Seriously ill

[Lucky Lady]

Hi Apple,

Am sorry to hear that you have renewed pain,but we shall not give up in praying for you.

Do not give up on yourself,the renewed pain might be because the devil has seen that you have taken up your weapons,do not put them down because of this.The weapon that God gives us is the sword, which is his word.

Please do not commit suicide,fight up to the end.Killing yourself is sacrificing yourself to the devil,you become his automatically,it is surrendering to the devil.Always keep in mind that you are at war,if the devil attacks you with pain ,attack him with the word.It is the devil who is supposed to flee from us not the other way round.James 4:7

Be honest with God too,tell him you have even contemplated suicide,if you have to complain,complain to him(David did that),if you feel like crying, cry to him and your cry will not be in vain.You can never go wrong with God.Ask him questions even.

Yes, renewing your mind,is kind of like positive thinking but basing it on the word of God.Talk life to yourself,not death,make it your song.Always rebuke the devil when he brings negative thoughts to you and you will find that this thoughts will flee away from you.For example when you start feeling like suicide say this;"You thoughts of suicide, i command you to leave me immediately in the name of Jesus! and i cover myself with the blood of Jesus".Even if you say it quietly ,the word of God is strong,it must accomplish.The devil will resist at first,but not for long, so do not get tired.

We are together in the battlefield,and we must win.

 

[Apple]

but we shall not give up in praying for you.

THANK YOU!

Thank you LLJ and Lucky Lady for praying for me. The good news is that the pain is less than it was yesterday and the suicidal thoughts have gone - Thank you Jesus!



Please don't get me wrong. I was not suicidal last night, I only had some suicidal thoughts. There is a difference. However, I accept totally that it is not a good idea to even have suicidal thoughts, which is why I asked for prayer.

"You thoughts of suicide, I command you to leave me immediately in the name of Jesus! and I cover myself with the blood of Jesus" - Thank you for this. It is really good, practical advice.

Why, though, do I need to say that I cover myself with the blood of Jesus? What is that all about?

 

[calluna]

Hi Apple, I praise the Lord that you are feeling a little better. I have had a painful disease for many years. There are days that I feel more pain than others. On those days I remind myself of the better days, knowing that this day will pass, that it will get better again. And it has and I believe I have been healed by the Lord.

I found this leaflet amongst my papers, and I liked this passage that I will quote.

Praying for your own healing. We are imperfect vessels; yet the One who is perfect dwells within and longs to heal and bring us perfection.
Pray for healing and look for it. And don't be surprised if it is your outlook which first needs healing. You must look into your heart and find a reason - however small - for living and then realize God created that reason, and longs to help you in wholeness and happiness."

The thoughts of suicide need to be cast down immediately as soon as it crosses your mind. I too some times have had these thoughts. I know you wouldn't carry it through, just as I wouldn't, but it isn't good to even entertain the idea. Suicide is not an option. Period. So don't give the devil a foothold to build on, when it comes to these type of thoughts.
Immediately say a prayer just as you did, and think on things that are lovely, praiseworthy etc....as it says in Phillipians 4:8.

I keep you in my prayers.

Calluna

 

[Apple]

Thank you Calluna for your post.

Yesterday was just a bad pain day. That is when I am likely to feel suicidal or at least have suicidal thoughts - when the pain is too great to bear.

I had a bad night as well, so I can not explain why the pain is far less today - but it is, so thank you God.

I obviously would love God to heal me like he has healed you, but until that happens, when the pain is low, I am not at all suicidal. My problem is when the pain is intense and I don't know what to do to stop the pain or at least control it. That is when the suicidal thoughts begin, but I am glad that I have now been advised as to what I should do if it happens again.

My reason for living now is God, so you are right, I doubt that I would ever commit suicide. However, I don't even want to have the suicidal thoughts at all.

Thank you so much for your prayers.

:girl_hug:

 

[Lucky Lady]

Am so glad to hear that the pain is less now,may this trend continue in Jesus Name.

Now there are two things that overcome the devil,the name of Jesus and the blood,the devil cannot stand the blood the blood of Jesus,he flees! make it a point to be covering your self with the blood,it is like a fence around you.Thats why Jesus came to die on the cross.

If you can ,read the thread byhttp://www.talkjesus.com/counseling/11614-breaking-family-strongholds.htmlIt is very helpful.

I know that God will do wonderful things in your life,soon,in in fact he is already at work.

 

[calluna]

Hello again I just want to explain something. I know I was touched by God physically two days ago, and I have His promise that I am healed. Today my pain is less, it is better than yesterday, and I believe tomorrow will be better, and the next, and the next and so on... and I am going to actually feel physically that I am healed as in I can walk straight, my bones will straighten, I can move quickly, I will have no pain, my joints will be rejuvinated, aswell as knowing I am healed, the knowing will manifest itself into the reality of my life. Does this make sense to anyone?

I continue to pray for you Apple. You are a wonderful sister in the Lord. Yes I have known pain so intense that nothing would quelch it, that I just had to ride it through, I remember rocking backwards and forward just begging God to take my life there and then. Of course that hasn't happened because I am writing this.

I have a suggestion that maybe helpful, if you can obtain the bible on cd, listening to the Word is different that just reading it. While you are unable to read it or even think it during the really bad periods. You don't have to think or do anything, just press a button and play and listen.

Calluna

 

[Apple]

Lucky Lady - I seem to get so muddled up with what advice I should take literally and what advice I should take figuratively!

:embarasse

When people advise me to say something or to pray something, that for me is straight forward, but ...

"make it a point to be covering yourself with the blood".

What precisely do you mean?
How do I do this?

I have read the thread, as you suggested. I have questions, but I'll leave those for another time!!!!!!!!!! - LoL!!



