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God's gift of Tongues Are Not for Private Use

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Sorry, but Paul NEVER teaches that "Tongues" are not for private use. That's nothing but your flawed opinion. Paul Teaches that Tongues spoken in private are EDIFYING to the Person speaking them. A Person who is spiritually edified becomes a more effective minister to the body.

Then follows a pile of absolute foolishness, indicating that you have little or NO actual knowledge of how tongues are actually manifested in meetings.

NATURALLY a person's private tongues have no place in an open meeting, but the Corinthians were a undisciplined bunch that actually JUDGED EACH OTHER by the gifts manifested (as though they had anything to do with them) - "My Gift is better than your gift - I Have no need for YOU!!" obviously the Corinthian church was experiencing folks blatting out their tongues without being burdened to do so (so that there was no interpreter), and generally "Showing off" disruptively. Paul NEVER says the Tongues were FALSE - he just instructs on their proper use IN THE MEETING CONTEXT.

When the Holy Spirit burdens a person in a meeting to manifest "Tongues" in a meeting, he'll also burden another(s) (or the tongues speaker themselves) to Interpret, and He'll also "hold" the service to make space for the Gifts to manifest. Tongues + Interpretation = Prophesy - i.e. a WORD FROM GOD for the congregation. which is the real topic of 1 Cor 14.

NOTHING in that chapter teaches anything negative about "Private use of tongues" at all. Paul clearly states that you are Praising WELL personally, but others aren't edified by it (duh) since they can't understand it. Your eisegesis is inaccurate, and ignored.

Fine, then DON'T EVER SPEAK IN TONGUES in private - since you apparently can't do it in FAITH (Rom 14:23).

@Curtis

The tone of your reply suggest this is not an open discussion any more but an argument which is indicative that you have made up your mind about it & do not wish to discuss this in meekness & gentleness nor patience towards me.

I understand that what I am sharing is offensive to some, because they want that tongues for private use to be of God as gained by that second blessing that happened later in life of the believer whereas I say it is not; Biblically. 2 Corinthians 11:3-4

We can all agree that you are both saved for believing in the Lord Jesus Christ & that God has raised Him from the dead, even though I am not sure where the staff are at in regards to that comment in the Talk Jesus's Statement of Faith as you guys cannot really answer for them.

My concern as I do believe saved believers are still saved even when left behind at the rapture event for being in iniquity, is that this tongue for private use as gained by that apostate calling is why I believe you guys are at risk.

If you are unwilling to assure me that you will not be left behind Biblically for that, Revelation 2:18-25, then I understand why you prefer to cease in this discussion. The Lord will help me to give that concern to Him & help me not to take it back again as I trust Him to remove from my hands, the blood guiltiness associated with that apostasy.

Psalm 51:13 Then will I teach transgressors thy ways; and sinners shall be converted unto thee. 14 Deliver me from bloodguiltiness, O God, thou God of my salvation: and my tongue shall sing aloud of thy righteousness. 15 O Lord, open thou my lips; and my mouth shall shew forth thy praise.

Thank you for sharing anyway.
 
Your logic here is flawed because you don't understand why Jesus said what he said.

It would be helpful if you told me what Jesus said as He did.

Those people never cast out any demons, not prophesied any real prophecy from God. They were self deceived, and they lie to God at the day of judgement in an attempt of self justification.

You need to understand that "miracles" can happen outside of God, and the difference is how the lose self control & fall in those phenomenon. That is why Jesus said what He did in Matthew 7:24-27 for going to the holy Spirit what you should have gone to Jesus for; Matthew 7:13-14 John 14:6 & John 10:1

 
@Curtis

The tone of your reply suggest this is not an open discussion any more but an argument which is indicative that you have made up your mind about it & do not wish to discuss this in meekness & gentleness nor patience towards me.

I understand that what I am sharing is offensive to some, because they want that tongues for private use to be of God as gained by that second blessing that happened later in life of the believer whereas I say it is not; Biblically. 2 Corinthians 11:3-4

We can all agree that you are both saved for believing in the Lord Jesus Christ & that God has raised Him from the dead, even though I am not sure where the staff are at in regards to that comment in the Talk Jesus's Statement of Faith as you guys cannot really answer for them.

My concern as I do believe saved believers are still saved even when left behind at the rapture event for being in iniquity, is that this tongue for private use as gained by that apostate calling is why I believe you guys are at risk.

