I now will explain in laymen [human] terms what does the term “Born of GOD” means. But a person not “Born of GOD” still Cannot know what it means

[Jonathan_Gale]

Oh aren’t you The Biblical Scholar.

Then what say you of “The Parakletos”?

I'm not professing to be wise in anyway, just stating a simple principle about maybe trying to put our feet in God's shoes and seeing things from His perspective. In fact, one purpose of God's incarnation as a man who took on flesh and dwelt among us was to make God relatable to us, because only through Jesus the Son can we know God the Father. He was not a graven image made out of man's imagination, but the one and only living image of God. In all other religions and phylosophies, it's always about man's search for God, and their gurus and prophets only claim to know about God. Only in Christianity does God come to man and seach for His lost sheep.

 

[PloughBoy]

I'm not professing to be wise in anyway, just stating a simple principle about maybe trying to put our feet in God's shoes and seeing things from His perspective. In fact, one purpose of God's incarnation as a man who took on flesh and dwelt among us was to make God relatable to us, because only through Jesus the Son can we know God the Father. He was not a graven image made out of man's imagination, but the one and only living image of God. In all other religions and phylosophies, it's always about man's search for God, and their gurus and prophets only claim to know about God. Only in Christianity does God come to man and seach for His lost sheep.

That what is wrong with everyone!

Satan has so indoctrinated people with a “word” called “Principles”. All these cults are running rapid like a rapid dog!

Masons got Christian’s principles, All These Greek God And Goddesses worshippers claim They Got Christian’s Principals, Word of Faith and all these other claim they got Christian’s principles, what ever that is!

They need to Drop That principles stuff and pick up and practice “Godly ways! And Walk in “Sanctification And Holiness” and “Godly Fear”

These people have lost their minds.“Principles”!


That devil he is some thing else!

Pulling a “3 Card Monte”

Sound just like my wife! “Christian Principles”!

I been wanted to say something so bad but her pastor Is one of those Greek Zeus worshippers, in The name of Jesus.

They belong to “The Divine Nine”. Nine Greek GODs who got “Christian Principles”
They are lawyers , Judges, and Politicians, Beyoncé, Oprah, they ain’t going lock me up!
Talking about their “Christian’s” Principle s, candle burning black robe secret Society. Witches blood drinking, orgies Togas. Wearing “Christian Principles” They can speak Greek alright.

“Got Their chest all stuck out “Christian Principles”
I can see them now well Lord, we got “Christian Principles”.

They think they are going to get away with that terminology!

Sorry but the trigger word was “Principles”

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

That what is wrong with everyone!

Satan has so indoctrinated people with a “word” called “Principles”. All these cults are running rapid like a rapid dog!

Masons got Christian’s principles, All These Greek God And Goddesses worshippers claim They Got Christian’s Principals, Word of Faith and all these other claim they got Christian’s principles, what ever that is!

They need to Drop That principles stuff and pick up and practice “Godly ways! And Walk in “Sanctification And Holiness” and “Godly Fear”

These people have lost their minds.“Principles”!


That devil he is some thing else!

Pulling a “3 Card Monte”

Sound just like my wife! “Christian Principles”!

I been wanted to say something so bad but her pastor Is one of those Greek Zeus worshippers, in The name of Jesus.

They belong to “The Divine Nine”. Nine Greek GODs who got “Christian Principles”
They are lawyers , Judges, and Politicians, Beyoncé, Oprah, they ain’t going lock me up!
Talking about their “Christian’s” Principle s, candle burning black robe secret Society. Witches blood drinking, orgies Togas. Wearing “Christian Principles” They can speak Greek alright.

“Got Their chest all stuck out “Christian Principles”
I can see them now well Lord, we got “Christian Principles”.

They think they are going to get away with that terminology!

Sorry but the trigger word was “Principles”

Alright, I admit that I was triggered by the word "agender" or something like that, I was kind of riled up and didn't bother to read the rest of the post. However, the stance on this issue is a dividing line that separates a church from a cult. If they've got some shortcomings or weaknesses in their teaching which you don't like, maybe a rock concert as the worship session and then a TED Talk as the sermon of the week, that can be forgiven, it's still acceptable to me, I appreciate their effort, and I would never rant like you did at them with such an insolent attitude; that might be spiritual junk food, but it's still better than nothing. However, if they accomodate or just tolerate this genderism ideology that Satan has been pushing through this demonic Biden administration, then it's over, they're definitely wolves in sheep's clothing. It's not even junk food, but poison. I have a very strong moral conviction on this issue.

