I now will explain in laymen [human] terms what does the term “Born of GOD” means. But a person not “Born of GOD” still Cannot know what it means

[GodB4Us]

Although I will explain what it means. BUT, one that is not “Born of GOD” still “Cannot” [have the Ability] to this understanding what I am saying, but yet understand what I am saying. that you cannot understand what I am saying.

Not every saved believer is going to understand everything all at once .....

1 Corinthians 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

....or even when they want to understand.... for why we are exhorted to ask for wisdom from the Lord.

James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

A person can be a “Christian” and Not “Born of GOD”!

A person can be “Born of GOD” and be a “Christian”.

I am not going Into great details. But These Statements are True and “Theologically Sound”.

There is a falsehood out there that can apply your statements in the Pentecostal & Charismatic circles to promote seeking to receive the Holy Spirit by a sign as if being born of God has to be felt or seen by the seeker and in these experiences, testimonies will arise of participants losing self control and falling in receiving such signs, but yet God is not the author of confusion for why it is not of Him at all..

Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Proverbs 25:26 A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring.
27 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory.
28 He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.

1 Corinthians 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Hebrews 11:1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.

Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith....
...26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

I am setting The Pace to explain, What “Born of GOD” means, I WILL refrain from using the Translated term which is Not “Theologically” sound, “born again“. But a Translated replacement word term FOR “BORN FROM ABOVE”

Now I am only doing this for The ones who do not know what The Biblical term actually means.
“Born Of GOD” That you may be “Sound” and Solid.


But to those who have their own interpretations, you may keep them. This is not meant for you. Each man and women to its own.
And if you do not like, my “Explanation” fine, throw it in the Garbage and keep it moving and Shake The very “Dust off your Feet”!

Part 1. “The Introduction Post.

Be on guard against those who take what you teach here as saying that believer is not saved or those believers in that church are not born from above.

Nowhere in the N.T. does it allow us to judge someone as not saved or not a brother unless they never had believed in Him in the first place & still don't. John 3:18

Indeed Paul set the example clearly about those who were falling away from the faith even in his day as noted in verse 7 in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-15 as he continues to talk about them in the next chapter for us to rely on the Lord in touching us to help us obey His commandment to withdraw, but not to treat them as the enemy, but admonish them as brothers still.

2 Thessalonians 3:1Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:
2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.
3 But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.
4 And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you.
5 And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.
6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;

14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

We can judge one another in correcting one another when those who profess Him are not abiding in Him as His disciple, but to judge that one is not born of God is going beyond what we are called to do, in serving the Lord to recover the lost or those that have gone astray.

1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

So Paul acknowledges that born from above believers can go astray for why God has to peradventure thru us to recover those from the snare of the devil.

 

[GodB4Us]

A few verses define this as someone who...

1Jn 3:9; No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jn 5:18; We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him.

So I suppose that's one way to know if you are born of God.

Not really. The apostle John did write this.

1 John 2:1My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

So what is John talking about here if no one born of God can sin? With His wisdom we can see that John is addressing believers that believe sin ceases to be sin when they do it. That is why he began addressing the falsehood by how we walk.

1 John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

There were professing believers that believed sin ceased to be sin for why they are walking in darkness and the apostle John was correcting this falsehood from spreading among the believers.

The references you are using is for believers to know who is abiding in Him as His disciples and who is not so they do not follow after them. It reads like John is judging them as not saved, but when he has verses for believers to go confess their sins to the Lord, then obviously, every verse in the Book of 1 John has to be weighed accordingly in discerning with His wisdom what he is actually meaning to say to align them all together to get to the truth in His words.

Nowhere in the N.T. does it allow us to judge someone as not born of God or not a brother unless they never had believed in Him in the first place & still don't. John 3:18

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Indeed Paul set the example clearly about those who were falling away from the faith even in his day as noted in verse 7 in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-15 as he continues to talk about them in the next chapter for us to rely on the Lord in touching us to help us obey His commandment to withdraw, but not to treat them as the enemy, but admonish them as brothers still.

2 Thessalonians 3:1Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:
2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.
3 But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.
4 And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you.
5 And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.
6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;

14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

We can judge one another in correcting one another when those who profess Him are not abiding in Him as His disciple, but to judge that one is not born of God is going beyond what we are called to do, in serving the Lord to recover the lost or those that have gone astray.

