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What are your views on Disney?

Discussion in 'Polls' started by Fragrant Grace, Jun 14, 2013.

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Disney is

  1. evil and should be boycotted

    14 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. harmless family entertainment

    11 vote(s)
    39.3%
  3. no opinion

    3 vote(s)
    10.7%
  1. Yes I agree @Mir

    The world is spiralling downwards at a rapid rate.

    A few local things in the tiny area of this planet where I live that have worried/saddened me

    One of our local 'Christian Schools' put on a production of Harry Potter.

    The musicians at a Christian Fellowship Church I occasionally attend was absent for weeks on end as they were all in the cast of the musical show Pippin (which has many sexual inuendos)

    There is such a growing apathy towards the truth.

    Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?
    Psalm 94:16
     
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  2. Blame pastors, ok, but each Christian also has to blame themselves...Its not a pastors responsibility to carry a Christian into a personal relationship with Father...That's up to each person...We each have responsibility...A pastor is a coach not a carrier. If you get off the line, that's your doing. If you get deceived it's because you do not spend enough time in the Word so you can see the counterfeit. We cannot trust our salvation or anything else to a man who is as full of holes as we are, no matter how well intentioned he is. He WILL make mistakes. You get up! You get into the Word, you seek out Fathers stand on everything you encounter..Every thought that enters into your pretty little heads must be measured against the Word...That's your responsibility, not the pastors. When you stand before Father is He going to say "Well done" Or is He going to say "You followed the wrong shepherd. You could have been so much more"
    What I'm saying is that you have to take responsibility for your own decisions, attitudes, and actions...Don't throw them onto your pastors
    If the church is lukewarm You do your part to wake it up...You stand up and praise, you stand against the enemy, not just in the 'Christian polls' but in every word and action you put out. You be the kind of Christian that you believe Christians should be.
     
  3. We (The Revival Fellowship) separate ourselves from mainstream wishy-washy liberal social action humanistic denominations that no longer uphold the truth and
    sanctity of the Word of God. We preach against the deceptive nature of popular culture and promote good Christian parenting. We work with our young people
    and encourage them to exercise discernment in regards to movies and TV, the internet, lifestyle choices, etc...

    Despite our best efforts at teaching young and old alike to keep their eyes on the end prize - the salvation of their souls - many many saints who should know
    better, and many youngies fall away and embrace worldly living. The enemy is omnipresent and very tantalising.

    Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
    For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
    1John 2:15-16

    world > Thayer's Greek Dictionary > G2889 > 7a) the whole circle of earthly goods, endowments riches, advantages, pleasures, etc,
    which although hollow and frail and fleeting, stir desire, seduce from God and are obstacles to the cause of Christ.
     
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  4. Wow Grace! I'm so glad for this forum to see that I'm not alone in this fight against apathy in the church. Your shared scenario is being played out all over our nation with many churches, christian schools & colleges giving sway to the world, as they stay silent and do not address the saints on what it is to be separate from the world and sanctified. I remember myself being a new Christian just broken away from witchcraft & new age to a new life in Christ and the youth group at church never taught on these issues by the youth Pastor or the Pastor of the church, practically everyone in our group was having relations outside of marriage (including our married youth Pastor...he later had to resign). Forward to me having 3 sons, my middle child Holy Ghost filled, is assigned a room at a Christian College w/ a young man studying to become a Pastor (ex-bartender) teaches my son how to make alcoholic drinks and my son graduates drinking and smoking cigars as he never did so before attending....he states he no longer prays in tongues, as he was taught in this non-denominational Christian college that praying in tongues is not for today. He met his wife at this college who graduates as a youth pastor and is a devout Harry Potter & Pokemon fan to this day (no matter what I have shared w/ her)... cause their Pastor at their church (a major denomination) allows for Pokemon go in the church as a reaching out ministry tool...that to me is akin to allowing for witchcraft as a reaching out tool for the church. Rarely hear teaching on II Cor. 6:14-18.
     
  5. The parable of the sower and the seed - 3 out of 4 hearers do not fall into good ground, and bring forth fruit, some an hundredfold,
    some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. Matthew 13:8
    You cannot love the world and worldly doctrines and love our Lord at the same time. One cannot serve two masters.
    That is why in the gospels and the epistles there is such a strong emphasis on preaching separateness, holiness, denying self-will,
    denying deceiving doctrines and the teachings of men over the truth of the scriptures.

    Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
    For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against
    her mother in law.
    And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
    He that loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
    And he that takes not his cross, and follows after me, is not worthy of me.
    He that finds his life shall lose it: and he that loses his life for my sake shall find it.
    Mathew 10:34-39

    It is mainstream and evangelical denominations that put so much time and effort into denying the latter rain and the truth of the
    original Apostolic gospel once delivered unto the saints.
    And yet we prove them all wrong because Mark 16:15-20 is still alive and valid today.
     
