Who was Jesus, before Being Jesus?

[Garee]

Trinitarians don't believe in 3 Gods. It's only one God with three parts. However there is a hierarchy even with the parts of God.
A father, mother and daughter are one family, they aren't three families. But even a single member of that family, has a family.

Trinitarians believe in multiple gods that make up an earthly family. Mother, brother, sister, father.

The supernatural family is lovingly commanded to call no man on earth Holy Father one is our unseen Holy Father. Christ.

Three is needed to represent the Pagan foundation a queen mother in heaven passed down from the faithless Jewish women who desired equal rites a female deity with full permission from their hen-pecked husbands

Three in the parables is used to denote the end of the manner .

The witness of God demonstrated by the Son of man Jesus is two .The original dynamic dual the Holy Father and Son ministry

Remember he calls us gods to whom scripture comes. In that way can obey the first commandment . . .put God first in your life

John 10:34-36Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;;Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Acts 14:11 And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men.And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.

The pagan foundation Out of sight the eternal . . out of mind. Roman and Greek mythology. In that way we cannot know Christ after the philosophies of dying mankind .

Jerimiah 44.15-17;Then all the men which knew that their wives had burned incense unto other gods, and all the women that stood by, a great multitude, even all the people that dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying, As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken unto thee.;But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth,(Oral tradition of dying mankind) to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.

Two is a company. . three or more a crowd

The dynamic dual the Holy Father and Son team .

 

[B-A-C]

Trinitarians believe in multiple gods that make up an earthly family. Mother, brother, sister, father.

I don't know a single trinitarian that believes this.

The largest Protestant Organization in the World specifically says One God, three persons.

Assemblies of God (USA) Official Web Site | Assemblies of God 16 Fundamental Truths

ag.org

The Southern Baptists also.

The Trinity a practical and not abstract doctrine, essayists in new SBJT assert - The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary

The doctrine of the Trinity is not an esoteric, abstract theory that is unimportant to practical Christianity, but is at the very heart of the Christian life, essayists assert in the latest edition of the Southern Baptist Journal of Theology.

www.sbts.edu

The Methodists also.

Holy Trinity | UMC.org

The Trinity is a doctrine of the church used to illustrate the three equal parts of God: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

www.umc.org

Calvary Chapel

Statement of Faith - Calvary Chapel Association

calvarycca.org

The Foursquare church also.

Beliefs - The Foursquare Church

What we believe Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.Hebrews 13:8 (NKJV) The name: What does “Foursquare” mean?Our name reflects the unchanging ministry of Jesus Christ and our...

www.foursquare.org

The MS Lutheran Church also.

Brief Statement of LCMS Doctrinal Position - The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod

A Brief Statement of the Doctrinal Position of The Lutheran Church--Missouri Synod.

www.lcms.org

The Anglican Church also.

Trinity's Statement of Faith - Trinity Anglican Seminary

Statement of Faith We affirm our belief in historic Christianity as revealed in the Scriptures and summarized in:the three Creeds (the Apostles’, the Nicene ...

tas.edu

The Roman Catholic Church

The Trinity – Catechism of the Catholic Church

www.catholicnewsagency.com

If you add all of these denominations together, we are talking over a billion people believe in the trinity.
One God, three persons.

Nicene Creed | Christianity, History, Councils, & Text | Britannica

Nicene Creed is an ecumenical Christian statement of faith. It is the only ecumenical creed because it is accepted as authoritative by the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, and major Protestant churches.

www.britannica.com

 

[Christ4Ever]

Trinitarians believe in multiple gods that make up an earthly family. Mother, brother, sister, father.

Thanks Brother @B-A-C for your post #122. You beat me to the punch in reply to this.
But again, that is one reason they don't believe in the Trinity because that is what they believe we believe! It just doesn't make sense to them, and in truth, I can understand where they are coming from, but when the Holy Spirit guided me to see "Hierarchy" it finally made sense and I've been at peace ever since with the Trinity being One God.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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Nick
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[Curtis]

Trinitarians believe in multiple gods that make up an earthly family. Mother, brother, sister, father.

Man was made in the image of God and after his likeness. God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and these three are one God.
Man is spirit, soul, and body these three but are one man.

 

[Curtis]

Who was Jesus, before Being Jesus ? ?

Jesus!

Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Jesus created all things, and before he created all things he was "Jesus".

 

[Garee]

Man was made in the image of God and after his likeness. God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and these three are one God.
Man is spirit, soul, and body these three but are one man.

God is not a man as us, , , dying mankind

The Spirit of Christ is of the Holy Father. One spirit one God no created body

Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ

The dynamic dual the Holy Father and Son team

 

[Curtis]

One spirit one God no created body

Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

Does God have a body?

Yes, and His body is Jesus Christ, where all the fullness of the God head dwells.

 

[B-A-C]

1Jn 4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;
1Jn 4:3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.

John 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Luke 24:39 "See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have."

Acts 2:31 he looked ahead and spoke of the resurrection of the Christ, that HE WAS NEITHER ABANDONED TO HADES, NOR DID His flesh SUFFER DECAY.

Rom 1:3 concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh,

2Cor 5:16 Therefore from now on we recognize no one according to the flesh; even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him in this way no longer.

Eph 2:14 For He Himself is our peace, who made both groups into one and broke down the barrier of the dividing wall,
Eph 2:15 by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace,

1Pet 4:1 Therefore, since Christ has suffered in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same purpose, because he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin,

 

[B-A-C]

three or more a crowd

Matt 3:16 After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him,
Matt 3:17 and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased."

1. Jesus in the water.
2. Holy Spirit as a Dove.
3. (Father) Voice from heaven calling Him Son.

Mark 1:10 Immediately coming up out of the water, He saw the heavens opening, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon Him;
Mark 1:11 and a voice came out of the heavens: "You are My beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased."

Luke 3:21 Now when all the people were baptized, Jesus was also baptized, and while He was praying, heaven was opened,
Luke 3:22 and the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, "You are My beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased."

 

[Garee]

Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

Does God have a body?

Yes, and His body is Jesus Christ, where all the fullness of the God head dwells.

God covered their temporal spirits with a coat of dying skin.

This act reminds us that salvation is all the work of God in Jesus Christ. The circumcision of Christ called the bloody husband

Luke 24:39-40;Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.

Ephesians 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

Not a member of a spiritual body. God is one Holy Father or Holy Spirit. Not many gods in the likeness of men

The life of the flesh is in the blood, but that spiritual life is not made up of literal dying flesh and blood

 

[twcstp]

John 17:5​

5&nbsp;And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.


God's Son.