Paul - the apostle.

[The Gospel of Christ]

So now you're telling me
that the Holy Ghost
Wrote the 66 books of the Bible
Alright
We will do it your way

The Holy Ghost wrote
These words
in the first book of John
Chapter 2 verse 27
But the anointing which you
have received of him abideth in you
and you need not that any man teach
you but as the same anointing teaches
you of all things and is true and is no lie
and even as it has taught you you shall
abide in him.

I guess you do need
the preaching of Paul
You do not have the anointing
And it does not abide in you.

Ah yes, the classic move: rip one verse out of context, weaponize it like a parroted spell, and pretend the rest of Scripture doesn’t exist. You quote 1 John 2:27 like it’s some mystical license to ignore apostles, reject doctrine, and crown yourself Pope of your own feelings. But funny how John — the same man who wrote that verse — also says:

“We are of God. He that knows God hears us; he that is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.”
(1 John 4:6)

That’s plural, by the way — “us.”
As in, the apostles.
As in, Paul included.

You want to quote the Holy Ghost? Let’s do that.

The Holy Ghost said:
“Separate unto me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.”
(Acts 13:2)

The Holy Ghost said:
“Paul, an apostle — not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father...”
(Galatians 1:1)

And the Holy Ghost said — through Peter, no less:
“Our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given unto him, has written to you... as also in all his epistles... the Scriptures.”
(2 Peter 3:15–16)

So yes — the Holy Ghost did write the Bible. Including Paul’s letters.
And right now, you're the one rejecting them.
You don’t have the anointing. You have John Nelson Darby & Scofield.

You rail against teachers while building your theology on secondhand footnotes from Darby and some rogue YouTuber. You quote one verse while sawing off the legs of the entire apostolic foundation.

Christ didn’t die so you could play solo prophet with no accountability.

He built a Body, he sent apostles and he gave us His Word.
And the same Spirit you claim to hear already spoke through them.

You just don’t like what He said.

Let’s be absolutely clear —

Not one apostle.
Not one early Church Father.
Not Peter, not John.
Not Ignatius, not Polycarp, not Irenaeus, not Clement, not Justin Martyr —
none of them believed the Dispensationalist garbage you're preaching.

Not a single one of them taught a dual-covenant heresy.
Not one of them carved out some ethnic exception clause for a Christ-rejecting Israel made up of Gentile, Khazar & Russian 8th century converts.
Not one preached that salvation could be inherited through bloodline, land deeds, or geopolitical favoritism.

They didn’t worship dirt.
They didn’t bow to flags.
And they didn’t call the enemies of Christ “God’s chosen people.”

That came later — from the poisoned pen of Scofield, funded by Zionist money, and baptized by a compromised church desperate to trade its cross for a counterfeit crown. Your theology didn’t come from the Upper Room.
It came from Oxford Press and a Zionist checkbook in 1909.

And I’ll tell you this —
If Peter, John, Ignatius, Polycarp, Irenaeus, Clement, and Justin Martyr were running the Pentagon right now, they’d blast the Gentile, Christ-hating false Jews squatting in the Holy Land straight back to Hell where they came from.

One look at that blue-and-white banner, waving the demonic sigil of the Star of Rephan over Jerusalem, and they would’ve screamed, fallen to their knees, and torn their robes in horror.

Because they would’ve immediately recognized what today’s deceived church refuses to see —
These are the “false Jews” of Revelation.
The ones “who say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.”
(Rev 2:9, 3:9)

They knew what you’ve forgotten:
The New Covenant didn’t preserve the temple — it replaced it.
The Gospel didn’t extend the Old — it fulfilled it.
And the Kingdom of God isn’t waiting to be rebuilt in the Middle East — it already reigns in the Body of Christ.

No exceptions, no flags, no ethnicity.
Just the Cross — or judgment.

 

[Leumas]

Ah yes, the classic move: rip one verse out of context, weaponize it like a parroted spell, and pretend the rest of Scripture doesn’t exist. You quote 1 John 2:27 like it’s some mystical license to ignore apostles, reject doctrine, and crown yourself Pope of your own feelings. But funny how John — the same man who wrote that verse — also says:

“We are of God. He that knows God hears us; he that is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.”
(1 John 4:6)

That’s plural, by the way — “us.”
As in, the apostles.
As in, Paul included.

You want to quote the Holy Ghost? Let’s do that.

The Holy Ghost said:
“Separate unto me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.”
(Acts 13:2)

The Holy Ghost said:
“Paul, an apostle — not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father...”
(Galatians 1:1)

And the Holy Ghost said — through Peter, no less:
“Our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given unto him, has written to you... as also in all his epistles... the Scriptures.”
(2 Peter 3:15–16)

So yes — the Holy Ghost did write the Bible. Including Paul’s letters.
And right now, you're the one rejecting them.
You don’t have the anointing. You have John Nelson Darby & Scofield.

You rail against teachers while building your theology on secondhand footnotes from Darby and some rogue YouTuber. You quote one verse while sawing off the legs of the entire apostolic foundation.

Christ didn’t die so you could play solo prophet with no accountability.

He built a Body, he sent apostles and he gave us His Word.
And the same Spirit you claim to hear already spoke through them.

You just don’t like what He said.

Let’s be absolutely clear —

Not one apostle.
Not one early Church Father.
Not Peter. Not John.
Not Ignatius, not Polycarp, not Irenaeus, not Clement, not Justin Martyr —
none of them believed the Dispensationalist garbage you're preaching.

Not a single one of them taught a dual-covenant heresy.
Not one of them carved out some ethnic exception clause for a Christ-rejecting Israel made up of Gentile, Khazar & Russian 8th century converts.
Not one preached that salvation could be inherited through bloodline, land deeds, or geopolitical favoritism.

