Is Harry Potter Evil?

[A. Christian]

You tell Me -- re-read what Christ4Ever said in #10.

time to close for today.

I have read the post and I still cannot see any evidence linking these things with the occult. Most of what has been said about these topics from others have been nothing more than rumors pasted by people who had likewise received the same rumors from yet other people.

How about I ask a few questions.
1. Has any of you actually read Harry Potter?
2. Anyone actually play a game of D&D or seen one played?
3. Any one actually met someone who practiced the occult and got to know what they were about?
4. If the answers to the first 3 questions were no, then how could any satisfying conclusion be drawn about the topics being tied to the occult when the only information that you have is vague and potentially skewed by some unknown bias? It's just hear say and rumors and judgments should not be made based off rumors.

I'm not saying to believe me about the topics. I'm just saying hold off on any judgement until you have real evidence. My fear is if a person will so quickly pass judgement on a book with no real evidence, than what's to stop them from doing that with people.

 

[Hekuran]

First off Narnia is basically straight up bible truths told in symbolism that children can understand. Its like pilgrim's progress for children. Like I said no one can say narnia is evil.

As for harry potter, obviously jk rowling isn't christian but I have learned from book two that not everything that appears good is good. And that it is the choices we make that determine who we are. Book 1 says it takes courage to stand up to your enemies but greater courage to stand up to your friends. Loyalty, courage, friendship, and teamwork are often repeated themes. Cooperation was very big too. There are lessons on forgiveness. And above all those, the way love is portrayed is amazing. Towards the end of the series death is encountered more and though I never needed it I can see how it might help some who have suffered loss like that.

JK Rowling is a Christian. She's a member of the Church of Scotland. She didn't talk about the Christian inspiration for Harry Potter as she didn't want to give away the ending of the books.

 

[A. Christian]

JK Rowling is a Christian. She's a member of the Church of Scotland. She didn't talk about the Christian inspiration for Harry Potter as she didn't want to give away the ending of the books.

Ok I guess it is wrong for me to say that she isn't a christian. I have noticed a few strong parallels in the last book. Specifically about death and love. I love how she took a character that I hated the entire series made me dislike him even more then turned him into my favorite character. Snape is awesome. That all said I'm not particularly fond of some of Rowling's ideas outside of the books.
Butb

 

[Christ4Ever]

Now onto d&d. I have no idea what the game was actually like back when it first came out. So my experience of that is not first hand. But I can talk about 3.5 edition and 5th edition. 3.5 had way to much math.

True you create your own character and role play in a world most likely created by another player. What I like about it is that you decide what to do. You could choose to play an evil character or a good character. So whether or not it is a good thing depends entirely on how you play. When my daughter gets older I plan to use it as a way to teach her about consequences for our actions and other lessons about life while being in a safe place. Much better to role play what could happen when you flash your money around strangers.

I'll also use it to teach her about math. That is all the magic in there is. As with a lot of other things in the game, it is all about math. Distance, radius, probability, addition and multiplication. Also, in the world that you create you could add all of the real world stuff that you want. What to teach about Japan have their character go to Japan. Want to learn about the revolutionary war it becomes fun when you can imagine yourself as part of it.

As for whether or not Jesus would play, I think he would. Remember he was famous for not doing what was expected of him by the religious and hanging with sinners. I can totally see Jesus using the game to convey the same lessons that he taught in his parables.

Now as for any addiction. D&D is in my experience no more addicting than any other hobby like say bicycling.

Dear Brother,
Just the listing of character sheets tells me that you are down playing the contents, and the "usual" game play. We used to have a couple of Members here at Talk Jesus who were former practicing witches which would let you know the gate way effect is very real in what many consider fantasy/games. Think of it as how marijuana can lead one to experimentation with other drugs. True not everyone will fall, but if one falls it's one too many.

