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Scriptures pastors never talk about.

We Should ask our LORD where He wants us to go? We go to church to worship our LORD with others who Love our LORD! And too be a blessing too others !Many in churches are unsaved and many are suffering in many ways ? We are the true church ! The place where we go to fellowship is really the house of prayer we join in together ! Something about being with so many in His body worshipping together !

We should support that place the best we can ? I know sometimes lots of money is wasted ? where i go they built a bit bulding with a kit. and dining room where they sell food and have meals for sale one night a week and hired a chef ! they oue millions because of this Big bulding ! They used to have a T.V. program and the bulding was going to be partly a media center ? but i guess that did not bring in the millions they thought it would ?
now in each service they say they need money to pay for this building !

Everyone makes mistakes and that why we Need to be led by the HOLY GHOST and Not our understanding !

Lots go too this church that really love our LORD JESUS and have great testimonies of miracles in there lives and others they have touched !
It a nice church but has flaws ! I think it is mainly led by mans understanding and not by the Holy Ghost ? But i do Love going there anyway ! Thew good out weighs the bad too me !
I would LOVE too see them operate closer to scripture ! I believe GOD could use this group of believers to do a powerful work for our LORD JESUS! I said a few things to the pastor , i believed would help in GOD work in this area 1 He looked me at like i was insane !LOl

I told Him about preaching on fasting and Healing as in James ! They just have one person stand up front after the service to pray for others needs ! that Not what the bible says to do in the church !

Jas_5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
I been healed that way by serious stuff and my daughter also who was either dead or Very close too it ? I know we Must try to obey God Living words as close as we can ?
I found in my life time ? It mainly the Simple act of obeying ! Nothing great about me personally in this weak flesh ! In fact i think many of my brotyhersw and Sisters in the Lord are Much better appearing in there flesh ! I never really liked the weakness of my being in the flesh or even thought much of it ! In my eyes ? With all i seen and God revealed too be ? I should be a man of great faith and i am Not ! Maybe that how my LORD keeps me humble ? Or maybe i am not so weak ? Sometimes i supriz4e my self ? but then again I think it the LORD !

The LORD Will Never leave or forsake Us , once we have truly given our lives to HIM and accepted Him as Our LORD Forever more !

In 1950's to about 1965, before huge flat screen tv, or color TV or cable or Dicsh or Direct,or however you get TV now, Churchwas much different ! Song's were sung and people had their hart in it. Pastors really preached, and named sin, like drinking, smoking and dancng, and the movie show's ! I believe people were more aware of what was sin. Shame was still active back then. Modesty was shown in the way people dressed in Church. In church there was time for tesamonies. Prayer was special time whrere praise, need's and special needs wee made and prayed for by people who felt they wanted to pray, church was a plac of prayer, Wed. night was a real prayer meeting !

Now days, preachers have 10 to 15 minuets to preach and have the alter call and praythe closing prayer. Don't be later because of a football game, or paintball game, or dinner is cooking and if the service is not done by closung time we are walking out. Today church is a time to think we worshiped, and feel good about ourself.

Sunday School had lesson books that each week there where questions to be filled out for the next week. The lessons were designed to go over the Bible by the time a child was in eighth grade they had gone over the whole Bible. Today, they hand out papers and the lessons that don' require anything to do durring the week.


Preacher's often preached one hour or aybe a little more. Now, what cam be preached in 15 minuets? No time for real prayer by the people, church for a few today is the same as back then, but not many. Today so many things that look like worship really are not. I remember the folders that fit in the avrage Bible with the books of the Bible and little boxes for each chapter. As you read each chapter you Xed it out. This served s an encouragement to read the bible and know where you have read and to fill uo the folder and you had read the comp;ete Bible. Not much like that today. Well I have said enough. Blessings


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Pastors really preached, and named sin, like drinking, smoking and dancng, and the movie show's !

How did that work out by the way?
Where is the preaching about unbelief in the one whom God sent.
These very things you mention are pet peeves not sins.
I don't think men expounding pet peeves that agree with our particular peeves is preaching the good news at all.

Where is the power?

2 Peter 1:3 His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.

Once we have the power to overcome unbelief and see him as he is(in us) those roots from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil will dry up.
Anything less is a sin management system and will only prune that tree and help it produce more fruit.
We have spent about 1700 years fertilizing,trimming and pruning that tree by focusing on it and we are simply receiving the bumper crop that one should expect.
Should we now garnish this tree with pet peeves?

Acts 10:38 "You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.

The church will come back into power when power comes back into the church.
 
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How did that work out by the way?
Where is the preaching about unbelief in the one whom God sent.
These very things you mention are pet peeves not sins.
I don't think men expounding pet peeves that agree with our particular peeves is preaching the good news at all.

Where is the power?

2 Peter 1:3 His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.

Once we have the power to overcome unbelief and see him as he is(in us) those roots from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil will dry up.
Anything less is a sin management system and will only prune that tree and help it produce more fruit.
We have spent about 1700 years fertilizing,trimming and pruning that tree by focusing on it and we are simply receiving the bumper crop that one should expect.
Should we now garnish this tree with pet peeves?

Acts 10:38 "You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.

The church will come back into power when power comes back into the church.

Thiscrosshurts: The preachers ? pastors did indeed preach Jesys Christ. That was always the main focus and that is one reason there were so many going into the Ministery then. BIOLA was one Bible Colledge that was very full preparing people for ministry. Always Jesus is the reason for having a service to WORSHIP Jesus Christ. I must have made that out very clearly,,,sorry>

As for the drinking, smoking and dancing and movie shows, I will still say the first two are stll sins and the last two surely can be pure garbage. Some movies are christian, and really a god send. Blessings
 
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As for the drinking, smoking and dancing and movie shows, I will still say the first two are stll sins and the last two surely can be pure garbage. Some movies are christian, and really a god send. Blessings
I would agree since whatever is not of faith is sin.
It would be a sin for you but not for someone who does not believe that it is sin.

Either way the focus on sin only glorifies sin and focus on Jesus glorifies the one who sent him.
Peter walked on water by focusing on Jesus not the waves.

Romans 7:10 I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death.
 
And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding. Jeremiah 3:15

God gives pastors that follow Him. Problem is many churches have pastors not given by God. They end up as the pastor because they sound good, have a reputation or other reasons.

Some may turn from God after they are appointed, however God will deal them. If a pastor is not following God our spirit should warn us and we should get out.

For the pastors are become brutish, and have not sought the Lord: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered. Jeremiah 10:21

The wind shall eat up all thy pastors, and thy lovers shall go into captivity: surely then shalt thou be ashamed and confounded for all thy wickedness. Jeremiah 22:22

Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the Lord. Jeremiah 23:1

Therefore thus saith the Lord God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the Lord. Jeremiah 23:2
 
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