They didn’t worship dirt.
They didn’t bow to flags.
And they didn’t call the enemies of Christ “God’s chosen people.”

That came later — from the poisoned pen of Scofield, funded by Zionist money, and baptized by a compromised church desperate to trade its cross for a counterfeit crown. Your theology didn’t come from the Upper Room.
It came from Oxford Press and a Zionist checkbook in 1909.

And I’ll tell you this —
If Peter, John, Ignatius, Polycarp, Irenaeus, Clement, and Justin Martyr were running the Pentagon right now, they’d blast the Gentile, Christ-hating false Jews squatting in the Holy Land straight back to Hell where they came from.

Because they knew what you’ve forgotten:
The Body of Christ is Israel. And no one enters the Kingdom except through the blood of the Lamb.

No exceptions. No flags. No ethnicity.
Just the Cross — or judgment.

But the anointing which you
have received of him abideth in you
and you need not that any man teach
you but as the same anointing teaches
you of all things and is true and is no lie
and even as it has taught you you shall
abide in him.

Does the anointing abideth in you
As written chapter 2 verse 27
the book 1 John?

Yes or no?

And if you do not answer with a yes
Or not at all or with any other answer other than a yes
It will be counted as a no.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Dear Brother, @B-A-C
Thanks for putting together this thread on Saul/Paul
Of course there will always be naysayers for him as an Apostle, as there are for anything found in Scripture to include the books contained therein. (shrug)

I take the account of Luke with no issue. He would probably be considered one of the greatest historians if not the greatest, if not for his roots in Christianity. His writings are still used by many archeologists because of his preciseness/descriptive nature of what he wrote.

Thanks again brother.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

But the anointing which you
have received of him abideth in you
and you need not that any man teach
you but as the same anointing teaches
you of all things and is true and is no lie
and even as it has taught you you shall
abide in him.

Does the anointing abideth in you
As written chapter 2 verse 27
the book 1 John?

Yes or no?

And if you do not answer with a yes
Or not at all or with any other answer other than a yes
It will be counted as a no.

Ah yes — the old Dispensationalist Jedi mind trick.

You quote one verse like it’s a spell, rip it from all context, and then demand a “yes” or “no” answer to a trap you don’t even understand.

1 John 2:27 says the anointing teaches you — not that it isolates you.
It doesn’t say, “ignore all teaching.”
It doesn’t say, “abandon doctrine, ignore apostles, and invent your own gospel.”
In fact, the verse assumes you’ve been taught the real Gospel —
and warns you not to stray from it.

Which Gospel?
The one delivered through the apostles, confirmed by the Holy Ghost, and consistent with the whole counsel of Scripture.

Let’s go to John again — same author, same Holy Spirit:

“We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us;
he that is not of God heareth not us.
Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.”
(1 John 4:6)

That’s plural — “us.”
Who’s “us”? The apostles.
And yes — Paul included.

“Separate unto me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.”
(Acts 13:2 — spoken by the Holy Ghost)

“Paul, an apostle — not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father...”
(Galatians 1:1)

“Our beloved brother Paul... in all his epistles... the Scriptures.”
(2 Peter 3:15–16 — spoken by Peter)

So yes — the anointing is real.
But it doesn’t lead you into Scofield and Darby.

It leads you into the truth already revealed — through the apostles, by the Spirit, and confirmed by the Word.

You don’t get to crown yourself pope of your feelings.
You don’t get to override 2,000 years of faithful doctrine with one cherry-picked verse.
You don’t get to ignore the Holy Ghost when He speaks through Scripture — and then pretend you're following Him.

So to answer your little gotcha trap:
Yes — the anointing abides.
And it’s telling you to repent.

Because if your “anointing” leads you to deny Paul, reject doctrine, and invent a gospel where Christ plays second fiddle to the modern state of False Israel™ — then what you’re hearing isn’t the Holy Ghost.
It’s the Dragon, wearing church clothes.

Go here, read and repent.. Try to save your soul from eternal damnation.
Misled Evangelicals and the Synagogue of Satan

 

[Rhema]

2 Timothy 3
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

That's not what is written. It is an evil and false translation by brainwashed religious people.

Here is what is written -

και οτι απο βρεφους τα ιερα γραμματα οιδας τα δυναμενα σε σοφισαι εις σωτηριαν δια πιστεως της εν χριστω ιησου πασα γραφη θεοπνευστος και ωφελιμος προς διδασκαλιαν προς ελεγχον προς επανορθωσιν προς παιδειαν την εν δικαιοσυνη ινα αρτιος η ο του θεου ανθρωπος προς παν εργον αγαθον εξηρτισμενος​

2 Tim 3:15-17

And when you can read Greek, you will realize that you've been lied to.

Jesus chose Paul as his "chosen vessel" (Acts :15) to preach the Gospel of the Grace of God.

Paul was not the Son of God sent to bring the Gospel to all Mankind. Paul is not, nor ever was Jesus.

Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.​

- Mark 1:14-15 KJV

If Jesus came preaching the Gospel, then the Gospel is what Jesus preached, and none other. Period. NO OTHER Gospel should or can be preached than that which was brought by the Son of God. Any other Gospel than what Jesus preached is heresy. Period.

If you do not trust Scripture and doubt the Gospel message revealed to Paul, you wouldn't understand how to be saved.

Jesus is our savior, not Paul.

Do you think Jesus was so inept and stupid as to be unable to bring the Gospel message to all Mankind, and that he was unable to ensure that his Twelve could understand what Jesus taught and then deliver a saving Gospel message?

That's pure heresy to say that only Paul understood and only people who follow Paul can be saved.

If you do not trust Jesus and doubt the Gospel that HE preached, you are lost dear sir. Utterly lost, and have denied Jesus before men.

