all people got them, why? Early man was a hunter and gather, tooth lose hap-
pened often and large molars were necessary to replace tooth lose. Yeah, something this simple can give understanding of adaptation. People
today, who are still hunters and gatherers like African people, and aboriginal peoples who still live as the ancient peoples- still get
wisdom teeth. The European man tends to not get them even if they are present in the jaw they never come in, or they are not present at all.
Another example: Salt- having been introduced into mans diet refined mans bones. This is interesting since Christ
calls Christians the salt of the earth. We help refine souls.

Animal adaptation is the same. Like frogs- in a same sex environment will suddenly change sex- for reproduc-
tive purposes. They did not add new DNA codes. This is encoded in their DNA from the time of Creation. Fish, for example have de-
veloped lungs to breath on land.

It is the stress of the environment which causes them to tap into this necessity to survive. They crawl on land,
bury themselves and wait for rain.
Now , the question is, what brought on the necessity for adaptation? For we as Christians no God made every-
thing perfect. What caused the fall of man and creation to be stressed? Lucifer, Satan (Betrayer of God). His presents in this world has
made for the necessity of tapping into the DNA for adaptation.

Adaptation is good especially for animals. However, no DNA IS EVER ADDED. EVOLUTION IS A LIE! It
protects itself under the guise of Theory, conjecture, opinion- which is a lie "Let what you say be simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything more than this
comes from evil"- (Matthew 5:37).
What does adaptation have to do with evolution? Well, by pairing up this truth with evolution, satan tries to le-
gitimize his claims.
Remember a half truth is the greatest lie of all; because it is meant to deceive. No one can argue , adaptation is
not present in all creation, right? However , evolution states lesser creatures evolve into greater ones with no proof to back up
claims- theory-conjecture.
Nothing in God's creation ever changed it species of itself. Yet as I said they have forced this theory down the throats of
people since childhood.
They condition and brainwash the mind for years, you are not allowed , in classrooms to reject this garbage.
You get an F when you do.
Evolution says that because we share 96% of the same DNA as apes we must have evolved from them? NON-
SENSE! What this means is God- in creating man added 4% more DNA which makes us completely different. That 4% plus a soul from
His heart makes us in His like and image. Similarities do not make equal. Each step in the DNA of species is what separates each
species from the other. Add and thus, you have a different creature. The ingredients God puts together- from the basic to the complex. No
matter what science says ......if evolution were true all species would have already evolved to their highest form and the previous one would
no longer exist.
So, satan wants mankind to believe we are apes. Why? He hates man! We created after the angels ,(for they
were created first, ) and last we were made-( after all things in creation)yet are to be first, above angels. The example of our glory is
Christ. " Beloved, we are God's children, it does not yet appear what we shall be, but we know that when He appears we shall be like Him, for we shall
see Him as He is. And everyone who thus hopes in Him purifies himself as He is pure.( 1 John 3:2-3)

Darwin was a false teacher who thought he was of lofty mind- who taught the lie of evolution. His place is in
the lake of fire where all false teachers and false prophets go.

Let us look at this false teacher's thoughts on Christianity: A post from the( Atheist Republic. com)

"I can indeed hardly see how anyone ought to wish Christianity to be true; for if so the plain language

of the text seems to show that the men who do not believe, and this would include my father, brother and
almost all my friends, will be everlastingly punished. And to me this is a damnable doctrine"



ANOTHER QUOTE: " We must , however, acknowledge, as it seems to me, that man with all his noble qualities... still
bears in his bodily frame the indelible stamp of his lowly origin."

"By considering the embryological structure of man- the homologies which he presents with lower animals...
We thus learnt that man is descened from a hairy quadruped... probably arboreal in its habits, and an inhabitant
of the old world."



REALLY!!!



Now for some contradiction: Darwin's theory of Natural Selection-



"More individuals are produced each generation that can survive.Phenotypic variations exists among individuals and the variation is heritable.
Those individuals with heritable traits better suited to the environment will survive."



YET SAYS:



" I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created
parasitic wasp with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars"



Contradiction! Doesn't this make the wasp better suited for survival?



What did he say above that?



Science is full of contradictions and half truths. Darwin hated God and could not possibly teach anything
in wisdom. He was of the knowledge of satan. YESHUA (Jesus) SHALL CRUSH THE HEAD OF THE SER-
PENT!
Science with this “Theory” has thrown so much garbage at the body of Christ. And has produced many Ma-
sonic persons , dangerous people -who have brought great sorrows to man. It is time for pay back!

Science will also , through fallen angel knowledge produce a mark to be placed in the flesh of men . This mark
will render men irredeemable. The fallen angels went into woman and produced Nephilim through mixing their
spirit seed with woman . Supernatural beings can manipulate the natural realm and can become form.
Well, through technology they have found a new way to create their offspring. It will be
of man. They will corrupt men's DNA. This alien garbage is a fallen angel deception, to make those who are
unlearned of man prepared for the accepting of this mark. This is the "RED STEW" spoken of in the story of Jacob.
It will be accepted during a time of hardship, and labor, and strife.It is an non- kosher mark, so to speak.
it will be cooked up by the satanic Masonic rulers in Israel. The Fifth Trumpet Rev.9:5-7

…5The locusts were not given power to kill them, but only to torment them for five months, and their torment was like the stinging of a scorpion. 6In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will long to die, but death will escape them. 7And the locusts looked like horses prepared for battle, with something like crowns of gold on their heads, and faces like the faces of men.…I will reveal this understanding soon. God Bless!

 

[Hadsa]

That does NOT mean that a very old Earth necessitates a belief in stupid theories like evolution... People have stupid theories all the time but we don't have to subscribe to them.
Notice, Sue, we call Genesis vs 2-Genesis 2:1 the creation but God already created it in vs 1 The word used is "created" Past tense, a complete work completed. Then it became without form and void, then God restored it. Of course, He had to create the animals on it...But thats all He created in these verses.
Look at verse 9 as an example...
9 God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear,” and that is how it was. 10 God called the dry land Earth, the gathering together of the water he called Seas, and God saw that it was good.
Sue...The land was already there under the water..God called for it to come up.

