Speaking in Tongues: Its Origin [Ancient and Modern] , Purpose, and Power

[Sue D.]

The Holy Spirit is ever present . And the Gifts come from the Spirit.

It is only in man's ignorance that you would hear, do we need the Gifts anymore. I say we need Gods Gifts more than ever .

God's Word says that the spiritual gifts are given as the Holy Spirit chooses to give. No one asks for them. Well -- a person Can ask for 'whatever' but that doesn't mean the person especially Gets 'whatever'. God Does say "yes, no, or wait"

The spiritual gifts are given by the Holy Spirit as He deems necessary -- He's the boss.

Look at Ephesians 4: 10, 11, 12.

Also just came across 1 Corinthians 14: 22-24. Purpose Of tongues -- a sign. take a moment to read the actual passage.

 

[Br. Bear]

actually it's supposed to be "no saba nada" and means 'he knows nothing' -- you typed 'sava' instead of 'saba'

ya know how I know That -- ya simply Google it and ask for the English translation. That gives correct spelling.

No saba nada - I didn't/don't know anything. - Yo no sabía nada.
no sabe nada - he knows nothing
el no sabe nada - He doesn't know anything.

but,
nosotros sí sabemos que Jesucristo es el Señor y Salvador - we do know that Jesus Christ is the Lord and Saviour

Porque no me propuse saber algo entre vosotros, sino á Jesucristo, y á éste crucificado.
1Corintios 2:2

bendiga a todos ustedes ....><>

 

[Br. Bear]

@Sue D.

Greetings,

by the way, how is your ankle?
praying for good and speedy healing


Bless you ....><>

 

[Sue D.]

No saba nada - I didn't/don't know anything. - Yo no sabía nada.
no sabe nada - he knows nothing
el no sabe nada - He doesn't know anything.

but,
nosotros sí sabemos que Jesucristo es el Señor y Salvador - we do know that Jesus Christ is the Lord and Saviour

Porque no me propuse saber algo entre vosotros, sino á Jesucristo, y á éste crucificado.
1Corintios 2:2

bendiga a todos ustedes ....><>

Interesting -- how much Spanish do you know? You're one of the moderators. And you're at least bi-lingual.

It's been several years now, but I'd been in counseling for a while and the guy went on vacation in Costa Rico and ended an email with a Spanish word -- looked it up and thus began some exchanges -- come to find out he'd Taught Spanish in a high school for 4 years.

Okay -- there's three of you who speak Spanish. Two staff people and Curtis.

So -- am I going to be learning Spanish here on-line ? -- actually I still have a thick book across my room called " IDIOTS -- Learning Spanish on your own." This could be interesting.

 

[Sue D.]

@Sue D.

Greetings,

by the way, how is your ankle?
praying for good and speedy healing


Bless you ....><>

My ankle -- well -- it IS healing -- I can take the boot thing off as much as I want to as long as I'm sitting and not moving anywhere. It's gradually getting back to normal coloration. Just tinges of bruising. And pretty much no swelling at all. So it's getting there. Can't see visually without an x-ray and That will happen again August 19th on a Monday. Early afternoon appointment.

Until THEN -- I try to figure out shopping , etc. Granger is a small berg with a small family grocery store. Most everyone goes to either Georgetown or Taylor for real shopping. So need to catch people who are going to do their shopping and reimburse them when they get back here with my groceries. FUN FUN.

 

[amadeus2]

Esa es la esperanza que tenemos en Jesu Cristo mi hermano.

También quería agradecerte por los consejos sobre las marcas españolas mi hermano. ¡Debería ayudar mucho!

Con el amor de Jesu Cristo.
YBIC
Nick
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De nada hermano,
¡Gloria a Dios! De este punto en inglés para dar placer a los que no pueden leer y escribir en español.
You are welcome, brother.
Glory to God! From this point in English in order to please those who cannot read and write in Spanish.

 

[amadeus2]

Okay guys -- even Scripture says that you need an interpreter. Please :smile:

To hear is to obey!

 

[amadeus2]

in other words:

Si hablare alguno en lengua extraña, sea esto por dos, ó á lo más tres, y por turno; mas uno interprete.
1Corintios 14:27


Bless you ....><>

Bastante bien amigo. Very good my friend.

 

[Sue D.]

Thank you for returning to English

 

[Sue D.]

Unless, of course, you want to do an immediate translation to English so I can try to learn some Spanish in the process.

Like amadeos2 has just done.

 

[amadeus2]

Thank you for returning to English :smile:

At your service my lady!