Also, you will be judged by what you did with Paul's gospel, and any other Gospel to be saved is Galatians 1:8

Paul wrote that. Jesus ever said anything remotely similar. It's not part of the teaching of Jesus.

Paul is teaching you to curse your enemies, where Jesus said to bless them that curse you. Who will YOU follow?

You have denied Jesus before men. And Jesus will deny you before the Father.

So, if you ignore most of the New Testament, how would you answer what saves you? and what keeps you saved?

One doesn't need "most of the New Testament" to answer the question "what saves you." The answer is easy.

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.​

- Mark 16:15-16 KJV

See? Nothing said about Paul at all. Are you saying that the words of Jesus are insufficient? Inadequate? Wrong?

The obvious question, then, though, is - what is one to believe? The simple answer is that one should believeth what Jesus taught. So, if you ignore the LOGOS (Teachings) of Jesus, how would you answer what saves you?

Jesus was raised from the dead to prove to all mankind that the Teachings HE (and He alone) proclaimed is truly the Word of God.

Obedience to the Teachings of Jesus saves you. Period.

And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:​

- Luke 6:46-47 KJV

Do you doeth them? Do you even hearth them? Or are you listening to a different voice called Paul? Even Paul (at the start of his ministry) commanded YOU to listen to Jesus Teachings:

Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:​

- Acts 13:38 KJV

Jesus preached how one's sins get forgiven. Not Paul, not Moses, not the Levites, not Abraham. And if your sins are forgiven, how are you not saved?

Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.​

- Acts 2:37-38 KJV

and what keeps you saved?

I have been sealed by the gift of the Holy Ghost (see scripture above). And I let what I heard from the beginning abide in me. That Jesus was sent by God to preach the Gospel for the salvation of all mankind.

Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you will abide in the Son and in the Father.​

- 1 John 2:24 NRSV

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.​

- John 15:10 KJV

Do you keep the commandments of Jesus? One would hope so because:

Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.​

- John 8:51 KJV

Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.​

- John 7:16-18 KJV

Do you believe that which Jesus taught? (And obey these teachings?) Or do you believe what people teach that Paul taught (where obedience is irrelevant)? (There is a difference)

So, if you ignore most of the New Testament, how would you answer what saves you? and what keeps you saved?

So why do you think that your sins are forgiven? How did you become saved? I truly would like to know.

In the truth of the Teachings of Jesus,
Rhema

 

[Seethat]

That's not what is written. It is an evil and false translation by brainwashed religious people.

Here is what is written -

και οτι απο βρεφους τα ιερα γραμματα οιδας τα δυναμενα σε σοφισαι εις σωτηριαν δια πιστεως της εν χριστω ιησου πασα γραφη θεοπνευστος και ωφελιμος προς διδασκαλιαν προς ελεγχον προς επανορθωσιν προς παιδειαν την εν δικαιοσυνη ινα αρτιος η ο του θεου ανθρωπος προς παν εργον αγαθον εξηρτισμενος2 Tim 3:15-17

And when you can read Greek, you will realize that you've been lied to.

It is the authorized English version English people have used for 100s of years to understand how to be saved, You cannot read greek so you definitely don't know Greek better than the translators you just use that an an excuse to deny the bible and call Scripture evil and false ,So that is your first character marker

Paul was not the Son of God sent to bring the Gospel to all Mankind. Paul is not, nor ever was Jesus.

Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.- Mark 1:14-15 KJV

If Jesus came preaching the Gospel, then the Gospel is what Jesus preached, and none other. Period. NO OTHER Gospel should or can be preached than that which was brought by the Son of God. Any other Gospel than what Jesus preached is heresy. Period.

That is insane to claim Paul was Jesus I do not think you are a sane person, The Gospel is Good news, Jesus is the Good news, the Gospel to be saved in the time of the Gentiles is that Jesus died for our sins rose from the grave and ascended to heaven Paul taught the other deciples about this as jesus hadn't died when the twelve where following him on earth

Jesus is our savior, not Paul.

Do you think Jesus was so inept and stupid as to be unable to bring the Gospel message to all Mankind, and that he was unable to ensure that his Twelve could understand what Jesus taught and then deliver a saving Gospel message?

That's pure heresy to say that only Paul understood and only people who follow Paul can be saved.

If you do not trust Jesus and doubt the Gospel that HE preached, you are lost dear sir. Utterly lost, and have denied Jesus before men.

Again you use false arguments to accuse, you come up with these insane ideas and use them to bear false witness, its been an accuser of the brethren, Jesus is the only Saviour, he is the Christ, the son of the living God

Paul wrote that. Jesus ever said anything remotely similar. It's not part of the teaching of Jesus.

Paul is teaching you to curse your enemies, where Jesus said to bless them that curse you. Who will YOU follow?

You have denied Jesus before men. And Jesus will deny you before the Father.

Luckily you have no authority and are not very sane but Again you are just denying the scripture as you do a lot, and are been an accuser

One doesn't need "most of the New Testament" to answer the question "what saves you." The answer is easy.

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.- Mark 16:15-16 KJV

See? Nothing said about Paul at all. Are you saying that the words of Jesus are insufficient? Inadequate? Wrong?

The obvious question, then, though, is - what is one to believe? The simple answer is that one should believeth what Jesus taught. So, if you ignore the LOGOS (Teachings) of Jesus, how would you answer what saves you?

Jesus was raised from the dead to prove to all mankind that the Teachings HE (and He alone) proclaimed is truly the Word of God.

Obedience to the Teachings of Jesus saves you. Period.

