There are many in our government that plan to do just that. Neo-Cons have seized upon this ideology, and wish to hasten Christs return.
1.Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, "Come and see."
2.And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.
10.There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time.
11."And the beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.
One of the seven kings, is also the eighth king. The eighth king will have ruled before as one of the seven. Meaning, one of the seven kings will return to rule again. When the anti-christs mortal wound is healed, he will rise as the eighth king.
12."The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast.
The Bible tells us they are ten kings that have no kingdom yet. This would suggest they are ten people. Though I do believe they will rise from the EU, it is not ten nations.
The anti-christ will be an individual.
Praise the Lord of Glory,
excellent! i like that!!![COLOR="Blue"]Okay, here's what I believe:
I am a "pre-wrath rapture" believer. I am prepared to suffer the Tribulation of the saints in my lifetime. Since we are talking about interpretation of prophesies that have not been fulfilled yet, I could be wrong. But, I would rather be prepared to go through it and be wrong (be raptured before any of it happens), than to believe I am not going to suffer the tribulation and find out that I'm wrong. Believe me, those who are not spiritually-prepared to persevere, even unto and including death, will be deceived and falter.
Also, consider what Jesus said about that time in Matthew 24. One of the symptoms (or signs, if you will) will be "a great falling away". This is specifically a reference to the Body of Christ. He says that many will be weak in their faith and turn away at that time. When the sifting begins in the house of God, as I've said, many who are not sold-out to the Lord will compromise, and dismiss their professed faith (having a form of godlinesss, but denying the power [or relevance]). But, something else even more disruptive could cause THE GREAT FALLING AWAY! For the last about 130 years (when pre-tribulation rapture teaching really started growing within Christianity), MILLIONS of brethren have firmly believed and taught that the church will not be present for the Tribulation of the Saints period. What would happen to the faith of these if suddenly, they were wrong? I'll suggest a result, see if it is reasonable: Many would feel that their churches had lied to them. If they couldn't trust their pastors/ leaders to tell them the truth about this, how could they be trusted for anything they said? They would walk away from Christianity. Then there would be those who are devastated, believing that they just didn't make the rapture, and were abandoned by God to suffer in this world. What would they do? I'll bet you can guess that answer.
Although I have studied the Bible for years, I don't claim to know all the answers. But, I hang staunchly to what little bits of understanding God has given to me. I write what I believe the Lord has taught me. On the matter of "the Rapture", I do not expect it to occur when most people think it will. Jesus said the timing for it wasn't even up to Him. Only the Father knows when. I know it will happen. I hope I'll be included. I am prepared for the purifying fire of tribulation, even unto my death (but I also have some understanding God has shown me about living through it, but that's for a different post).
Please forgive my lengthy post. I wanted to clearly communicate the different interpretations people have of the prophesies. God bless you all as you study His living Word! - Selah (think about it)[/COLOR]
Kotwebck,I have some issues with what people say regarding our Lords return.
First there is going to be a silent rapture? what the bible describes sound like the noisiest even ever on Earth?
Some will be taken before the tribulation? The Word of God and Jesus clearly states the when he comes it's the last day.
All these theories that some preachers proclaim to be truth is verses out of context, and ignoring or down playing others.
I get a feeling that our preachers are lying or is preaching but not God inspired.
Seems to me that one of the last days prophecies is being ignored here, the one about false prophets (I assume preachers too) deceiving even the elect/saints?
Hmmm... you could be right. I haven't really looked at point 3 above that way. More study is needed here(4) The dead saints from the last half of the tribulation are redeemed from the earth after the tribulation. Revelation 20:4KJV
BAC,Hmmm... you could be right. I haven't really looked at point 3 above that way. More study is needed here
But obviously we agree on points 2 and 5 and even point 4. I have read this over literally dozens of times, and I don't see how point 4 could be any other way.
My big issue with including point 1 (yes, I agree this happened) as part of the "first resurrection", is because I believe this already happened 2000 years ago.
The word rapture is not in the bible just wondering what makes you so sure of a rapture... I guess I'm not convinced. Does anyone have scripture about raptureOf course I don't know, but I've often felt that God is waiting for the harvest to be at it's maximum before the rapture. He knows the time and no one else. But of course God is certainly capable of knowing the future too. From what I've heard there is a significant amount of growth around the world right now in christian believers. My feelings are that this must reach it's pinnacle before God rescues His children. I'm not doubting that He already knows when this will be. We just need to be patient and keep reaching out to the lost with the truth. The more people that turn to Jesus the more we thwart the devil and prove the devil wrong about us. It's worth waiting for if you ask me, even if it means we must suffer while waiting.
Just because the word isn't there doesn't mean it's not biblical. Same with the word trinity (or triune for that matter).The word rapture is not in the bible just wondering what makes you so sure of a rapture... I guess I'm not convinced. Does anyone have scripture about rapture