 

[amadeus2]

No saba nada - I didn't/don't know anything. - Yo no sabía nada.
no sabe nada - he knows nothing
el no sabe nada - He doesn't know anything.

but,
nosotros sí sabemos que Jesucristo es el Señor y Salvador - we do know that Jesus Christ is the Lord and Saviour

Porque no me propuse saber algo entre vosotros, sino á Jesucristo, y á éste crucificado.
1Corintios 2:2

bendiga a todos ustedes ....><>

Good, but in proper Spanish either in Spain or Mexico there is no such word as "saba" meaning "know". The correct way to say "I know" is "yo sé". Or to say "I don't know" it would be "Yo no sé".

 

[Br. Bear]

My ankle -- well -- it IS healing -- I can take the boot thing off as much as I want to as long as I'm sitting and not moving anywhere. It's gradually getting back to normal coloration. Just tinges of bruising. And pretty much no swelling at all. So it's getting there. Can't see visually without an x-ray and That will happen again August 19th on a Monday. Early afternoon appointment.

Until THEN -- I try to figure out shopping , etc. Granger is a small berg with a small family grocery store. Most everyone goes to either Georgetown or Taylor for real shopping. So need to catch people who are going to do their shopping and reimburse them when they get back here with my groceries. FUN FUN.

Greetings Sue,

A little more shaping and feeding for you from the Gardener, Who loves you

Godspeed


Bless you ....><>
PS
It is amadeus2 you have to watch when it comes to Spanish! And Nick of course.
I merely, dutifully helped out to save any embarrassment and while at it, provide a little look at the difficult task that translators face -- as we get discussing tongues!

I know next to nothing of the Spanish language... or a bit less! (i don't use google, either!!!) I have enough trouble mastering my own language, English.

One thing i do know, is that before i became a Christian, i knew nothing of the language of praise nor the meaning of the things of God, but thanks be to God in sending His Son that now i am able to not only understand the language but to be able to speak it and share the praises of God in my language. This is something i could never do before He gave His Spirit to me. Before i believed, it was all stupidity and foolishness, and now i see that it is truth and wisdom, and all through His Son, by His Spirit.
The Holy Ghost has been speaking to me every day about the Son and all the Son would have me know, about ourselves, about Him, about God and about our relationship with others both believer and non believers.

Without the Spirit i had no understanding. I knew nothing of God. Now, every day is His faithfulness revealed to me in how He patiently leads me home.

When i talk about the things of God in Christ Jesus, when i write about the same, when i think about such things and when i meditate and pray, all i now can do through His Spirit working and manifesting in and through me . My part is to listen, to hear, to be obedient to what i hear and to give thanks for His mercy and grace, His loving kindness and for His glorious Name's sake, and to strive to not only reciprocate His love but to tell others of His love as we have both tasted and seen and do believe.


Bless you ....><>

 

[Sue D.]

Gracias = thank you

mucho gracias = thank you very much

A lot of Spanish words are a lot like English.

 

[Sue D.]

This last post of mine was really from last evening that I forgot I hadn't posted yet.

Mr. Bear -- I appreciate what you've just shared -- I've just found this morning. I've grown up in church. Had wonderful pastor/ teacher and great Sunday School teachers. Had a lot of head knowledge of Bible - - Christian home -- Christian parents. Nothing to 'complain' about. It was a while before I realized that I Needed to apply salvation on a Personal level. I've always liked to read and probably understood as much Bible as anyone else around me did. And, I guess that when a person is starting out life In a Christian atmosphere, no one questions your salvation or Anything. All I REALLY knew is that there was Finally Peace in my heart that I hadn't had Previously to when I talked to God about being unsure about my Personal salvation. And I got rebaptized -- that another story. God's Word teaches an Order -- salvation 1st and then Believers' baptism by immersion.

And since This is about speaking in tongues -- I grew up with the view that tongues / for the most part has ceased. There Was a time and place and purpose For it, but, Mostly, that isn't especially any more. Now - - there Have been missionaries coming back on furlough from some 'out back ' areas where the Holy Spirit Does work in ways that He doesn't work Here. West Africa -- Togo area is one of those. I get missionary up-dates from a lady who's in medical missions in that area. Amongst the many other things she and some other's do IS to go into the bush and reach groups of Indians who've never yet heart. She said that entire villages have turned to Christ and then in Other areas -- some Do and some Don't. And a village might consist of a Large family group that has stayed isolated from every one else. Modern technowledgy is totally foreign to them. They live off the land as their ancestors have. And then word does get around that there's a bunch of 'white' people a day or two 's walk and some go wondering and others stay in their own private pocket of civilization. And They, as we speak, Are being evangelized for the 1st time.

