Quran A false Writing

[Rhema]

It seems however; that Many do not obey The Instruction give. "Study to show Yourself approved of God, A WORKMAN, who need not be ashamed. "RIGHTY DIVIDING" the word of Truth.

That's because the Greek text doesn't say RIGHTLY DIVIDING.

I've mentioned before, and I shall repeat myself again, that a BAD translation cannot help but yield BAD doctrine. If I recall, I even gave you a link to a Greek Lexicon online that proved the word ὀρθοτομέω ought to be translated as "Teach Aright" or Rightly Teaching.

Give diligence to present thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, handling aright the word of truth.​

- 2 Timothy 2:15 RV

Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved by him, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly explaining the word of truth.​

- 2 Timothy 2:15 NRSV

This KJV four hundred year old mutation has turned into a cult.

Which I think @The Gospel of Christ correctly attributes to Scofield.

God bless, (incoming PM)
Rhema

PS: And I am not ashamed to be called a Red Letter Christian.

 

[Rhema]

And if you don’t trust Jesus’ word to Ananias, then what exactly are you doing pretending to believe the Bible?

Never pretended that at all.

Are you one to believe that the Bible is inerrant?

(Knowing this would help a lot.)

Thanks,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Because Jesus Himself said:
"It was necessary that the word of God should first be spoken to you [Jews]" — Acts 13:46

I think you have confused Paul with Jesus here.

And the text says "we" not "the Lord."

Why are you pretending that you actually read the words as written?

Jesus Himself did NOT say, ... so that's a lie. (How many more don't you recognize when you say them?)

God bless,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

You are Scofield-confused,

Wow, you really do have a reading comprehension problem.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Never had a Scofield Bible, never studied ANY Scofield notes, and never attended a Scofield church.

So, I guess you Really Don't have a problem lying.

Thanks, (I guess)
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Jesus didn’t say Paul “claimed” to be an apostle.
Jesus declared it.

No, he did not you just want
to believe that nonsense and read it into what's written.

As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.​

- Acts 13:2 KJV

@Leumas, it's becoming more and more obvious that @The Gospel of Christ has a reading disability of some sort.

Then again, maybe he's Pentecostal Oneness, and thinks the Holy Ghost is Jesus.

But I doubt it,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

You both need to wake up.

Rhema — you're playing with blasphemy by suggesting Paul saw a “false Jesus.” You're one inch from calling the Holy Spirit a liar.

Well, Paul certainly wasn't a real Jesus.

But Paul sometime during his later ministry DID change the Gospel that Jesus taught.

It's evident to anyone who knows that one cannot forgive a debt that's been paid.

Whom did Jesus preach forgives sin?

Kindly,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Jesus spoke from heaven, blinded Paul,

I thought Jesus went around healing the blind, not blinding people.

I thought Jesus commanded his disciples to bless them that curse you, not to curse people.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.​

- Galatians 1:8 KJV

I truly don't think you think through things. (You're too busy condemning people.)

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

You don’t know the Word of God,

Which Word of God?

Because I know you don't what that means.

And you're screaming so loudly up inside your brain that you can't be silent even for a moment to learn anything.

That's sad,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

It was Jesus Christ — the resurrected, glorified King of the universe —
who blasted Paul off his horse, blinded him, and called him by name.

Paul was on a horse?



Wow. Dude, you have got to take some reading comprehension lessons. PLEASE.

And you accuse others of making stuff up?

This just keeps getting better and better.

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

RHEMA
It would be very interesting to Me if You could tell Me what You understand! Do You understand more than Bullinger or other early Writers?
If so, I will listen to what You have to say.
DeepSeeker

DS, Please accept my apology for (in essence) inviting @The Gospel of Christ into your thread to discuss the topic of this Two Gospel heresy.

I hadn't known the guy was quite so... technically, illiterate (not to mention pretty belligerent).

Again apologies, (PM maybe by Monday.)
Rhema

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.​

- Acts 13:2 KJV

@Leumas, it's becoming more and more obvious that @The Gospel of Christ has a reading disability of some sort.

Then again, maybe he's Pentecostal Oneness, and thinks the Holy Ghost is Jesus.

But I doubt it,
Rhema

Acts 13:2 is not when Paul was called as an apostle — that’s when he was commissioned for missionary work, afteralready being chosen by Jesus Himself.

Let’s rewind to the actual moment of calling:
“He is a chosen vessel unto Me, to bear My name before the Gentiles…”
— Acts 9:15 (Jesus speaking)

Jesus didn’t suggest it.
He didn’t leave it to committee.
He flat-out declared it — before Paul even reached Damascus.

