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Of course people can stop sinning before they are saved.
Jesus came to teach us the way and to reconcile us to God.I would say no because that is the whole point for why Jesus had to come; to save sinners from their sins and give us eternal life.
There are people who obeyed God before they received the Holy Spirit.Plus if we can stop sinning before salvation,
Many did.why couldn't the Jews do it under the Old Covenant?
The law was to hold the people until Jesus came.That is the whole point of the law to school us into seeing our need for God to save us since we cannot save ourselves.
In Hebrews, we are told we have to obey, for they did not enter because they didn't obey.Hebrews 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
You should fear that you are coming short of entering into His rest because of your unbelief that you refuse to believe that by believing in Him is how you enter into that new Covenant and how one is born again of the Spirit.
Ceasing from our own work is ABOUT THE PURIFICATION WORKS.If you are working by repenting from sins, then how is that you ceasing from your own work in order to enter into that rest?
NO ONE IN THE BIBLE IS EVER REBUKED FOR OBEYING GOD TOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!
They are rebuked for being talked into doing the PURIFICATION WORKS OF THE LAW even AFTER Jesus came and died for us and is the purifier and the one who justifies now.
Believing that his blood purifies us now and not the blood of lambs.And yet to enter into that rest, that New Covenant, is by believing in Jesus Christ for eternal life.
You are preaching against God who tells us to obey him.No, that is not all the scripture was deferring from in how one is born a son of God now. John 1:12-13 testifies that we receive Him not by our own will power nor by our own effort, but by believing in Him, even those who just believe in His name.
There were many who did.If you can stop sinning before getting saved, then why couldn't the Jews do that under the Old Covenant?
You just were taught wrong and now ensnared to keep to this false doctrine you are in.
Give it up for God's Truth, like I did too.
I tell you, I probably gave up more than you will ever.
I was a Catholic and took a lot of pride in my denomination, one of the oldest denominations, the most beautiful buildings and the stained glass windows, and all the paintings and statues and the gold and the earthly riches and the smoke and mirrors!
I gave up family and years of my life given to studies and ceremonies and the belief of my ancestors.
It is worth it to give it all up for God's Truth.
You are hanging onto your false faith alone teachings, even when you see God's words now for yourself.
Jesus came first for those who were the lost sheep of Israel. They were sheep! Not all Jews were considered sheep. God cut them off and hardened them while Jesus was on earth and bound them to the same place as the disobedient Gentiles.Why doesn't scripture testify that they had stopped sinning and so God was glad to offer His Son to die for them? Because they didn't.
The false faith alone beliefs were around during the APOSTLES time. James says the people who believed in it were foolish, and Peter says people misunderstand Paul and then he warns us to obey! See 2 Peter 3:16, 17.You keep excusing works as if only pertaining to purification works when it is everything and anything a man can do in trying to get themselves justified i.e. obtaining salvation.
Jesus came and made a new testament/covenant. It is based on faith that Jesus purifies us instead of the people purifying themselves with the works of the law, WHICH ARE THE PURIFICATION WORKS OF THE LAW.
You go against Jesus who had John the baptizer prepare the way for him!Romans 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
If repentance of sins had to be done by the sinner before Jesus can save them, then it is no longer by grace that we have been saved by, now is it?
You go against the beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
After John the baptizer was put in prison, Jesus and his disciples started the water baptizing!!!
You go against Jesus who says repent or perish.
That repentance is of SINS.