The mentioning of C.S. Lewis has me of the mind that if he knew what it was going to be turned into, he'd probably have second thoughts. Meaning, the focus has become less the Christ Like figure of Ashlan and the intended Christian symbolism used, and instead has turned into a purely entertainment value, with the intent of the writer all but gone to the special affects, and magical aspects being portrayed. It would have been better that at the end he had added the relationship to Jesus, and Salvation in his writing of these books, but he did not or maybe he did and they've been edited out in the newer editions. Different times probably had much to do with why he didn't if he didn't. Even C.S. Lewis was not perfect in his insight, into how the ever darkening heart of humanity in their quest for self-gratification would evolve.

You can look at this from the point of view of a strong Christian playing and guiding others, but in truth should be seen from the one who brings this baggage with them into their walk with Jesus. It will not help them in their walk, and I truly believe will hinder it. So, you discuss the alternative point of view, will only justify the weaker brother & sister to persist in something that will hold them back and may even turn them away, because they won't have time or the inclination to listen to something else without great pains.

As a personal responsibility you are welcome to utilize it as you will, since all things are permissible, though not necessarily beneficial. However, I'd take great care with this, because those who promote it, don't know who the recipient of such dialogue will be. There is no way of determining where they stand, and would grasp at your words as a justification of what they do outside of Christ, and so the reason for my continued words to you. There are always consequences, and delving into the Arcane Arts can be devastating. For there is Evil out there that has no love for humanity, be they saved or not, and though you may stand, not everyone exposed to these things will.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[Sue D.]

@Christ4Ever -- thank you / thank you. And your comment regarding the use of marijuana -- so very true. It's Much Too Easy to Fall and that is exactly what satan wants us to do.

 

[A. Christian]

Dear Brother,
Just the listing of character sheets tells me that you are down playing the contents, and the "usual" game play. We used to have a couple of Members here at Talk Jesus who were former practicing witches which would let you know the gate way effect is very real in what many consider fantasy/games. Think of it as how marijuana can lead one to experimentation with other drugs. True not everyone will fall, but if one falls it's one too many.

The mentioning of C.S. Lewis has me of the mind that if he knew what it was going to be turned into, he'd probably have second thoughts. Meaning, the focus has become less the Christ Like figure of Ashlan and the intended Christian symbolism used, and instead has turned into a purely entertainment value, with the intent of the writer all but gone to the special affects, and magical aspects being portrayed. It would have been better that at the end he had added the relationship to Jesus, and Salvation in his writing of these books, but he did not or maybe he did and they've been edited out in the newer editions. Different times probably had much to do with why he didn't if he didn't. Even C.S. Lewis was not perfect in his insight, into how the ever darkening heart of humanity in their quest for self-gratification would evolve.

You can look at this from the point of view of a strong Christian playing and guiding others, but in truth should be seen from the one who brings this baggage with them into their walk with Jesus. It will not help them in their walk, and I truly believe will hinder it. So, you discuss the alternative point of view, will only justify the weaker brother & sister to persist in something that will hold them back and may even turn them away, because they won't have time or the inclination to listen to something else without great pains.

As a personal responsibility you are welcome to utilize it as you will, since all things are permissible, though not necessarily beneficial. However, I'd take great care with this, because those who promote it, don't know who the recipient of such dialogue will be. There is no way of determining where they stand, and would grasp at your words as a justification of what they do outside of Christ, and so the reason for my continued words to you. There are always consequences, and delving into the Arcane Arts can be devastating. For there is Evil out there that has no love for humanity, be they saved or not, and though you may stand, not everyone exposed to these things will.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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I agree that it should be used with caution. Eveything should be used with caution. Even reading the bible should be done with caution or we could find ourselves adopting the wrong doctrines.
And if we stopped doing something because it could also be used for evil then we wouldn't do anything.

But I am curious about your former witch friends. Were they wiccan or qabalists or something different?

 

[Christ4Ever]

I agree that it should be used with caution. Eveything should be used with caution. Even reading the bible should be done with caution or we could find ourselves adopting the wrong doctrines.
And if we stopped doing something because it could also be used for evil then we wouldn't do anything.

But I am curious about your former witch friends. Were they wiccan or qabalists or something different?