1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

So Paul acknowledges that born from above believers can go astray for why God has to peradventure to recover some of those from the snare of the devil before the Bridegroom comes, otherwise, they will be left behind as any work of iniquity on that foundation that defiles the temple of God will be burned off in that day but the spirit is saved because that foundation and that seal of adoption remains.

1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

 

[PloughBoy]

Not every saved believer is going to understand everything all at once .....

1 Corinthians 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

....or even when they want to understand.... for why we are exhorted to ask for wisdom from the Lord.

James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

There is a falsehood out there that can apply your statements in the Pentecostal & Charismatic circles to promote seeking to receive the Holy Spirit by a sign as if being born of God has to be felt or seen by the seeker and in these experiences, testimonies will arise of participants losing self control and falling in receiving such signs, but yet God is not the author of confusion for why it is not of Him at all..

Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Proverbs 25:26 A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring.
27 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory.
28 He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.

1 Corinthians 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Hebrews 11:1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.

Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith....
...26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.


Be on guard against those who take what you teach here as saying that believer is not saved or those believers in that church are not born from above.

Nowhere in the N.T. does it allow us to judge someone as not saved or not a brother unless they never had believed in Him in the first place & still don't. John 3:18

Indeed Paul set the example clearly about those who were falling away from the faith even in his day as noted in verse 7 in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-15 as he continues to talk about them in the next chapter for us to rely on the Lord in touching us to help us obey His commandment to withdraw, but not to treat them as the enemy, but admonish them as brothers still.

2 Thessalonians 3:1Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:
2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.
3 But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.
4 And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you.
5 And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.
6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;

14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

We can judge one another in correcting one another when those who profess Him are not abiding in Him as His disciple, but to judge that one is not born of God is going beyond what we are called to do, in serving the Lord to recover the lost or those that have gone astray.

1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

So Paul acknowledges that born from above believers can go astray for why God has to peradventure thru us to recover those from the snare of the devil.

One thing for sure when a Child of “The LIVING GOD” has been “Born”. That Child of GOD knows It! becaause HIS Daddy Who is GOD going to Let him know it! Who he is!

Because He is “GOD”! He is going to Talk to HIS Child!

Yes Sir!

No Guessing about it!

 

[Garee]

This is what you said; in the beginning of this post:


“I would try to keep it to no more than four chapters or what some call books.The Bible is the book of law or the book of prophecy . Books plural has its own doctrine. 66 chapters written by 15 scribes.”

Warning 5 Alarm Fire!

“Gumbo soup”
You absolutely have no idea what you are Talking about “Sir”You didn’t even copy that From a “Dime Store Comic Book Rack”

Somebody have dealt you a bad hand. I am so sorry for you, really I am.

May The LORD continue to have Mercy on all of us.

You have a nice day ok.

I can see you are not fond of rightly dividing the word of God when it comes to the pomise of the bride of Christ the church New creature sons of God made up of men and woman .

Chapters in the Bible are not called books . That is a man made tradition.

The Bible is one book wrote by one author

In that way men will not be able add or substract from the whole book and pretrnd the comandment is not there . Many remove the whole chpater of Revelation and add thier own as oral tradition of mankind.

Destroying the whole testimony of God



Revealation 22: 18 -20For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Adding to the revelation chapter is adding to the whole book not books .

Books plural have thier own doctrine .

 

[Garee]

NASB 1977
For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the first-born among many brethren”

“The WORD BECAME FLESH and WALKED AMONG US”

In The Begininng was The Word and The WORD was with GOD and [This very same Word] THE WORD was GOD!

“The Triune GOD”

That Cannot Be Comprehended by. A”FINITE MIND”

That He might be the first-born among many brethren” Rather than .Not that might be the first-born among many father as multple Creators .

Call no man on earth father one is our adoptting father in heaven

God is not man (creation) its a mystery revealed by the living word of God in parables

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Mark 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

 

[PloughBoy]

I can see you are not fond of rightly dividing the word of God when it comes to the pomise of the bride of Christ the church New creature sons of God made up of men and woman .

Chapters in the Bible are not called books . That is a man made tradition.

The Bible is one book wrote by one author

In that way men will not be able add or substract from the whole book and pretrnd the comandment is not there . Many remove the whole chpater of Revelation and add thier own as oral tradition of mankind.

