Women

[Sebastian]

Does the Bible anywhere say anywhere at all that Women have the "breath of wind/Spirit" in them?

It doesn't count if Adam got it breathed into him and then Eve was made from his rib, -doesn't count.

Does it anywhere at all say that women have that immortal breath of Life, ooor, how to put it.. U know what I mean.
Is there any mention at all about women being in heaven, ooor, if it says anything at all anywhere which means they have the "the breath of wind/Spirit" in them? Anything at all? Please see if you can find any Scripture which says they do, and if you find any, please write it below.

Thank yuu berry much!

Jesus and his Father are totally cool n stuff, Like ICE.,,Ice Club Soda-ICE (that's some hardcore ICE).

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[fightngwrmwood]

Acts 17:24-31 makes Genesis 1 clear that all breath is because of Him.

Note that Spirit and breath are the same word in Hebrew. Deborah prophecies in Judges by the Spirit.

Hannah prophecies in 1 Samuel 2:1-10. Sounds like Psalm 113 and Jesus's mothers song too, found in Luke 1:46-55

Elizabeth is filled with the Holy Spirit in Luke 1:42.

Mary was made pregnant by the Holy Spirt so if there are any questions about G-d being close to women, that should put that query to rest. See Luke 1:35.

All Scripture is G-d breathed and tells of many Spirit filled women, Rahab, in Joshua 6 and honored in Jmes 5, Ruth, as in the book of Ruth, Naomi also in Ruth, Esther,as in the book of Esther, great read, Zipporah saves Moses son in Exodus 4:24-26.

Galatians 3:28 is also important to keep in mind when considering such a distinction. Keep in mind Christ is G-d and therefore reflects the heart of the One breathing life.

"All baptized in Christ, you have all clothed yourselves in Christ, and there are no more distinctions between Jew and Greek, slave and free, male and female, but all of you are one in Christ Jesus."

I recommend you read the gospel of John.

 

[Hekuran]

Read the text. Genesis 2

"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

God breathed the breath of life into the man. We all know that women are alive too.

 

[Sebastian]

note: I'll read and input tomorrow (after sabbath).

 

[Sebastian]

But before I go #sabbath_vacationMode "Up 'in-Hie'"; is to be written: I am "talking about" 'That immortal'-thingy, ehm,, So like, Not, "Life" as the poster above suggested,(since, like, a parrot is obviously a living being too; for example.), aaaaaaaand --- another "aspect" to "keep in mind": God working through Women, prophesising+being moved by His spirit+etc, -Doesn't count (heavily, atleast)-; because God, I believe, is fully able to "Move" & "This, That and The Other" Beings that does Not "include" 'That immortal'-thingy, - for example He could then interject upon, let's say, a parrot;-and have it prophesy By His Hand&Will. [[I do believe there are examples of animals being Moved&Stuff in the Bible [[So if so, then women being Moved-Etc doesn't make a solid case for women having 'That immortal'-Thingy [[since I'm quite "sure" Scripture doesn't say animals "have" 'Such-an-immortalness' about them]]]]]]. - Please don't mistake me by believing I am equating women with animals.

 

[Sebastian]

Lastly: The "intellectual conceptions" the previous post by I in this thread have been changed.. It's a too long "thing" to write out through this Iphone, but basically it's "-an opening up to the possibility (in my mind 'probability') that 'That-immortal'-thingy is, -ehm, -how to put this..., that "IT" is "come into being"/"coming into existence"/becoming, not -"automatic" (that all are born with THAT, and then 'have it', as a like... a limb (-.-')) -but is instead comparable to a fire/flame, which at some point Becomes by being -comparably- tindered, and followingly "grown" "similiar to a flame/fire" -feeding on "That_of_TheSpirit", -for example-, where a 'physichal flame' feeds upon physichal beingnessess, - But whatever, -maybe it's not for me to write this post, due to it not changing the 'inquiry at hand' significantly at all, really: Who Knows.

