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10 End Time Prophecies

Discussion in 'Evidence & Prophecy' started by Chad, Feb 10, 2004.

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  1. Chad hello... I would like to clear what the Mark is.

    1. The reason for the mark is the devils Not man's
    Rev 14:9-11 tells us those who receive the mark have sealed their fate in the Lake of Fire.
    Rev 7:3 God has His servants sealed with his image
    And so does the devil.

    2. The word "MARK" means CHARAGMA (5480 - A scratch or etching - same as 5482 - CHARAX (5482 - To sharpen to a point through the idea of scratching... (Strong's concordence)

    The image is through scarification - chips can be blocked and removed but scars are another story....
     
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  2. You can read from Ezekiel 37-39
    37 where Israel comes back into the land in 1948
    38 where Gog (islamic countries) attack Israel in the last days.
    (this are the last week of Daniel 9:24 punishment then comes everlasting righteousness.)
    38:18 where God fights for Israel -39:29 no more shame for Israel

    To understand who gog is and where its at we go to both Gen 10:1-8 these had their start off the ark in turkey and it is where these family located as to who they are today...

    we also look at 1st Chronicles 1:5-9...
     
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  3. The pope believes we are made in the image of monkeys
    As he offically escepts evolution
    Man was made in the image of God
    Not the image of mokeys
     
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  4. Good post Chad..How many of these prophesies do you see fulfilled as of Today? Just curious.

    Did you know that China has a force of more than 200 million soldiers on active duty all the time? And that in order for them to attack Israel the have to cross the Euphrates? Did you know that plans are underway to facilitate this?
     
  5. In 1962 I believe Time mag carried the boast that china could muster an army of 200 million

    Also turkey? Built a dam which can shut off the euphrates.....

    Also you may note that when saddam was still here no way persia was going to israel until american troops were removed from iraq
     
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  6. I believe in the end times or that the world's doomsday, not just because it is stated in the Bible but also because of some scientific facts. I just hope that the time is not anytime soon.
     
  7. meldieching, end times is the end of the time of men ruling the world with their kingdoms operating apart from God's way. The kingdoms of this world will soon come under the dominion of the Kingdom of God being the ruling kingdom here on earth - not letting evil run amuck.

    The Kingdom of God will be brought to earth when Jesus returns. In general terms and timeframe, Jesus gave the parable of the fig tree in Matthew 24 as to when. Basically, the fig tree represents Jerusalem, as Jesus cursed a fig tree by the side of the road as he was entering Jerusalem that last passover week which he would be rejected and crucified.

    When Jerusalem is a fig tree again, it leaves tender, that generation will not pass away until all of the prophesies ,capped by Jesus's return, are fullfilled.

    So we take 1967, Jerusalem back in the hands of the Jews again, and add 70 years for a generation length (Psalms 90) to get 2037 - not later than then, Jesus will have returned.

    We can go further to say, if we subtract from 2037 - the seven year timeframe leading up to Jesus's return, that period containing the end times prophecies - we get not later than the end of 2030 - could be earlier - that the seven years begin.

    The good thing is if a person is a Christian, then there is the hope of the rapture, which the bodily translation of the living Christians which Jesus takes to heaven -to escape all the bad stuff that will take place here on earth. We can't really time the rapture, but the idea is to be hopeful and believing, watching, because it could happen anytime between now and when it actually happens - Luke 21:34-36.

    Most of the first half of the 7 years will be somewhat peaceful - as the world will think it has entered the Messianic age (an illusion) - 1Thessalonians5:2-3. It is that last 1335 days that will be the great tribulation. The great tribulation begins when what is called the abomination of desolation is placed in the temple (to be rebuilt) in Jerusalem. The 1335 days is in Daniel 12:11-12.
     

  8. It has been fulfiled already and it did not concern Israel but the unholy Roman Empire army of the papal antichrist being defeated by the mongals.


    This video explains the rev 9 army
     
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  9. #129 BLACKSHEEP, May 28, 2018
    Last edited: May 28, 2018
    The entire population in the first century was just over 200 million people. The Mongol army of Genghis Khan was barely over 100,000 soldiers. The Roman Army was about 4 times that size. The Mongol's never had a military even close to 200 mil, and in no time in history was there ever an army of 200 million. In no way was that prophecy fulfilled. The locust of Rev. 9 have long been associated with Arabs in the Old Testament, therefore, Revelation 9 has long been associated with ISLAM. I think the 200 million are jihadist! Revelation 9 is one of the most evil chapters in all of end-time prophecy.
     
  10. Greetings,

    I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination so offer my input here with that in mind.

    from what I understood, the Chinese army was at one stage around the 200 million.
    I see/saw that it is a coalition between the communist and islam that are spoken of. Have done for years now, but happy to be shown otherwise.