Destroying the whole testimony of God



Revealation 22: 18 -20For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Adding to the revelation chapter is adding to the whole book not books .

Books plural have thier own doctrine .

Well I do not know what or how they instructed you back in the late and early 1970’s. college s, Universities and Seminaries, you must Most likely had to Take A “Elective” and A “Bible Introduction 101 Class, before they would dare give you “Calcilus”!

I don’t know where you from, because here in these “USA”. They will not Dare Give you A Bible Class in Any kind of religious studies, when you cannot spell Bible, let alone know how to open one up!
You have to take electives and Bible introduction 101

You need be to quiet!

Come on here act like you know something,

Been out there on the backyard playing church after Sunday school that was taught by “Daisy Mae” who graduated from 6 grade.

And you learn a quote from a “Sunday School Card”

“Study to show thyself approved Unto GOD rightly divide the Word of truth”

King James Bible
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

And some how you thought you are to show us!

But you are to show GOD.

I am being kind to you. Showing Benevolence.

You must be from up north in “Wisconsin” and I am not taking about Cow Coutry, sound like you are Mid to northeast.

 

[Garee]

Well I do not know what or how they instructed you back in the late and early 1970’s. college s, Universities and Seminaries, you must Most likely had to Take A “Elective” and A “Bible Introduction 101 Class, before they would dare give you “Calcilus”!

I don’t know where you from, because here in these “USA”. They will not Dare Give you A Bible Class in Any kind of religious studies, when you cannot spell Bible, let alone know how to open one up!
You have to take electives and Bible introduction 101

You need be to quiet!

Come on here act like you know something,

Been out there on the backyard playing church after Sunday school that was taught by “Daisy Mae” who graduated from 6 grade.

And you learn a quote from a “Sunday School Card”

“Study to show thyself approved Unto GOD rightly divide the Word of truth”

King James Bible
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

And some how you thought you are to show us!

But you are to show GOD.

I am being kind to you. Showing Benevolence.

You must be from up north in “Wisconsin” and I am not taking about Cow Coutry, sound like you are Mid to northeast.

I am ofering my private intertation just as you .somthings we see a little firently

Lol I am from Milwaukee, Wisconsin . What's the numbers of the Lottery .

No cows here they removed to stock yards in the 60’s. Once in a while a deer of a fox makes it down the river. Last year a family of wild Tukey’s visited downtown .

I certainly would not win in any Spelling Bee


You seem to have a fear of homosexuality its not my idea either of a relation that could please God .


The church is clearly the bride of Chris. Not sure all colleges teach "agender" as the new creatures in Christ . As sons of God believers not knowing what we shall be "agender" no one has received their new bodies but identified as the wife or bride of Christ.


We do know there whern we recieve the propmise of our bodyies that will not age as in dying or die as incorupotible there will be no procreating.

Galaitians 4: 27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

No commandment to be fruitful and multiply .

Note . . . (PURPLE) my offering as a personal understanding.

3:26-29 For in Christ Jesus (our husband) you are all sons of God (men and woman mankind ) through faith. For all of you (men and woman) who were baptized into Christ(our husband) have clothed yourselves with Christ. (our husband) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female—for all of you are one in Christ Jesus.(our husband) And if you belong to Christ (our husband), then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to the promise

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

I am ofering my private intertation just as you .somthings we see a little firently

Lol I am from Milwaukee, Wisconsin . What's the numbers of the Lottery .

No cows here they removed to stock yards in the 60’s. Once in a while a deer of a fox makes it down the river. Last year a family of wild Tukey’s visited downtown .

I certainly would not win in any Spelling Bee


You seem to have a fear of homosexuality its not my idea either of a relation that could please God .


The church is clearly the bride of Chris. Not sure all colleges teach "agender" as the new creatures in Christ . As sons of God believers not knowing what we shall be "agender" no one has received their new bodies but identified as the wife or bride of Christ.


We do know there whern we recieve the propmise of our bodyies that will not age as in dying or die as incorupotible there will be no procreating.

Galaitians 4: 27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

No commandment to be fruitful and multiply .

Note . . . (PURPLE) my offering as a personal understanding.