Dear Brother,
I notice you don't mention consequences :smile: For in everything be it defined as Good or Evil there is a result awaiting the person who does this or that. Looking at Scripture will assist those in knowing which is beneficial and which is cost prohibitive. Which is why Paul went on to define certain of them specifically to the Church at Corinth.

The Christian has the benefit of having Holy Spirit discernment in seeing the pitfalls awaiting certain actions, as well as the benefits of others, but if not in knowledge of the Word of God, they should still be warned.

So far you have shown benefits, while I have shown you some of the pitfalls. Each person must make their choices. I'm just trying to save them as Paul was from making decisions on items whose dangers out weight the benefits. Hebrews 6 alludes to us growing past certain basic understandings, but still shows also that there is a point whereby one could be separated from God. Such a consequence might be unfathomable to you, but is no less a valid one to have considering the subject matter and what it is associated with it in Scripture. You are welcome to look throughout the OT, but Galatians 5 also speaks to admonitions of this kind. Calling it fantasy/imagination is still something that should be controlled and not let to run wild (2 Corinthians 10:5).

As far as the Sisters in Christ Jesus who were witches. As to what specific coven they were a part of and their particular leanings I could not now say. However, if I were to ask them if they derived any benefit from it. Not to speak for them, but from my interactions with them. They would probably say no. To give you an idea of what I mean. One of the Sisters in Christ was still in almost constant conflict with Spiritual forces set against her.

When I mentioned the type of subject matter we've been discussing on this thread as being "gate ways". There are a couple of books that you might find worth reading. That is if you can find them.

Running Against the Wind by Brian Flynn
Muddy Waters by Nanci Des Gerlaise

There is a darkness that permeates throughout this world, and as His Word gets diluted, and believers less attuned to the battles that are ongoing around them. The greater the danger of falling away happening....if it's not already happening even as we speak.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[Sue D.]

@ A. Christian -- have been wondering -- what do you do with your time -- other books you read -- games you play -- people you interact with?

When you asked Christ4Ever what kind of witches those people were -- you named two different groups. Apparently you're familiar with that. And that is kind of dangerous itself. I've heard of people who've been with Wiccan. With some people it seems to be a status symbol of some kind. It's belonging to a 'group' -- like belonging to a gang. It's a substitute for 'family'. But those are Dangerous families to be associated with. They are required to commit crimes to be part of them and wanting to leave 'family' sometimes is a death sentence.

Part of the ministry of Jesus Christ while He was on the earth was casting demons Out of people. And fortune tellers made good money. People Think they want to know what's going to happen to them. And people who read tarrot cards or the crystal balls. "We" like to think of them as cute and harmless. And the Horoscope section of the paper. Our natural tendency is to Avoid problems / accidents. But God Uses 'stuff' in our lives to work In us. We tend to talk with God More during hard times than Good times.

We're told that 'we' fight against principalities -- powers of darkness. Spiritual warfare is going on all around us -- we just don't see it. We are Also told to focus on Jesus Christ -- and the Armor of God is given to us for a Reason.

So -- D and D and Harry Potter -- Don't mess with them. there are Always people who are fascinated by all of that -- sounds like you're one of them. So Please, for your own health and well-being -- get away from that stuff.

 

[A. Christian]

Ok first to address Christ4Ever. Having played a little bit of D&D. I can say personally it isn't my thing. I believe that it could extremely enjoyable and profitable given the right play group. However, that is a real chore right there. I agree that we have to weigh the consequences. We have to do that for everything like what could the consequences of mountain biking be? Broken arm? Maybe even death? Does the downsides outwiegh the benefits? That's for a person to determine.

Anything in this world can be taken as used for evil. If used incorrectly, anything could have bad consequences. This stuff is no different. The point of the thread is not to prove that this is good but that it isn't inherently evil. But it's just math. But it has gained this stigma that causes some label it as bad but that stigma was raised by religious leaders who feared the growing emptiness of their pews. They wanted to blame something other than the fact that they were missing something in their churches. The only reason this stigma has persisted among the older church members is because of traditions that allow something to be labeled without knowing what it is.