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  6. The Word of God is so powerful and cuts right to my heart! I am being blessed with your ministering spirit, and I appreciate it immensely!
     
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  7. That is so sad and shocking @Mir you must be heartbroken regarding your son.

    Disney moulds childrens hearts and minds

    Candy coated evil

    This video says Christians but should include everyone

     
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  8. Wow...I didn't know that Video existed..thanks for sharing Grace!
    Yes my heart is heartbroken, especially for my grand babies being exposed
    to all this, even though they all attend church regularly. I'll have to remember
    your quote "Candy Coated Evil" describes all this perfectly!
     
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  9. Here's another clip on Disney. By Sheila Zilinsky She is a Christian radio host in Billings Mt I think it goes deeper than the first clip.
     
  10. I got as far as 3.52 where she says 'he was, in fact, a sexual pervert and paedophile, which was evident in everything he did.' She doesn't bother with citing any evidence at all. Cheap divisive, mudslinging conspiracy theories.
     
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  11. My friend, you can believe that if you want. The rest is true so why would you not believe this part?
     
  12. Because it's not true
     
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  13. Do you have proof that it's not true?
     
  14. I am not a fan of Disney (am not the age group for it!) - I think if your children are not already believers and show evidence of faith they can easily be taken in.

    I have taken a young believer to Disney on ice once - I didn't choose this, the mum asked me to take her and be her chaperone. Her daughter is actually into Disney and a christian as well but her faith is such that she can see the evil characters for what they are and I've explained to her that the use of magic in whatever form is not good for anyone - and just share with her the Christian solution to character's dilemmas not the magical solutions as they show in the stories.

    I understand why parents boycott Disney its just commercialising the whole magic thing, and subjecting children to it, even before Harry Potter. Frozen was the latest big incarnation of sympathy to witches..I am not sure about Moana - but when the daughter asked me to go see it with her I said nah.

    Instead went with her to see Joseph and the amazing Technicolour Dreamcoat. I think just keep on showing that the Bible has plenty of interesting stories and they are better than Disney ones.
     
  15. You know very well I don't have proof. Nor do I have proof that the moon's not made of cheese, that Jesus Christ was not an enlightened alien, nor that there are no lemonade springs flowing from the Big Rock Candy Mountain. I don't have the tiniest bit of proof that you personally don't creep around under cover of night and torture stray cats. I don't have any proof that sharks can't grow legs, run across land and attack farmers in West Virginia. I don't have any proof that this whole thread is not an elaborate Illuminati conspiracy. I don't have proof...

    We are very slow in waking up to the danger of fake news. We believe in Jesus Christ who says 'the truth will set you free'. Part of honouring truth is to be properly discerning about everything that claims to be truth - whether it's a deep claim about the very nature of God or a simple statement of fact.

    How can we possibly counter the lies of the likes of Disney unless we hold to a high standard of truth?
     
  16. @Bendito @Hekuran
    Dear brothers so this doesn't get further out of hand. Let's agree to disagree.

    One can believe or disbelieve the stories told about Walt Disney the man all one wants. It changes nothing as it pertains to the man. He is now in the hands of God.

    And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment, Hebrews 9:27

    However, what he has left behind as a legacy is open to much debate and criticism. As a believer one must take care of what one introduces into the life of a child, much less ones own eyes and ears.

    So, let's stay focused on what path Disney the Company, then and now produces and sets people on and which seeks approval from all people be they believer or not.

    Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect. Romans 12:2

    With the Love of Christ Jesus.
    YBIC
    Nick
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  17. Being exposed to Disney stories is something unavoidable as you go through childhood these days..its everywhere. You may boycott it in your household but the children will find it through their peers and friends.
    They will hear the songs on radio or through internet and someone will have a princess outfit or lunchbox. They will have cards to swap or any number of merchandise.

    Thinking back to my own childhood I remember some children would get hooked on a movie for a while and want to watch it over and over and over. I think maybe because its like the biggest cartoon producer that it gets a lot of exposure. For me I think I had more of a handle on it cos I didnt believe the fairy tales and none of the characters really spoke to me...but it was other magic type books and tv that I was exposed to that hurt my walk..would you believe that the tv programme Playschool promoted witchcraft to children.

    Wizard of Oz was also a big influence.
     
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  18. I grew up watching Disney and my children watch it as well. It's make believe, imaginary stories, not real. As children they see a very basic good and evil, families, love stories and they know it's not real. I can't shelter them from everything, eventually they are going to be in the world without me constantly there. I'm glad they are exposed to things now while I can be there to add guidance.
     
  19. I was reading this book called...children of las vegas. Growing up in the worlds playground.

    One of the children said that she hated Disneyland because it just primed children for Las Vegas, which is also a make believe world, but for adults.

    I'm not glad children are growing up in that horrible town and being exposed to gambling, drugs and divorce because adults want to throw their lives away living a fantasy. But those children have no choice they are stuck in the middle of a desert.
     
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  20. can I use this?
     
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