Now as to Enoch and Jasher et al. The book of Enoch was canon until eight hundred years into Christianity when the Romanist Church conspired to have it removed because it negated some of that church's teachings. They could not have canon contradicting their lies. Enoh was there and saw and experienced these things...He is a witness. He is a prophet, a friend of God...That makes him a credible witness don't you think?
If you do a word study you will find...In the beginning God created the heaven/heavens and the Earth.
2 And the Earth became without form and void/shapeless.

You are correct about the Book Of Enoch being Canon. Besides that , it never ceased being study for the Jews even in Jesus time. There are forty or more quotes(they do not say they were from Enoch but are in line with) that the NT echos. This because what Enoch wrote is from the WORD , to begin with. Christ is just reiterating what He already told Enoch. so in essence Enoch is Echoing The Ancient of ancients before He came to earth as the Messiah (Christ) .
And Genesis 2 is a recap or a reiterating with greater detail . Without form means the boundaries of it were not set, void means with out life in it yet.

 

[Hadsa]

That does NOT mean that a very old Earth necessitates a belief in stupid theories like evolution... People have stupid theories all the time but we don't have to subscribe to them.
Notice, Sue, we call Genesis vs 2-Genesis 2:1 the creation but God already created it in vs 1 The word used is "created" Past tense, a complete work completed. Then it became without form and void, then God restored it. Of course, He had to create the animals on it...But thats all He created in these verses.
Look at verse 9 as an example...
9 God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear,” and that is how it was. 10 God called the dry land Earth, the gathering together of the water he called Seas, and God saw that it was good.
Sue...The land was already there under the water..God called for it to come up.

Now as to Enoch and Jasher et al. The book of Enoch was canon until eight hundred years into Christianity when the Romanist Church conspired to have it removed because it negated some of that church's teachings. They could not have canon contradicting their lies. Enoh was there and saw and experienced these things...He is a witness. He is a prophet, a friend of God...That makes him a credible witness don't you think?
If you do a word study you will find...In the beginning God created the heaven/heavens and the Earth.
2 And the Earth became without form and void/shapeless.

You DO realize that there are Many people in acadamia who feel very strongly Against God's Word and very Pro evolution. Evolution provides an ex-God explanation for how everything Did get here. After all -- it's obvious that this world Is Here

Only thing is -- with evolution -- there's no reason for anything To be 'here'. Because everything Does have to have a source For being.

Okay -- how about 'this'? Genesis 1:1 is a summary statement and the rest of the story is expanded upon in the next chapters.

What you're talking about is the Gap Theory.

Will continue shortly -- going to research more on the Gap. I found several artiles -- my printer won't work

ANOTHER THEORY, you do realize a THEORY is just that. It does not mean FACT. The FACT is the fossil record is just not there to support the THEORY. A theory is a contemplative and rational type of abstract or generalizing thinking, or the results of such thinking .Abstract thinking is never based in fact, it is more so conjecture.
ab·stract
adjective
adjective: abstract
abˈstrakt,ˈabˌstrakt/

1. 1.
   existing in thought or as an idea but not having a physical or concrete existence
2. The abstract thinker lives in his OWN thoughts, as to -replacing God with himself. To him it is irrational to submit to God.
3. ra·tion·al
   ˈraSH(ə)n(ə)l/
   adjective
   adjective: rational
   1. 1.
      based on or in accordance with reason or logic.
4. But he is actually the irrational one in his thinking- when he clings to thoughts which can not be substantiated by FACTS and physical concrete proof of his Theories.

further meaning of Theory:
the·o·ry
ˈTHirē/
noun
noun: theory; plural noun: theories

1. a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
   "Darwin's theory of evolution"
   synonyms:hypothesis, thesis, conjecture, supposition, speculation, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, surmise, assumption, presupposition;

Speculation is not proof of. Speculation could never be upheld in a court of Law. Therefore , for sure not in Gods court, and His is Divine -Law and Order.

 

[Sue D.]

@ Hadsa -- #43 -- you're right about evolution. Totally agree with that part of your post.

I don't think that Darwin hated God. What he Did was come to a wrong conclusion about something he came across while he was traveling. He Was an intellect. But some other guys jumped on Darwins' findings and found it to be a good substitute For God. And I'm Also thinking that in his later years, he tried to recant and set things straight, but no one would listen to him.

And, the RCC Bible has a lot of extra books in it. One of the books is where the RCC gets it's belief about purgatory. There are a set of guidelines as to determine if a book was to be in the cannon.

And, 'we' might feel that a concept is stupid , but if you're trying to talk with someone who believes that particular concept -- it's probably better to not think of it as being stupid. Because No one likes being told that what they believe on a given topic is stupid.

And there Is a saying 'call a theory Fact Long enough and people will accept it As fact.

 

[Bendito]

Lie of the Theory of Evolution

Darwinism is the theory of biological evolution developed by the English naturalist Charles Darwin (1809-
1882) and others,



stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations
that increase the



individual's ability to compete, survive, and reproduce.



Evolution is the false teaching which states: All present day creatures evolved from a lesser form- and in time
also, each individual species added to itself DNA which



it did not previously have- such as humans evolved from primates.



LIE! The idea that a lesser form can evolve into a greater form is ridiculous. No creature can add DNA to itself.
It has never happened and certainly no proof of- even the possibility of it happening has ever been presented. That is why it is a THE-
ORY!
Yet in schools they present this as fact and do not allow for creationism to be taught. Creationism destroys the
theory with fact.
My Existence of God does just that which I shared in a post reply "Has Anybody Listen to this Woman", thread. Science is full of contradictions and
half truths. Half a truth is the greatest lie of all.
For it is meant to deceive. A lie is a lie when bold faced. But, the father of lies likes to mix truth in to malign the truth.
Such as the understanding of adaptations.

