I now will explain in laymen [human] terms what does the term “Born of GOD” means. But a person not “Born of GOD” still Cannot know what it means

[PloughBoy]

Although I will explain what it means. BUT, one that is not “Born of GOD” still “Cannot” [have the Ability] to this understanding what I am saying, but yet understand what I am saying. that you cannot understand what I am saying.

A person can be a “Christian” and Not “Born of GOD”!

A person can be “Born of GOD” and be a “Christian”.

I am not going Into great details. But These Statements are True and “Theologically Sound”.

I am setting The Pace to explain, What “Born of GOD” means, I WILL refrain from using the Translated term which is Not “Theologically” sound, “born again“. But a Translated replacement word term FOR “BORN FROM ABOVE”

Now I am only doing this for The ones who do not know what The Biblical term actually means.
“Born Of GOD” That you may be “Sound” and Solid.


But to those who have their own interpretations, you may keep them. This is not meant for you. Each man and women to its own.
And if you do not like, my “Explanation” fine, throw it in the Garbage and keep it moving and Shake The very “Dust off your Feet”!

Part 1. “The Introduction Post.

 

[B-A-C]

A few verses define this as someone who...

1Jn 3:9; No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jn 5:18; We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him.

So I suppose that's one way to know if you are born of God.

 

[PloughBoy]

Part 2.

New American Standard Bible
The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but you do not know where it is coming from and where it is going; SO IS everyone who has been born of the Spirit.

In good and reliable translations, When referring to deity if The Word “Spirit” begins with a Capital “S” in Context it most likely is referred to as “Deity”. Now, speaking only to those who believe in “The Triune GOD” and I am not Addressing all the others religious ones throughout the world but only to those who has Excepted “The Trinty”.

For those who want to Argue and Fight Concerning The Trinty feel free to start another “Thread”! I am quite sure you will have a great following.

Some may think, The Term: “Born of GOD” means a Change of Mind.

It doesn’t!

Some make Think I have given my Life to “Jesus” [GOD].

It doesn’t!

Some May say, It means I Have Accepted Jesus.

It doesn’t!

1st. Thing it means, you Have Become A “New Creature” REALLY! You look the same on the outside

You got the same Human body, the same Brain, the same Flesh, The Same soul, but still something else has entered You! Something “Brand New”. A “SPIRIT” The Word of GOD calls It “The PARAKLETOS”

Write it DOWN! “GOD” Has Entered YOU!! A POWER MORE POWERFUL than A “Trillion” Nuclear Bombs!

This Power Will Raise you up from the Dead and Will EMPOWER you Throughout “ENTERNITY” and You known it, a book do not Have to Tell you! What kind Of “Creature” you Have Become!

And Now, you begin to Learn about This POWER and When you Will Receive “THE FULL INHERITANCE OF This POWER”
And How “GOD” The FATHER” is preparing you to receive your Full Adoption.

The only Way you can be A “Child of GOD” you must be “BORN of GOD” you must be!

You cannot Birth yourself you cannot make yourself a “Child of GOD” you have not the Ability to make yourself a “Child of GOD” and Inheit “All ETERNITY” only A Fool can Think They Have The POWER to make Themselves A”Child of GOD” and Inherit All “ETERNITY”.

How can anyone Think they can make themselves a Joint Heir of “JESUS CHRIST” The Only SON of The LIVING GOD That has Always been With His FATHER!

A Christian might think they can make Themselves an “Heir of GOD’s ETERNITY”!

There is nothing we Can do to claim that honor! Nothing we Can do to take That Out of The Hand of GoD and Take on A right of “The Christ of GOD”!

And The Gift is not earn or Deserved.
And Should not Be Given if “Justice” is to be served! if GOD the FATHER would Give us Justice we all are damn.