My point is that it is neither inherently good or inherently bad. But like everything else in this world it is all how it is used. I myself can see it used in a way that brings alot of profit. But as with everything else, if a person deems anything unclean to THEM it is unclean. And if anything might cause a brother or sister to stumble, I will abstain from it for THEIR sake. I will never ask you to play D&D. Does that sound agreeable?

By the way would you mind if I asked what your hobbies were?

 

[A. Christian]

@ A. Christian -- have been wondering -- what do you do with your time -- other books you read -- games you play -- people you interact with?

When you asked Christ4Ever what kind of witches those people were -- you named two different groups. Apparently you're familiar with that. And that is kind of dangerous itself. I've heard of people who've been with Wiccan. With some people it seems to be a status symbol of some kind. It's belonging to a 'group' -- like belonging to a gang. It's a substitute for 'family'. But those are Dangerous families to be associated with. They are required to commit crimes to be part of them and wanting to leave 'family' sometimes is a death sentence.

Part of the ministry of Jesus Christ while He was on the earth was casting demons Out of people. And fortune tellers made good money. People Think they want to know what's going to happen to them. And people who read tarrot cards or the crystal balls. "We" like to think of them as cute and harmless. And the Horoscope section of the paper. Our natural tendency is to Avoid problems / accidents. But God Uses 'stuff' in our lives to work In us. We tend to talk with God More during hard times than Good times.

We're told that 'we' fight against principalities -- powers of darkness. Spiritual warfare is going on all around us -- we just don't see it. We are Also told to focus on Jesus Christ -- and the Armor of God is given to us for a Reason.

So -- D and D and Harry Potter -- Don't mess with them. there are Always people who are fascinated by all of that -- sounds like you're one of them. So Please, for your own health and well-being -- get away from that stuff.

To be honest most of my time now a days is taken up with work and family. My little free time. Well recently I've started posting on here. Oh I do enjoy playing MarioKart and this one card game.

But that is not what you are really asking. I learned about the occult mostly western qabalism from a friend that I met in prison. I also learned a little about Islam from a different friend. Remember how I told you that I accepted God's grace while locked up? I know that sounds pretty dangerous, being friends with an occultist and learning about their beliefs. But it wasn't all that dangerous. God was real close to me during that time and there is no way that I could have been sold a counterfeit when I knew the real thing intimately. But I wanted to get personal with Charlie and get to know him. He had a lot of problems and he was hurting and lost. I hope he benefited some how.

But I find that by taking the time to learn about others beliefs that it is easier to understand them, where they come from, where they are heading and hopefully maybe I can help guide them a little.

Trust me I have no interest in being apart of any occult. Nor will I become Mormon or Jehovah's Witness, or Muslim or anything but a child of God. I am very secure in my relationship with God.

 

[Sue D.]

Ok first to address Christ4Ever. Having played a little bit of D&D. I can say personally it isn't my thing. I believe that it could extremely enjoyable and profitable given the right play group. However, that is a real chore right there. I agree that we have to weigh the consequences. We have to do that for everything like what could the consequences of mountain biking be? Broken arm? Maybe even death? Does the downsides outwiegh the benefits? That's for a person to determine.

Anything in this world can be taken as used for evil. If used incorrectly, anything could have bad consequences. This stuff is no different. The point of the thread is not to prove that this is good but that it isn't inherently evil. But it's just math. But it has gained this stigma that causes some label it as bad but that stigma was raised by religious leaders who feared the growing emptiness of their pews. They wanted to blame something other than the fact that they were missing something in their churches. The only reason this stigma has persisted among the older church members is because of traditions that allow something to be labeled without knowing what it is.

My point is that it is neither inherently good or inherently bad. But like everything else in this world it is all how it is used. I myself can see it used in a way that brings alot of profit. But as with everything else, if a person deems anything unclean to THEM it is unclean. And if anything might cause a brother or sister to stumble, I will abstain from it for THEIR sake. I will never ask you to play D&D. Does that sound agreeable?

