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Water baptism has great spiritual significance to the process of being converted
It has zero "spiritual significance".
ZERO.
Water gets you wet. Its simply symbolic of the New Birth that has occurred inside a BELIEVER.
Water baptism has great spiritual significance to the process of being converted
OK you believe what you want to believe and I will continue in believing the truth of the gospel.It has zero "spiritual significance".
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Does a person need to confess their sin, so that the blood of Jesus is shed for them again and again, every time they sin, again?
A.) No.
This particular theology that you probably have been taught, by a unsaved Legalist, is based on them misapplying 1st John as this idea..
"as long as i confess my sin, i keep myself saved, but if i dont, then im not saved anymore".
See that?
That is how a person takes a verse, twists it, and it become their false savior.
As now that verse to this person, is their "as long as i do that, i keep myself saved".
Yet, its Christ alone, who keeps us saved.
No confession necessary, only His shed blood and death on the Cross is necessary to save us, and He has finished our SALVATION already.....and said so from the Cross.. when God said...>"It is FINISHED".
"confessing sin", usually means that you are trying to get God to forgive your sin, ......which God as Christ has died to forgive , already.
Christ has died ONCE for ALL sin,,, 1st Peter says... not just for some sin.
See, if all your sin was not taken care of by God on the Cross, then you are not saved.
Listen, God created salvation so that its an eternal forgiveness....completed by God Himself, as Christ on the Cross.
So, this deceivers theology of "confessing sin to stay saved" is a result of not really understanding the Cross or the Blood of Jesus, as God has provided it as a finished Salvation.
Born again Saint.....Salvation is FINISHED......Its not kept by us, its kept by God who GIVES IT TO YOU as "the Gift of Salvation".. Never based on if we are good enough or confess all the sins we remember, as you can't confess those you forgot.
Going to Heaven, is based on What Jesus did to get you there, and never is it based on your lifestyle, or confessing, or works.
So, when a Believer begins to understand that God, Himself, came here to die on The Cross, to free us from our unrighteousness by giving us His, then once we see this as our REDEMPTION and SALVATION, we then truly understand who we have become as "the righteousness of God in Christ".
And God already sees us as this "made righteous", whose SIN.. Jesus became. Which is why Romans 4:8 says that God does not charge sin to the born again.
How can He , when God has already paid for them all, for you.
God can't die for you sin 2000 yrs ago, then charge you for them, also, tomorrow.
So, if a person is born again.. then "Jesus became sin" for them, and died for it all...
The Spiritual LIGHT bulb comes on in your spirit when you realize..>"im confessing sin, that God has already forgiven 2000 yrs ago on the Cross".
Saint...born again.....When you get there, in your inner spiritual understanding, then you'll understand why God's redeemed by the Blood of the Lamb SHOUT and say....THANK YOU JESUS !!!!!!!, AND THEY DONT CArE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK !!!
If you want to confess you sin, because this makes you feel better, as that it all it does, then good.
But its better to see yourself as God sees you..and exit in this RENEWED MIND, as when you do thAT , you will find that your confessing becomes what it is......just your way of feeling better... as the sin is already forgiven by God 2000 yrs ago on the Cross, through the blood of Jesus.
Are you born again?
Not just water baptized....but born again?
If so, then God does not see your sin. Its ALL paid for by God's own Blood and Death, on the Cross... 2000 yrs ago.
God only sees you as "the righteousness of God, in Christ"......"One with God".... if you are born again.
NOW.....You have to begin to only see yourself, as the same as God sees you at all times.
This is "walking in the Spirit", "in the mind of Christ".
Now....Its best that you dont include the Lord in your theology, or your teaching, as He is not found in it, anywhere.
Listen, if God as Christ on the Cross did not pay for all sin like this..>"Jesus became sin"....then sin is not resolved for anyone who is born again.
Figure that out if you think you can and if you do ,you will begin that day to understand the "one time eternal sacrifice for Sin" ....WHO HIMSELF is the "Blood Atonement" that created the 'new covenant" and the "new Testament".
It has zero "spiritual significance".
ZERO.
Water gets you wet. Its simply symbolic of the New Birth that has occurred inside a BELIEVER.
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Bethel, subjectively speaking, you have a lot to learn regarding the scriptures...
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Water baptism, cant do that, so dont let them lie to you, as these liars infect forums with their "water cult" theology.
"Dont be in to much of a rush to deal out judgment, "bro"...because you have demonstrated yourself to be just as culpable on that very same count that you level at Bethel..."
You have a very short memory, in that I easily Bible Slapped you Silly in the following posts, where the last two you completely RAN AWAY from to never be seen again because of the content of said posts you couldn't answer and remain intelligent looking in the aftermath because of their biblical axioms!
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@Shaolin,
YOUR BLATANT RUN AWAY QUOTE TO BIBLICAL AXIOMS IN FRONT OF THE MEMBERSHIP IN POST #36: "Sorry, try again. I do not continue in conversations with morons who repeatedly ignore what Scripture states and continue in their self-made carnal delusions that Scripture does not support. I ran away from nothing.
Oh my, how many times have I seen your little whimpering school girl tactic of RUNNING AWAY from biblical axioms relative to the topic at hand in Christian forums, where I have lost count!
Shaolin, in the posts of mine to you shown herewith; #89, #90, #94, and #95, you RAN AWAY from them where they were biblically vouchsafed, whereas this is your chink in the armor when shown Bible FACTS that you cannot address! Therefore, you put your RUNNING SHOES on and off you go as if no one sees the FACT that you ran away from BIBLE FACTS and went sheepishly into HIDING!
At least you "tried" to address my posts #89 and #90 with your usual little school-girl antics that went embarrassingly wanting at your expense once again, BUT, when the road really got tough in my posts #94 and #95, you completely RAN AWAY from them where **** POOF **** you were gone and you went into HIDING again! LOL!
I am going to allow you to at least "try" and redeem yourself within this very esteemed Religious Jesus Talk forum, okay? Now, don't get too SCARED AGAIN regarding biblical axioms, okay? Therefore, I will meet you in my thread to discuss my post #94 and #95 since you had to RUN AWAY COMPLETELY from them, and without the least of which was another lame sophomoric excuse! LOL!
Here is the link/page for you to meet up with me to "school you" once again relative to the posts that you totally RAN AWAY from, READY?
Yes, I am questioning the Judeo-Christian Bible in the 21st Century ......
The Old Testament prophets did not fully understand what they were prophesying about. (No private interpretation) but they really wanted to, so they searched diligently for its meaning. What they did prophecy about they also testified of .It is was God working in mankind to both will and...www.talkjesus.com
MEMBERSHIP: Should we bet on the side to see if Shaolin has the nerve to show up to address biblical axioms to the topic at hand as shown above, or will Shaolin RUNAWAY again as usual in front of the eyes of Jesus the Christ (Hebrews 4:13) and the membership with yet more girly-boy EXCUSES? We shall see! LOL!