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Can A Saved person Ever Become Unsaved?

Can A Saved person Ever Become Unsaved?


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I was hoping you would share the scripture that supports... taking communion on Sundays. Do you mean exclusively is my question

And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
Luke 22:19-20

Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
And they continued steadfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Acts 2:41-42
And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow;
and continued his speech until midnight.
Acts 20:7

For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come.

1Corinthians 11: 23-26

And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.
And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Matthew 26:26-28

My Fellowship only does the Eucharist communion on Sundays, exclusively. This is because of the tradition began by the Apostles in the beginning to meet on Sunday,
so as to separate and distinguish themselves from Jewish traditions of the Saturday sabbath.
But it is important to take communion every Sunday and to be reminded that our salvation is from what our Lord and God suffered horrendously at Calvary
for our atonement. It is never ever of our own works nor of any righteousness from ourselves.

For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
But God commends his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 5:6-8

Taking communion on Sundays helps to remind us of this; lest we forget.
 
They tell us in no uncertain terms that salvation is an act of God, not of man. Put another way, God is completely sovereign over who is and is not saved.


Romans 9:16-18:
So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE I RAISED YOU UP, TO DEMONSTRATE MY POWER IN YOU, AND THAT MY NAME MIGHT BE PROCLAIMED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE EARTH." So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires.


Ephesians 1:3-5:
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved.


Ephesians 2:8-9:
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

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Again, there are many more Scriptures that testify to God’s sovereignty in salvation, but these make the point very explicitly and clearly. Furthermore, Scripture makes clear that Jesus did two things for Christians. First, in His death on the cross, Jesus took God’s wrath upon Himself, the wrath that every Christian deserved because all mankind sins. By His death, all of our sins (past, present and future) have been forgiven. Second, Christ’s own righteousness is imputed, or credited, to the Christian by faith. The following Scriptures make this clear:

Romans 5:8-11:

But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.



Romans 4:1-8:

What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, has found? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? "ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS." Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due. But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness, just as David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works: "BLESSED ARE THOSE WHOSE LAWLESS DEEDS HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, AND WHOSE SINS HAVE BEEN COVERED. "BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.”


Romans 4:22-25:

Therefore IT WAS ALSO CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS. Now not for his sake only was it written that it was credited to him, but for our sake also, to whom it will be credited, as those who believe in Him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead, He who was delivered over because of our transgressions, and was raised because of our justification.

Romans 5:19:

For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous.


Hebrews 10:10-14:

By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins; 12but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD, waiting from that time onward UNTIL HIS ENEMIES BE MADE A FOOTSTOOL FOR HIS FEET. For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.

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So, summarizing, we see that we are saved by God’s grace, not our own will or works. In addition, our salvation is not contingent on what we do even after we have been saved because we are counted righteous by what Jesus did. Finally, all of our sins have been forgiven by Christ’s death and resurrection. In this sense, we have already been “perfected” (Hebrews 10:14) in that God has already punished our sin in Christ on the cross, and we are made perfect by Christ’s obedience, with His righteousness credited to the believer.

Clearly, this means that if we have truly been saved, we cannot lose our salvation. Remember, Ephesians 2:8 says that salvation is the gift of God. Romans 11:29 says, “for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.” Therefore, if God has saved us, we are saved forevermore.

Now, let’s apply all of this to your question. f a person has truly received God’s gracious gift of faith, then that person will go to heaven. His actions after becoming a believer do not determine his salvation because, as we’ve shown, salvation is totally due to actions taken on God’s part, not man’s. Scripture also gives us examples of believers who sinned in major ways. Consider the following:

  1. Peter, when he denied he even knew Christ (Luke 22:55-62). Of course, Jesus restored and forgave Peter.

  2. Ananias and Sapphira (Acts 5:1-10).

  3. The unnamed believer in 1 Corinthians 5:1-5.
Having said that, our actions as Christians do have consequences, both here and in eternity in heaven. As the examples above attest, God requires that we discipline those in the church who continue in a life of sin. Matthew 18:15-20 gives clear instructions as to how sinning believers are to be handled. Ultimately, if they refuse to stop sinning, we are to put them out of the church. This is for the destruction of their flesh, not that they would lose their salvation (see 1 Cor. 5:1-5), with the ultimate goal of restoring them to fellowship (as Jesus did with Peter). Sadly, this is rarely done in today’s church.