 

[Dovegiven]

But before I go #sabbath_vacationMode "Up 'in-Hie'"; is to be written: I am "talking about" 'That immortal'-thingy, ehm,, So like, Not, "Life" as the poster above suggested,(since, like, a parrot is obviously a living being too; for example.), aaaaaaaand --- another "aspect" to "keep in mind": God working through Women, prophesising+being moved by His spirit+etc, -Doesn't count (heavily, atleast)-; because God, I believe, is fully able to "Move" & "This, That and The Other" Beings that does Not "include" 'That immortal'-thingy, - for example He could then interject upon, let's say, a parrot;-and have it prophesy By His Hand&Will. [[I do believe there are examples of animals being Moved&Stuff in the Bible [[So if so, then women being Moved-Etc doesn't make a solid case for women having 'That immortal'-Thingy [[since I'm quite "sure" Scripture doesn't say animals "have" 'Such-an-immortalness' about them]]]]]]. - Please don't mistake me by believing I am equating women with animals.

I think the answer to your confusion lies in the manner of new breathing for newborn babies. Do you suppose God breathes life into him to replace his breathing of amniotic fluid in the womb? If God doesn't show up, the baby will suffocate without CPR? Or maybe new life was designed by God to be genetically acquired, all humans after Adam's fashioning able to enjoy both air breathing and spirit possession beginning in the womb.

That dual breath you are wondering about would have come that same natural way beginning from when Eve was yet in Adam, activating upon arising out of him. Ever since then it's been natural for new births to simply receive what you speak of. In other words, God directly started that process with the first man, and since then both male and female live by what God set up in man. Notice also that at birth there is no difference in birth process of boy or girl.

 

[Sebastian]

Sigh (bare with I), one last input: If quoting, or referring to (-or any at all actually) Scripture, then I shall appreciate if the Scripture is by someone "close to God" (in any of all the ways that is possible), - because, just because something is in the Bible doesn't make it true (does make it '-real-' though, I believe (that it took place, happened and was/is/going-to-be real (with errors due to translationing etc ofc considered)). What I mean with that is: If it in the Bible says a fisherman 'took up a gold-spear and said to a crowd; - This builder has comitted a great sin! And God wants us to take his life for it!' Then I believe that actually took place, yet, that just because a human says something in Scripture, doesn't make the statement automatically true (in this case maybe the fisherman is ignorant and God not at all wanting the people to take the builder's life). Aaand so, -if you are to bring forth Scripture-texts about the 'question-at-hand', then I shall appreciate if it's "from the more reliable type of spokesperson" - Jesus' words would be perfect. Thanks 4 consideration.

 

[Sebastian]

'til tomorrow - ciao

 

[fightngwrmwood]

But before I go #sabbath_vacationMode "Up 'in-Hie'"; is to be written: I am "talking about" 'That immortal'-thingy, ehm,, So like, Not, "Life" as the poster above suggested,(since, like, a parrot is obviously a living being too; for example.), aaaaaaaand --- another "aspect" to "keep in mind": God working through Women, prophesising+being moved by His spirit+etc, -Doesn't count (heavily, atleast)-; because God, I believe, is fully able to "Move" & "This, That and The Other" Beings that does Not "include" 'That immortal'-thingy, - for example He could then interject upon, let's say, a parrot;-and have it prophesy By His Hand&Will. [[I do believe there are examples of animals being Moved&Stuff in the Bible [[So if so, then women being Moved-Etc doesn't make a solid case for women having 'That immortal'-Thingy [[since I'm quite "sure" Scripture doesn't say animals "have" 'Such-an-immortalness' about them]]]]]]. - Please don't mistake me by believing I am equating women with animals.

@Sebastian. It is interesting that you disqualify some Scriptures with the phrase "doesn't count." This dismissiveness does not communicate well your point. Nor does it seem to add to your credibility for making an argument.

Also the irreverent language - immortal thingy? I am not sure that the Lord would be pleased with such a description given the breadth of the vocabulary you have available from English, coupled with the creativity of our Creator, - I frankly think you can do better.

I agree He can make the rocks cry out, but people made in His image aren't rocks. It's true He makes a donkey talk back, (I am referring to Numbers 22), but no one gives the donkey's faith any credit anywhere in Scripture. The point of the passage about the donkey was that the owner, it's steward was abusing it, devaluing the gift it was from the Lord.