And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:- Luke 6:46-47 KJV

Do you doeth them? Do you even hearth them? Or are you listening to a different voice called Paul? Even Paul (at the start of his ministry) commanded YOU to listen to Jesus Teachings:

Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:- Acts 13:38 KJV

Jesus preached how one's sins get forgiven. Not Paul, not Moses, not the Levites, not Abraham. And if your sins are forgiven, how are you not saved?

Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.- Acts 2:37-38 KJV

Lol your answer to what saves is to quote baptism, are you putting your salvation on water? do you think water is your saviour? when you respond to what saves you you quote baptism....I'm sensing a cult What denomination are you?

have been sealed by the gift of the Holy Ghost (see scripture above). And I let what I heard from the beginning abide in me. That Jesus was sent by God to preach the Gospel for the salvation of all mankind.

Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you will abide in the Son and in the Father.- 1 John 2:24 NRSV

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.- John 15:10 KJV

Do you keep the commandments of Jesus? One would hope so because:

Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.- John 8:51 KJV

Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.- John 7:16-18 KJV

Do you believe that which Jesus taught? (And obey these teachings?) Or do you believe what people teach that Paul taught (where obedience is irrelevant)? (There is a difference)

The Holy Spirit teaches all truth so you wouldn't be denying the bible denying the Gospel and denying what Paul taught if that was true, but that is not the test, the test is have you received Jesus inside you?

So why do you think that your sins are forgiven? How did you become saved? I truly would like to know.

In the truth of the Teachings of Jesus,
Rhema

There is only way way your sins can be forgiven and you haven't spoken about it, all you have done is bring doubt in the bible, accuse constantly, deny the Gospel Paul revealed that we are saved by and will be judged by and couldn't explain what saves you, those all been facts what does that make you sound like?

 

[Seethat]

Jesus is our savior, not Paul.

Do you think Jesus was so inept and stupid as to be unable to bring the Gospel message to all Mankind, and that he was unable to ensure that his Twelve could understand what Jesus taught and then deliver a saving Gospel message?

That's pure heresy to say that only Paul understood and only people who follow Paul can be saved.

If you do not trust Jesus and doubt the Gospel that HE preached, you are lost dear sir. Utterly lost, and have denied Jesus before men.

I will prolly expound on your comments later when i have more time, but your problem is with scripture

Jesus revealed his Gospel to Paul from heaven, Paul called it his Gospel, Scripture says you will be judged by the Gospel given to Paul, they are all scripture verses your problem and accusation is against Scripture

 

[Christ4Ever]

2 Timothy 3:15-17 The Interlinear Greek-English New Testament
and that from a babe sacred letters thou knowest, the [ones] being able thee to make wise to salvation through faith - in Christ Jesus. Every scripture [is] God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction - in righteousness, in order that fitted may be the - of God man, for every work good having been furnished.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
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[Christ4Ever]

Dear Brothers, @Rhema @Seethat
Go to your corners and take a breath.
When you start questioning another's salvation, and mental health, you've gone beyond having a discussion that will produce anything resembling fruitful.

I do not want to, but if it becomes necessary, I will lock you both out from replying to this thread.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[Seethat]

Paul wrote that. Jesus ever said anything remotely similar. It's not part of the teaching of Jesus.

In response to Scripture

And when Quoting 2 Timothy 3:15

That's not what is written. It is an evil and false translation by brainwashed religious people.

In response to the authorized kjv...Denying and mocking Scripture is ok here?

 

[Christ4Ever]

and invent a gospel where Christ plays second fiddle to the modern state of False Israel

If you had not included the above, I would have liked it and agreed with you brother. Adding the above was irrelevant to the discussion about Paul and addressing the individual in question.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

If you had not included the above, I would have liked it and agreed with you brother. Adding the above was irrelevant to the discussion about Paul and addressing the individual in question.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

Nick, the reason I mentioned False Israel is because that deception is central to why so many believers today reject Paul, butcher prophecy, and twist the Gospel. You may not see it yet — but when you confuse a Christ-rejecting political state with the fulfillment of God’s promises, you're already standing on the wrong foundation.

The tragedy is, you didn’t even recognize how relevant it is.

The Body of Christ is Israel.
Not the UN-created Rothschild-backed regime. Not those who deny the Son. Not a bloodline without faith.
And Scripture makes it clear:

“They are not all Israel who are of Israel…” (Romans 9:6)
“If you are in Christ, you are Abraham’s seed.” (Galatians 3:29)

Those aren’t heresies — they’re God’s correction to the heresies.

And here’s the hard truth that every Christian needs to hear:

If you even acknowledge that Antichrist, UN/Rothschild, manufactured abomination in the Middle East as “Israel,”
you are openly denying that Jesus is the Messiah.
You are rejecting His fulfilled covenant.
You are aligning with those who deny the Son — and by doing so,
you anger the Father.

“Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father.” (1 John 2:23)

You're not neutral.
You're not “blessing Israel”, Israel is the Body of Christ.
You're blessing a counterfeit made of dirt.
You're siding with the spirit of Antichrist and calling it holy.

And yes — doing that puts your soul in eternal danger.
Because you’re not confessing Christ — you’re confessing a lie, just like the Jews who rejected Him.

This isn’t political. It’s Gospel. And it matters more than you know.

Brother, I say this in love:
If you don’t know who the true Israel is, you won’t see who the Antichrist is either.

Wake up before it’s too late.

 

[Rhema]

It is the authorized English version English people have used for 100s of years to understand how to be saved,

The term "authorized" meant the printer was given authorization to print the KJV by the crown. That's all it meant. And the printer put that word on the cover to increase sales of the book. (Nuff said.)