The Lord makes clear that He will discipline those He loves. Therefore, if we continue in sin, we can expect to be put out of fellowship with the church, as well as God’s chastisement. Hebrews 12:4-7 makes this clear:

You have not yet resisted to the point of shedding blood in your striving against sin; and you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons, "MY SON, DO NOT REGARD LIGHTLY THE DISCIPLINE OF THE LORD, NOR FAINT WHEN YOU ARE REPROVED BY HIM; FOR THOSE WHOM THE LORD LOVES HE DISCIPLINES, AND HE SCOURGES EVERY SON WHOM HE RECEIVES." It is for discipline that you endure; God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his father does not discipline?

We also face consequences in heaven in eternity for what we do here on earth as believers. Again, our salvation is not in question, but the level of rewards we will receive in heaven depend on how we serve God while on earth. This is made most clear in 1 Corinthians 3:9-17:

For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, God's building. According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each man must be careful how he builds on it. For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, each man's work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man's work. If any man's work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward. If any man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire. Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are.

Note that in this passage, believers are compared to a building. The foundation of our salvation is Jesus Christ. What we do in this life to serve God (the building) will be tested when we go to heaven. If we have not served God, which would include a believer continuing in sin, then our works will not pass the test. They will be like wood and straw, useless and burned up in the testing fire.

With nothing to show for our lives in service to God, we will still be saved (v. 15), but we will lose any potential rewards. If we have lived a life in service to God, bearing fruit that lasts, our work will be like gold and precious stones, surviving God’s testing fire. This will lead to rewards in heaven.

One final point...a person who claims to be a Christian but yet never bears fruit and continues in a habitual life of sin, may not, in fact, be a Christian. (Indeed, Scripture says fornicators will not enter the kingdom of God, refering to those who live a lifestyle marked by this pattern of sin (1 Cor. 6:9).) Obviously, all Christians sin while here on earth, but the issue is one of continuing to practice sin in such a way that it suggests an unchanged (unsaved) heart.

John 3:7-9 puts it this way:

Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous; the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Obviously, some Christians will practice righteousness better than others. Ultimately, however, only God knows who is truly a believer and who is not.

Therefore, we must be careful that we don’t go make subjective judgments as to who is and is not a Christian based on their works. Still, we may have reason to doubt the confession of one who by his works appears to be unchanged. Ideally, of course, we’d expect to see some evidence of a changed life in the behavior of a true believer. While there are degrees of change from believer to believer, Scripture tells us that God has prepared us for good works, so this should be our expectation as well.


Can someone continue in sin and still be saved? | Verse By Verse Ministry International



 
Perhaps you are right... but then these verse would be in error.

God desires EVERYONE to be saved. So could it be, draws us all to Him?

1 Tim 2:3; This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1 Tim 2:4; who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

2 Pet 3:9; The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

But again... I think these are two different points.
For sake of argument lets say you are you right and God picks those who saved and those who He wants to go to hell.
OK... God saved them. They are believers now. God chose them, God did it. etc...

Even if all of that is true... it's still no guarantee that they will stay saved. (especially if there is freedom of choice)

I can by you a car, I can buy you gas, I can buy you insurance, I can buy you driving lessons, I do everything within
my power to make sure you have something... there is nothing you have to do to get these things...

But the next day you can go out and get a DUI and 3 tickets and loose your license. In the end, it's up to you what you
do with what God gives you.