But Mercy.
We do not want “Justice” we Need, we want “Mercy”

To be “Born of “GOD”, “Born of The Spirit” “Born of Heaven”
Means in Laymen terms:
[ For 25 years you was Black, Your parents was Black, your relatives was Black, your Skin was Black, everyone knew you as Black your school knew you as Black you Job knew you as black you name was “John Brown” your Daddy name was “John Brown” your Mama name was “June Brown”.

Then on August the 15 in The 25 year of You life. You woke up early when it was still dark and went into the Bathroom and cut on The Light and look in the Mirror and you was “White”! A white person!

You wash up, you know you done change, you go to the Breakfast Table, everybody look at you strange and They say: “You done change”, you come out the house the neighbors watch you for 25 years, they know it is you, but you done change.

You go to work your co worker your boss been knowing you for 10 years you done change.

The women in your Environment start saying you done change.

They are going to say, 5 years later you are different, But I remember when you use to do this, say that I remember how you used to be “Your Mouth ain’t no prayer book”

I remember when you used to smoke that weed, chase those women! I remember when you when you was black

Yea , he think he better than everybody.

Week go by, here comes Nicodemus by night I having problems, my daddy is sick, would you pray for him?


Here come another, my mother is in the Hospital they think she ain’t going to make it. Then the next day, you go the hospital, nobody even know you. You walk in the room with your Bible in your Hand, your Credential card in your wallet, you introduce yourself, you ask them, “Can I pray with you”” you ask for permission to pray With them.
You Pray, you thank them and walk out, and Nevergive a Second after wards The prayer has been forgotten and the Occasion another Thought. but “But GOD”!

Those were my Younger years When I didn’t know Better, and men was not my guide. my Bible was in My hand. No programs, ho system, no group. Just A Fool with my Bible in My hand.

“Born of GOD”
empowered by “The PARAKLETOS “ of GOD!

 

[PloughBoy]

No one has to tell you About The POWER that enters you! “THE PARAKLETOS” Empowers you And you Cannot But Be a “Witness”!

When you have been “BORN OF GOD” “BORN OF HEAVEN” “BORN FROM ABOVE”

It is “PNEUMATIC”!

Being A “Christian” does not Empower you to be a “Witness” unto The Utmost parts of The World!
Nor a change of Mind empowers you to be a Witness.

But if Your are “Born of GOD” you are Empowered by “The PARAKLETOS”!

In laymen terms.

 

[God's Truth]

Can't be born again unless you die.

Born again after repenting of sins and crucifying yourself to sin with Christ on the cross, and have faith that Jesus' shed blood on the cross purifies you.

Then the person is born again and and has no sin like a new born baby.

And you live your new born again life pleasing Jesus by obeying him.

 

[God's Truth]

Romans 6:6 We know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should no longer be slaves to sin.

Colossians 3:3 For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.

Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Galatians 5:16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.

Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave

Colossians 2:20 If you have died with Christ to the spiritual forces of the world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its regulations:

1 Peter 2:24 He Himself bore our sins in His body on the tree, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. "By His stripes you are healed."

John 3:3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”

 

[PloughBoy]

Romans 6:6 We know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should no longer be slaves to sin.

Colossians 3:3 For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.

Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Galatians 5:16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.

Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave

Colossians 2:20 If you have died with Christ to the spiritual forces of the world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its regulations:

1 Peter 2:24 He Himself bore our sins in His body on the tree, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. "By His stripes you are healed."

John 3:3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”

Romans 6:6 We know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should no longer be slaves to sin.

Colossians 3:3 For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.

Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Galatians 5:16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.

Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave

Colossians 2:20 If you have died with Christ to the spiritual forces of the world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its regulations:

1 Peter 2:24 He Himself bore our sins in His body on the tree, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. "By His stripes you are healed."

John 3:3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”

I understand fully, but I will not use the Substitute term “Born again” for the original “Born from Above”.

Because it can be deceptive.

For many Christian’s,and all kinds of people. Used that term and they are correct.