3:26-29 For in Christ Jesus (our husband) you are all sons of God (men and woman mankind ) through faith. For all of you (men and woman) who were baptized into Christ(our husband) have clothed yourselves with Christ. (our husband) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female—for all of you are one in Christ Jesus.(our husband) And if you belong to Christ (our husband), then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to the promise

Stay away from that genderism non-sense, that’s pure evil from hell with zero redeeming quality. The church is addressed as the wife of Christ just as much as Israel was addressed as the wife of God in the OT, that was a poetic expression to demonstrate the intimate relationship between God and his people in layman’s terms, the only difference is that the wife is no longer an exclusive privilege for Israel, but accessible to all mankind through Christ. In his response to the sadduccees about marriage in heaven, he said that there will be no more marrying or giving into marriage among one another, but instead, all are one married to Christ.

 

[GodB4Us]

One thing for sure when a Child of “The LIVING GOD” has been “Born”. That Child of GOD knows It! becaause HIS Daddy Who is GOD going to Let him know it! Who he is!

Because He is “GOD”! He is going to Talk to HIS Child!

Yes Sir!

No Guessing about it!

Sometimes a child of God can go astray by a lie like by that false science, the evolution theory, and for that reason stop listening to that voice that is from God as well as believing in the Bible when their faith is overthrown.

2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

This is why former believers are still called to depart from iniquity in seeking His help and His wisdom to see the lies and the truth in His words so they can be led by Him to repent and thus be ready as a vessel unto honor to be received by Him when He comes as the Bridegroom at the rapture event.

If they do not repent, then they will be left behind for why they are called vessels unto dishonor, but still in His House, to be resurrected after the great tribulation as vessels of wood & earth to serve the King of kings on earth..

They may not follow Him now but a stranger's voice, but they are still His sheep and so I agree with you in part but only that they will hear His voice literally as the King of kings to follow Him on earth after the great tribulation.

As it is, former believers will know their error when they die and their spirits are with the Lord in Heaven, but again, they will be resurrected after the great tribulation to follow His voice as the King of kings on earth as His people.

2 Corinthians 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

 

[PloughBoy]

Stay away from that genderism non-sense, that’s pure evil from hell with zero redeeming quality. The church is addressed as the wife of Christ just as much as Israel was addressed as the wife of God in the OT, that was a poetic expression to demonstrate the intimate relationship between God and his people in layman’s terms, the only difference is that the wife is no longer an exclusive privilege for Israel, but accessible to all mankind through Christ. In his response to the sadduccees about marriage in heaven, he said that there will be no more marrying or giving into marriage among one another, but instead, all are one married to Christ.

You know you are reading a translation of a translation right.

And you do know what a language translation is right.

I can understand your concept. But can you understand my dilemma concerning your concept of a translation.

I been where you are at, over 40 years ago.

Our Growth continues to grown in Christ at “Pneumatic” speed. Moment by moment. The Growth is not at The rate of “light speed” it does not Stop at Birth it continues to Accelerate.

One does not come to a stop, or pauses. Unless that person was Persuaded or Decided to “Wallow in The Mud” or felt comfortable and dwelled in “Vanity Fair” or fell asleep in “Yonder Meadows”.

So what I’m I saying, one does not pause for another to catch up to level of one’s maturity, for in “Christ” we all continue at A Accelerated pace.

That is why one must not, take a short cut or climb in through a window thinking They Took a better Path.


Years ago, My “Sensei” “Okinawa” told me I was going to have to take it easy on other students.

My complaint to him was, what for, [this is Full Contact, Self Defense not sport Karate]. Killing kind.

His remark, you took the slow “Proper way” They wanted “Rank”. We Taught you “Technique” we Perfected it to you.

But they did set up special Testing for me. For Advance Ranking.

Then I Quit. “and Told them “GOD does not want me hurting people” I felt another power taking control.

“I said to myself” I got to get this power out of me!

More GOD, less Defense is The Only way.

I have not Stop!

Traveling at a High Rate of Speed! I am Heaven Bound!

Catch me, if you can.
I am not going backwards and I am not Pausing and waiting for another, meet me at “The Coronation Table” I will be sitting their waiting! “Speaking In Anthropomorphic” terms, I am.

“For The 1st. Shall be Last and the Last Shall be 1st.”

Meaning, we shall all get there at The Same Time.

With GOD, All Things Are Possible!