    Regarding anything from the professing christian side (the Church) a house divided will fall. This also means that if we are so busy attacking one another rather than building each other up, we stand little to no chance of defending ourselves from even a leaf falling on our head!

    That of course does not entail embracing anything goes, be it far from that, but, we do need to remember the grace offered us which we partake in without any measure on our part (normally) and to go about our love with that in mind, remembering that love your enemies is essential to that as we were once ourselves enemies to God without Christ Jesus the Lord and Lamb of God.

    So far, the west is crippling itself and the rest of the world is following suit. Most of the hard work has already been done, through communist infiltration and pressure, and the standoff at some stage will between the communist and the islam sectors, perhaps after they have done a little more to disrupt the world and infiltrate all christian thinking and action... including the ability to show the love of God as we have been shown in His Son.


    Bless you ....><>
     
  11. A coalition between communist and Islam is possible. But I don't see how the communist fit in Rev. 9. The locust are associated with the Arabs and scorpions are predominately a Mid-East creature. Even in Ezekiel 38-39 it's doubtful Gog is Russia, but I leave that possibility open.

    The Church is more divided than ever. One would think that in these days of the internet, radio and television, and social media the Church would flourish. But what has happened is that those things have only exposed the Churches divisions and hypocrisy. Youtube is full of preachers full of negativity and degradation toward one another. Today, too many Christians believe that exposing the flaws in one another is the way to uplift one another when all it does is divide us and expose our hypocrisy. There are some high profile preachers today that most Christians look up to that are full of negativity, degradation, and condemnation that it makes me wonder why anyone would want to consider converting to Christ. The conversion rates prove Christianity is losing serious ground.

    How far do we let love go when it comes to a false religion with a history that hates Christians, Jews, and ALL non-Muslims? They even one another! How much should we love those in a religion who kill people (even their own children) on a daily basis in the name of their false god? How do we love people in a religion who since its inception has wared against Christians in the Crusades?
    I'm not sure about the commnist connection, but I am convinced that Islam is the religion of the beast. The West is crippling itself by allowing this religion that's bent on World Domination to establish itself n the West. I'm not sure the communist and Islam have significant ties.
     
  12. Greetings,

    The west is crippling itself by rejecting the Lord.

    You asked about the communist connection. You may remember that the communist religion was and is to wipe all other notions of religion of the face of the earth and replace it with their religion of there being no God but instead all must pay homage to the red flag, etc and all it stands for especially the person at the top. Either they can't see the hypocrisy in their ideas or else they are deliberately making themselves out to be 'God' with their own set of rules and Law.
    So, their agenda was and is to get rid of all who followed the Lord. They determined some years back that they would take over the west without firing any bullets. Espionage by infiltration and trouble stirring, creating division and unrest in the western nations to the point of the western nations being so crippled that they would then be open to the communist agenda, without knowing it. So far, they have achieved that aim quite well.
    Militant oppression and laws that bind every citizen are common place now, even if we still believe we can do as we want and especially have free speech and decide for ourselves what we want regarding anything that we don't agree with.
    The churches are so busy being divided and full of themselves instead of God that they have haply invested their interest in the way of the world, and succumbed to the more modern turns of the table.
    It used to be that Christian basics were standard fare but now, we are close to the point where Christianity is not tolerated because it is seen as being intolerant of any other god or 'religion'. For example, I am the way the truth and the life... ye shall have no other god beside Me... etc etc. No man comes to the Father but by Me, said the Lord Jesus Christ the Son, the only begotten Son of God, Who gave His life a ransom, and stated that whoever is not for Me is against Me... and the Scriptures then go on to tell us, and the whole wide world, that there is no other name given under heaven whereby man/men must be saved,
    I think you probably know many more similar Scriptures.

    One problem we arrived at and has been passed on to us in our generation and nobody has batted an eyelid about was the immense work at Hitler's agreement of a translation and work of so called study of Scriptures that became a standard for many of the erroneous new translations we see circulating today, which have helped greatly (actually hindered greatly) with dividing the church at large and setting a vile anti semitic slant on the modern population. A double whammy. (sorry but the name eludes me now of the names etc but i can find out if you like? ... if i live that long etc, in God's will - there was one man particularly who was the mastermind scholar behind it all).

    So, while one might think that that is ludicrous, I understand, for wasn't Hitler and the Communists at was with each other? That might be best for another subject another time? Suffice it is that one plus one equals two. And, they have both been at 'war' against the rest of the world if they were not willing to step in line and march accordingly.