ADAPTATION: 1. the action or process of adapting or being adapted.
2. Example- a movie, television drama, or stage play that has been adapted from the written work, typically a
novel.
3. Biology- a change or process of change by which a organism or species become better suited for it's environment
Adaptation is not a process of adding new DNA sequences- but, a tapping into preexisting codes which surface
under strain or stress from external changes. All creatures have this. It is an adaptation for survival. People have this too. If
you look at the diversity of cultures each has adapted through time- things like no need for wisdom teeth. Some people do not get them
and they are not even present in the jaw. At one time all people got them, why? Early man was a hunter and gather, tooth lose hap-
pened often and large molars were necessary to replace tooth lose. Yeah, something this simple can give understanding of adaptation. People
today, who are still hunters and gatherers like African people, and aboriginal peoples who still live as the ancient peoples- still get
wisdom teeth. The European man tends to not get them even if they are present in the jaw they never come in, or they are not present at all.
Another example: Salt- having been introduced into mans diet refined mans bones. This is interesting since Christ
calls Christians the salt of the earth. We help refine souls.

Animal adaptation is the same. Like frogs- in a same sex environment will suddenly change sex- for reproduc-
tive purposes. They did not add new DNA codes. This is encoded in their DNA from the time of Creation. Fish, for example have de-
veloped lungs to breath on land.

It is the stress of the environment which causes them to tap into this necessity to survive. They crawl on land,
bury themselves and wait for rain.
Now , the question is, what brought on the necessity for adaptation? For we as Christians no God made every-
thing perfect. What caused the fall of man and creation to be stressed? Lucifer, Satan (Betrayer of God). His presents in this world has
made for the necessity of tapping into the DNA for adaptation.

Adaptation is good especially for animals. However, no DNA IS EVER ADDED. EVOLUTION IS A LIE! It
protects itself under the guise of Theory, conjecture, opinion- which is a lie "Let what you say be simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything more than this
comes from evil"- (Matthew 5:37).
What does adaptation have to do with evolution? Well, by pairing up this truth with evolution, satan tries to le-
gitimize his claims.
Remember a half truth is the greatest lie of all; because it is meant to deceive. No one can argue , adaptation is
not present in all creation, right? However , evolution states lesser creatures evolve into greater ones with no proof to back up
claims- theory-conjecture.
Nothing in God's creation ever changed it species of itself. Yet as I said they have forced this theory down the throats of
people since childhood.
They condition and brainwash the mind for years, you are not allowed , in classrooms to reject this garbage.
You get an F when you do.
Evolution says that because we share 96% of the same DNA as apes we must have evolved from them? NON-
SENSE! What this means is God- in creating man added 4% more DNA which makes us completely different. That 4% plus a soul from
His heart makes us in His like and image. Similarities do not make equal. Each step in the DNA of species is what separates each
species from the other. Add and thus, you have a different creature. The ingredients God puts together- from the basic to the complex. No
matter what science says ......if evolution were true all species would have already evolved to their highest form and the previous one would
no longer exist.
So, satan wants mankind to believe we are apes. Why? He hates man! We created after the angels ,(for they
were created first, ) and last we were made-( after all things in creation)yet are to be first, above angels. The example of our glory is
Christ. " Beloved, we are God's children, it does not yet appear what we shall be, but we know that when He appears we shall be like Him, for we shall
see Him as He is. And everyone who thus hopes in Him purifies himself as He is pure.( 1 John 3:2-3)

Darwin was a false teacher who thought he was of lofty mind- who taught the lie of evolution. His place is in
the lake of fire where all false teachers and false prophets go.

Let us look at this false teacher's thoughts on Christianity: A post from the( Atheist Republic. com)

"I can indeed hardly see how anyone ought to wish Christianity to be true; for if so the plain language

of the text seems to show that the men who do not believe, and this would include my father, brother and
almost all my friends, will be everlastingly punished. And to me this is a damnable doctrine"



ANOTHER QUOTE: " We must , however, acknowledge, as it seems to me, that man with all his noble qualities... still
bears in his bodily frame the indelible stamp of his lowly origin."

"By considering the embryological structure of man- the homologies which he presents with lower animals...
We thus learnt that man is descened from a hairy quadruped... probably arboreal in its habits, and an inhabitant
of the old world."



REALLY!!!



Now for some contradiction: Darwin's theory of Natural Selection-



"More individuals are produced each generation that can survive.Phenotypic variations exists among individuals and the variation is heritable.
Those individuals with heritable traits better suited to the environment will survive."



YET SAYS:



" I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created
parasitic wasp with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars"



Contradiction! Doesn't this make the wasp better suited for survival?



What did he say above that?



Science is full of contradictions and half truths. Darwin hated God and could not possibly teach anything
in wisdom. He was of the knowledge of satan. YESHUA (Jesus) SHALL CRUSH THE HEAD OF THE SER-
PENT!
Science with this “Theory” has thrown so much garbage at the body of Christ. And has produced many Ma-
sonic persons , dangerous people -who have brought great sorrows to man. It is time for pay back!

Science will also , through fallen angel knowledge produce a mark to be placed in the flesh of men . This mark
will render men irredeemable. The fallen angels went into woman and produced Nephilim through mixing their
spirit seed with woman . Supernatural beings can manipulate the natural realm and can become form.
Well, through technology they have found a new way to create their offspring. It will be
of man. They will corrupt men's DNA. This alien garbage is a fallen angel deception, to make those who are
unlearned of man prepared for the accepting of this mark. This is the "RED STEW" spoken of in the story of Jacob.
It will be accepted during a time of hardship, and labor, and strife.It is an non- kosher mark, so to speak.
it will be cooked up by the satanic Masonic rulers in Israel. The Fifth Trumpet Rev.9:5-7

…5The locusts were not given power to kill them, but only to torment them for five months, and their torment was like the stinging of a scorpion. 6In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will long to die, but death will escape them. 7And the locusts looked like horses prepared for battle, with something like crowns of gold on their heads, and faces like the faces of men.…I will reveal this understanding soon. God Bless!