But within the Protestant world of 1611, no one understood the Koine dialect of the Greek text of the New Testament. I provide as proof:

“One man is to be given the credit for the discovery of the Koine – a German pastor named Adolf Deissmann. Even though one or two perceptive scholars had noted the true character of NT Greek as early as the middle of the nineteenth century, their statements made no impression on general opinion. Deissmann, on a visit to a friend in Marburg, found a volume of Greek papyri from Egypt, and leafing through this publication, he was struck by the similarity to the Greek of the NT. He followed up this observation with continued study, and his publications of his findings finally led to general acceptance of the position that the peculiarities of the Greek NT were, for the most part, to be explained by reference to the nonliterary Greek, the popular colloquial language of the period. He first published his results in two volumes of Bible Studies (1895, 1897) and later on in the justly popular Life from the Ancient East (1908).”​

- The Interpreter’s Dictionary of the Bible, pg. 486.​

"...in 1895, Adolf Deissmann published his Bibelstudien - an innocently titled work that was to revolutionize the study of the NT. In this work (later translated into English under the title Bible Studies) Deissmann showed that the Greek of the NT was not a language invented by the Holy Spirit (Hermann Cremer had called it "Holy Ghost Greek," largely because 10 percent of its vocabulary had no secular parallels). Rather, Deissmann demonstrated that the bulk of NT vocabulary was to be found in the papyri. The pragmatic effect of Deissmann's work was to render obsolete virtually all lexica and lexical commentaries written before the turn of the century. (Thayer's lexicon, published in 1886, was outdated shortly after it came off the press - yet, ironically, it is still relied on today by many NT students.)"​

- Daniel B. Wallace. The Basics of New Testament Syntax: An Intermediate Greek Grammar. Zondervan, 2000, p. 21. Dallas Theological Seminary;​

Think of it. Take the time to wrap your brain around it.

The scholars of Cambridge and Oxford who created the KJV did NOT UNDERSTAND 10% of the vocabulary of the Greek texts. TEN PERCENT !!! So they cribbed from the Vulgate. Kind of makes you wonder why some Christians fight so fiercely for the KJV if the translators didn’t quite have a handle on the language in which it was written.

You cannot read greek so you definitely don't know Greek better than the translators

Too bad for you that I, as a translator, DO read Greek. And quite often provide in-situ translations when necessary, along with links to the Liddell Scott Greek Lexicon. While I hate doing this, my CV includes classes from the Moravian Seminary and Princeton Theological. You? At some point I should publish a thread on 2 Tim. 3:16, but I see that you already think you know it all. That's unfortunate.

you just use that an an excuse to deny the bible and call Scripture evil and false ,So that is your first character marker

Since we've been asked to calm down, I'll just politely point out that I quoted the KJV eight times, and the NRSV once in my post to you. So... that argument against my character just went poof, didn't it.

Please think through things before you post them. It's only polite.

That is insane to claim Paul was Jesus I do not think you are a sane person,

And I would politely ask you to read what I actually wrote. Because I never claimed that Paul was Jesus (who was sent to preach the Gospel). But I'm not the one claiming that one must understand and believe Paul in order to be saved.

Here's what I wrote: with emphasis added

Paul was not the Son of God sent to bring the Gospel to all Mankind. Paul is not, nor ever was Jesus.

And here's what you wrote -

If you do not trust Scripture and doubt the Gospel message revealed to Paul, you wouldn't understand how to be saved.

God sent Jesus to preach the Gospel. I'm not sure why you don't understand that. Please let me try again: (and note that I AM using the KJV, like I had done so previously).

Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.​

- Mark 1:14-15 KJV

If Jesus came preaching the Gospel, then the Gospel is what Jesus preached, and none other. Period. NO OTHER Gospel should or can be preached than that which was brought to the world by the Son of God Himself. Any other Gospel than what Jesus personally preached is heresy. Period. And that is the Gospel that all His apostles should be preaching. No?

And let me ask a few polite questions. If Jesus came preaching the Gospel, why do you reject this Gospel in favor of one preached by Paul, saying that one cannot understand how to be saved if one doesn't read Paul? (And that is what you said....)

Why would God reveal a different Gospel message to Paul than the one that He revealed to His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ? And if God did NOT reveal a different Gospel message, then why can't people understand how to be saved from learning what Jesus taught and commanded us to do?

This view truly perplexes me. There is a rather large church denomination in Virginia that actually preaches that Jesus had no clue about the true Gospel, and like you, say that one can only be saved through Paul's faith. In essence, the Father lied to Jesus by not telling him the true Gospel that was later revealed to Paul. Might you be part of that church?

Paul taught the other deciples about this as jesus hadn't died when the twelve where following him on earth

WHAT ??? Just hold on a second here. Please, I BEG of you to think about what you just said. (Read it again...)

Didn't the "Twelve" see Jesus AFTER he rose from the dead? I shouldn't need to quote scripture to prove that. So then... YES the "Twelve" (technically 11) were following Jesus after he died, AND after He arose from being dead. Furthermore, Jesus spent 40 days with the Apostles after he rose from the dead, teaching them and reminding them what He taught. Did Jesus forget something? Leave something out? And then had to send a PS to them through some guy named Paul? Help me understand this.

Furthermore, the Gospels books were written AFTER Jesus ascended into heaven, so anything Jesus said to them including the command to preach the gospel would have been AFTER the resurrection. So why do none of the Gospel books have anything saying something like, "Okay guys, the Good News I taught before my death is no longer valid, and I'm just hanging around for 40 days here until my ascension because the true Gospel is going to come through some guy named Paul, and he's going to teach you, not Me." (Yeah, that does sound insane.)

But Not Matthew, Not Mark, Not Luke, and Not even John ever invalidates anything that Jesus taught in His Gospel before the crucifixion. And it was after his resurrection that he commanded the disciples to preach HIS Gospel.

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.​

- Mark 16:15-16 KJV

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.​

- Matthew 28:18-20 KJV

So why would Paul need to teach anything to the other Apostles? I'm seriously asking this, with all due respect, because I truly don't understand your viewpoint. (And I ask the forum members to help me out here as well.)