That which Has surprised me is that on FB -- utube -- there's an older lady who been in Caracus? and been evangelizing Muslims there. Showed a huge area filled with Muslims who have and Are being won to Christ. She dresses in their style of garb but in beautiful colors and faces showing. She's identifying in clothing AND sharing God's Word with them. They Are accepting Christ as personal Savior. She was being interviewed and asked How this was happening. She said that 'it' started out with her being led to pray for various geographical areas with Muslims several years ago. She felt that burden for them not have any clue that she would Ever be able to visit those areas. She's been accepted by them -- they see her inner love and are attracted to That. And she has That opportunity to share Where that inner love Comes from, Jesus Christ in her life. and that they can have That, too. In Those situations are they being baptized or speaking in tongues as a result. Well -- no mention Of that. It's basic salvation.

And the prayer language that Paul mentions. I've heard people mention that they do that in their private prayer life. But it's not a church thing. So -- it Sounds like -- IF a person feels led To do that -- that's between them and God. My personal thought is that That might just be something that more emotional people get to doing. And I'm Not that much of an emotional person. And God created each of us as unique individuals. A separate plan for each of us. We each have an opportunity to reach people in our own way of life.

My late husband was Not good with English , either. He got an M.A. in theology though.

In This geographical area, there's Lots of Spanish and I'd like to learn some More in some way or another.

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings,

thank you for sharing that Sue.

I used to know a little Greek but i haven't seen him for about 40 years now.

Good to know that people are hearing about Jesus Christ! Really good!
That is encouraging, so again, thank you


Bless you ....><>

 

[Christ4Ever]

So -- am I going to be learning Spanish here on-line ? -- actually I still have a thick book across my room called " IDIOTS -- Learning Spanish on your own." :smile: This could be interesting.

Actually I believe that book was written for me
I had Spanish in school for 4 years and failed it 3 out of the 4!!! Long story short on that is. I upset the teacher so bad, that she graded me out at 20%, whether I took the test or did the assignments or not! Sadly, I had her for 3 years running!!! LOL

De nada hermano,
¡Gloria a Dios! De este punto en inglés para dar placer a los que no pueden leer y escribir en español.
You are welcome, brother.
Glory to God! From this point in English in order to please those who cannot read and write in Spanish.

Of course my Brother on both levels. One that we give Glory to God always, in all things! And two, English for those who are more comfortable in it and or visitors interested in what we may talking about! Which of course includes me as well. Not so proficient in the writing, as in the speaking, which has major room for improvement! :smile:

With the Love of Christ Jesus Dear Brother.
Nick
<><

 

[amadeus2]

Of course my Brother on both levels. One that we give Glory to God always, in all things! And two, English for those who are more comfortable in it and or visitors interested in what we may talking about! Which of course includes me as well. Not so proficient in the writing, as in the speaking, which has major room for improvement! :smile:

With the Love of Christ Jesus Dear Brother.
Nick
<><

Give God the glory!

 

[amadeus2]

…………….
And the prayer language that Paul mentions. I've heard people mention that they do that in their private prayer life. But it's not a church thing. So -- it Sounds like -- IF a person feels led To do that -- that's between them and God. My personal thought is that That might just be something that more emotional people get to doing.though………………...

This is how I have been praying daily for a great many years. I simply meditate on God and then I talk to Him in English, but always as I really make the connection with Him it goes into that "prayer language" you mention...

 

[Sue D.]

@amadeus2 -- and Scripture also says that at times when we don't know How to pray that one of the things the Holy Spirit does is 'interpret' our inner groanings to God -- hopefully that doesn't sound like I'm discrediting Your experience. Because that is between you and God.

hmm -- Maybe that's what the one older genteman in that church Was doing -- maybe I was hearing his 'prayer language'?!

@Christ4Ever -- I had to lol at your comments about your Spanish. Sounds like she Couldn't fail you. But you Had to take it for all 4 years -- that was a requirement? Surely you didn't upset her on Purpose.

When I was in high school a person had to take Latin in order to try to get into nursing. And, of course, Latin was Greek mythology. And we were supposed to try to learn Latin and the Greek mythology I never Could get into. I was horrible and was able to drop it after 6 weeks. My Mom and sister were both nurses and I wanted to Try to do the same, I really liked hospitals at the time. Well -- decided that a course in Medical terminology was be helpful. That's where a person Really gets in to Latin. But in the medical context, it was interesting. And I finally Did understand the 'root' part of those big medical words. Enjoyed it but never did anything more with it. that was usually tied in to transcription, and That is 'another story'.

My husband had to take Greek in Bible college -- the 1st try he flunked really bad. He handed in the one of the exams and said "it's Greek to me". The second try went much better.