One says; I used to be a drunk I do not drink no more, I am a new person, I am “Born Again”. Another may say, I was Women chaser but Now I am not, I am a new person, I been “Born Again”

Another said. I never heard about “Jesus” I went to church and heard about him, I believe He exists, so they told me I had to be Baptize. So I did, so now I am a new person, I never heard about Jesus, so they told me, so now I am A new person, I am born Again. A new look at life on earth.

Nothing about eternal life. But oh yes I go to a place called heaven when I die.

The drunk is right, the woman chaser is right, the Muslim is right, the Mormon is right, the Jehovah Witness is right, the drug addict is right. They all have become a new person. They have been “Born AGAIN”!

And we cannot tell them different, if we try, we become but liars, for truly they have been “Born Again” and now they have a chance to re-live their lives over and be a better earthly person and be more profitable and make this a better world. For they have been born again.

This is a true statement.

Only thing you have to do is march across earth in every country and on the 7 continents. And every street corner. And they will tell you about “Being Born Again”


Now, ask one about being “Born From Above” or “Born of GOD” or “Born of The SPIRIT OF GOD”……They will go point Plank! They have no idea what you are talking about…..Unless They Have Been “Born From Above”….. you will not be able to stop their mouths from speaking , because of The “PNEUMATIC” that lives in Them which is “Alive” and THE FORCE THAT WITINESS!

WE ARE not The “Witness” The WITNESS IS IN us! And it is That POWER in us, THAT Witness on Earth!

Men can mention The Name of Jesus and it means nothing if “The PNEUMATIC” is not in Them!

“No one can say Jesus is LORD unless EMPOWERED by THE SPIRIT of GOD”
If the “PARAKLETOS” is not in them, no matter how many times they say “Jesus is LORD” it means Nothing!

“Paul I know, JESUS I Know, But Who are you?”

You must Be “BORN From ABOVE”

Not again! You Must Be “Born of HEAVEN” not From earth again!

1st. Man. “earthly” born.
2nd Man. “heavenly” born.

These are Real Births not new ways or new thoughts of life!
So is earthy
So is Heavenly

Too many think, your heavenly life begins in Heaven!

Your Heavenly Life begins The Day you had your “Heavenly Birth!!

Your second birth was not a earthly one, you ain’t the same creature your neighbor is they are devils! Take a real look around your house, some of y’all are sleeping with devils!

I knew this lady she is a “Millionaire” drives a $200,000 car, we where talking about GOD And she brought up her boyfriend all of of sudden, I just listen, then she said: “he is A devil ain’t he”? We both laugh.
[ she did not want to cut that Devil a loose, she good looking].

When you are a child of GOD and want to know such kinds of TRUTH that is “Theological Sound” you do have to ask nobody!

But you still love lies!

Because you was one Too! Nothing but a devil!
Your horns are trying to come back on top your head, because I am telling you the truth!

And The TRUTH has no place in that Flesh! That flesh is So Irritable right now, Squirming, that old nature is Puffing smoke, the top of your head is so warm about now.

It is a Shock, When “GOD” reveal this Truth to some, they Faint, and many have a hard time to recover. But when they do, they really do become humble to the Grace that has been given to them in Christ and JESUS become LORD and man is nothing but a corrupted creature both saved and unsaved who demand “preeminent” be given to them by other men.
One day there will Not Be A “DEMOCRACY” for “DEMOCRACY” is evil too!
Their Will be a “THEOCRACY”.

And He will Begin Ruling With A “IRON ROD”. He will not be taking any Lip! “SWIFT JUSTICE”. And Every Knee will Bow! For many will not want to Bow, But they will before that “IRON ROD”

Oh yea, they are going to try to gather again to Kill Him again and All of His Brethern.

They think they can Run things better and make earth a better place. You know, just like they think today.
Vote for Joe Blow, and “Alice in Wonderland”
And go “Green”.

