Quran A false Writing

[Garee]

Deep seeker, I have a friend who is a muslim. They aren't even encouraged to ask questions of the quran until they reach Iman status. Why do you think this is? Could it be because there are a lot of discrepancies in the quran? It's also written from the perspective of Ishmael, Isaac's half-brother, is considered the father of the Arabs in Islamic tradition.

Amen

Iman status?

God is not the author of racism. His chosen people as inward born-again Jews They are used in parables. .. not chosen race as murderer, prejudger destroying character like Jonas the racist that resisting preaching the gospel wanted to die rather than admit racism is sin against God .

Not under this worlds government controls as if in the place of eternal God. They promote the sin of racism, misogynism, transmigration.. . . the returning to the flesh reincarnation a Pagan foundation ."out of sight out of mind". No God in their hard heart

The new born again creature order. . no male or female Jew, nor gentile.

I would offer Ishmael (God hears) the first born of a slave woman was given the second born again blessing of God in the same way as Issac (God laughs)

The parable of the second born, the spiritual living seed (Christ) Abel and not fleshly first born dying seed. Cain

That second born seed passed down from Abel to Enos to Abram (the father of one family) to his new born again name Abraham the Holy Father of all nations. The seed ended with Jesus the Son of man .

He has no fleshly offspring. Neither Jewish, Gentile or Muslim

 

[Deep Seeker]

I think you just blew up your assumption meter.

(And you sound like a chewing gum commercial.)

 

[Deep Seeker]

I have Two Friends who are Muslim. I have had some very good, deep conversations with Them; I have also learned from Them.

I, In My younger years, sought to learn about God. I have spent the better part of My life continuing to learn more. Thanks be to The Spirit Of God, I have learned much. However; no matter how much One learns of The Bible scriptures; more need be leaned!

I once had a conversation with a person who said to Me; "The Quran is a bad book". I* then asked Him; Have You read It " To which He said NO!
I then said "How then, can You say that? No answer was received!

I wonder how many still make such statements about The Quran who have not read IT?

DeepSeeker

 

[Deep Seeker]

I would like to see comments on This Question.

Was The Garden Of Eden an earthy place, or was It a heavenly place?

What do you base Your answer on ?

DeepSeker

 

[Leumas]

Was The Garden Of Eden an earthy place, or was It a heavenly place?

Both

 

[Leumas]

What do you base Your answer on ?

The mysteries of God.
The mysteries of the Kingdom of heaven.

I know them.

 

[B-A-C]

Was The Garden Of Eden an earthy place, or was It a heavenly place?

Earthly.

Gen 2
10 Now a river flowed out of Eden to water the garden; and from there it divided and became four rivers.
11 The name of the first is Pishon; it flows around the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold.
12 The gold of that land is good; the bdellium and the onyx stone are there.
13 The name of the second river is Gihon; it flows around the whole land of Cush.
14 The name of the third river is Tigris; it flows east of Assyria. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.

The Tigris and Euphrates exist today and are well known rivers in the middle east.

The Pishon and Gihon aren't known for sure, but some speculate the Gihon could be the Nile.

 

[Rhema]

I wonder how many still make such statements about The Quran who have not read IT?

Most people rely upon their pastors or other experts who have read the book and render their opinions.

The problem with Islam is the exact same problem as with Judaism. Both rely upon human willpower to achieve Righteousness. The Gospel of Jesus provides that the Holy Spirit is to indwell a person, and it the Spirit that cleanses us from all unrighteousness.

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Was The Garden Of Eden an earthy place, or was It a heavenly place?

What do you base Your answer on ?

An actual physical place on Earth.

Not much more to comment on than that.

Rhema

 

[Deep Seeker]

Both

The Garden Of Eden.
As for My lack of total knowledge, I think that The Garden Of Eden was a heavenly realm.
I think that from My years of study of both, The Bible, Quran, and other early writings.
However, I do not possess all knowledge ether!
I have been given some though.

DeepSeeker

 

[Deep Seeker]

I ask this.
What is the gospel of, The Kingdom of Heaven, and who was It for?

What is the gospel of The Kingdom of God, and is It for?

Why the Two of Them ?

 

[Garee]

The Garden Of Eden.
As for My lack of total knowledge, I think that The Garden Of Eden was a heavenly realm.
I think that from My years of study of both, The Bible, Quran, and other early writings.
However, I do not possess all knowledge ether!
I have been given some though.

DeepSeeker

Eden Garden city.

Cities are used as demonyms "people known by location" Used to describe the bride of Christ the church Like the name the father renamed named his bride of all the nations Christians. . . residents of the city of Christ named after her husband Christ.

Three heavens (dwelling place) The first heaven is our immediate atmosphere. The second heaven is where the sun, moon, and stars exist. The third heaven is where God dwells above the other two. Known as the heaven of heavens or Paradice

The third heaven was heaven on earth until the Lord saw false pride in the heart of Lucifer. The glory of the third dwelling place left at the end of day three.