By the way would you mind if I asked what your hobbies were?

You're addressing Christ4Ever -- however -- i happen to know a guy who Does mountain biking -- he rides for Miles most every day. He's an older guy and really enjoys it. Your comment -- going to extremes there a bit.

Some things -- are Questianable -- to say the least -- and it sounds like you're trying to rationalize D and D. Kind of like going to a bar because some of your friends invite you and you want to feel part of the group. You only have 1 or two beers while the 'rest of them' are having More. And Others in there have a drinking problem -- they are drinking Instead of being at home with their wives / kids. So -- You're not really doing anything 'bad' yourself. Or going to horse racing -- betting on a horse -- 'everybody does it'. Some do it only to a mild, fun degree and Others really get caught up in it and Waste their hard-earned money on the horses and don't provide for their families. It's gambling and is addictive.

So -- better to Not get into stuff like that.

It's 'just math' -- I'm sure there are other math games available that are of a better influence.

And Maybe church leaders Aren't feeding their flocks from God's Word. And maybe people don't Like or Want to hear God's Word because It's Convicting. And Scripture Does say to avoid all appearances Of evil.

Older church members have been fed from God's Word and Know to abstain from even the appearance of evil. Because they are old enough to know how damaging Purposely playing with the world Can Be.

Maybe you should abstain for Your own sake as well.

 

[Sue D.]

To be honest most of my time now a days is taken up with work and family. My little free time. Well recently I've started posting on here. Oh I do enjoy playing MarioKart and this one card game.

But that is not what you are really asking. I learned about the occult mostly western qabalism from a friend that I met in prison. I also learned a little about Islam from a different friend. Remember how I told you that I accepted God's grace while locked up? I know that sounds pretty dangerous, being friends with an occultist and learning about their beliefs. But it wasn't all that dangerous. God was real close to me during that time and there is no way that I could have been sold a counterfeit when I knew the real thing intimately. But I wanted to get personal with Charlie and get to know him. He had a lot of problems and he was hurting and lost. I hope he benefited some how.

But I find that by taking the time to learn about others beliefs that it is easier to understand them, where they come from, where they are heading and hopefully maybe I can help guide them a little.

Trust me I have no interest in being apart of any occult. Nor will I become Mormon or Jehovah's Witness, or Muslim or anything but a child of God. I am very secure in my relationship with God.

Okay -- so in prison a person connects with lots of others who have committed crimes and are in punishment For those crimes.

You accepted Christ as your savior in prison and had been reaching out to the other inmates in hopes of helping / guiding them to a Christian way of life -- being a follower of Jesus Christ.

Your intentions were very noble, Did you ever see those guys come to Christ? Just curious. Hopefully you Did have a good impact on them through God's Word. How About Charlie -- any communication with him Since then?

It's Always dangerous to be friends with an occultist and learn about their beliefs -- that's when satan's influence is greatest for you. He helps you rationalize the bad to make it seem 'not really all That bad'.

You've just stated that you're very secure in your relationship with God -- certainly Hope so -- because you've Been sounding a bit Too content to dabble around dangerous waters.

Be Very into God's Word. Be praying for those guys you had contact with so that they might be able to get to accepting Christ as Their personal Savior.

 

[Sue D.]

I will share that I've been in several Forums over the years. Was getting into Biblical counseling and then doctrinal apologetics. -- what a person Does believe and Why they believe it. Have gotten into some very interesting discussions. Learn a lot of Bible that way.

 

[Brother-Paul]

JK Rowling is a Christian. She's a member of the Church of Scotland. She didn't talk about the Christian inspiration for Harry Potter as she didn't want to give away the ending of the books.

Greeting brother,

Being a member of the Church of Scotland, or any other does not make you Christian, it attaches you to a denomination.

There are many who profess to be Christians but are not born again.

There are many who think they are Christians but are not.

 

[Brother-Paul]

As I read through the messages here my heart is troubled.

As we know God is Light the devil loves darkness, God is Love from the devil we have fear and more.