Calluna, thank you for understanding what it is like to have such intense pain that all you want to do is to die.

I am not proud of that fact - but that is just the way it is for me sometimes.



Thank you also for the brilliant suggestion of getting the Bible on CD. I didn't know that such a thing existed!!!!!!

:embarasse

I think that it could help to listen to the Bible when I am in too much pain to read it myself.

Thank you both for your posts and prayers.

 

[ladylovesJesus]

I may have mentioned this before some time back. You can listen to the Bible online too. BibleGateway.com: A searchable online Bible in over 50 versions and 35 languages. and you can choose which version you want to hear I think too.

We need to hear the Word either by reading out loud or by listening to it.

In regards to the blood praying. You just say I plead the blood of Jesus over my life. Nothing can separate us from the love of God. He shed His blood for us.

God bless

Love in Christ :rainbow: :rose:

 

[Apple]

Thank you LLJ for your kind post.

You had already told me about the on-line Bible, but I haven't been able to download it!!!!!! Same problem as with the other links that I have tried to download!!!!!!!!!!!

:embarasse

Whoops! - I had no idea that you were suppose to read the Bible out aloud. When I read the Bible, I read it silently, but I'll try reading it aloud in future.

" In regards to the blood praying. You just say I plead the blood of Jesus over my life."

- I am not trying to be legalistic, but once again, I need to ask how often I should say this.

Is it:
once and then that is that sorted?
or, every day?
or, when I have suicidal thoughts?
or, other?

 

[ladylovesJesus]

Faith comes by hearing and hearing comes from the Word of God so yes you need to hear the Bible scriptures either by reading out loud or by hearing them on your pc. Now I do not download anything to hear the Bible online. I guess it depends on what you have installed on your pc. Have you tried to use the radio in main page on TJ? There is a Bible answers in there. I listen to premier radio from there.

It is good to pray the prayer for your protection daily putting on the armour of God and pleading the blood of Jesus over yourself. Whenever you have wrong thoughts go to Philippians 4.8 and speak those words out.

I hope this helps you sister

God bless

Love in Christ :rainbow: :rose:

 

[Apple]

Yes thank you. I'm understanding that a little better now!



I'm still quite surprised that I need to read the Bible out aloud. That had never occurred to me!!!

 

[Apple]

Today has been a bad pain day.

Could barely get out of bed and this afternoon had to decide whether to go to hospital or not.

Still fighting the idea of hospitalisation!

Am totally exhausted from the pain, but can not sleep - it is gone midnight.

Just feel so ill and am in so much pain.

Please will you pray for me?

 

[Tonyb]

Today has been a bad pain day.

Could barely get out of bed and this afternoon had to decide whether to go to hospital or not.

Still fighting the idea of hospitalisation!

Am totally exhausted from the pain, but can not sleep - it is gone midnight.

Just feel so ill and am in so much pain.

Please will you pray for me?

I'm Praying for you.

God bless you greatly and cause the light of his presence to shine on you.

Tony

 

[ladylovesJesus]

Father I lift up this dear sister to you and ask that You will release her from the pain and restore her body to full health and strength so she can enjoy the abundant life You came to give her in Jesus' name amen.

 

[Apple]

Thank you both of you for your prayers.

I don´t know what else to say because I feel so ill. I am still in a lot of pain.

 

[SpiritLedEd]

I,too,am praying for you, Apple. God has not taken his love away from you.

SLE

 

[Apple]

I just came to post an update and found your post SLE.



Thank you for your prayers and everybody else's. I am feeling stronger than I have for the past 48 hours - Thank you Jesus!

 

[QuietProtest4t]

Strength and Healing

Bless you Apple I have prayed and will contiune to pray for your healing. Your strength and endurance encourages me to be strong in my everyday struggles. And you make my troubles seem small . Compared to the pain you must be feeling. God Bless and remember God's right there by your side!
"Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest."Matthew 11:28

 

[Apple]

Thank you Quietprotest4t for your prayers. I really appreciate them. I like the Bible verse. Sometimes I am just so desperate to have rest from the pain!

This morning, the pain is at a low level in comparison to how it has been. Thank you Jesus!

 

[calluna]

Hello dear sister, I was thinking about you and came on-line to say so. I just heard a Christian programme about suffering and pain. Part of what I heard was God can use our painful experiences so we can comfort or minister to someone else. I think through my debilitating disease, I have developed a huge understanding and compassion for others who are suffering, who have physical pain, which I probably wouldn't have had before. Also in the programme I heard about there is a gain to be taken out of pain, we may have to look for it, but it is there.

Somehow through your pain Apple, there is a gain. As an outsider looking in to some of your world that you are living in, I see God is being glorified. Yes He is. Praise God. You could have been bitter and hated God for your condition, but you didn't, you surrendered to the call of God and turned to Him and put your trust in His son Jesus Christ. Through your suffering you came to Know the love of God, you accepted the gift of eternal life, what greater gain is there than that?.

I see you praising our King, even when in pain, how that ministers to my heart. How that encourages me sister. It brings tears to my eyes. How I know about pain, but you know it moreso. Yes through your suffering there is a gain for you, for anyone who knows you personally, for all the visitors of TJ, for all the Kingdom of Heaven, for anyone reading your story. And it is a slap in satan's face!!!.

One phrase that sticks out in my mind is

"The longer the suffering, the bigger the victory"

And the victory is ours, given to us by God through our Lord Jesus Christ. 1Cor 15:57

Apple I continue to pray for you. I encourage you to read God's Word everyday or listen to it. Get fed daily! Continue to claim the victory through Jesus Christ. I pray for you to be completely healed in Jesus name, I believe in this for you. As I continue to believe it for myself.

Calluna