 

[Garee]

And I will not be move, onThis day or The Day I stand Before “The GOD ALMIGHTY”!

I would offer. .

Never say never.

How does that stand up compared to a member as the bride of Christ Timothy a chaste virgin bride espoused to the one husband (Christ) in the new heavens and earth . . when receive our new incorruptible new bodies.

Don't worry it will not change a person sexual orientation in these earthen bodies of death

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

 

[PloughBoy]

I would offer. .

Never say never.

How does that stand up compared to a member as the bride of Christ Timothy a chaste virgin bride espoused to the one husband (Christ) in the new heavens and earth . . when receive our new incorruptible new bodies.

Don't worry it will not change a person sexual orientation in these earthen bodies of death

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

You could never understand the “Biblical Language” on your best day.

I might be wrong, but I am willing to believe when you was young, your days when you was strong and vibrant . And fresh. You wasted it. Then old age set in, you became a late bloomer and wanted to engage into spiritual warfare, but was to old to go to “Boot Camp” and now you want to be a “5 Star General” and never had the chance to engage in hand to hand combat with The “Demonic host” and received wounds from The Firey darts and battle scars From The Sharp “Talons” that claws into your very Soul where only “The Balm of Gilead” will have to be poured.
while all that was happening, they knock your “Helmet clean off your head in The Dark!

Then and only then can the saying be made;

“The Young men is For War and when they become old, those old are for counsel”

“For They Have held up The Blood Stain Banner”

And They have Spiritual Wounds from their youth, The Marks for standing For “The Christ of GOD”

And Battle Songs on Their “Heart, Soul,and Minds” and they know the songs by heart!

“I am The Battlefield for My lord, and I promise him, I would serve Him, until I Die”

“We are Soldiers in His Army”

“I been Wounded scarred, abused, forsaken, left half dead, but I kept on moving, I cried, I crawled, I bleed but I kept on moving, I am a Soldier in His Army”

A young man in His Army” fighting . “demons and Devils” we are the only ones they fear!

“I Rather Have you “Cold or Hot””

“REMEMBER thy Creator in The Days of Thy Young”

“A good soldier does not entangle himself with The Affairs of This Life”

You learn Warfare in your youth and Then you become a Commander in your old age”

You do not play with the devil in your youth, then, in your old age Command season “Veterans”.
Who have been in The Heat of The Battle, and got his Hiney whip multiple times by The Enemy and his “Commander”!

Hello
If That Devil have never Grab your soul, you don’t know he is real! And he will not cut you loose until “GOD” say: he got The message you can cut him loose now.

That devil will make a “True Believer” out of you!


If you think the Holy Ghost is something, Let That Devil Grab your Soul, with Those “Talons”!

That Rebuke , it ain’t going to Compute

You going to “Nineveh”! When he cut you loose. And you will not need a map!


Now I know you might be saying what this got to do with everything.

My reply:
“Everything”




“

 

[gsmonte]

Yeah, "enter" - to be "born". However, the key work is not enter, but "how", which indicates attempt of work based salvation. This is essentially the same question that the rich young ruler asked - how can I have eternal life? The point is still the same - no human effort can do that. Only by the Holy Spirit can we come alive and enter into God's kingdom.

Yes, the key work is “how”. This work is being done by the Father(Spirit) in the Son creating us in His Image. In order for this creation taking place, which is the baptism(planting of the incorruptible seed) of the Spirit( Son) of the Holy-One(Father), be binding for us to be in the life-giving Spirit, Yahusha HaMashiach, who is the Divine Kingdom(Jn. 3:3,5,8,16; 1 Cor. 15:45-49). The death, burial and resurrection of the Anointed-One accomplished this “entering”, which is passive, requires no work on our part(Jn. 5:17; 24-30; 6:32, 44,65; 14:20; 15:1). We all entered dead, a dying seed at the time of His crucifixion(Jn. 12:32), and we are living to God through His resurrection power seating us in the heavenly places in the Anointed Savior(Col. 2:8-15; 3:1; Eph. 4-7). The Holy Spirit, the many mention, is the Father and Son(1 Jn. 1:9; 2:22). Psalm 117; 2 Tim. 2:15,16; 3:16,17

 

[Garee]

You could never understand the “Biblical Language” on your best day.