What part of the Gospel did Jesus forget that He then had to choose Paul to teach the other Apostles? To ask in a different way, what Part of the Gospel as taught by Jesus the Son of God did Jesus leave out? Did Jesus forget to teach a part of the Gospel? Did the Father forget to tell Jesus part of the Good News?

Paul taught the other deciples about this ...

If you could be so kind as to list the specifics of what Paul had to teach the disciples it would be greatly appreciated. We obviously come from different Faiths, and I would be interested to learn more about yours.

Jesus is the only Saviour, he is the Christ, the son of the living God

Well we wholeheartedly agree here on this, so perhaps there is hope. But one would think that one should then learn, follow, and obey the Gospel that the Son of the Living God actually taught.

Again you are just denying the scripture as you do a lot,

How can I deny what I quoted? I quoted it. Let's do the count. in this and my last post, I quoted Twelve (12) scripture verses, where as you quoted ... NONE.

None at all. How about that. All you did was post your own opinion, ignoring the 9 scripture verses in my first post.

There is only way way your sins can be forgiven and you haven't spoken about it,

Well by all means, then let me rectify that now. And indeed there IS only one way for anyone's sins to be forgiven .... BUT, you don't need to hear my words, so I shall just quote the words of Jesus Christ, the Son and Messiah of the Living God, our Lord and Savior, starting with those of his cousin John.

John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.​

- Mark 1:4-5 KJV

After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, .... And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.​

- Matthew 6:9-12 KJV

And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, ,,,. And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. ....​

- Luke 11:2-4 KJV

The Father forgives sin when you repent in prayer and forgive others as well. No dead animals needed, and THAT IS good news.

That's the only way your sins can be forgiven, straight from the Messiah's mouth.

Rhema

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Just to erase any doubt Nick, let’s examine the words of the Apostles and the mighty Church Fathers who built the doctrinal backbone of Christianity itself.

Paul the Apostle – Romans 9:6 and Galatians 3:29 clearly teach that true Israel is spiritual and those in Christ are Abraham’s seed.

Galatians 3:28–29 – “There is neither Jew nor Greek… for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.”

Peter the Apostle – 1 Peter 2:9–10 calls the Church “a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation,” applying Old Testament language about Israel to believers in Christ.

Justin Martyr (Dialogue with Trypho, 2nd c.) – “We who have been drawn to God through this crucified Christ are the true spiritual Israel. The Church is the true people of God—regardless of race.”

Irenaeus (2nd c.) – Emphasized that the Church, made up of all nations, inherits the promises made to Abraham through Christ.

Justin Martyr (c. 100–165 AD) – In Dialogue with Trypho, he also states that Christians are the true spiritual Israel, not the Jews who reject Christ.

Irenaeus of Lyons (c. 130–202 AD) – Taught that Christ fulfills the promises to Israel and that the Church inherits them as the new covenant people.

Tertullian (c. 155–240 AD) – Emphasized that the old law and physical circumcision have been replaced by the spiritual reality in the Church.

Origen of Alexandria (c. 185–253 AD) – Repeatedly identifies the Church as the true Israel and interprets Old Testament promises spiritually.

Cyprian of Carthage (c. 200–258 AD) – Stated that no one can have God as Father who does not have the Church as Mother, reinforcing the Church as the true people of God.

Eusebius of Caesarea (c. 260–339 AD) – Interpreted prophecies about Israel as fulfilled in the Church, not in ethnic Jews.

Athanasius of Alexandria (c. 296–373 AD) – Affirmed that salvation is through Christ alone and that the Church is the continuation of God’s covenant.

Tertullian (3rd c.) – Taught that Christ abolished the old law and joined Jew and Gentile into one faith, removing ethnic distinction before God.

Gregory of Nazianzus (c. 329–390 AD) – Spoke of the Church as the true Israel and the new people of God born through Christ.

Gregory of Nyssa (c. 335–395 AD) – Emphasized the unity of the faithful in Christ as the perfected people of God.

Ambrose of Milan (c. 340–397 AD) – Explicitly rejected the idea that Jews apart from Christ could be heirs of God’s promises.

John Chrysostom (c. 347–407 AD) – Denounced Judaizing tendencies and insisted that the Church, not the synagogue, is the house of God.

Augustine of Hippo (c. 354–430 AD) – Taught that the Church is the true Israel and that Jews remain under judgment until they believe in Christ.

Cyril of Alexandria (c. 376–444 AD) – Identified the Church as the inheritor of Israel’s covenant through Christ.

Theodoret of Cyrus (c. 393–457 AD) – Saw the Church as the fulfillment of the promises made to Israel.

Isidore of Seville (c. 560–636 AD) – Reiterated the belief that the Church is now the Israel of God through Christ.

Thomas Aquinas (1225–1274 AD) – Affirmed that the Church fulfills the spiritual promises made to Israel in the Old Testament.

Martin Luther (1483–1546 AD) – Taught that the Church is the true Israel and warned against reliance on Jewish lineage without Christ.

John Calvin (1509–1564 AD) – Emphasized covenant theology in which the Church is the continuation of Israel, now centered in Christ.

And on and on it went—through the Apostles, through the Church Fathers, through the Reformers, even the Puritans—all in full agreement that the Body of Christ is the true Israel.

Until 1909.

You think the big moment was Trinity, in the desert in 1945, when man split the atom and cracked the sky.

Wrong.

The real detonation happened in 1909, when Oxford Press, the Rockefeller's, and C.I. Scofield slipped a theological atom bomb into the hands of the Church.

Not uranium — doctrine.
Not radiation — deception.
And instead of flattening cities, it rewired the Gospel in the minds of millions.