As far as predestination - especially Rom 9:16-18; I personally don't feel like it's all or none. It can be both ways.
There are certain things God says will happen -- obviously these things will happen. But there are many other things
God doesn't say anything about one way or the other, and yet they happen. Even unrighteousness and wickedness happens.
We can't blame that on God. Those things happen because of peoples choices.
 
One other point I would make here. God's sovereignty doesn't depend on what do.
Some people seem to think that God being sovereign means we "have" to this or that. But God is sovereign no matter what we do.
In the garden of eden both Adam and Eve ate the fruit. (which God told them not to) so was it Gods fault they ate it?
So now we have 100% of human race being disobedient to God. Did God quit being God during this time?

God is still God no matter what we do, whether we obey Him or not.
 
We, believers, were certainly all drawn by Him, but did all allow themselves to be drawn closer by being obedient?

"These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful." Rev 17:14

But are all who are called also chosen?

"For many are called, but few are chosen. " Matt 22:14

Why are not all those who are called included among the chosen? Perhaps it is because they do not acknowledge their call. Perhaps they will not be with the Lord of Lords because they quenched the Spirit given to them and disobeyed God's instructions to them. Men who have received God's special gift based on the sacrifice of Jesus have received the ability to make correctly for themselves the decision that Adam and Eve made wrongly back in Eden. Like Adam and Eve many people who have been on the right track can choose to leave that right track (that Highway of Holiness... Isa. 35:8)

We, who have received the gift of the Holy Ghost have received power from on high [Acts 1:8], but too often due to our own lack of faith fail to use that gift fully. Are we better than the natural children of Israel who were saved out of Egypt, but then were not allowed into the Promised Land because of repeated rebellions? [Num 14:22-23]

Yes, we have received more than those natural Israelites received, so then consider the words of Jesus in this regard:

"But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever , much is given of him much shall be required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." Luke 12:48

They rebelled [ten times] and lost their entrance into the Promised Land. How many times will we be allowed to quench the Holy Spirit of God in us and will be allowed to be a part of His Kingdom, to be a part of the Body of Christ?

"Quench not the Spirit." I Thess 5:19

We have received more power than those people in the OT who were denied entrance due to repeated rebellions. "Much is given, much is required".


I enjoy reading your comments. You my brother have much wisdom. Continue to bless others with it. I certainly continue to be blessed.
 
The way that is written, I agree with it. I believe He draws us ALL to Him. Some choose to accept Him, others do not. Like you said.. Free will.

1 Tim 2:3; This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1 Tim 2:4; who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

2 Pet 3:9; The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.



Yes but I notice the Lord didn't harden Pharaoh's heart until after Pharaoh hardened his own heart many times before that.

(Exod 7:13; Exod 7:22; Exod 8:15; Exod 8:19; Exod 8:32; Exod 9:7; etc.. )

If we keep rejecting God and being disobedient, He will finally give us what we want. (free will)



I notice that is EVERY single case of this. These people reject God and do not submit to Him. (which happens first, chicken and egg question)
But if you think about it.. why did God feel the need to "show His wrath" and "make known His power" to these disobedient people?

There are people in the Bible who walked with God for a while and then turned away... Saul, Solomon, Judas, Ananias, the Seventy disciples (or 72) etc...
Did God make these people they way were just to show us His wrath? Perhaps, but if that's true... then what guarantee do any of us have
that He wont harden our hearts and turn us away from Him?

Finally... I think the word predestination is often misused here.
For example... there are two planes at the airport. One is going to LA (predestined to go there) the other is going to New York (predestined to go there)
but it's up to me which plane I get on.

Rom 8:29; For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren;
Rom 8:30; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.

I don't have a problem with God knowing the future. (He foreknew)... but just because He knows what choices we will make, doesn't mean He makes
them for us.

I may know you're going into the army. I didn't make you go into the army, you choose to do it on your own. But since you made that choice, it's
predestined that you will get a crew cut and wear camouflage clothing.