Galatians 1 destroys your argument completely:
“Paul, an apostle—not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ, and God the Father…”
— Galatians 1:1

You can mock, twist, or quote around it all you like —
but you’re not debating Paul anymore.
You’re arguing with Christ’s own words.

And for the record:
No, I’m not Oneness Pentecostal.
I’m just someone who takes the text seriously —
and doesn’t need sarcasm and strawmen to prop up bad theology.

Rhema’s so deep in the Scofield-blasphemy Kool-Aid, he couldn’t find the Gospel with both hands and a map. He mocks the words of Jesus while blindly clinging to a man-made theology invented in the 1800s, funded by Oxford Press, and propped up by Zionist politics — and he calls that Christianity?

Please.

At this point, what he follows isn't biblical faith — it’s a religious hallucination built on footnotes, not Scripture.
He doesn’t need another clever comeback.
He needs a Bible without Scofield’s lies scribbled all over it.

 

[Deep Seeker]

RHEMA
i would like to hear Your belief.
What other Writers have You read. There are indeed many. Have You read The Quran, The Book Of Enoch, or other such writings? Those indeed would be a good Start!
Then too, Bonnie Gaunts writings are very good.

Deepseeker

RHEMA --
My believe is that in the Begining --- .

What beginning ? Is the Bible the correct text for what took place in The Begging? Many say It is. However, how can One really know if it is true? ?
What about the Book Of Enoch? OR the Quran ? Or others?

One of the Big Problems with Christianity Of Today is, religion got in the way! How many renderings is there of what is called The Bible? Which One is correct ?

What Writing should be used Today ?

You seem to reason well. So, what is Your opinion?

DeepSeeker

 

[Leumas]

What beginning ?

Time.

In the beginning of time .

 

[Christ4Ever]

As you well know when text, context, and greater context is not considered, it can easily distort what is happening, which is what you have done with my words, and with Scripture.

I disagree.

Of course you do! lol
That is why you won't change your ways, and I will continue to have to remind you of its importance in quoting...just about anything of mine or Scripture when your quoting distorts or mischaracterizes what is being said!

I know you like that excuse,

Just like the excuse that follows for you not doing so....zzzzz

that I'm cutting your posts to shreds

It's what the cutting does to your understanding, or lack thereof to further your point of view of what is meant to be communicated and understood in total and not just in parts.

I'll gladly submit my post to any qualified 10th grade English teacher

Go for it. Since you'd only submit it in part, you'd sure to get the results that would agree with your position.

So Paul was just being a drama queen

Like someone else I know........zzzzzzzz

he flat out rejected the Synagogues and went to the Gentiles instead

Clearly you ignored the scripture verses I shared with you to show you this was not the case. If you won't believe the scripture shown to you, which you have a tendency to do when it doesn't agree with you, I can do no more for you, and leave it in the Holy Spirit to so do what I could not. Which is much better if you ask me, anyway.

This was an adamant shaking the dust off of one's feet. How do I know? It LITERALLY says so - "they shook off the dust of their feet." And just LOOK at the reaction of the Gentiles.

So, when you say you're never going to eat in a restaurant again, because of the bad service. Does this mean you'll never eat in any and every restaurant in existence? Would you be insulted if I added here "foolishness" to that question's answer? Especially when I can show you've gone to other restaurants afterwards.

Scripture clearly shows it was not an all-encompassing blanket statement by Paul as the following verses show.

But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day and sat down. Acts 13:14 NKJV

Uh... verse 14 comes BEFORE verse 46. C'mon Nick, settle down and think this through.

The breadcrumbs have start somewhere................

I can see where Barnabas calmed Paul the hothead down by the time they reached Iconium, but ... the same thing happened.

Yes, so that he could continue spreading the Gospel to the Gentiles as well! The Lord well knew the man whom He had chosen and taught for the task needing to be done!

The rest is just regurgitating your position and ignoring mine that each time he starts at the synagogues/Jews, then continues on towards the Gentiles & Jews that followed, which he was meant to do. Always keep in mind that Paul had a great love for his people. He was moved that they too would be saved through Jesus and so went to the synagogues first then the gentiles. Oh, that we should have such love for the lost!

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Romans 1:16 KJV

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><
P.S.

Then quite a journey is recorded with no mention of Synagogues at all, but with the surprising account that Paul had Timothy circumcised !!!

No mention of taking potty breaks either!!!

 

[Seethat]

As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.​

- Acts 13:2 KJV

@Leumas, it's becoming more and more obvious that @The Gospel of Christ has a reading disability of some sort.