Well written! Thank you.

 

[Bendito]

I'm going to start responding back to # 33. For one thing -- are you Jewish or Gentile? The Jewish or Gentile calendar. 'we' don't have an exact date for the birth of Jesus Christ, The Gospels give us clues as to when it took place,. WHY 'we' celebrate Christmas on December 25 I really don't know. Seems there' a pagan holiday around that time, Does that keep 'me' from celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ. No. Our 'culture' has commercialized it so much, it's pathetic. It's what we choose to do with it ourselves / our families.

And, yes, there Is a difference between the Jewish and Gentile calendar, And that is Also the reason there's been such a 'rucus' about the time and day of the bodily resurrect of Jesus Christ. A part of a day is considered 'a day'.

"We" know that there's no foundation for evolution. But there are plenty of people in higher education who 'swear by it' so to speak.

Then WHY are you an old, old age creation person -- as in millions / billions of years ago. How about the Genesis creation?

Animals of like kind can and do mate in their natural surrounds. For example -a dog and coyote Can mate out in the wild environment but they won't be able to reproduce.
You have heard of a Coydog? Cross between a coyote and a dog....Very common.

Okay -- and what source are You looking at?!

Okay -- it sounds like you don't like the older NIV Study Bible. Actually my husband was discussing that subject a few weeks ago. His Sunday School teacher was discussing it with him. His teacher was a graduate of B.B.C. in some state. He'd simply never been asked that question
Actually I know nothing of the NIV Study bible. I had a NIV bible when I first got saved....I felt and feel that it lacks.

And "How" do you know that the 'men of renown' the giants of the earth were really hybrids. I'd heard that after a few generations that They died off.

As medical science progresses -- 'we' are able to learn more about gentetic disorders.

But WHY the far distant past. Why the Far distant billions of years.

All of that fits in with secular biology.

 

[Bendito]

You DO realize that there are Many people in acadamia who feel very strongly Against God's Word and very Pro evolution. Evolution provides an ex-God explanation for how everything Did get here. After all -- it's obvious that this world Is Here

Only thing is -- with evolution -- there's no reason for anything To be 'here'. Because everything Does have to have a source For being.

Okay -- how about 'this'? Genesis 1:1 is a summary statement and the rest of the story is expanded upon in the next chapters.
So, what you're saying is; God created all the materials to build the world then assembled it?
Verse 1 says He created the heavens and the Earth...He spoke them into existence...as in "World be!!" And it is! The way God wrote His Word, that doesn't work. The word 'created' is in past tense. It means the work was finished...If that's the case, why did He assemble all the materials to build it?

What you're talking about is the Gap Theory.
Yes.

Will continue shortly -- going to research more on the Gap. I found several artiles -- my printer won't work

I'm looking forward to your next....You're keeping me on my toes here. LOL

 

[Hadsa]

@ Hadsa -- #43 -- you're right about evolution. Totally agree with that part of your post.

I don't think that Darwin hated God. What he Did was come to a wrong conclusion about something he came across while he was traveling. He Was an intellect. But some other guys jumped on Darwins' findings and found it to be a good substitute For God. And I'm Also thinking that in his later years, he tried to recant and set things straight, but no one would listen to him.

And, the RCC Bible has a lot of extra books in it. One of the books is where the RCC gets it's belief about purgatory. There are a set of guidelines as to determine if a book was to be in the cannon.

And, 'we' might feel that a concept is stupid , but if you're trying to talk with someone who believes that particular concept -- it's probably better to not think of it as being stupid. Because No one likes being told that what they believe on a given topic is stupid.

And there Is a saying 'call a theory Fact Long enough and people will accept it As fact.

First of all Purgatory means "to purge", It is false to say that the RCC only , is the only one who believes in this. This is and was a Hebrew belief. The ancient Hebrews called it a "passing through the fire" , it is where the Greeks and Orthodox get their belief in it too.The only denomination which does NOT believe in this is obviously the one you ascribe to and this too depends on who you ask within the many sects of Protestantism. Through careful study of the Word, one will find the EXACT meaning of what is meant by to purge or a passing through fire.
This is just an excerpt:

JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA:
PURGATORY:
By: Kaufmann Kohler
Rabbinic Views.

• History of Purgatory.
• An intermediate state through which souls are to pass in order to be purified from sin before they are admitted into the heavenly paradise. The belief in purgatory, fundamental with the Roman Catholic Church, is based by the Church authorities chiefly upon II Macc. xii. 44-45:
• Now I know many Protestant reject these books. That makes no difference to the fact that it is disingenuous to say ONLY RC's believe in this concept. This concept was fostered by the first to know= First to the Jew then the Greek or gentile. As i have stated before in another post, the Maccabees where always books of study for the ancient Hebrews and for Jews of Jesus time as well.
• So now the question is, does the NT support this concept? Well it has to- because the ancients were men who were guided by God to reveal the mysteries of God.

Christ Our Foundation
1Corinthians 3:10-15

10By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as an expert builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one must be careful how he builds. 11For no one can lay a foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

12If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, 13his workmanship will be evident, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will prove the quality of each man’s work. 14If what he has built survives, he will receive a reward. 15If it is burned up, he will suffer loss. He himself will be saved, but only as if through the flames.