    (this is very brief and does not contain everything, but an overview, so please excuse me for any bits left out)

    So, the communists have been setting us up for along time and now we find ourselves nearly totally at their disposal, meaning China.
    Who or what is China representative of? The Dragon. 200 million in the army.

    I'll let you work it out from there as you are probably better versed at the Book of Revelation than me. See also the one killing the other or something like that (I am rusty, sorry) Something about them working together then one gets shafted by the other.


    Bless you ....><>
     
  13. The dragon only represents China in secularism. In the bible the dragon is a name for Satan and it's also associated with a serpent or sea monster like the leviathan. The word dragon is used 12 times in Revelation.

    The 200 million in Revelation 9 are associated with locust and scorpions. Both of them represent the Arab's and the Arab Middle-East. My page on Revelation 9 is a long one and will only comment briefly on the chapter.

    Suicide bombers are mentioned in Revelation 9...

    "And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; (Babylonians) and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone."
     
  14. Greettings,

    as i said,

    Bless you ....><>
     
  15. Even some the prophecy experts do a good job of misleading people. Some of their teachings are really bad. Some of the worse ones are globalism, i.e. a world dictator, a one world government or united world religion, and global mark of the beast. Neither are Rome, Catholicism, Europe, or the USA found in end-time prophecy.

    I don't consider myself an expert, but I have done my homework on the subject.
     
  16. The Chinese can field an army of 200,000,000 today if they wished and could activate millions more in a matter if days.... BTW The above video is junk....Figured out intellectually and without the Holy Spirits guidance
     
  17. Rev. 9 is loaded with terminology that needs to be understood. There are two woe's in Chapter 9. The first one ends on verse 12.

    "And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power."

    In V. 1-3 the abyss is opened and the locust released from the pit and are given power like scorpions have power.

    LOCUST AND SCORPIONS

    Two things are symbolic in V. 1-3 Scorpions and locust. Both of them have the Mid-East as their natural habitat, especially in Arabia. In Arabic the word "Arab" and "locust" sound similar. The locust represent the Arabs.

    Speaking of the Arabs, Judges 6:5 say’s...
    "For they came up with their cattle and their tents, and they came as grasshoppers for multitude; for both they and their camels were without number: and they entered into the land to destroy it."


    In Judges 6:5 and 7:12 the Midianites and the Amalekites are likely related to the Ishmaelites. They are Arab tribes and are associated with grasshoppers or ‘LOCUST.’ Gesenius says that the Midianites are of an Arab nation, and the Amalekites are the descendants of Esau. In Genesis 37:25 the Midianites seem identified with the Ishmaelites. Strong's says Midian or Midianite' = "strife."

    Nahum says about the Arabs...
    "Make thyself many as the locusts." Nah.3:5

    This is why I associate the locust with the Arabs/Muslims.

    The first woe ends at verse 12. The locust that emerge from the pit appear to be demons. I believe they torment Muslim jihadist.
    Revelation 9:7 "And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men."

    "Crowns like gold?" Crowns developed into TURBANS.

    In the Old Testament crowns were a piece of cloth tied around the head with a piece of gold or precious stone placed in the middle. Common people couldn't afford the gold or precious stones and just used a piece of cloth. There is an Arabian proverb that says the Arabs should use turbans instead of diadems or 'crowns'.

    "Revelation 9:8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions."
    Faces of men? The most distinguishing features of a man's face as opposed to a woman's face is a beard. The most distinguishing feature of a woman's face is her hair. What do ISIS fighters look like? Nearly all of them have long hair and a beard. Dead or alive they look the same.
    Teeth of lions? The lion is symbolic of the Arabs and Babylon. Teeth are symbolic of ferocity and to devour and consume.

    I see no reason to associate this with an army from China.

    A few notes about Muhammad and Islam...

    Strong's says Abaddon is, "destruction and, the name of the angel-prince of the infernal regions, the minister of death and the author of havoc on the earth." About Apollyon he says, "the angel of the bottomless pit, the Destroyer." Destroyer happens to be one of Allah's 99 names. This fallen angel could be Lucifer or another fallen angel.

    One of the finest Islamic scholars of the twentieth century, Abul A’la Mawdudi, wrote a book to introduce the
    English-speaking world to Islam. His subtitle called Arabia, the center of Mohammed’s activities, the “Abyss of Darkness.” The phrase “bottomless pit” in the above passage is actually the word for “abyss” in Greek. This prominent scholar used the exact words of the Bible when describing the center of Mohammed’s activity.









     
  18. So you think the locusts that come up out of the smoke of the pit are Arabs? How did they get down into the pit so they could come out? Oh...and do Arabs have wings? I didn't know that.