Then again, maybe he's Pentecostal Oneness, and thinks the Holy Ghost is Jesus.

But I doubt it,
Rhema

That is interesting.... you separate Jesus from the God.... this should be good for the mod

Jesus is Lord, all Christians agree on that

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

There is one Spirit.

Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

The Lord is that Spirit.

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

So one Lord, One Spirit and the Lord is that Spirit that's why Jesus said I and the Father are one

So what does it mean when you deny this fundamental concept

3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

@Christ4Ever

 

[Leumas]

Acts 13:2 is not when Paul was called as an apostle — that’s when he was commissioned for missionary work, afteralready being chosen by Jesus Himself.

Let’s rewind to the actual moment of calling:
“He is a chosen vessel unto Me, to bear My name before the Gentiles…”
— Acts 9:15 (Jesus speaking)

Jesus didn’t suggest it.
He didn’t leave it to committee.
He flat-out declared it — before Paul even reached Damascus.

Galatians 1 destroys your argument completely:
“Paul, an apostle—not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ, and God the Father…”
— Galatians 1:1

You can mock, twist, or quote around it all you like —
but you’re not debating Paul anymore.
You’re arguing with Christ’s own words.

And for the record:
No, I’m not Oneness Pentecostal.
I’m just someone who takes the text seriously —
and doesn’t need sarcasm and strawmen to prop up bad theology.

Rhema’s so deep in the Scofield-blasphemy Kool-Aid, he couldn’t find the Gospel with both hands and a map. He mocks the words of Jesus while blindly clinging to a man-made theology invented in the 1800s, funded by Oxford Press, and propped up by Zionist politics — and he calls that Christianity?

Please.

At this point, what he follows isn't biblical faith — it’s a religious hallucination built on footnotes, not Scripture.
He doesn’t need another clever comeback.
He needs a Bible without Scofield’s lies scribbled all over it.

Paul the murderer calls
himself an apostle and then
convinces Peter who denied
Christ three times and who
Jesus referred to as Satan,
to agree with him.

And even them too got
into a argument
And went separate ways

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Paul the murderer calls
himself an apostle and then
convinces Peter who denied
Christ three times and who
Jesus referred to as Satan,
to agree with him.

And even them too got
into a argument
And went separate ways

Ah, the tired trope:
“Paul was a self-appointed apostle! Peter denied Jesus! They argued once, so toss out half the New Testament!”
You’re not doing exegesis — you’re just flailing in theological quicksand.

Let’s be clear.

Paul didn’t “call himself” an apostle.
Jesus did.
Before Paul could even see again.

“He is a chosen vessel unto Me, to bear My name before the Gentiles…”
— Acts 9:15, Jesus speaking

He wasn’t voted in. He wasn’t self-ordained.
He was called by Christ Himself, before Peter ever even heard about it.

And Paul didn’t need Peter’s approval —
he needed time with the Holy Ghost, not a Scofield study group:
“I did not receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.”
— Galatians 1:12

As for your jab about Peter denying Christ — yes, he did.
And Jesus restored him. Publicly. (John 21:15–17)

Meanwhile, you mock both men — the very two pillars of the New Testament Church —
and pretend you’re on the side of God?

You quote their failures like Satan did in the wilderness —
but you ignore the part where Christ redeemed them.

 

[Leumas]

Ah, the tired trope:
“Paul was a self-appointed apostle! Peter denied Jesus! They argued once, so toss out half the New Testament!”
You’re not doing exegesis — you’re just flailing in theological quicksand.

Let’s be clear.

Paul didn’t “call himself” an apostle.
Jesus did.
Before Paul could even see again.

“He is a chosen vessel unto Me, to bear My name before the Gentiles…”
— Acts 9:15, Jesus speaking

He wasn’t voted in. He wasn’t self-ordained.
He was called by Christ Himself, before Peter ever even heard about it.

And Paul didn’t need Peter’s approval —
he needed time with the Holy Ghost, not a Scofield study group:
“I did not receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.”
— Galatians 1:12

As for your jab about Peter denying Christ — yes, he did.
And Jesus restored him. Publicly. (John 21:15–17)

Meanwhile, you mock both men — the very two pillars of the New Testament Church —
and pretend you’re on the side of God?

You quote their failures like Satan did in the wilderness —
but you ignore the part where Christ redeemed them.

Some more of your false doctrine.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Some more of your false doctrine.

Refute it with Scripture. .

 

[Leumas]

Refute it.

You not being able to prove
any of it is my proof that
it's all nonsense.