Here is where the "Passing through Fire" -Purgatory is supported. Paul is describing for us in elemental terms the process. ALL -that means ALL men and their doctrines are tested by the Holy Spirit. And upon ones departure from this physical life to the spiritual we ALL pass through the fire. Depending on your QUALITY will determine the affect the Holy spirit has on you. Here .......even more tangible terms: We hold a flame in our hands, when you introduce wood, hay or straw= your life's works , what happens? Those practices= Qualities are consumed. They turn black and to ashes, therefore have not stood the test. They are therefore discarded=go to hell. Silver and gold when put through the fire, what happens? The silver melts and the dross is separated leaving only the pure silver,this too with gold, less dross though. Now precious gems, they pass through the fire like passing through warm milk. They do not melt and there is nothing purged out. They are those who have walked perfectly with in the Lord. They have built pure teaching on the foundation and spend no time in a purging state to remove the dross. So what is most correct to say is, not all spend a certain time in purgatory as the Catholic Church teaches or "The passing through fire " as taught to the Hebrews, from the Hebrews. Now, since we know all scripture is God breathed , and is profitable for making doctrine and teaching , we can learn by testing all doctrine according to the foundation what the doctrines quality is. In this, we will also learn who experienced what after their passing.

In conclusion- Enoch is the FIRST to teach about the "Passing Through Fire". It is where the Hebrews get it from, and is supported by the Maccabees and the NT. God's word is not a house divided. that is why it is important for each individual to learn for his or herself what is or is not TRUE. This is the age of knowing, and God is pouring forth His Spirit upon man that He may learn of Him and KNOW He is not a God of confusion. The father-in -laws= those which have preceded this last generation have not built all in the quality of gems. We are the Elect Generation spoken of in Enoch, and Daniel 12 , who will guide all in righteousness.

Bendito is wise to support the writings of Enoch;
(Enoch 1:1-3) THE WORDS OF THE BLESSING OF ENOCH, WHEREWITH HE BLESSED THE ELECT AND RIGHTEOUS, WHO WILL BE LIVING IN THE DAY OF TRIBULATION, WHEN ALL THE WICKED AND THE ONES THAT KNOW NOT YAHWEH AND YEHSHUA ARE TO BE REMOVED. And he took up his parable and said -Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by YAHWEH, saw the vision of the Kodesh One (Ruach ha'Kodesh is the beautiful Hebrew title of the Spirit of Yahweh) in the heavens, which the Malakim (Angels) showed me, and from them I heard everything, and from them I understood as I saw, BUT NOT FOR THIS GENERATION, BUT FOR A REMOTE ONE WHICH IS FOR TO COME.
Daniel 12:3
3Then the wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever.

So , Enoch stands and is NOT Apocrypha as the RCC and some Protestants claim.
A·poc·ry·pha
əˈpäkrəfə/
noun
singular proper noun: Apocrypha

1. biblical or related writings not forming part of the accepted canon of Scripture.
   • writings or reports not considered genuine.

OH! and Darwin hated God for sure!
God Bless!

 

[Sue D.]

Here are some articles I've recently found.

Under w.w.w. gotquestians.org

What is the book of Jasher and should it be in the Bible.

and

What is the book of Enoch and should it be in the Bible.

 

[Bendito]

Here are some articles I've recently found.

Under w.w.w. gotquestians.org

What is the book of Jasher and should it be in the Bible.

and

What is the book of Enoch and should it be in the Bible.

Here are some articles I've recently found.

Under w.w.w. gotquestians.org

What is the book of Jasher and should it be in the Bible.

and

What is the book of Enoch and should it be in the Bible.

Sue Considering how often Gotquestions.com says things that contradict the Word, I put no stock in anything they say....They are like Snopes...Totally biased. They take their answers from more opinion than solid Word.

 

[Hadsa]

First of all Purgatory means "to purge", It is false to say that the RCC only , is the only one who believes in this. This is and was a Hebrew belief. The ancient Hebrews called it a "passing through the fire" , it is where the Greeks and Orthodox get their belief in it too.The only denomination which does NOT believe in this is obviously the one you ascribe to and this too depends on who you ask within the many sects of Protestantism. Through careful study of the Word, one will find the EXACT meaning of what is meant by to purge or a passing through fire.
This is just an excerpt:

JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA:
PURGATORY:
By: Kaufmann Kohler
Rabbinic Views.

• History of Purgatory.
• An intermediate state through which souls are to pass in order to be purified from sin before they are admitted into the heavenly paradise. The belief in purgatory, fundamental with the Roman Catholic Church, is based by the Church authorities chiefly upon II Macc. xii. 44-45:
• Now I know many Protestant reject these books. That makes no difference to the fact that it is disingenuous to say ONLY RC's believe in this concept. This concept was fostered by the first to know= First to the Jew then the Greek or gentile. As i have stated before in another post, the Maccabees where always books of study for the ancient Hebrews and for Jews of Jesus time as well.
• So now the question is, does the NT support this concept? Well it has to- because the ancients were men who were guided by God to reveal the mysteries of God.

Christ Our Foundation
1Corinthians 3:10-15

10By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as an expert builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one must be careful how he builds. 11For no one can lay a foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

12If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, 13his workmanship will be evident, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will prove the quality of each man’s work. 14If what he has built survives, he will receive a reward. 15If it is burned up, he will suffer loss. He himself will be saved, but only as if through the flames.

Here is where the "Passing through Fire" -Purgatory is supported. Paul is describing for us in elemental terms the process. ALL -that means ALL men and their doctrines are tested by the Holy Spirit. And upon ones departure from this physical life to the spiritual we ALL pass through the fire. Depending on your QUALITY will determine the affect the Holy spirit has on you. Here .......even more tangible terms: We hold a flame in our hands, when you introduce wood, hay or straw= your life's works , what happens? Those practices= Qualities are consumed. They turn black and to ashes, therefore have not stood the test. They are therefore discarded=go to hell. Silver and gold when put through the fire, what happens? The silver melts and the dross is separated leaving only the pure silver,this too with gold, less dross though. Now precious gems, they pass through the fire like passing through warm milk. They do not melt and there is nothing purged out. They are those who have walked perfectly with in the Lord. They have built pure teaching on the foundation and spend no time in a purging state to remove the dross. So what is most correct to say is, not all spend a certain time in purgatory as the Catholic Church teaches or "The passing through fire " as taught to the Hebrews, from the Hebrews. Now, since we know all scripture is God breathed , and is profitable for making doctrine and teaching , we can learn by testing all doctrine according to the foundation what the doctrines quality is. In this, we will also learn who experienced what after their passing.