    He opened the abyss and locust came out. Now these locusts looked like horses outfitted for battle. On their heads were what looked like crowns of gold, and their faces were like human faces. 8 They had hair like women’s hair, and their teeth were like those of lions. 9 Their chests were like iron breastplates, and the sound their wings made was like the roar of many horses and chariots rushing into battle. 10 They had tails like those of scorpions, with stings; and in their tails was their power to hurt people for five months. 11 They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is “Abaddon” and in our language, “Destroyer.”

    That's what they look like....I would call them criptids...Creatures made by Abbadon himself...Made? Ok. Genetically manipulated, gene spliced into these locust things.
     
  19. We could go back and forth on this and never get anywhere if you can't see how figurative the locust are of the Arab's. Revelation is full of symbolism. The shapes of the locust are like horses unto battle with crowns like gold on their heads having the faces of men and hair like women? Put it all together and realize God is conveying this prophecy from a first century man with first century knowledge and terminology from what he sees in a vision.

    Muhammad and his fellow Muslim's are in the pit. Maybe you didn't catch it but I also said the locust are demons. These demons torment the jihadist for 5 months. The locust represent demons who are on work release who torment the Arab's/Muslims.

    If these locust are both demons and people, (or as you say 'cryptids') why would you say their horsemen come from China?

    This is part of an un-copyright article...if you take the time to read it you may understand this much better.
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    Protestant scholars of the nineteenth century saw with amazing unanimity the rise and spread of Islam in this passage. Why? First consider where the locusts came from. They came from the “Abyss.” One of the finest Islamic scholars of the twentieth century, Abul A’la Mawdudi, wrote a book to introduce the English-speaking world to Islam. His subtitle called Arabia, the center of Mohammed’s activities, the “Abyss of Darkness.” The phrase “bottomless pit” in the above passage is actually the word for “abyss” in Greek. This prominent scholar used the exact words of the Bible when describing the center of Mohammed’s activity.
    Why locusts? Because of the Arabs’ connection to the locust. The Ismaelites, forerunners of the modern Muslim, have as their national insignia a locust in the Bedoween romance “Antwar.” There is also a story of Mohammed that has locusts falling into his hands bearing the inscription “We are the Army of the Great God.” So here are two connections, but it doesn’t stop there.

    Consider the appearance of the locusts:
    The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces. Their hair was like women’s hair, and their teeth were like lions’ teeth. They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into battle. They had tails and stings like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months. They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon. (Rev 9:7-11)

    The Arabs were widely renown for their skill with a horse; according to Adam Clarke it was as if the horse and the rider were one. The Muslim wore a yellow turban as a crown, according to the poem “Antwar.” As for the face and the hair, according to Scripture a man is not to shave his beard (Lev 19:27), and the long hair of a woman is her glory (1 Cor 11:15). Arabs of the day were described as having shoulder-length hair and beards. The teeth of the lion probably represented their ferocity in battle. The breastplate reminds us of the Koran’s statement that “God hath given you coats of mail.”

    The tails and the stings of the scorpion were likely references to the Muslims’
    ability to shoot backwards accurately while in full retreat. The power of their tails probably represented the poisonous doctrines of Islam that they were spreading to the world.

    What of the other limitations placed on the army? They couldn’t harm vegetation. The Koran commands the Muslims to leave the vegetation in invaded territories alone. Muslim armies were also commanded to leave the monks in the monestaries alone and monestaries were not to be burned. These people, the Muslims thought, had God’s seal of protection on them. The Muslims were not allowed to kill the church, only torture it. That is, they couldn’t destroy the church, but they did set a series of calamities on it for five prophetic months.
     
  20. Well, of course you know that the bible is full of fact too...Not just symbolism but it also says things just the way they are, just the way they will be...I believe the book of Revelation is full of factual things as well as symbolic. To say the locust are the Arabs is akin to saying the Antichrist is the pope....Yet the bible does not say there is 'an antichrist' It uses the word 'antichrist' to indicate that one is 'against Christ' yet says nothing about a single man holding such a position.
    At this particular point in time, Muslims are coming to Jesus by the thousands. Why? They are very sincere seekers of God...They are probably the most sincere people on the planet for seeking after God! Yes Many of them are sincerely deceived by that demonic religion but many many of them are coming out of there into the light of Gods love.
    Listen my friend! One CANNOT study the Word of God intellectually! It must be done by the Spirit of the One who wrote this wonderful letter to you. He is your teacher, He is your councellor. He is your teacher. That wonderful computer between your ears is not capable of understanding the things of the Spirit.
    John 16:13
    Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

    1 Corinthians 2:14
    But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. The intellect is the natural man..

    In the meanwhile, I love your enthusiasm for the Word....Just seek the Holy Spirit to be your teacher.
     

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