Is that not what brother in Christ do help each other.?

Was Timothy espoused by Paul a surrogate mother who suffered in pains of birth to one husband Christ as the chaste virgin bride of Christ the church. What's your understanding can you break it down

 

[PloughBoy]

Is that not what brother in Christ do help each other.?

Was Timothy espoused by Paul a surrogate mother who suffered in pains of birth to one husband Christ as the chaste virgin bride of Christ the church. What's your understanding can you break it down

Yea, they did not have a “Bible” and for sure there was No New Tesatment Writings the Letter to Timothy was not written to about A D 60-64.
Like they had instructions how to live a life in “The Way” as A “Nazarene”.

There was no bible no instructions how To live as a “Nazarene”!
And the Carrier Sure was not a “Pony Express” Rider of “”FedEx” or Email. Let let alone a “ Guttenberg“.


So let us not go there.

Just let us just listen to what one another have to say. Then walk like “The Bereans” and do a full preliminary type investigation.

We all are not anthoritarians in such matters.

But surely we must not try to feed others with regurgitation, plagiarism from others.

So say; “The Book”.

 

[PloughBoy]

Is that not what brother in Christ do help each other.?

Was Timothy espoused by Paul a surrogate mother who suffered in pains of birth to one husband Christ as the chaste virgin bride of Christ the church. What's your understanding can you break it down

May I ask? What does that has to do with “ETERNAL LIFE”?

That is a total useless unproductive waste of time to even approach it!

Absolutely nothing concerning The Edification of “The Manifestation of The Glory of GOD”.


We must get on board , it is late into the day. And our time is near. And our conversation should be about those things in the “Eternals”! Once we enter, our conversation will not be new, it will be a language we are familiar with.

I try Awfully hard to take many there, but how unruly like an Ox not Accustomed to the yoke.

“1Therefore, if you have been raised with Christ, keep seekingthe things that are above, whereChrist is, seated at the right handof God. 2[a]Set your minds on the things that are above, not on the things that are on earth. 3For you have died, and your life is hiddenwith Christ in God. 4When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, thenyou also will be revealed with Him in glory.”

PS. Not that you will be going to glory!

For you, and Christ are “The Glory”!

You will appear “in GLORY” You in Glory! The place is not glory.

We are. “THE GLORY” of GOD.


Y’all are Hard a hard people.

 

[PloughBoy]

It has been sometimes in my life, I went to another place, and taken others with me, far on the other side of “The Far Horizons”

There has been times my wife, have told me, I have watch you Leave This place, you are not Here, you have left, gone while standing Still!

And There have been Times, [ I going to have you Locked up]


Now my mother:

With a wild look: [“Who are you?].
My reply: “Mama I Don’t know.

And we laugh.

And “The Prejudice Women” women have said: I do not know your Name But when you leave from Here, I going with you!

From Pennsylvania to Oklahoma, Mississippi to Texas, New Mexico, To California.

If I Get in That Zone, about “GLORY” look out! From Walmart to The Apache Reservation to The Navajo Indians clear into the comanches.
Hispanics, Mexican and The Spaniards in the southern parts of “New Mexico”! Red heads, Blonds, brunettes, Dutch, And The “Irish”in Wisconsin clear up into the country of The Red Men in “ Nebraska“

Who knew That a blackman from Detroit would travel so far and proclaim in the common areas, what a “Child of The Living GOD” would Talk like and The Things about GOD he would say. “Theologically Sound”.

Many have said: You cannot be from “Detroit” and Talk like you that!

And I let it be Known I am not a “Christian” but I am A “Child of THE LIVING GOD”

AND I read My Book from Cover to Cover!


We ain’t never Heard no one Talk like you about “GOD” young children to Old People! Men women and Children mostly “Open Air”!
I would run into people on vacations from different countries. Right here in These “United States” They would come up to me! And Tell Me, you Are my Brother in Christ and I Love you, ! strangers with tears in their eyes! The True “Koinonia”! Nothing fake about it, when That Holy Oil pours upon our heads at The same Time. Pouring Down from “GOD’s Throne”!