Does not Harry Potter include sorcery and magic? Yes it does.

Does the Bible include sorcery and magic, it does but only as a warning

2 Kings 21:6 (NKJV)
6 Also he made his son pass through the fire, practiced soothsaying, used witchcraft, and consulted spiritists and mediums. He did much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke Him to anger.

Acts 8:9-11 (NKJV)
9 But there was a certain man called Simon, who previously practiced sorcery in the city and astonished the people of Samaria, claiming that he was someone great,
10 to whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, "This man is the great power of God."
11 And they heeded him because he had astonished them with his sorceries for a long time.

Acts 13:6-7 (NKJV)
6 Now when they had gone through the island to Paphos, they found a certain sorcerer, a false prophet, a Jew whose name was Bar-Jesus,
7 who was with the proconsul, Sergius Paulus, an intelligent man. This man called for Barnabas and Saul and sought to hear the word of God.

Leviticus 20:6 (NKJV)
6 'And the person who turns to mediums and familiar spirits, to prostitute himself with them, I will set My face against that person and cut him off from his people.

There are many verses about sorcery, magic and whitchcraft, we have been warned.

The devil loves the murky water, he loves to entice us out of 'The Light'. Books and films are rife with devilish ways but are masked with a little good to entice us on to the broad road, away from the narrow road that leads to Life.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 (NKJV)
14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

An example that comes to mind, Mamma Mia, there are millions of examples, this just comes to me at this time.

It is a musical - good
It is Abba music - good
It is a story with a good ending - good but most finish this way

Lets look at the murky water
It is about a woman who went with three men and had sex with all of them, a bit of a slapper!
She became pregnant but did not know which man was the dad!
She had lied to her daughter, it wasn't until she was to get married herself she search for her dad.

The SIN(s) are mixed in with the good to make it acceptable.

Should these items not be warnings to us, are we to accept the murky waters SIN and say well it's a good story and I like the music. The fact is it is not a good story and the music can be listened to other ways.

This simple film is very basic compared to the likes of sorcery and magic, sorcery and magic can and has provoked God to anger. 2 Kings 21:6

I am sure the story of Harry Potter is on the surface - good, most books and films are, that is how people are drawn into the Sinful environment. As for me I do not feel I am able to call myself a Christian, a born again Christian, a person who follows God's Word and Jesus, if I do not also accept the warning scripture gives me. Each person must make their own decision.

Many say we live in a world of SIN, and so we do. Some say we cannot get away from SIN and treat it as acceptable, or as just little sins. There is no such thing as little sins. If we are not for God we are against him. If we do not do His will and live according to The Word, we are living according to... Sin, the World and the Devil.

Sorcery, magic, witchcraft, and the like are from the devil.

We live in a world that influences us daily, like it has never done before, we are living in the end times, the latter days of the end times...
a period we are told 'the devil will appear to have domain'

Blessings

 

[Hekuran]

Greeting brother,

Being a member of the Church of Scotland, or any other does not make you Christian, it attaches you to a denomination.

There are many who profess to be Christians but are not born again.

There are many who think they are Christians but are not.

No of course not. Following Jesus Lord and Saviour is what makes you a Christian. What's your point?

 

[Brother-Paul]

No of course not. Following Jesus Lord and Saviour is what makes you a Christian. What's your point?

Being a member of the Church of Scotland, or any other does not make you Christian, it attaches you to a denomination.

So is JK Rowlings a Christian?

We tell a tree by it's fruit.

Sorcery, magic, spells???

 

[Hekuran]

Being a member of the Church of Scotland, or any other does not make you Christian, it attaches you to a denomination.

So is JK Rowlings a Christian?

We tell a tree by it's fruit.

Sorcery, magic, spells???

She wrote children's fiction about a school for wizards. That doesn't make her a sorcerer any more than a crime fiction makes the author a burglar.

This article was written before the final book was published. Does Harry Potter Teach Christianity?