That’s when the veil dropped.
That’s when Zionism replaced Zion.
That’s when the Bride of Christ was told she was no longer Israel — and a Christ-rejecting nation-state of 8th century, Eastern European converts was crowned in her place.

Trinity 1945 scorched the earth.
Scofield 1909 scorched the Gospel.

And the fallout hasn’t stopped since.

1909: that’s when the Dragon struck.

That’s when Oxford Press, the Rockefellers, and Scofield conspired to unleash Hell in the form of a “free Bible”—a weaponized text footnoted with doctrines of demons, a tomb of Babylonian witchcraft and Talmudic sorcery masquerading as Christian theology.

And just like that — every John Boy Walton in America forgot everything listed up above.
The historic witness of the saints was tossed aside like rubble—traded for Scofield’s footnotes and a Zionist mythology that mocks the Gospel it pretends to fulfill.

Centuries of faithful doctrine were abandoned in favor of a system birthed in deception—one that traded the Bride of Christ for a geopolitical idol.

Now suddenly — after 1,900 years of clear, unified testimony — the Body of Christ is no longer Israel.
Now “Israel” is dirt. Literal soil. A geopolitical patch of land.

An Israel of dirt flying the demonic Star of Rephan — a symbol God Himself declared cursed in Amos 5 and Acts 7 — now stands at the center of a regime that denies the Son of God.

And yet the modern Church, drunk on Scofield’s delusion, dares to call it holy.
They don’t even stop to ask why the so-called “Star of David” appears nowhere in Scripture—or why God never gave David a star in the first place.
Because they're under the veil.

They’ve traded the Kingdom of God for a false bloodline—not the seed of Abraham, but the sons of 8th-century pagan Khazar converts.
They’ve mistaken the Body of Christ for a nation that crucifies Him again in spirit with every denial of His name.
They’ve confused the eternal promises of God with those who reject the very One in whom those promises were fulfilled.

They're under the veil..

All of this false "Israel of dirt" insanity goes 24/7/365 —
Even though Jesus said, “My Kingdom is not of this world.”
Even though Paul said, “Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.”
Even though every Apostle and Church Father testified that the Church alone is the heir of the promise.

It was a trick.
Just like Eden.
Only this time, it wasn’t two people in a garden — it was the entire Church, deceived on a global scale.

And now here we are…

Handing billions of dollars and nuclear missiles to a false Israel —
one that is not the Body of Christ,
but a Christ-rejecting regime flying the cursed Star of Rephan.

We are arming the children of the Devil to help usher in their Antichrist.

And what does the Antichrist need to appear?
Mass chaos, world wars, blood in the streets and a shiny new temple.
And who keeps the chaos going?
Who floods the borders?
Who funds both sides of every war?

You already know.
The Synagogue of Satan never sleeps.

Meanwhile, the bewitched Church, stumbling like a drunkard on Scofield’s poisoned, Babylonian wine,
marches proudly toward the cliff —
singing hymns as it falls into the jaws of the Beast.

 

[Rhema]

2 Timothy 3:15-17 The Interlinear Greek-English New Testament
and that from a babe sacred letters thou knowest, the [ones] being able thee to make wise to salvation through faith - in Christ Jesus. Every scripture [is] God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction - in righteousness, in order that fitted may be the - of God man, for every work good having been furnished.

Just to note, adding in words [noted in red] is just not a good idea.

Hi Nick, I just haven't had the time to prepare an exhaustive thread for this topic, but maybe a preview might help:

(2Ti 3:15,16) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures (which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus) every inspired and profitable writing for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:​

It doesn't say "All scripture is given by inspiration of God" as found in the KJV. Not even the verb "given" is in the Greek text. Rather it's saying, "thou hast known the holy scriptures - every inspired and profitable scripture for..."

Second Timothy 3:16 is purposefully mistranslated so someone can Bible thump you over the head. Christians like to do that.

Hope this helps.
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Just to erase any doubt Nick, let’s examine the words of the Apostles and the mighty Church Fathers who built the doctrinal backbone of Christianity itself.

The BACKBONE of Christianity Itself? Wow.

I hadn't realized you were turning Orthodox.

Thumbs up. Good for you.

Rhema

 

[Seethat]

and like you, say that one can only be saved through Paul's faith.

Why do you do this...you put words in people's mouths and lie about them? I have never said this, it just shows how dishonest you are. So what is the point of discussing the bible with someone who doesn't believe it and likes to make up lies? you deny Pauls Gospel so Christians are to consider you cursed.

So instead of replying to your novel full of lies and semantics just answer plainly in your own words....Have you received Jesus in your body? and do you know what saves and what keeps you saved? try answer in your owns words because you cannot explain something you don't understand so it will prove it, also you should want to give an answer for the hope that is in you.

 

[Seethat]

Too bad for you that I, as a translator, DO read Greek. And quite often provide in-situ translations when necessary, along with links to the Liddell Scott Greek Lexicon. While I hate doing this, my CV includes classes from the Moravian Seminary and Princeton Theological. You? At some point I should publish a thread on 2 Tim. 3:16, but I see that you already think you know it all. That's unfortunate.

Your study has driven you mad, your little knowledge of Greek has made you reject most of New Testament teachings and doctrines for the church. It has made you not believe the New Testament and that is why you don't believe Paul or understand the New Testament. You are always talking pre cross, the New Testament doesn't come into effect until the death of the testator, from then on you do not understand, so your Greek study hasn't helped. If you said you knew a little Hebrew and believe the Old Testament, I would believe you, but your fake Greek has turned you away from the bible, and your goal is to publicly cast doubt on it.