In conclusion- Enoch is the FIRST to teach about the "Passing Through Fire". It is where the Hebrews get it from, and is supported by the Maccabees and the NT. God's word is not a house divided. that is why it is important for each individual to learn for his or herself what is or is not TRUE. This is the age of knowing, and God is pouring forth His Spirit upon man that He may learn of Him and KNOW He is not a God of confusion. The father-in -laws= those which have preceded this last generation have not built all in the quality of gems. We are the Elect Generation spoken of in Enoch, and Daniel 12 , who will guide all in righteousness.

Bendito is wise to support the writings of Enoch;
(Enoch 1:1-3) THE WORDS OF THE BLESSING OF ENOCH, WHEREWITH HE BLESSED THE ELECT AND RIGHTEOUS, WHO WILL BE LIVING IN THE DAY OF TRIBULATION, WHEN ALL THE WICKED AND THE ONES THAT KNOW NOT YAHWEH AND YEHSHUA ARE TO BE REMOVED. And he took up his parable and said -Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by YAHWEH, saw the vision of the Kodesh One (Ruach ha'Kodesh is the beautiful Hebrew title of the Spirit of Yahweh) in the heavens, which the Malakim (Angels) showed me, and from them I heard everything, and from them I understood as I saw, BUT NOT FOR THIS GENERATION, BUT FOR A REMOTE ONE WHICH IS FOR TO COME.
Daniel 12:3
3Then the wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever.

So , Enoch stands and is NOT Apocrypha as the RCC and some Protestants claim.
A·poc·ry·pha
əˈpäkrəfə/
noun
singular proper noun: Apocrypha

1. biblical or related writings not forming part of the accepted canon of Scripture.
   • writings or reports not considered genuine.

OH! and Darwin hated God for sure!
God Bless!

Speaking of the End of the AGE , there is NO purgatory, because all will be off one or the other HOT or COLD, the battle of the Son's of Light and the Son's of darkness. Those who make it through the Tribulation are All of the End Of Time Elect and are PRECIOUS GEMS.Purgatory can not be therefore a time spent for us in the end. We admonish , esteem , edify , teach and most of all , all is done in LOVE! We are the pillars built upon the foundation. We are a trusted strength in which gives support to the Church. These pillars are all gems.
The Beginning of Knowledge Proverbs 1:5-7
…5let the wise listen and gain instruction, and the discerning acquire wise counsel— 6to understand the proverbs and parables, the sayings and riddles of the wise. 7The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline.…
I. It is to His, that the mysteries of the Word in the OC is revealed. it does not matter what we did or did not know at one time. It is that we have sought and have always found God to be our purpose. Now is the Rev12 season, not prior. The Rev.12 sign in the heavens Sept. 23-24 2017 with its conclusion over Israel is for those CHOSEN and REDEEMED from among men REV.14 who are called out from among the gentiles. The eclipse which preceded the sign of Sept,23, in August is the separating of those called out in this country. We are called out to leave the father-in -laws.As Jacob did. This is revealed in the story of Jacob. It is revealed in Jacobs to Brides, Rachel and Leah . Rachel represents those grafted into Israel through the New= younger covenant and Leah= the Old Covenant. They are the sun and moon representation of Rev12. The Fullness of gentile and Jew is happening now. Only God knows for sure who will survive and be of this. But what is for sure the Election is happening now. what we are granted to know will cause the father-in -laws to grow angry as what happened to Jacob. In Jacob's story he flees back to his HOME LAND. we will to be brought back at the appointed time, and it will be by an act of God. as the first church lived PROPHESY in REAL TIME so will the SISTER Church. Amazing times developing!

Meaning of OC roles and names HIDDEN MYSTERIES FOR THE ELECT:
1 Kings 7:21

Verse Concepts


Thus he set up the pillars at the porch of the nave; and he set up the right pillar and named it Jachin, and he set up the left pillar and named it Boaz. Jachin means : "To be Established"- Boaz means: "Strength Within HIM
It is" To Be Established among the Elect , "Strength Within HIm -YESHUA"




Genesis 28:18-22


So Jacob rose early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put under his head and set it up as a pillar and poured oil on its top. He called the name of that place Bethel; however, previously the name of the city had been Luz. Then Jacob made a vow, saying, "If God will be with me and will keep me on this journey that I take, and will give me food to eat and garments to wear,

Bethel means : "HOUSE OF GOD" Luz the former name of Bethel : (luz):The Hebrew word means "almond tree" or "almond wood" (OHL, under the word). It also means "bone," particularly a bone of the spine, and may be applied to a rocky height supposed to resemble a backbone ... THE ELECT HAVE THE BACK BONE TO ENDURE we are grafted into the TREE of Life =Wisdom. We hold the BACK BONE of the faith.
Genesis 31:45-53


Then Jacob took a stone and set it up as a pillar. Jacob said to his kinsmen, "Gather stones." So they took stones and made a heap, and they ate there by the heap. Now Laban called it Jegar-sahadutha, but Jacob called it Galeed. jegar-sahadutha means: 'Heap of Testimony" = we are the heap of wheat. of the End Times. Galeed meanserived from the Hebrew gal, "a heap of stones," and `edh, "witness." The meaning therefore is "cairn" or "heap of witness," corresponding to yeghar-sahddhutha' in Aramaic . This has to with gal= Woman= Bride of the End Times = Who Miriam Hebrew - Mary English: is a the foundational TYPE = Rev.12 and we are will be an Immaculate PERFECT without stain or blemish Church= Bride . We will teach of Christ in this way, hence bring forth the Male Child of Rev.12



Genesis 35:14-15


Jacob set up a pillar in the place where He had spoken with him, a pillar of stone, and he poured out a drink offering on it; he also poured oil on it. So Jacob named the place where God had spoken with him, Bethel.
There is a lot to share, maybe we can all jump in and talk upon these things.
I hope to discus among the wise here.
Spiritual Wisdom 1Corinthians 2:13:15
…13And this is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. 14The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment.…

We are the only ones who can esteem and admonish one another. No one outside of the faith can do this for us.