Yea right, must going to do it with “Paint”
Because the way water is flowing there is going be a problem.

Those Swimming pool days are about over. Unless pools are going to filled with salt water!
Soft water.

Culligan
man!

 

[Beetow]

There's only been one person ever truly God's progeny and that's his son Jesus.
(John 1:14, John 1:18, John 3:16, Heb 11:17, and 1John 4:9)

Born-again Christians sometimes like to think of themselves as God's progeny but
in reality they are merely his handiwork, i.e. creations. (Eph 2:10, Col 3:10) and
have a place in God's home by adoption. (Rom 8:15, Gal 4:5, Eph 1:5)
_

 

[God's Truth]

Just obey Jesus, people. Go by what Jesus says in the Bible and not what any denomination says.

 

[Garee]

Just obey Jesus, people. Go by what Jesus says in the Bible and not what any denomination says.

I would agree But you said, "We hear Him as we read the scriptures". when I asked "Do we have to hear him before we obey Him ?"

Do the living abiding words that works in our new born again hearts give us his understanding or does it come from one owns self by using our own imagination?

His word gives us the unseen power casusing us to repent . Cause and effect( both) Let there be and it was good.

Can't put the cart before the horse .Or take away the understanding of the Potter. . Can Chrsitians?

 

[PloughBoy]

I just read about 1/2 hour of messages on all the kinds of “Born again” Christian’s. And how they are born again.

The last one I had enough.

The last one I read she ask the Question: can a born again Christian woman marry another born again Christian woman.

I had enough of these “Born again” christians

I am different, BIG TIME!

I “M “BORN OF GOD”. My Citizenship is in HEAVEN!

I do not belong Down here with these Folks!

I do not fit! With the born again people down here.

I read 1/2 hour of testimonies.

I just do not fit, no where on this planet.
Just simple as that, no hard feeling, just get me out of here.

I hope he ain’t left me.

I cannot remember when the last time I even saw a I do not know even what to call them no more.

There ain’t no more, males no more females. All kinds of husbands all kinds of wives.

I’m getting confused.

The other day they said her wive, and a pause for while then it was her husband, but I did see the man. I didn’t figure that out until about 2-3 minutes later.

And can’t talk about it. If you do, they going reprogram you!

Give you shot, with some “Nano Bites” on the needle!

 

[gsmonte]

A few verses define this as someone who...

1Jn 3:9; No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jn 5:18; We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him.

So I suppose that's one way to know if you are born of God.

We are in the world, not of the world, seeing that the whole world is in deception(Jn. 15:19; 17:11-19; Rev. 12:9). According to Scripture, 1 Jn. 3:9, is saying; “Everyone being generated(created/begotten/brought forth/formed) out of the Divine(God) is not producing(causing/doing/practicing) sin, seeing that(because/for) His(the Almighty-One/God) Seed is remaining in him(the one being generated), and he(the one being begotten) is not able to be sinning(missing the Mark), for he(the one being created) is being formed out of the Divine.” Scripture is saying according to Jn. 5:18; “We are perceiving(knowing/becoming aware) that everyone being generated(begotten/formed/created/brought forth) out of the Divine(God) is not missing the Mark(sinning), nevertheless(but), the one being begotten(created etc.) out of the God(Divine) is keeping himself, and the wicked one(adversary) is not touching(influencing) him.” Verses 19 and 20; “We are aware that we are out of the Divine(God), and the whole world is lying in the wicked-one(adversary). And we are aware that the Divine Son is arriving and is being given to us thru understanding(comprehension), in order that we are knowing the Truthful-One(True God), and, knowing, we are in the True-One, in His Son, Yahusha HaMashiach(Salvation, the Anointed-One). In this manner is the Truthful(True) Almighty-One(God) and eonian(undying/immortal) life. Having this knowledge we come to the understanding that we are being brought forth out of dying/dead bodies by the resurrection power of our Savior. As long as we are in this dying world we are not yet born, but are being generated out of dying bodies, collectively, not individually, our birth will be at the last day when the Anointed-One appears, the Resurrection Day, even the day of judgment. We will at that time be brought out of death and into Life(True Life). Col. 1:27; Jn. 11:25; 14:6,18; 6:39,40,44,54; 12:48; 1 Cor. 15:45,46,49,51-57; 42-44. Let he who has an ear(is given true knowledge), hear(understand) what the Spirit(Truth) is saying. Psalm 117; 2 Tim. 2:15,16; 3:16,17