Well by all means, then let me rectify that now. And indeed there IS only one way for anyone's sins to be forgiven .... BUT, you don't need to hear my words, so I shall just quote the words of Jesus Christ, the Son and Messiah of the Living God, our Lord and Savior, starting with those of his cousin John.

John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.- Mark 1:4-5 KJV

After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, .... And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.- Matthew 6:9-12 KJV

And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, ,,,. And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. ....- Luke 11:2-4 KJV

The Father forgives sin when you repent in prayer and forgive others as well. No dead animals needed, and THAT IS good news.

If your problem is sin then I understand why you would keep repenting and asking for forgiveness and hope to be saved.

You are using the Old Testament before Jesus offered himself as the one-time eternal sacrifice for sins forever. So your answer....this time....As I notice it keeps changing, is repent and pray, and hope he will forgive you? So you are saying you keep changing your mind or turning (repent) about sin.... and you keep praying for forgiveness of sin... and hope to be forgiven each time? Where is the cross in that?

If you bring in the cross....Christians are forgiven, they have already repented and put their faith in Jesus and are forgiven their Sin and are in Christ....see God would not join himself to sin, so your sin needs to be dealt with before you can be born again. Repentance that saves is to put your faith in Jesus as your saviour, as he is our sin bearer, and you can be imputed with the gift of Righteousness, and the gift of Salvation; and the gift of Eternal life. The gift is Jesus. When someone puts their faith in Jesus, God takes the person's sin, gives them his righteousness, and they become the righteousness of God in Christ. You have to be forgiven of all sin before you can be born again, and sin is dealt with at the cross. Jesus said it is finished.

At least answer this one question honestly.....If someone is saved, what do you think keeps them saved?

That's the only way your sins can be forgiven, straight from the Messiah's mouth.

Why did Jesus die on the cross?

 

[Garee]

Just to note, adding in words [noted in red] is just not a good idea.

Hi Nick, I just haven't had the time to prepare an exhaustive thread for this topic, but maybe a preview might help:

(2Ti 3:15,16) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures (which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus) every inspired and profitable writing for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:​

It doesn't say "All scripture is given by inspiration of God" as found in the KJV. Not even the verb "given" is in the Greek text. Rather it's saying, "thou hast known the holy scriptures - every inspired and profitable scripture for..."

Second Timothy 3:16 is purposefully mistranslated so someone can Bible thump you over the head. Christians like to do that.

Hope this helps.
Rhema

Thats odd. How much of scripture is not given as inspired?

Sola scriptura is the standard it thumps many heads.

 

[Leumas]

Ah yes, the classic move: rip one verse out of context, weaponize it like a parroted spell, and pretend the rest of Scripture doesn’t exist. You quote 1 John 2:27 like it’s some mystical license to ignore apostles, reject doctrine, and crown yourself Pope of your own feelings. But funny how John — the same man who wrote that verse — also says:

“We are of God. He that knows God hears us; he that is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.”
(1 John 4:6)

That’s plural, by the way — “us.”
As in, the apostles.
As in, Paul included.

You want to quote the Holy Ghost? Let’s do that.

The Holy Ghost said:
“Separate unto me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.”
(Acts 13:2)

The Holy Ghost said:
“Paul, an apostle — not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father...”
(Galatians 1:1)

And the Holy Ghost said — through Peter, no less:
“Our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given unto him, has written to you... as also in all his epistles... the Scriptures.”
(2 Peter 3:15–16)

So yes — the Holy Ghost did write the Bible. Including Paul’s letters.
And right now, you're the one rejecting them.
You don’t have the anointing. You have John Nelson Darby & Scofield.

You rail against teachers while building your theology on secondhand footnotes from Darby and some rogue YouTuber. You quote one verse while sawing off the legs of the entire apostolic foundation.

Christ didn’t die so you could play solo prophet with no accountability.

He built a Body, he sent apostles and he gave us His Word.
And the same Spirit you claim to hear already spoke through them.

You just don’t like what He said.

Let’s be absolutely clear —

Not one apostle.
Not one early Church Father.
Not Peter, not John.
Not Ignatius, not Polycarp, not Irenaeus, not Clement, not Justin Martyr —
none of them believed the Dispensationalist garbage you're preaching.

Not a single one of them taught a dual-covenant heresy.
Not one of them carved out some ethnic exception clause for a Christ-rejecting Israel made up of Gentile, Khazar & Russian 8th century converts.
Not one preached that salvation could be inherited through bloodline, land deeds, or geopolitical favoritism.

They didn’t worship dirt.
They didn’t bow to flags.
And they didn’t call the enemies of Christ “God’s chosen people.”

That came later — from the poisoned pen of Scofield, funded by Zionist money, and baptized by a compromised church desperate to trade its cross for a counterfeit crown. Your theology didn’t come from the Upper Room.
It came from Oxford Press and a Zionist checkbook in 1909.

And I’ll tell you this —
If Peter, John, Ignatius, Polycarp, Irenaeus, Clement, and Justin Martyr were running the Pentagon right now, they’d blast the Gentile, Christ-hating false Jews squatting in the Holy Land straight back to Hell where they came from.

One look at that blue-and-white banner, waving the demonic sigil of the Star of Rephan over Jerusalem, and they would’ve screamed, fallen to their knees, and torn their robes in horror.

Because they would’ve immediately recognized what today’s deceived church refuses to see —
These are the “false Jews” of Revelation.
The ones “who say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.”
(Rev 2:9, 3:9)

They knew what you’ve forgotten:
The New Covenant didn’t preserve the temple — it replaced it.
The Gospel didn’t extend the Old — it fulfilled it.
And the Kingdom of God isn’t waiting to be rebuilt in the Middle East — it already reigns in the Body of Christ.

No exceptions, no flags, no ethnicity.
Just the Cross — or judgment.

A lot of this you have said is not true.