God may know in advance that you're going to choose to be saved. He didn't make the choice for you, but since you made the choice on your own...
it's predestined that you will be conformed into the image of His Son. ( Rom 8:29; )


Very well said. Amen brother.
 
A passage came to mind, not sure if someone mentioned this yet since I'm on the phone here but: parable of the prodigal son.

I think if we live a few years enough as believers, we'll all stumble many times, and backslide to a certain degree. At the end of the day, it's about his saving grace not our performance.
 
So, summarizing, we see that we are saved by God’s grace, not our own will or works.
And many choose to leave or walk away from this grace. They deny their Lord and Redeemer.
How can there be a promised continuing salvation for reprobates, the slothful, those who renounce grace and atonement?
For those who deny the purpose and value of the indwelling Spirit given to them, and return back to the flesh, the old person (supposedly buried in
the waters of baptism)?

Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
Galations 5:1, 13

There is a naivety, a doctrinal delusion going on somewhat similar to the foolishness of the secret rapture allowing for "believers" to escape the
challenge of being overcomers and adhering to the true gospel in a wicked world.
Everbody's a winner, no losers in this Christianity made easy choice.

His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things:
enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
Matthew 25:21
- - so what is the implication for one who is not a good and faithful servant?

And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.
His lord answered and said unto him, thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knew that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
Matthew 25:25-26
Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.
For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Mathew 25:28-30

You may well continue to look at faith and commitment through rose coloured glasses. But I prefer to examine myself and see that I continue to be
true and steadfast through the light of the scriptures.

Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
2Corinthians 13:5
 
Romans 11-29
For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.


does not look like we can choose to walk away from his gifts, I would consider grace a gift.
 
Clearly, this means that if we have truly been saved, we cannot lose our salvation.
Herein lies the problem.
Who is truly saved? Good Catholics, the Mother Church? Lutherans who saved us through the Reformation?
Jehovah Witnesses, who claim to have the returned Christ hidden away in their Watchtower? Mormons with their new new testament and another gospel?
Anglicans (or Episcopal) who gave us the KJV? Evangelicals? Baptists? Presbyterians?
Apostolic Pentecostals? Fundamentalists? Libertarians? Russian Orthodox? Eastern Orthodox? Anabaptists and Schwarzenau Brethren?
Methodists? Quakers? Charismatic Pentecostals? Oneness Pentecostals and non-Trinitarians?

Why do the scriptures warn us many times of the perils and dangers of losing our faith, losing our discernment, losing our zeal?
There is no such thing as truly saved. Salvation is a hope for a promise given to those who continue to love the Lord and do the will of our Father,
through submission and obedience to the teachings & commandments of the gospels and epistles.

For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man sees, why doth he yet hope for?
But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
Romans 8:24-25

Truly saved - doesn't everybody hopes (believes) that this applies to themselves?
Truly saved - is this not what the Pharisees and Sadducees believed? That didn't end well.

Before a fall comes pride.
 
Why do the scriptures warn us many times of the perils and dangers of losing our faith, losing our discernment, losing our zeal?
There is no such thing as truly saved. Salvation is a hope for a promise given to those who continue to love the Lord and do the will of our Father,

Every scripture that you can come up with that seems to talk about a person loosing their salvation is all answerable in the "parable" of the "Sower".

"There is no such thing as truly saved" this statement is totally false!!! If a Christian does not know they are truly saved, then God can not be trusted to save anything or anybody!!!

1John 5:13 I have written this to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know you have eternal life.

What a miserable life it would be for someone to NOT know the are truly saved. How sad is that?
 
Greetings,

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave the only begotten Son, so that everyone believing in Him should not perish, but should have eternal life

1Corinthians 13:8-13
Love never fails; but if there are prophesies, they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will be ceased; if there is knowledge it will pass away.For we know in part and we prophesy in part; but when the perfect should come, the partial will be done away.