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

One says; I used to be a drunk I do not drink no more, I am a new person, I am “Born Again”. Another may say, I was Women chaser but Now I am not, I am a new person, I been “Born Again”

Another said. I never heard about “Jesus” I went to church and heard about him, I believe He exists, so they told me I had to be Baptize. So I did, so now I am a new person, I never heard about Jesus, so they told me, so now I am A new person, I am born Again. A new look at life on earth.

Their past experiences of drinking and sleeping around are embedded in their subconscious. It could be suppressed for a while, but when things get tough like the past two years, they're in grieve danger of relapse. It's like the shallow soil in the Sower Parable, you know. To be truly born from above, the old habits must be replaced with new habits from above. That's why Jesus urged his listeners in various ways to be a doer of His words, not just a hearer. It's not a one and done deal or a crash course, but a gradual process, a life long race. It requires daily walk with the Holy Spirit, and the moment of "being saved" is just a start of this new journey.

 

[gsmonte]

Their past experiences of drinking and sleeping around are embedded in their subconscious. It could be suppressed for a while, but when things get tough like the past two years, they're in grieve danger of relapse. It's like the shallow soil in the Sower Parable, you know. To be truly born from above, the old habits must be replaced with new habits from above. That's why Jesus urged his listeners in various ways to be a doer of His words, not just a hearer. It's not a one and done deal or a crash course, but a gradual process, a life long race. It requires daily walk with the Holy Spirit, and the moment of "being saved" is just a start of this new journey.

We’ve all been indoctrinated into believing and accepting deceiving spirits(lying words) ever since man partook, and is still partaking of, “the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.” Man has become his worst enemy, deceiving himself with impunity, and continually seeking to justify himself through deception. Man constantly rejects the Truth, and like Cain, he runs greedily after false gods, giving glory to the will and lust of the carnal mind received from the forbidden tree(Jud. 11; Rom. 8:7). Waterless clouds carried away by winds(deceiving spirits/lying words). Our adversary is more subtle than any creature in the world and has deceived the whole world(Gen. 4:1; Rev. 12:9). Knowing all Scripture is God-breathed(Divinly-spoken), 2 Tim. 3:16, we as called-out ones and partakers of the Anointed-One, are to take heed to 1 Jn. 4:1, and try(test) all the spirits, to come to know if they are from the Divine(God). Putting Jn. 3, to test we find that among others verse 3 is is highly corrupted, by biased translators, the modern Pharisees, our contemporaries. According to Scripture, the Anointed Savior said to Nic., Faithfully, faithfully, I am saying to you, unless a certain one is being begotten(generated/brought forth) from above, no one is able to be knowing(perceiving) the Divine kingdom.” He, Yahusha, is the kingdom. With out Him there is no kingdom standing before Nicodemus at the time of His discourse with the man who lied and said, verse 2, “ we know…”. Nicodemus then missed the Mark by suggesting man “enters” a second time in a mother’s womb to be generated again. The Savior corrected him, telling him that it is Spiritual Water from above that one will be entering. Our Savior, the Anointed-One, is that Spiritual Water that all of mankind will be and is now being generated into(verse 8). Creation will not be finished until the last day, at that time those whom the Almighty-One is choosing, and has chosen, will be born out of dead and dying bodies through the resurrection power of the Savior, the Father who is in Him and who He is in also(Jn. 14:-17:17,20-26). Pslm117: 2 Tim. 2:15,16; 3:16,17

