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Is it Okay to Condemn Sinners?

The parable of the Prodigal Son shows the love that a father has for his children.

it also show the vulnerability that a person has when they truly love someone, they are willing to see past all of their mistakes, weaknesses and failures and continue to love them

Luk 15:32 [ his son ] ........ was dead, and is alive again; ...and was lost, and is found.
 
Don't leave out the rest of it.
God tells us HOW to judge and what hypocritical judgment is.
You're not going to bring anyone to God or get open if you start with "Hellfire and brimstone you sinner!"
 
You're not going to bring anyone to God or get open if you start with "Hellfire and brimstone you sinner!"

Not sure if I agree with this line. It was a nun telling me exactly that that forced me to introspect. I asked myself how and why could a loving and good God hate my sin so much that eternal torment be possible.
 
He that worketh deceit shall not dwell within my house: he that telleth lies shall not tarry in my sight.

As he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures

I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. For your obedience is known to all, so that I rejoice over you, but I want you to be wise as to what is good and innocent as to what is evil. The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.


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Not sure if I agree with this line. It was a nun telling me exactly that that forced me to introspect. I asked myself how and why could a loving and good God hate my sin so much that eternal torment be possible.
You're in the minority and no minority defines the standard.
Jesus didn't do that and He did not downplay Hell.

Sin is so bad that Hell IS the perfect judgment for those who refuse to change.
 
You're in the minority and no minority defines the standard.
Jesus didn't do that and He did not downplay Hell.

Sin is so bad that Hell IS the perfect judgment for those who refuse to change.

I don't think you properly read my post? Its the complete opposite of downplaying hell ;).
 
"They" in Romans One refers to you and to me and to everyone else on earth. This is clear from the conclusion in Romand 2:1, which belongs with chapter One, as Paul's letter was not originally divided into chapters:

"Therefore, you are inexcusable, O one, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things."

We are all guilty before God, apart from forgiveness: "There is none who does righteousness, no not one."
May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

I read your comments but I have no clue what you're talking about.

What is Romand 2:1 , I never heard of that book before. Are you talking about Romans? Okay I think that's who you are talking about.

But I still don't understand anything or what you're trying to say. I prefer that you just say it straight up versus beating around the bush please
 
May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

And the concept of condemning sinners.

If we take it as the concept that we are trying to save the sinners, then yes, it is okay to condemn them trying to bring trepidation into their mind as to the result of their sins.

But out and out condemning them, where you condemn them in your heart or you make the judgment and say they have no hope, that is a different story. And this we must not do.

Giving a better example. It is okay to tell someone who is in a homosexual relationship. That this is not acceptable by God. There are numerous statements in Scripture, that God has focused his View of one man and one woman. And it states about the marriage let no man divide what God has United.

It is important for us to let those who walk in darkness know that they are walking in darkness. Because many who walk in darkness do not realize it.

But there are others who walk in the Darkness, and choose to walk in that Darkness. They actually relish it, preferring to be in the darkness itself then to actually walk in the light of God.

Even though we can condemn the sin, we cannot State out loud that you're going to go to hell. Because we are not the final judge. We can choose to help a person letting them know what their path is if they choose to continue on the road, but we cannot condemn that person in our hearts.
 
No we cant "condemn" sinners, if in the sense of "condemn" we mean consign to Hell, for that as has been pointed out before is Gods prerogative alone, and he alone has ALL the information to come to a perfect judgement, we on the other hand, are wretched sinners ourselves, our faith and so called morality twisted and perverted by our sinfulness, unable to judge our own salvation let alone the salvation or otherwise of others. But we can judge the sin, by following christs teachings and commandments we can see how we deviate so much from what he asks of us and must hope and pray that God indeed, is very, very merciful and forgiving, for we are ALL in dire need of his Grace.

One thing that always gets to me when the subject of "sin" and "condemnation" arises in discussion is how quick some Christians are to point the finger at Sexual immorality, particularly the sins of the LBBTQ community, or as someone referred to them lovingly as, "the Alphabet people", i must remember that phrase, a definite example of Christs love and compassion as well as our own wretched sinfulness., while ignoring the biggest condemnation Christ had, which was for the rich, the hypocrites and those that ignored the sufferings of the poor and oppressed, and to the best of my knowledge he never once even mentioned Homosexuality. Which isnt to say its not a sin, but that it would seem to come well down Christs list of "degrees of sin".

Could it just be that those sins, those of greed and indifference to the sufferings of the poor, are the very sins that we, in the rich world, are most guilty of, and its always far easier to try to deflect our own guilt by pointing out the sins of others.
 