Accept One Another Romans 15:1-22

1We who are strong ought to bear with the shortcomings of the weak and not to please ourselves. 2Each of us should please his neighbor for his good, to build him up. 3For even Christ did not please Himself, but as it is written: “The insults of those who insult You have fallen on Me.”a 4For everything that was written in the past was written for our instruction, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures, we might have hope.

5Now may the God of endurance and encouragement grant you harmony with one another in Christ Jesus, 6so that with one mind and one voice you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Christ the Servant of Jews and Gentiles

7Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring glory to God. 8For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God’s truth, to confirm the promises made to the patriarchs, 9so that the Gentiles may glorify God for His mercy. As it is written:

“Therefore I will praise You among the Gentiles;

I will sing hymns to Your name.”

10Again, it says:

“Rejoice, O Gentiles, with His people.”

11And again:

“Praise the Lord, all you Gentiles,

and extol Him, all you peoples.”

12And once more, Isaiah says:

“The root of Jesse will appear,

One who will arise to rule over the Gentiles;

in Him the Gentiles will put their hope.”

13Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you believe in Him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Paul the Minister to the Gentiles

14I myself am convinced, my brothers, that you yourselves are full of goodness, brimming with knowledge, and able to instruct one another. 15However, I have written you a bold reminder on some points, because of the grace God gave me 16to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles in the priestly service of the gospel of God, so that the Gentiles might become an acceptable offering to God, sanctified by the Holy Spirit.

17Therefore I exult in Christ Jesus in my service to God. 18I will not presume to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me in leading the Gentiles to obedience by word and deed, 19by the power of signs and wonders, and by the power of the Spirit of God. So from Jerusalem all the way around to Illyricum, I have fully proclaimed the gospel of Christ.

20In this way, I have aspired to preach the gospel where Christ was not known, so that I would not be building on someone else’s foundation. 21Rather, as it is written:

“Those who were not told about Him will see,

and those who have not heard will understand.”

22That is why I have often been hindered from coming to you.

PEACE BROTHERS AND SISTER IN CHRIST AND AGAPE LOVE!!!!!!

 

[Bendito]

Speaking of the End of the AGE , there is NO purgatory, because all will be off one or the other HOT or COLD, the battle of the Son's of Light and the Son's of darkness. Those who make it through the Tribulation are All of the End Of Time Elect and are PRECIOUS GEMS.Purgatory can not be therefore a time spent for us in the end. We admonish , esteem , edify , teach and most of all , all is done in LOVE! We are the pillars built upon the foundation. We are a trusted strength in which gives support to the Church. These pillars are all gems.
The Beginning of Knowledge Proverbs 1:5-7
…5let the wise listen and gain instruction, and the discerning acquire wise counsel— 6to understand the proverbs and parables, the sayings and riddles of the wise. 7The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline.…
I. It is to His, that the mysteries of the Word in the OC is revealed. it does not matter what we did or did not know at one time. It is that we have sought and have always found God to be our purpose. Now is the Rev12 season, not prior. The Rev.12 sign in the heavens Sept. 23-24 2017 with its conclusion over Israel is for those CHOSEN and REDEEMED from among men REV.14 who are called out from among the gentiles. The eclipse which preceded the sign of Sept,23, in August is the separating of those called out in this country. We are called out to leave the father-in -laws.As Jacob did. This is revealed in the story of Jacob. It is revealed in Jacobs to Brides, Rachel and Leah . Rachel represents those grafted into Israel through the New= younger covenant and Leah= the Old Covenant. They are the sun and moon representation of Rev12. The Fullness of gentile and Jew is happening now. Only God knows for sure who will survive and be of this. But what is for sure the Election is happening now. what we are granted to know will cause the father-in -laws to grow angry as what happened to Jacob. In Jacob's story he flees back to his HOME LAND. we will to be brought back at the appointed time, and it will be by an act of God. as the first church lived PROPHESY in REAL TIME so will the SISTER Church. Amazing times developing!

Meaning of OC roles and names HIDDEN MYSTERIES FOR THE ELECT:
1 Kings 7:21

Verse Concepts


Thus he set up the pillars at the porch of the nave; and he set up the right pillar and named it Jachin, and he set up the left pillar and named it Boaz. Jachin means : "To be Established"- Boaz means: "Strength Within HIM
It is" To Be Established among the Elect , "Strength Within HIm -YESHUA"




Genesis 28:18-22


So Jacob rose early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put under his head and set it up as a pillar and poured oil on its top. He called the name of that place Bethel; however, previously the name of the city had been Luz. Then Jacob made a vow, saying, "If God will be with me and will keep me on this journey that I take, and will give me food to eat and garments to wear,

Bethel means : "HOUSE OF GOD" Luz the former name of Bethel : (luz):The Hebrew word means "almond tree" or "almond wood" (OHL, under the word). It also means "bone," particularly a bone of the spine, and may be applied to a rocky height supposed to resemble a backbone ... THE ELECT HAVE THE BACK BONE TO ENDURE we are grafted into the TREE of Life =Wisdom. We hold the BACK BONE of the faith.
Genesis 31:45-53