Three denoting the end of the matter https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=7e26...dHkuY29tL3RoZS0zLWxldmVscy1vZi1oZWF2ZW4&ntb=1

 

[Deep Seeker]

If Cain and Abel were the first two sons of Adan and Eve; that does not mean They were the first Ones on Earth!
That, however, seems to be the general acceptance.
If that is true; then where did Cain's wife come from?

Why then is Adam and Eve taught to be the first humans on Earth?

DeepoSeeker

 

[Deep Seeker]

Why is The Book Of Revelation so misunderstood and misread?
The Late, Great, Planet Earth; is still, Here ! !

 

[th1bill]

If Cain and Abel were the first two sons of Adan and Eve; that does not mean They were the first Ones on Earth!
That, however, seems to be the general acceptance.
If that is true; then where did Cain's wife come from?

Why then is Adam and Eve taught to be the first humans on Earth?

DeepoSeeker

There is no timeline to work with, but we are not forbidden from marriage of our sisters until the Hebrews were rescued from Egypt.

The prohibited marriages in Leviticus are to your father or mother [18:7], your father’s wife [18:8], your sister [18:9], your grandchild [18:10], your half-sister [18:11], your aunt [18:12-14], your daughter-in-law [18:15], your sister-in-law [18:16, 18], a mother and her daughter or granddaughter [18:17], or a married woman [18:20]. The inhabitants of Canaan had defiled their land by committing these abominations [Lev 18:24-29].

Logic screams that he married one of his sisters; they were the only females available, short of another miracle by Yehovah God.

God established these ordinances while Israel was still wandering in the desert.

 

[Brad Huber]

There is no timeline to work with, but we are not forbidden from marriage of our sisters until the Hebrews were rescued from Egypt.

The prohibited marriages in Leviticus are to your father or mother [18:7], your father’s wife [18:8], your sister [18:9], your grandchild [18:10], your half-sister [18:11], your aunt [18:12-14], your daughter-in-law [18:15], your sister-in-law [18:16, 18], a mother and her daughter or granddaughter [18:17], or a married woman [18:20]. The inhabitants of Canaan had defiled their land by committing these abominations [Lev 18:24-29].

Logic screams that he married one of his sisters; they were the only females available, short of another miracle by Yehovah God.

God established these ordinances while Israel was still wandering in the desert.

One account said that eve having lost one son to death and the other cast out, grieved and went out to be with cain and give him children and then eventually went back to adam. Not saying its true, but possible I suppose.

 

[Garee]

I have Two Friends who are Muslim. I have had some very good, deep conversations with Them; I have also learned from Them.

I, In My younger years, sought to learn about God. I have spent the better part of My life continuing to learn more. Thanks be to The Spirit Of God, I have learned much. However; no matter how much One learns of The Bible scriptures; more need be leaned!

I once had a conversation with a person who said to Me; "The Quran is a bad book". I* then asked Him; Have You read It " To which He said NO!
I then said "How then, can You say that? No answer was received!

I wonder how many still make such statements about The Quran who have not read IT?

DeepSeeker

I would think as many that obey the warning not to add or subtract from sola scriptura.

God has not given the world any new revelations for over 2000 years

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

 

[Deep Seeker]

There is no timeline to work with, but we are not forbidden from marriage of our sisters until the Hebrews were rescued from Egypt.

The prohibited marriages in Leviticus are to your father or mother [18:7], your father’s wife [18:8], your sister [18:9], your grandchild [18:10], your half-sister [18:11], your aunt [18:12-14], your daughter-in-law [18:15], your sister-in-law [18:16, 18], a mother and her daughter or granddaughter [18:17], or a married woman [18:20]. The inhabitants of Canaan had defiled their land by committing these abominations [Lev 18:24-29].

Logic screams that he married one of his sisters; they were the only females available, short of another miracle by Yehovah God.

God established these ordinances while Israel was still wandering in the desert.

The mysteries of God.
The mysteries of the Kingdom of heaven.

I know them.

Most people rely upon their pastors or other experts who have read the book and render their opinions.

The problem with Islam is the exact same problem as with Judaism. Both rely upon human willpower to achieve Righteousness. The Gospel of Jesus provides that the Holy Spirit is to indwell a person, and it the Spirit that cleanses us from all unrighteousness.

Rhema

RHEMA
I would like to hear YOUR view on what You believe. Indeed, humans were given a will; however, They were also given a mind to think with.
Let The One who has all the correct answers stand forth!
Let Those who are truly trying to help their fellow human Beings do so.
Let The Spirit of The Elohim reign!
LET THERE BE LIGHT !

DeepSeeker

 

[Deep Seeker]

All The Names of the People OF Isreal a message in Them. Line them up, and look at what each One has to say.

DeepSeeker

 

[Leumas]

I ask this.
What is the gospel of, The Kingdom of Heaven, and who was It for?

What is the gospel of The Kingdom of God, and is It for?

Why the Two of Them ?

One is spiritual and the other is physical
The gospel for either one of them
is the owner's manual to them