Many mighty men of the Lord, and the Lord himself praised the faith of women, such as the faith of a woman in Matthew 15. If you are not trying to say that women are like animals, what is the line of these questions getting to? Any line trying to get at tearing someone or a group of people down cannot honor the heart of the Lord. Are you trying to build up women? If so, that is not clear. What is clear is that the Lord Jesus and His disciples later certainly did edify the women in their midst.

It seems as if - and I hope that this is not the case - but - I will ask. Are you are attempting to make a case that women are not born a with a spiritual nature -or if they are, it is an inferior nature? Please clarify if this is not the case.

Or is it perhaps an attack on the Word's telling of the story of creation? Where are you going with this post called women?

I also agree it's in the bible because it's true and not the other way around. At the same time, since there is nothing false in the bible, it behooves us to read it as true and authoritative and delve into the meanings of the whole bible, as well as the isolated verses.

I hope and pray you will read all the Scriptures with an openness of heart and mind to His Spirit because once that is in you, you won't be able to discount His word very much longer. Peace to you, brother.

 

[Sebastian]

@Sebastian. It is interesting that you disqualify some Scriptures with the phrase "doesn't count." This dismissiveness does not communicate well your point. Nor does it seem to add to your credibility for making an argument.

Also the irreverent language - immortal thingy? I am not sure that the Lord would be pleased with such a description given the breadth of the vocabulary you have available from English, coupled with the creativity of our Creator, - I frankly think you can do better.

I agree He can make the rocks cry out, but people made in His image aren't rocks. It's true He makes a donkey talk back, (I am referring to Numbers 22), but no one gives the donkey's faith any credit anywhere in Scripture. The point of the passage about the donkey was that the owner, it's steward was abusing it, devaluing the gift it was from the Lord.

Many mighty men of the Lord, and the Lord himself praised the faith of women, such as the faith of a woman in Matthew 15. If you are not trying to say that women are like animals, what is the line of these questions getting to? Any line trying to get at tearing someone or a group of people down cannot honor the heart of the Lord. Are you trying to build up women? If so, that is not clear. What is clear is that the Lord Jesus and His disciples later certainly did edify the women in their midst.

It seems as if - and I hope that this is not the case - but - I will ask. Are you are attempting to make a case that women are not born a with a spiritual nature -or if they are, it is an inferior nature? Please clarify if this is not the case.

Or is it perhaps an attack on the Word's telling of the story of creation? Where are you going with this post called women?

I also agree it's in the bible because it's true and not the other way around. At the same time, since there is nothing false in the bible, it behooves us to read it as true and authoritative and delve into the meanings of the whole bible, as well as the isolated verses.

I hope and pray you will read all the Scriptures with an openness of heart and mind to His Spirit because once that is in you, you won't be able to discount His word very much longer. Peace to you, brother.

Leave Me, You worker of iniquity (not really, but attacks done from neutrality (laying out one's (to some people) offensive ideas aren't an expression of collision-confrontation (this is yet just highly controversial imo)). Stray not against the current here, for it shoun't take greatness in here higher. despise, take offence, criticize repudiate and see wrong and immorality all you do, yet spew it elsewhere unless God helps u stomach the hot iron ball of your conflict

I love you, give ---disguised as great retribution.




(((above is not attacking ~is giftfully deflecting error and unjust conflict brought upon My persona.
PLEASE: HOLD YOUR GUN OF INIQUITY - DO NOT BRING ABOUT MORE DARKNESS IN ANY OF THEIR HORRIBLE SNEAKY SELFRIGHTEOUS God'condemned "appearances of consideration and "help" and "goodness". LEAVE IT ALONE.
(This is to try to ward off the **** you are holding to take out here. DO NOT. (The aggressor always comes out short and bleeding more than before the 'hold iron-ball thrown (or slided over, or etc)'. - This is a warning for all concerning the war that fightngwrmwood brought up in pityful reaction to my laying out the ideas presented. Follow her stead not.