When I was a child, I was speaking like a child, I was thinking like a child, I was reasoning like a child; when I became a man, I did away with the things of the child. For presently we see through a glass in obscurity; but then, face to face. Presently, I know in part; but then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known.

But now these three things abide: faith, hope, love; but the greatest of these is love.

Bless you ....><>
 
What a miserable life it would be for someone to NOT know the are truly saved. How sad is that?
How do you know that you are truly saved?
As opposed to others who are merely saved, or even those who think they are saved but according to you are not?
 
How do you know that you are truly saved?
As opposed to others who are merely saved, or even those who think they are saved but according to you are not?

1John 5:13 I have written this to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know you have eternal life.

Do you believe what the Word of God says here? Do you have the inward witness that you are a child of God?

Rom 8:16 The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,

Rom 8:9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.
 
Rom 8:16 The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,
Given that 95% of christians deny the original Apostolic gospel given to us; for most would deny the Book of Acts today and Jude 1:20.
Christianity entertains a myriad of doctrines about what receiving the Holy Spirit is. From a bishop declaring now receive the Holy Spirit or to those who
proclaim that you automatically receive the Spirit when you believe.

So who is truly saved? The tiny tiny minority of Bible faithful Pentecostals who are obedient to the original gospel - repentance, full immersion water baptism, along with
baptism in the Holy Spirit with the BIBLE evidence of speaking in new tongues - having full compliance to Mark 16:15-20?

Or is those who think they have received the Holy Spirit by other means?
Most Christian denominations believe in the Holy Spirit, and believe in being guided and helped by the Holy Spirit.
But most do not conform to the Book of Acts and the first Church? Does this mean that they do not have the indwelling Holy Spirit?
Do you have the Holy Spirit in you? How do you know?

Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
John 8:31-32
 
Given that 95% of christians deny the original Apostolic gospel given to us; for most would deny the Book of Acts today and Jude 1:20.
Christianity entertains a myriad of doctrines about what receiving the Holy Spirit is. From a bishop declaring now receive the Holy Spirit or to those who
proclaim that you automatically receive the Spirit when you believe.

So who is truly saved? The tiny tiny minority of Bible faithful Pentecostals who are obedient to the original gospel - repentance, full immersion water baptism, along with
baptism in the Holy Spirit with the BIBLE evidence of speaking in new tongues - having full compliance to Mark 16:15-20?

Or is those who think they have received the Holy Spirit by other means?
Most Christian denominations believe in the Holy Spirit, and believe in being guided and helped by the Holy Spirit.
But most do not conform to the Book of Acts and the first Church? Does this mean that they do not have the indwelling Holy Spirit?
Do you have the Holy Spirit in you? How do you know?

Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
John 8:31-32

No Christian I know chop up the Word of God, and delete Holy Scripture to fit their own preconceived ideas. A person who is born of the Spirit, and those baptized in the Holy Spirit both have the Holy Spirit. Born of the Spirit is for receiving eternal life, and the other is for service in which God has called them.
 
Born of the Spirit is for receiving eternal life,
So how do you know with full surety that you are born again by water and the Spirit?
What is your proof?
Does your testimony line up accurately with the gospel of salvation?

This is important because you are claiming to be truly saved, as opposed to merely being saved.
 
Wiggles it is not the "book of acts" no such book exist in the bible. the book I am sure you are talking about is "the acts of the apostles" and no Christians I know of deny that book. But those gifts were given to them not us.
 
So how do you know with full surety that you are born again by water and the Spirit?
What is your proof?
Does your testimony line up accurately with the gospel of salvation?

This is important because you are claiming to be truly saved, as opposed to merely being saved.
If you do not accept what the scripture says that I have already posted, and what the Holy Spirit (God) bears witness to a child of God that they are truly saved then there is nothing I can say to you or anybody else that will help you see that.
 
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