Then Jacob took a stone and set it up as a pillar. Jacob said to his kinsmen, "Gather stones." So they took stones and made a heap, and they ate there by the heap. Now Laban called it Jegar-sahadutha, but Jacob called it Galeed. jegar-sahadutha means: 'Heap of Testimony" = we are the heap of wheat. of the End Times. Galeed meanserived from the Hebrew gal, "a heap of stones," and `edh, "witness." The meaning therefore is "cairn" or "heap of witness," corresponding to yeghar-sahddhutha' in Aramaic . This has to with gal= Woman= Bride of the End Times = Who Miriam Hebrew - Mary English: is a the foundational TYPE = Rev.12 and we are will be an Immaculate PERFECT without stain or blemish Church= Bride . We will teach of Christ in this way, hence bring forth the Male Child of Rev.12



Genesis 35:14-15


Jacob set up a pillar in the place where He had spoken with him, a pillar of stone, and he poured out a drink offering on it; he also poured oil on it. So Jacob named the place where God had spoken with him, Bethel.
There is a lot to share, maybe we can all jump in and talk upon these things.
I hope to discus among the wise here.
Spiritual Wisdom 1Corinthians 2:13:15
…13And this is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. 14The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment.…

We are the only ones who can esteem and admonish one another. No one outside of the faith can do this for us.

Accept One Another Romans 15:1-22

1We who are strong ought to bear with the shortcomings of the weak and not to please ourselves. 2Each of us should please his neighbor for his good, to build him up. 3For even Christ did not please Himself, but as it is written: “The insults of those who insult You have fallen on Me.”a 4For everything that was written in the past was written for our instruction, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures, we might have hope.

5Now may the God of endurance and encouragement grant you harmony with one another in Christ Jesus, 6so that with one mind and one voice you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Christ the Servant of Jews and Gentiles

7Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring glory to God. 8For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God’s truth, to confirm the promises made to the patriarchs, 9so that the Gentiles may glorify God for His mercy. As it is written:

“Therefore I will praise You among the Gentiles;

I will sing hymns to Your name.”

10Again, it says:

“Rejoice, O Gentiles, with His people.”

11And again:

“Praise the Lord, all you Gentiles,

and extol Him, all you peoples.”

12And once more, Isaiah says:

“The root of Jesse will appear,

One who will arise to rule over the Gentiles;

in Him the Gentiles will put their hope.”

13Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you believe in Him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Paul the Minister to the Gentiles

14I myself am convinced, my brothers, that you yourselves are full of goodness, brimming with knowledge, and able to instruct one another. 15However, I have written you a bold reminder on some points, because of the grace God gave me 16to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles in the priestly service of the gospel of God, so that the Gentiles might become an acceptable offering to God, sanctified by the Holy Spirit.

17Therefore I exult in Christ Jesus in my service to God. 18I will not presume to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me in leading the Gentiles to obedience by word and deed, 19by the power of signs and wonders, and by the power of the Spirit of God. So from Jerusalem all the way around to Illyricum, I have fully proclaimed the gospel of Christ.

20In this way, I have aspired to preach the gospel where Christ was not known, so that I would not be building on someone else’s foundation. 21Rather, as it is written:

“Those who were not told about Him will see,

and those who have not heard will understand.”

22That is why I have often been hindered from coming to you.

PEACE BROTHERS AND SISTER IN CHRIST AND AGAPE LOVE!!!!!!

While this is VERY interesting, dear Lady, I fail to see where it fits in with the subject of the creation of the cosmos?

 

[Curtis]

Because everything Does have to have a source For being.

The word "abba" means Father. The Hebrew word for Father not only means Father, it also means the "source", and or "originator"
It is because of God the Father everything exists because he is the source for all things created through his Son Jesus Christ.

 

[Hadsa]

While this is VERY interesting, dear Lady, I fail to see where it fits in with the subject of the creation of the cosmos?

Sorry. I wanted to continue off where I left off concerning the book of Enoch. I thought I would engage here, then if allowed -speak elsewhere if anyone would like. Again sorry for going off topic God Bless!

 

[Bendito]

Sorry. I wanted to continue off where I left off concerning the book of Enoch. I thought I would engage here, then if allowed -speak elsewhere if anyone would like. Again sorry for going off topic God Bless!

Oh...I see. Thank you for clarifying. You are right.

 

[Sue D.]

Hadsa -- The Church /born-again believers / will be raptured out of this world and won't be going through the 7 yrs. of tribulation. And there Are those who believe 'we' will be taken up half-way into the 7 yrs.

What is the OC?

 

[Sue D.]

Bendito # 52 -- since you don't like 'Got Questions' , there is another article called "The Bible Truth" by thebibletruther. blog-spot.com

I've read through most of it.

One-third of the world destroyed in Genesis? And the information about Noah and his sons and wives. It doesn't agree with God's Word so I don't pay any attention to it.

This is referring to the books of Jasher and Enoch.

 

[Bendito]

Bendito # 52 -- since you don't like 'Got Questions' , there is another article called "The Bible Truth" by thebibletruther. blog-spot.com

I've read through most of it.

One-third of the world destroyed in Genesis? And the information about Noah and his sons and wives. It doesn't agree with God's Word so I don't pay any attention to it.

This is referring to the books of Jasher and Enoch.

Actually its true. Noah, his wife, his three sons and their wives were the only humans left on the planet who's DNA was uncorrupted by the Nephilim DNA....And the same with the animals...That's why God had to bring the animals to Noah, at least in part. It was Satans goal, as it still is, to thwart the messiah. Kill the bloodline of man so no messiah was needed, kill Jesus now?
Stop the church by stealing the Word, killing, and destroying. Its Satan's only goal. The only goal he ever had.

What she said about Noah and his sons was right. Not about Hams wife though....It is in the bible.