 

[Garee]

Stay away from that genderism non-sense, that’s pure evil from hell with zero redeeming quality. The church is addressed as the wife of Christ just as much as Israel was addressed as the wife of God in the OT, that was a poetic expression to demonstrate the intimate relationship between God and his people in layman’s terms, the only difference is that the wife is no longer an exclusive privilege for Israel, but accessible to all mankind through Christ. In his response to the sadduccees about marriage in heaven, he said that there will be no more marrying or giving into marriage among one another, but instead, all are one married to Christ.

I would agree as new creatures we are not what we will be . Stay away from that genderism non-sense. As new creatures “one body the bride no tools to multiply" “agender"

The church is addressed as the wife of Christ just the same as Israel was addressed as the wife of God in the OT, not layman’s terms.

But literally a new creation not rebuilt or reconditioned There will be one husband Christ in the new heavens and earth. The loving couple.

Christian as demonym the promised new name he would name his bride the church a more befitting name for the bride of all nations named after her founder and Husband Christ .

Isaiah 62;1-2 King James Version For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth. And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, (Christian demonym ) which the mouth of the Lord shall name.

. Remember sons of God mankind (male and female) not knowing what we will be when we receive or new bodies of a toltaly different kind .

Isaiah 62;5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.

Same bride as a chaste virgin .Having no other gods before our husband Christ .

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Same virgin bride the church or the spiritual house of God made up of many non gender lively stones

Revelation 12:1-2 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

Same chaste virgin bride

Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; (other gods ) for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he (her husband ) goeth. These were redeemed from among men(mankind) , being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb









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[Jonathan_Gale]

Christian as demonym the promised new name he would name his bride the church a more befitting name for the bride of all nations named after her founder and Husband Christ .

What I meant is that the eternal life in heaven is not some kind of a utopia that men could never build on earth. Every blessing we get to experience in our mortal life, including marriage, is just a sample or a demo of what is to come. In the end, the Holy Trinity will be merged into one glorious light in the New Jerusalem, and all His people will be walking in that light (Rev. 22:22-24).

 

[PloughBoy]

I would agree as new creatures we are not what we will be . Stay away from that genderism non-sense. As new creatures “one body the bride no tools to multiply" “agender"​

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The church is addressed as the wife of Christ just the same as Israel was addressed as the wife of God in the OT, not layman’s terms.​

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But literally a new creation not rebuilt or reconditioned There will be one husband Christ in the new heavens and earth. The loving couple.​

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Christian as demonym the promised new name he would name his bride the church a more befitting name for the bride of all nations named after her founder and Husband Christ .​

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Isaiah 62;1-2 King James Version For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth. And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, (Christian demonym ) which the mouth of the Lord shall name.​

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. Remember sons of God mankind (male and female) not knowing what we will be when we receive or new bodies of a toltaly different kind .​

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Isaiah 62;5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.​

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Same bride as a chaste virgin .Having no other gods before our husband Christ .​

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2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.​

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Same virgin bride the church or the spiritual house of God made up of many non gender lively stones​

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Revelation 12:1-2 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.​

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Same chaste virgin bride​

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Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; (other gods ) for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he (her husband ) goeth. These were redeemed from among men(mankind) , being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb​

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I going to say it again, The “Congegation” of GOD” “The SAINTS” of GOD who Are “THE Sons OF The The LIVING GOD” are Brothers of “Jesus The Christ of GOD”

His brothers
is not and will not be a “BRIDE” or is referred to as HIS Bride!
Whoso ever says That JESUS will be or is Husband To HIS own Brohers!

Is in 100% in Error!!

An Error begets Error!

And Errors donot Abide in The TRUTH!

“THE CONGREGATION OF GOD IS NOT JESUS CHRIST BRIDE!

And I stand My Ground and Will not be move!

But you can call Me Liar!

And I will not be move, onThis day or The Day I stand Before “The GOD ALMIGHTY”!

I Will still Contend for The TRUTH.


Anyone who proclaims That The Congregation of GOD, The Sons of GoD is The Bride of Christ have been deceived.

Simple as That.
You are in Error whether you believe it or not.


PS. For you dime store scholars !

The Hebrew and The Greek have a Masculine and a Feminine sense.

Hello!

Throw that catholic word out Church and put The Original back in, “Congregation” you will not have This problem, Error begetting errors!

 

[PloughBoy]

Y’all remind me a long time ago in Mexico, we where contractors.

