Who Justifieth the Ungodly

[Brightfame52]

@Brightfame52

The Terror of Standing Before God as a False Teacher

Thats what you need to be concerned with

 

[Brightfame52]

To be Justified by Faith,

Thats is when a Justified person comes into a spiritual apprehension/knowledge and enjoyment of the Justification and reconciliation which Christ has wrought for us to God, so by Faith we come to know Spiritually that God is our God, and we are in His favor . Our Faith didn't cause that, but reveals and receives that. 40

 

[KingJ]

To be Justified by Faith,

Thats is when a Justified person comes into a spiritual apprehension/knowledge and enjoyment of the Justification and reconciliation which Christ has wrought for us to God, so by Faith we come to know Spiritually that God is our God, and we are in His favor . Our Faith didn't cause that, but reveals and receives that. 40

You've simply redefined "justified by faith."

The Bible never says justification by faith means becoming aware of a justification that already existed. That's your theological definition, not the biblical one. (The Terror of Standing Before God as a False Teacher)

Romans 5:1 doesn't say, "Therefore, realizing we were already justified..." It says, "Therefore being justified by faith..."

Likewise, Acts 13:39 says, "By him all that believe are justified," not "By him all that believe discover they were already justified."

You're asking me to accept your definition first, then read it back into every passage on justification. Can you provide one verse that defines "justified by faith" as merely becoming aware of a justification that already existed?

 

[KingJ]

Yes it does, I utilized the scripture, i cant help it if you cant receive it.

No, it doesn't.

Quoting Scripture does not automatically prove your interpretation of Scripture. Every false teacher quotes Scripture. The question is whether the passage actually teaches what you claim.

I've repeatedly asked you for one verse that says a person is justified before believing. Instead, you keep quoting passages about election, promise, and heirship, then concluding they teach justification before faith.

That's an inference, not an explicit statement. (The Terror of Standing Before God as a False Teacher)

If your doctrine is biblical, then there should be at least one passage that plainly says people are justified before they believe. Can you produce one?