“when I feel The SPIRIT MOVING IN ME I would BEGIN TO PRAY I BEGIN TO SING! And they would gather. Walmart, Fuel centers, some times I would walk into a strange church on a Sunday morning, the only Black person there
It might be “Pentecostal” Southern Baptist, Blue Grass Baptist, Holy Roller, Primitive Baptist” “different types of Methodist churches. and They are sure to say this:

“would you say something”

I walk in there like own the place! And when I left everybody knew me!

You know I can sing all those backwood hymns. “Irish”, Gaelic, country western style, hillbilly, blue grass, and “One and Two and Three little Indians”, And she will be coming around The Mountain”

And I know y’all don’t believe me.

And none of This was plan.
No organization, no tithes, no offerings for over 20 years this was done.

And that is only half The Theological Evangelistic Story of a witness of Jesus Christ.

“And you Shall be My “witness”

8But ye shall receive power, when the Holy Spirit is come upon you: and ye shall be my witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea and Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

 

[Garee]

May I ask? What does that has to do with “ETERNAL LIFE”?

That is a total useless unproductive waste of time to even approach it!

Absolutely nothing concerning The Edification of “The Manifestation of The Glory of GOD”.


We must get on board , it is late into the day. And our time is near. And our conversation should be about those things in the “Eternals”! Once we enter, our conversation will not be new, it will be a language we are familiar with.

I try Awfully hard to take many there, but how unruly like an Ox not Accustomed to the yoke.

“1Therefore, if you have been raised with Christ, keep seekingthe things that are above, whereChrist is, seated at the right handof God. 2[a]Set your minds on the things that are above, not on the things that are on earth. 3For you have died, and your life is hiddenwith Christ in God. 4When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, thenyou also will be revealed with Him in glory.”

PS. Not that you will be going to glory!

For you, and Christ are “The Glory”!

You will appear “in GLORY” You in Glory! The place is not glory.

We are. “THE GLORY” of GOD.


Y’all are Hard a hard people.

Glory has to do with what kind of body the bride of Christ the church will have it not a salavtion issue as necressary to know before a person is saved but more of the end of the matter .Again what we will be is not what we are .

The glory of God is hidden it will be revealed when we recieve our new bodies

 

[Garee]

I had enough of these “Born again” christians

I am different, BIG TIME!

I “M “BORN OF GOD”. My Citizenship is in HEAVEN!

I do not belong Down here with these Folks!

I do not fit! With the born again people down here.

Why change the way the bible defines a person must be born again or born of God same thing. ?

A changed life does not equal a person has been born again. An atheist can stop chasing after woman and stop his drunken lifestyle. AAA is filled with atheist that do not trust the living word of God born again, incorruptible seed

Jesus clearly says a person must be born again of the in corruptible seed that revels the mind of Christ or born from above (same thing).

The loving commandment is to marvel not why destroy the word born again

John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

1 Peter 1:23Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

1 Corinthians 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ. . . . . (as it is written the incorruptible seed

 

[PloughBoy]

Why change the way the bible defines a person must be born again or born of God same thing. ?

A changed life does not equal a person has been born again. An atheist can stop chasing after woman and stop his drunken lifestyle. AAA is filled with atheist that do not trust the living word of God born again, incorruptible seed

Jesus clearly says a person must be born again of the in corruptible seed that revels the mind of Christ or born from above (same thing).

The loving commandment is to marvel not why destroy the word born again

John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

1 Peter 1:23Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

1 Corinthians 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ. . . . . (as it is written the incorruptible seed

I going to say this again: you show you your Defiance concerning The “WORD of GOD” spoke.
“JESUS Said: “You must be “Born from Above”

some translations says: “you must be “Born again”.

Who do you believe, “Born again” or the term; “Born From Above”?

Or are you a compromiser or a corrector of God!

And Ruled, they both mean the same!

Your call, Kemosabe.

“choose you This Day The God whom you will serve”

“If God be God serve Him”. You choose this day. For it will be “Recorded in Heaven” and the Decision you choose will raise up judge you at that. No trial, judgment by The “WORD OF GOD”

And The FATHER, ain’t “JESUS”

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Why change the way the bible defines a person must be born again or born of God same thing. ?

Because this term is bastardized, there're too many people who exalt themselves as "born-again Christians", which causes confusion and brings a bad reputation to this term. Both are just analogies, the only true spiritual birth is being baptized by the Holy Spirit.

 

[PloughBoy]

Glory has to do with what kind of body the bride of Christ the church will have it not a salavtion issue as necressary to know before a person is saved but more of the end of the matter .Again what we will be is not what we are .