 

[gsmonte]

We’ve all been indoctrinated into believing and accepting deceiving spirits(lying words) ever since man partook, and is still partaking of, “the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.” Man has become his worst enemy, deceiving himself with impunity, and continually seeking to justify himself through deception. Man constantly rejects the Truth, and like Cain, he runs greedily after false gods, giving glory to the will and lust of the carnal mind received from the forbidden tree(Jud. 11; Rom. 8:7). Waterless clouds carried away by winds(deceiving spirits/lying words). Our adversary is more subtle than any creature in the world and has deceived the whole world(Gen. 4:1; Rev. 12:9). Knowing all Scripture is God-breathed(Divinly-spoken), 2 Tim. 3:16, we as called-out ones and partakers of the Anointed-One, are to take heed to 1 Jn. 4:1, and try(test) all the spirits, to come to know if they are from the Divine(God). Putting Jn. 3, to test we find that among others verse 3 is is highly corrupted, by biased translators, the modern Pharisees, our contemporaries. According to Scripture, the Anointed Savior said to Nic., Faithfully, faithfully, I am saying to you, unless a certain one is being begotten(generated/brought forth) from above, no one is able to be knowing(perceiving) the Divine kingdom.” He, Yahusha, is the kingdom. With out Him there is no kingdom standing before Nicodemus at the time of His discourse with the man who lied and said, verse 2, “ we know…”. Nicodemus then missed the Mark by suggesting man “enters” a second time in a mother’s womb to be generated again. The Savior corrected him, telling him that it is Spiritual Water from above that one will be entering. Our Savior, the Anointed-One, is that Spiritual Water that all of mankind will be and is now being generated into(verse 8). Creation will not be finished until the last day, at that time those whom the Almighty-One is choosing, and has chosen, will be born out of dead and dying bodies through the resurrection power of the Savior, the Father who is in Him and who He is in also(Jn. 14:-17:17,20-26). Pslm117: 2 Tim. 2:15,16; 3:16,17

Take note, there is only one Spirit(God), the Father. Now the Father(God/Spirit) is in the Son, who is the Spirit of the Father. The Father and the Son are one(Spirit/Truth/God). Jn.4:24; 14:6; 17:25

 

[PloughBoy]

I understand “GOD” purpose of All Creation. That is made very Clear, by “The Volume of The Book” for It was Written For The Very “Elect”. “The Sons of The LIVING GOD”. “indicative”. Period.

Now as relating to The Title Thread?

“I now will explain in laymen [human] terms what does the term “Born of GOD” means. But a person not “Born of GOD” still Cannot know what it means”​

I might start another “Thread” Titled

“Bibical Terminology” what “Born of GOD” means not in Laymen Terms But Biblical Terms.

 

[Garee]

Take note, there is only one Spirit(God), the Father. Now the Father(God/Spirit) is in the Son, who is the Spirit of the Father. The Father and the Son are one(Spirit/Truth/God). Jn.4:24; 14:6; 17:25

Etenal God 's Spirit is seperate from His creation the temporal seen He cannot be found by searcing out the rudiments as elements of this world . Neither under a micoscope or through a telescope . Pagnaism sees God in every thing .God does not live as a tree or rock .