Jesus forgives you and I for our lack of perfection and righteousness. Leave it alone, or I shall forgive as much as I can but deflect back the rest with vigor to put down my feet heavily upon the wicked ways of injustice brought upon my persona.

Over.

 

[Sebastian]

Had to write that because so many people Hate me here ("-Nooo, we looove yoouu,,, except.. we,, or,,, "I",, sorta.. actually 'resent' you.. but.. -that's your own fault because I'm only expressing that because of how offensive you are". This IS a place, more like a den it seems like, of darkness. (This is where you attack me back in some indignifying expression of self connected to I)~

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(This is actually simply shielding from shadow, believe it not.]

 

[Sebastian]

Shall read through the posts to this thread later today, - need to cool down after this hellishness...


persecuted , persecuted, and again and again.. and again... more and more, less is most.

 

[Sebastian]

I must deeply admit appologisingly a great error I made towards Thee human behind the avatar fightngwrmwood: Everything under the-line "I love you, give ---disguised a..." was not at all directed in regards to your immoral "dispute-laying-forth" I up until there warded off fiercely (since it was out of the blue... sooorta... (the thread's inquiry IS highly controversial and a very very veery touchy subject and possibility to lots of people, especially here, and especially women (especially those who 100% get what I mean ("close to 100%" rather) - Everything after that line is to ward off all the shitstorm that my (and now I'm here starting to write to the common other's reading this ****-storm-wardingOff"-but-still-not-holding-anyone's-**** so to "speak"), ehm.... - it was after that just warding off everyone's else's aggression and selfrighousness "and THIS is what I think of This poor shady Character disguised as the avatar *Sebastian*, because so many hate me here to such a degree (-yeeeess... I knoow.. You "don't" *wink-wink; )*.. I am in quite the spot now,, but Hey -it lets me build my Armor!


Edit: So I deeeply convey my admition of Great Error about all that... I was going to make it very clear,, but, I didn't remember it in time to convey it clearly (or at all, for that part too....)... and so... because of that You ofcourse thought I was writing in regards to you... and.... because the words were so... "explosive",,, ooor... soo... "horribly forceful... (not in a "beautiful" way),,," I am at great fault here, for I gave you, (by error of not remembering to write it was not in regards to you), a loooooot of **** just there, and still you have it on my behalf in you....
Edit2: So now I am trying to make amends for that, small, but still HUUUGE error (due to it's inevitable consequence..)... I don't think I will be able to make complete amends for it though... So let me just say: I am deeply excusive and 'sorry' for that error and how it impacted you; it was completely undeserved that part. I am indebted now, for a strong blow. Silent treatment also is a blow. Hit me hard and sincere; but if you over-do it too much I shall ward some of the "over-dmg" off; be warned.

Sorry. ---

 

[amadeus2]

Does the Bible anywhere say anywhere at all that Women have the "breath of wind/Spirit" in them?

It doesn't count if Adam got it breathed into him and then Eve was made from his rib, -doesn't count.

Does it anywhere at all say that women have that immortal breath of Life, ooor, how to put it.. U know what I mean.
Is there any mention at all about women being in heaven, ooor, if it says anything at all anywhere which means they have the "the breath of wind/Spirit" in them? Anything at all? Please see if you can find any Scripture which says they do, and if you find any, please write it below.

Thank yuu berry much!

Jesus and his Father are totally cool n stuff, Like ICE.,,Ice Club Soda-ICE (that's some hardcore ICE).

.

Actually the scripture speaks of all of us men (meaning the males and the females) as dead until we obtain the Life which Jesus is. In the Garden of Eden God breathed Life into man (combined man and woman) and then He separated man into two parts. This separation did not take away the life that they did have , which was not the Life they could have had if they had been able to stay and partake of the Tree of Life.

But without considering which of the two (Adam and Eve) was more to blame, both of them sinned against God in their disobedience. Both of them were put outside the garden and no longer had the option of eating of the right Tree.