The glory of God is hidden it will be revealed when we recieve our new bodies

You are so full of errors, and some of us knows “Error begets more errors” and The only way is To “Repent” turn around completely and go back the way you came. No Short cuts, and once you gotten back, you must take the other “Path”. Where the Fork is at The Road.

There are no short cuts, back to the right Path”.
That is why it is wise to :

“REMEMBER THY CREATOR IN the days of Thy YOUTH”

You have plenty of time to stumble and fall and be corrected and turn around and go back, you still have The Strength and youth to make The Journey back and have The Strenght to Run and not get weary and while you are walking back, while you are musing, you will not “Faint”, while thinking how foolish you were, and tracking back is not in vain.

 

[Garee]

You are so full of errors, and some of us knows “Error begets more errors” and The only way is To “Repent” turn around completely and go back the way you came. No Short cuts, and once you gotten back, you must take the other “Path”. Where the Fork is at The Road.

There are no short cuts, back to the right Path”.
That is why it is wise to :

“REMEMBER THY CREATOR IN the days of Thy YOUTH”

You have plenty of time to stumble and fall and be corrected and turn around and go back, you still have The Strength and youth to make The Journey back and have The Strenght to Run and not get weary and while you are walking back, while you are musing, you will not “Faint”, while thinking how foolish you were, and tracking back is not in vain.

I am aware of error begets more. Truth build on truth. His word is a lamp unto out feet a light unto or path .

I am also aware the God our faithful Creatorr . . "Let there be" and its testimony "it was good"God working in us does all the work of salvation to include repenting , If God does not first work turning us " Let there be" then we cannot repent and turn towards him .(the testimony )

What are there erros you speak of ?.Not agreeing with your opions .We all have one . Again which erros?

 

[Garee]

Who do you believe, “Born again” or the term; “Born From Above”?

Born again is from above .

There is no choice.

Simply you offering a wile of the devil . What God call one Satan multplies. What God call many Satan the counterfiter calls one

 

[PloughBoy]

Born again is from above .

There is no choice.

Simply you offering a wile of the devil . What God call one Satan multplies. What God call many Satan the counterfiter calls one

Born again is from above .

The Very “Word of GOD does not say that! You say that and you did not get it From “The Very “”Words That GOD Spoke!

So either your are Liar or he Is A Liar And HIS words that He Spoke Cannot be “TRUSTED”

Now which one is a Liar! Or a believer of lies, You or Him!

You both cannot right!


There is only “One Truth”.

 

[PloughBoy]

Just like the world, a man can be woman, a girl can be a boy!
Woman can be man, or They can be both!

They can be born again. Today they are boy tomorrow they have become girl on the inside, they been born again.

I ain’t going for it, it is either a Yes of No!

There is either a right or wrong!

“GOD is “ABSOLUTE”!

The reason why many do not know , because every body is born again! And only a @Few” has Been “Born from Above”. Has Had A “Heavenly Brith”

All these people been born twice down here in earth!

One day they ware not religious then day 2 they decide to change there ways.

Now they have been born again, and they have decided to go another way. so now they are religious now and believe in Jesus, now that makes them born again so since they believe in Jesus they believe now they have the holy spirit. So since they believe that’s means they have the Holy Spirit. Now that is what they believe.

And have entered a new life on planet earth!

And they are born again. It Makes plenty of sense to them.

But all of That does not make them “Born of GOD” Born from ABOVE” a Real Heavenly BIRTH! Beyond Planet Earth!

Can it be explain of Course not that is a Real “MIRACLE”!

Something that is impossible to be done!

To be “Born from Above” is A Miracle.

To be born again is not, to be born is not a miracle it is the way of humanity it is normal, “Born From Above” is not normal.

 

[Garee]

Born again is from above .

The Very “Word of GOD does not say that! You say that and you did not get it From “The Very “”Words That GOD Spoke!

So either your are Liar or he Is A Liar And HIS words that He Spoke Cannot be “TRUSTED”

Now which one is a Liar! Or a believer of lies, You or Him!

You both cannot right!


There is only “One Truth”.

Its exactly what it says. A man must be born again from God above born of the incorruptible seed not earthly from below inspired of the devil

James 3:15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.

If not born again from above then from where?

John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

John 3:31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all