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

We’ve all been indoctrinated into believing and accepting deceiving spirits(lying words) ever since man partook, and is still partaking of, “the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.” Man has become his worst enemy, deceiving himself with impunity, and continually seeking to justify himself through deception. Man constantly rejects the Truth, and like Cain, he runs greedily after false gods, giving glory to the will and lust of the carnal mind received from the forbidden tree(Jud. 11; Rom. 8:7). Waterless clouds carried away by winds(deceiving spirits/lying words). Our adversary is more subtle than any creature in the world and has deceived the whole world(Gen. 4:1; Rev. 12:9). Knowing all Scripture is God-breathed(Divinly-spoken), 2 Tim. 3:16, we as called-out ones and partakers of the Anointed-One, are to take heed to 1 Jn. 4:1, and try(test) all the spirits, to come to know if they are from the Divine(God). Putting Jn. 3, to test we find that among others verse 3 is is highly corrupted, by biased translators, the modern Pharisees, our contemporaries. According to Scripture, the Anointed Savior said to Nic., Faithfully, faithfully, I am saying to you, unless a certain one is being begotten(generated/brought forth) from above, no one is able to be knowing(perceiving) the Divine kingdom.” He, Yahusha, is the kingdom. With out Him there is no kingdom standing before Nicodemus at the time of His discourse with the man who lied and said, verse 2, “ we know…”. Nicodemus then missed the Mark by suggesting man “enters” a second time in a mother’s womb to be generated again. The Savior corrected him, telling him that it is Spiritual Water from above that one will be entering. Our Savior, the Anointed-One, is that Spiritual Water that all of mankind will be and is now being generated into(verse 8). Creation will not be finished until the last day, at that time those whom the Almighty-One is choosing, and has chosen, will be born out of dead and dying bodies through the resurrection power of the Savior, the Father who is in Him and who He is in also(Jn. 14:-17:17,20-26). Pslm117: 2 Tim. 2:15,16; 3:16,17

Either born again or born from above, it was referring to the annointing of the Holy Spirit, the first breath in the newness of life, and as I said, that was just a start. We're expected to grow up, not staying in infancy forever. This is the problem of a lot of so called megachurches, they prioritize on "marketing" of the gospel instead of training up the congregation they've already had.

 

[gsmonte]

Either born again or born from above, it was referring to the annointing of the Holy Spirit, the first breath in the newness of life, and as I said, that was just a start. We're expected to grow up, not staying in infancy forever. This is the problem of a lot of so called megachurches, they prioritize on "marketing" of the gospel instead of training up the congregation they've already had.

Neither born again nor born from above, we are being, present tense, begotten, or, generated from above by the Spirit(Truth/Word). The Divine(God), through the Anointed-One(Truth/Word/Spirit) is conciliating us to the himself and to Him we are being conciliated. This is the purpose of the Savior bringing mankind to True Life/Immortality. The dying seed(mankind) is being planted(generated/begotten) in the living seed(the new creation), the Anointed-One, by the Husband-Man(Father), through His death, burial and resurrection, He is being planted(begotten/generated) in mankind, bringing mankind out of death and into Life. All of this will culminate on the last day when man will become the Image and Likeness of his Creator and the Almighty-One will be everything and in everyone. Thus we are then born out of dead bodies. Jn. 3:5,8; 2 Cor. 5:18; 12:31-33; 1 Cor. 15:42-49; 20-28. Psalm 117; 2 Tim. 2:16,17; 3:16,17

 

[gsmonte]

Neither born again nor born from above, we are being, present tense, begotten, or, generated from above by the Spirit(Truth/Word). The Divine(God), through the Anointed-One(Truth/Word/Spirit) is conciliating us to the himself and to Him we are being conciliated. This is the purpose of the Savior bringing mankind to True Life/Immortality. The dying seed(mankind) is being planted(generated/begotten) in the living seed(the new creation), the Anointed-One, by the Husband-Man(Father), through His death, burial and resurrection, He is being planted(begotten/generated) in mankind, bringing mankind out of death and into Life. All of this will culminate on the last day when man will become the Image and Likeness of his Creator and the Almighty-One will be everything and in everyone. Thus we are then born out of dead bodies. Jn. 3:5,8; 2 Cor. 5:18; 12:31-33; 1 Cor. 15:42-49; 20-28. Psalm 117; 2 Tim. 2:16,17; 3:16,17

Correction, Jn. 12:31-33, not 2 Cor.