Life did not become available in the fullness that Jesus is Life [Jesus is the Tree of Life] until Jesus sacrificed Himself for all of us. All of us were and are (to the extent that we have not killed all of our 'old man') beasts indeed. We need to kill all of the beast (or beasts) in us. This goes for every human being (male or female).

 

[Sebastian]

You other guys aren't allowed to strike by that immense expression of fault I just laid forth Too Heer.
-and it doesn't mean that I or anything else I have done here is at fault/injustice/wrong/badly-expressedEtc.

So, that's all for me.

((((((((((Admin; if ye delete any of this ye are at error and are at a poor place of condemnation, if that happen ye are by higher powers dealt by on justice's cause.]]]]]

Over&Over.

*Shields-Up*

May God Help Us all....

Positive-note-End: Baby-Pig playing with a cute fussy string-attached ball (it's aaadoooorable -most heartwarming)



Edit: A post was just made (shall read it after this input): Means the post here above (this post above the Edit I am making hereNow, is going to a bit, atleast, out of sync with the thread - for it was designed to be the in "post-line" of the warding-off+excusing-"linage" just presented -and so now when a different post was made then this post is bound to be faulty&'un-in-sync". I guess that's just the way it has to be-the risk of posts being posted when u are urself writing a post- sorta inevitable when "speaking" in forums on the net (as in real life all is in-sync 'cus; -well u are in the same space and hear when people speak and make moves and this that and the other).. Soooo.... yeah... -im kinda wierd and hold myself to veeery strange ideals and "modes of manner&expression" (call it narcissistic selfish pityful psychologically damaged this that and the worse - it's a price i pay for expressing Myself thissy.)


Edit; and now I'm gone for 2 hours atleast. Embrace Me Heartly for lack of judgmentality and in the service of sync and right -if i may suggest So

Färdig ~4 now,

 

[Sebastian]

Sledgehammers are making 'turn the other cheek' somewhat flawed in a certain Way.

 

[Sebastian]

please have the investigative topic at center when writing here, if I may suggest so.. atleast not Me.. In other words; please, have merciful consideration and write ('read- answer') NOT to Me, (directed for me), but,, instead... put Me out of the equation and write in relation to the question at Hand -as if it had appeared from nowhere, as a tindered fire in a forrest and put sticks and logs and blow on the flame; and leave the maker sitting at the meadow at his leisure

EDIT; except tho for Thee fightngwrmwood - I am at your strike's leisure for I accidentally struck you with great force... sorry again. (Silent 'treatment' is perfect if such is Thy inclination in-dis-Case.)

........

Consideration begged 4, desperately so.

 

[Sebastian]

signed 8 WasteShitfaceSmallDickGeorge U~UU

 

[Sebastian]

Edit: I apologize for beneath to the readers, except amadeus --sorta-- The Post Beneath Is Off-Topic, and only amadeus' reply is wished upon or for or asked by/to-receive.
**rest plz ignore...

amadeus2, Your Light warmth Me ~ the input Ye made was appreciated highly..

I Am putting myself out Here now, I shall appreciate a sincere answer if you find that well&All; Ye think ("believe") by Thy '-intake-of-Holy-this,dat,&D-otha'; Ye believe Genesis bringsi Adam as Primal Men/man;--That He -in Yer Eyes B presented scriptually as Center --[[women (Eve (not women in general term)) as sidekickOor-Helper-Addon or as a "Extra" ; as an Add-On to Adam????? and in that Adam being scriptually laid unto people reading them scriptures, aas, "Primary" in a sense.?-?

'Cus I read: God made the earth and the all the birds and the this that and the heaven and all creeping this and mammals and -like- all; then Adam was sorta center-roled in the midst- With God bringing The man in connection with all creatures for Adam's naming,,, and now here's what I'm sorta revolving around like the cat around the... "bowl of milk..???---(retorical question ^^)- THEN, God saw In Adam he had not Quite what Was Needed, ehm, that,, Man was lacking, he had none in world for His (Adam's) Help and assistance, maybe company and thisThatNtheOther - then HeavenGod made Him(adam) A Helper-Woman.Eve

Hope I am being Clear still enough -despite deplorable writting-Format

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