Are there are any scriptures that instruct infant baptism or adult confirmation?I was baptised as a baby but I was then confirmed at the age of 14/15 which is basically a second baptism because it's when you make the 'adult' decision for yourself to actually be a part of the church.
Now when the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent them Peter and John, who went down and prayed for them, that they might receive the holy Spirit, for it had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Then they laid hands on them and they received the holy Spirit. - Acts 14:17Are there are any scriptures that instruct infant baptism or adult confirmation?
Or are these ceremonies man-made religious rituals?
IMHO, infant baptism is not Biblical. In every case in the Bible when someone is baptized, they are born again first.
"And he took them that very hour of the night and washed their wounds, and immediately he was baptized, he and all his household." - Acts 16:33Some denominations believe that infant baptism washes away original sin. However, that is their tradition and not from the bible. I was Christened when I was a baby, but was baptized by immersion after I was born again. IMHO, again, baptism by immersion is the Biblical way.
He and his family - which would include children, no?
Physical baptism? Id like to think I've already shown a devotion to Jesus to others in my church and friends and family, the physical baptism will occur though when it is time. Probably when I drop a lot of my weight; that way it won't be so dangerous for me.
It's not so much traditions but rather examples that Jesus gave us that we follow. I do not agree sprinkling is a right way, but in her situation it was the only way, one which is NOT Biblical. I believe as I said it was a symbol of a symbol. WE should stay with the example Christ set for us. Do you understand better now?I think it is a shame that the deacons would have looked down on you for that. In fact, I refuse to be a part of any church that places tradition over what God may will for his children. I will not judge them though as that is simply not for me to do. But the thank God that He sent the Holy Spirit to guide us in His will.
I mean no disrespect but I have some issues with some of this thinking, I won't say it is wrong, for who of us really know everything exactly: Proverbs 3:5-6Infant baptism has some value. Prayers are said, blessings are made, at least the parents are going to the church (and hopefully they'll remain or continue to attend). There are "god parents" who are supposed to look out for the spiritual well-being of the child.
But it is not real baptism. 1 Peter 3:21 says water baptism involves an answer of a good conscience:
1 Peter 3:21 "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) "
The word conscience means "with knowledge". A baby does not have the ability to answer, or understand or have the required knowledge to be baptized.
I mean no disrespect but I have some issues with some of this thinking, I won't say it is wrong, for who of us really know everything exactly: Proverbs 3:5-6
- But it is not real baptism. 1 Peter 3:21 says water baptism involves an answer of a good conscience:
What is real baptism?
- I think your saying it is water first then a good conscience toward God.
- Communicating via typed messages is difficult; I always prefer face to face, otherwise there is the inherit problem of "lost in translation". So, please don't let me put words in your mouth. Your saying" it is not real baptism means that some baptism work and some don't work.
- So when they work, you have a change in conscience, a good conscience toward God. Is this change not also synonymous to being "Born Again" and receiving the Holy Ghost in you?
- So when it is not real, can't be the water, because your in it, must be you didn't have a change in conscience toward God. How does that work?
- Here in lies the rub with me. The mind is a complicated thing, who of us is to say, at any given time that a person did this or they did that; it is their conscience not our will for them to have a good one. So, again, it appears to me that it is possible for some water baptisms not to take. What do you do, try-try again? The issue here is what if a person feels no change in there conscience or , much less, there situation of doubt...maybe they are not worthy of salvation, maybe they are not one of the chosen and that God doesn't love them. God forbid, what if they are try again and nothing happens in their mind? Bondage to untruth!
- I have too many times in my life, seen those that are held in bondage that they are not savable: water didn't work, I keep asking for forgiveness everyday but nothing has change in my life, I can't speak in tongues and the list goes on.
- It can and is a beautiful outward expression of your love for God but the water has nothing to do with it.
- A baby does not have the ability to answer, or understand or have the required knowledge to be baptized. So, how are babies saved? Jesus said: Luke 18:16....how do you think that works?
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