If you've not followed the books, you are unlikely to understand.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Ok first to address Christ4Ever. Having played a little bit of D&D. I can say personally it isn't my thing. I believe that it could extremely enjoyable and profitable given the right play group. However, that is a real chore right there. I agree that we have to weigh the consequences. We have to do that for everything like what could the consequences of mountain biking be? Broken arm? Maybe even death? Does the downsides outwiegh the benefits? That's for a person to determine.

Anything in this world can be taken as used for evil. If used incorrectly, anything could have bad consequences. This stuff is no different. The point of the thread is not to prove that this is good but that it isn't inherently evil. But it's just math. But it has gained this stigma that causes some label it as bad but that stigma was raised by religious leaders who feared the growing emptiness of their pews. They wanted to blame something other than the fact that they were missing something in their churches. The only reason this stigma has persisted among the older church members is because of traditions that allow something to be labeled without knowing what it is.

My point is that it is neither inherently good or inherently bad. But like everything else in this world it is all how it is used. I myself can see it used in a way that brings alot of profit. But as with everything else, if a person deems anything unclean to THEM it is unclean. And if anything might cause a brother or sister to stumble, I will abstain from it for THEIR sake. I will never ask you to play D&D. Does that sound agreeable?

By the way would you mind if I asked what your hobbies were?

Dear Brother,
Let's try a different tact. Please define evil as you see it. Since I sense that to you the foundation of everything is math, and numbers are neither good or evil but adiaphorous. With that understanding how then can something be quantified as being evil if the substance of it is not regardless of how one uses it? To kind of answer my own question and posing another one to you. Won't one require a moral understanding and not numerical one in order to know good from evil?

I'll leave it here for the moment, while I await your reply but, will attempt to answer some of your personal questions in a follow-up post.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[Brother-Paul]

She wrote children's fiction about a school for wizards. That doesn't make her a sorcerer any more than a crime fiction makes the author a burglar.

This article was written before the final book was published. Does Harry Potter Teach Christianity?

If you've not followed the books, you are unlikely to understand.

There is a misunderstanding brother

There are two parts to the reply, taken from two parts of a post.

1 - I never said she was a sorcerer, I did say in my reply that saying she was a Christian and that she is a member of the Church of Scotland, this does not make her a Christian only a member of a denomination. Unless she is born again she is not a Christian, certainly not a saved soul.

2 - The reply regarding Harry Potter, as confirmed, book or film, it includes sorcery and magic The Bible tells us is not right.

I will not watch the films or read the book because the Bible tells us we are to avoid these things. A search on google for...
does harry potter include sorcery and magic. Tell me all I need to know.

The Harry Potter books make witchcraft and the practice of magic seem appealing and fun; therefore, parents shouldn’t allow their children to read them.

A letter from an ex witch says...
Sorcery and witchcraft are real. Although it is valid to clarify witchcraft vs. sorcery, whether Harry Potter is called a witch, wizard, or sorcerer is irrelevant when looking at the content of these books to determine if they are appropriate for young people. Sorcery is nothing less than the attempt to replace God,..
Harry's books are about a young 11-year-old generational wizard, Harry Potter, who attends the prestigious 1000-year-old occult boarding school, Hogwart's School of witchcraft and Wizardry. All his teachers are practicing occultists, and tutor their students in the dark arts of sorcery and divination: fortune telling, astrology, potion mixing, spell weaving and curse casting.

Above I read, parents shouldn’t allow their children to read them. But would add should any truly born again Christian watch or read such things?

It goes back to a discussion in a post within the last month. If someone offered you a glass of crystal pure spring water and cut their finger and let a drop of their blood drip in it would you drink the water. All things against God are SIN, it doesn't matter whether it is a little like Mamma Mia example, or a lot more like Harry Potter, evil is evil, anything against God and His Word is evil and should be avoided to avoid contamination, to avoid sin. The devil loves to make things appear wonderful but are just ways to entice us from Christ.

If J K Rawlings is a Christian, that is a born again Christian, a Bible believing Christian, she would know what is good and what is evil in God's eyes. She would have never written Harry Potter books.

Blessings.