No we cant "condemn" sinners, if in the sense of "condemn" we mean consign to Hell, for that as has been pointed out before is Gods prerogative alone, and he alone has ALL the information to come to a perfect judgement, we on the other hand, are wretched sinners ourselves, our faith and so called morality twisted and perverted by our sinfulness, unable to judge our own salvation let alone the salvation or otherwise of others. But we can judge the sin, by following christs teachings and commandments we can see how we deviate so much from what he asks of us and must hope and pray that God indeed, is very, very merciful and forgiving, for we are ALL in dire need of his Grace.

One thing that always gets to me when the subject of "sin" and "condemnation" arises in discussion is how quick some Christians are to point the finger at Sexual immorality, particularly the sins of the LBBTQ community, or as someone referred to them lovingly as, "the Alphabet people", i must remember that phrase, a definite example of Christs love and compassion as well as our own wretched sinfulness., while ignoring the biggest condemnation Christ had, which was for the rich, the hypocrites and those that ignored the sufferings of the poor and oppressed, and to the best of my knowledge he never once even mentioned Homosexuality. Which isnt to say its not a sin, but that it would seem to come well down Christs list of "degrees of sin".

Could it just be that those sins, those of greed and indifference to the sufferings of the poor, are the very sins that we, in the rich world, are most guilty of, and its always far easier to try to deflect our own guilt by pointing out the sins of others.
May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly maybe I use the wrong words I'm not quite sure. But when you're dealing with somebody that you know is in the occult for instance. And they are bragging about doing casting spells and whatnot. I don't feel it's wrong to sit there and say you're on a path to destruction you're on a path to hell. And this is what I'm talking about that we're not necessarily making the Judgment of that we're going to contend that person to hell but that we are warning them that they are walking that path taking that road
 
May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

And the concept of condemning sinners.

If we take it as the concept that we are trying to save the sinners, then yes, it is okay to condemn them trying to bring trepidation into their mind as to the result of their sins.

But out and out condemning them, where you condemn them in your heart or you make the judgment and say they have no hope, that is a different story. And this we must not do.

Giving a better example. It is okay to tell someone who is in a homosexual relationship. That this is not acceptable by God. There are numerous statements in Scripture, that God has focused his View of one man and one woman. And it states about the marriage let no man divide what God has United.

It is important for us to let those who walk in darkness know that they are walking in darkness. Because many who walk in darkness do not realize it.

But there are others who walk in the Darkness, and choose to walk in that Darkness. They actually relish it, preferring to be in the darkness itself then to actually walk in the light of God.

Even though we can condemn the sin, we cannot State out loud that you're going to go to hell. Because we are not the final judge. We can choose to help a person letting them know what their path is if they choose to continue on the road, but we cannot condemn that person in our hearts.
condemn: means to express strong disapproval of someone or something, usually because it is considered morally wrong, unjust, or evil.

judgement -refers to the cognitive process of evaluating circumstances to make a decision, form an opinion, or express an authoritative ruling

Lord told me many will hate the Truth they will twist His words to fit their Life and they Love their Life over Him..
I cried out why Lord why Can they not hear me Hear what is being said..
He told me if they cant hear me and i dwell in you what makes you think you can make them Hear??..
N then i realized that too was pride sticking its foot in my door..all it needs is a crack why we must stay close to the Lord..

Its not they are being judge they hate the Light shining in their darkness

Many are under the spell of the false preachers/teachers or whatever title they claim.. these peddlers of the Word are some of the strongest spells on the Land

Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out?

And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

Hope alls well..

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May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

And the concept of condemning sinners.

If we take it as the concept that we are trying to save the sinners, then yes, it is okay to condemn them trying to bring trepidation into their mind as to the result of their sins.

But out and out condemning them, where you condemn them in your heart or you make the judgment and say they have no hope, that is a different story. And this we must not do.

Giving a better example. It is okay to tell someone who is in a homosexual relationship. That this is not acceptable by God. There are numerous statements in Scripture, that God has focused his View of one man and one woman. And it states about the marriage let no man divide what God has United.

It is important for us to let those who walk in darkness know that they are walking in darkness. Because many who walk in darkness do not realize it.

But there are others who walk in the Darkness, and choose to walk in that Darkness. They actually relish it, preferring to be in the darkness itself then to actually walk in the light of God.

Even though we can condemn the sin, we cannot State out loud that you're going to go to hell. Because we are not the final judge. We can choose to help a person letting them know what their path is if they choose to continue on the road, but we cannot condemn that person in our hearts.
 
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