Two colleagues got to Mexico before we did. And They told us not to drink the water. It would give us Diarrhoea,

Ok, the next day The lemonade man came, with a big block of Ice in the tub. Our colleagues said get some of that Lemonade it is Good!

My reply; Didn’t you say, Don’t drink The Water! They gave me a dumb look!“

They were sick had Diarrhoea everywhere!

But they considered themselves the smart ones.

Common sense!

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

I going to say it again, The “Congegation” of GOD” “The SAINTS” of GOD who Are “THE Sons OF The The LIVING GOD” are Brothers of “Jesus The Christ of GOD”

His brothers
is not and will not be a “BRIDE” or is referred to as HIS Bride!
Whoso ever says That JESUS will be or is Husband To HIS own Brohers!

Is in 100% in Error!!

An Error begets Error!

And Errors donot Abide in The TRUTH!

“THE CONGREGATION OF GOD IS NOT JESUS CHRIST BRIDE!

And I stand My Ground and Will not be move!

But you can call Me Liar!

And I will not be move, onThis day or The Day I stand Before “The GOD ALMIGHTY”!

I Will still Contend for The TRUTH.


Anyone who proclaims That The Congregation of GOD, The Sons of GoD is The Bride of Christ have been deceived.

Simple as That.
You are in Error whether you believe it or not.


PS. For you dime store scholars !

The Hebrew and The Greek have a Masculine and a Feminine sense.

Hello!

Throw that catholic word out Church and put The Original back in, “Congregation” you will not have This problem, Error begetting errors!

The way I see it, it's just an analogy to help us understand the intimate relationship we have with Christ, since marriaige was the first human institution ordained by God, and the love between husband and wife is the closest experience that resembles the love between Christ and His church. It shouldn't be taken too literally, you know. There's a saying, that liberals take your words literally but not seriously, conservatives take your words seriously but not literally. Don't be a liberal - or like many of Jesus's audience who took his words literally and felt offended in the gospel of John in many occasions, for the letter kills, while the spirit saves.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Y’all remind me a long time ago in Mexico, we where contractors.

Two colleagues got to Mexico before we did. And They told us not to drink the water. It would give us Diarrhoea,

Ok, the next day The lemonade man came, with a big block of Ice in the tub. Our colleagues said get some of that Lemonade it is Good!

My reply; Didn’t you say, Don’t drink The Water! They gave me a dumb look!“

They were sick had Diarrhoea everywhere!

But they considered themselves the smart ones.

Common sense!

Is this your own expeience or a snippet plucked from Don't Drink the Water by Brad Paisley ft. Blake Shelton

 

[PloughBoy]

Is this your own expeience or a snippet plucked from Don't Drink the Water by Brad Paisley ft. Blake Shelton

I do not par take in “plagiarism”!

Plus I do know The Rules in “Bibical Writing” and do not take to the likings of biblical ghost writers and can spot them a mile out.

What say of you?
I going to tell you now, you are out of your league, way out.

Now dwell on that.
Like “Sorgum Syrup”on a cool day with cold butter.

Kemosabe!

 

[PloughBoy]

The way I see it, it's just an analogy to help us understand the intimate relationship we have with Christ, since marriaige was the first human institution ordained by God, and the love between husband and wife is the closest experience that resembles the love between Christ and His church. It shouldn't be taken too literally, you know. There's a saying, that liberals take your words literally but not seriously, conservatives take your words seriously but not literally. Don't be a liberal - or like many of Jesus's audience who took his words literally and felt offended in the gospel of John in many occasions, for the letter kills, while the spirit saves.

So in other words GOD does not know how to present His Truth for the common man. He Needs a ghost writer, to make it clearer?

Really

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

So in other words GOD does not know how to present His Truth for the common man. He Needs a ghost writer, to make it clearer?

Really

He "needs" nothing. He CHOOSES and USES analogies to make it clearer in case WE don't understand. It's just simple logic, as Jesus told Nicodemus - how can you understand heavenly things if you can't understand earthly things?

 

[PloughBoy]

He "needs" nothing. He CHOOSES and USES analogies to make it clearer in case WE don't understand. It's just simple logic, as Jesus told Nicodemus - how can you understand heavenly things if you can't understand earthly things?

Oh aren’t you The Biblical Scholar.

Then what say you of “The Parakletos”?