If you are unwilling to assure me that you will not be left behind Biblically for that, Revelation 2:18-25, then I understand why you prefer to cease in this discussion. The Lord will help me to give that concern to Him & help me not to take it back again as I trust Him to remove from my hands, the blood guiltiness associated with that apostasy.

Psalm 51:13 Then will I teach transgressors thy ways; and sinners shall be converted unto thee. 14 Deliver me from bloodguiltiness, O God, thou God of my salvation: and my tongue shall sing aloud of thy righteousness. 15 O Lord, open thou my lips; and my mouth shall shew forth thy praise.

Thank you for sharing anyway.
Brother, I can not get any more saved than I already am. So do not concern yourself about me.It is you I believe is missing one of the greatest blessings of being filled with the Holy Spirit, with the evidence of speaking in tongues, not only as a ministry gift as the Spirit wills but also in one personal life.
What part do you not understand? What did Jesus say about those who would "believe"?

Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

What did the Apostle Paul say about tongues?

1Co 14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:

What was Pauls's prayer for the Church?

1Co 14:5 Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up.
 
To quote Glenn Campbell in True Gr
Thank you for sharing in trying to figure this out Biblically, but I disagree. And I doubt you can get others that use tongues for private use to all agree with you. Having been born of the Spirit, thus a new creature, we should all be bale to do that, but that is not what is happening. And so the defining line is that phenomenon apart from salvation moment when we had first believed in Him at the calling of the gospel.

It is better for us to pray normally to know what we had prayed for, so when we get an answer to prayers, we can give the Father genuine heartfelt thanks in Jesus's name for answers to prayers. That's better than not knowing what that tongue did in private use.

What knows the things of a man save the spirit of the man? Does the carnal mind know better what to say than the new spiritual creature within?

Sometimes the old True Grit line from Glenn Campbell is appropriate "You couldn't see it if you saw it"
 
1 Corinthians 14:12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church. 13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. 14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.

In context, brother Curtis, Paul is saying for those zealous for spiritual gifts, seek so as to excel the edifying of the church. Therefore those who speak in tongues, should pray that another may interpret that tongue being manifested by the Holy Ghost. Paul is praying that someone will interpret that tongue manifested through him by the Holy Ghost so he may understand it for that tongue to be fruitful to himself.
You seem to not understand that there are "tongues" as a ministry gift that NOT ALL believers will do (not everyone is called into the ministry) Then there is a prayer language in tongues that every believer is to do! As a believer, when I pray in tongues can ask God for the interpretation of what I just prayed. I do that sometimes, but when I am praying in tongues I know I am praying the perfect will of God, so I really dont need know what I prayed.

Prohecying is "greater" than speaking in tongues ,unless there is an interpretation of the tongues which then makes them exactly the same.

1Co 14:5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
 
Brother, I can not get any more saved than I already am. So do not concern yourself about me.It is you I believe is missing one of the greatest blessings of being filled with the Holy Spirit, with the evidence of speaking in tongues, not only as a ministry gift as the Spirit wills but also in one personal life.
What part do you not understand? What did Jesus say about those who would "believe"?

Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

What did the Apostle Paul say about tongues?

1Co 14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:

What was Pauls's prayer for the Church?

1Co 14:5 Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up.
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Brother, I can not get any more saved than I already am. So do not concern yourself about me.It is you I believe is missing one of the greatest blessings of being filled with the Holy Spirit, with the evidence of speaking in tongues, not only as a ministry gift as the Spirit wills but also in one personal life.

I did not say you were not saved and since those saints in iniquity that are left behind are still saved, but that my concern Biblically has you at risk of being left behind for not being found abiding in Him & His words.

What part do you not understand? What did Jesus say about those who would "believe"?

See how you statement can be applied as saying all believers are supposed to speak in tongues when they have the Holy spirit to know they are saved? I know you do not believe that, but the things we say and the comment from Talk Jesus's Statement of Faith, you guys cannot speak for them in knowing what they had actually meant in that section about "Baptism".

Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Again, I point out that signs are to follow believers as signs towards unbelievers, not believers following signs nor chasing after what they believe is the Holy Spirit being received again for that sign of tongues for private use.

What did the Apostle Paul say about tongues?

Read it in context, brother, as Paul gave the bottom line on what God's gift of tongues are actually for in verse 21 and that it was never to serve as a sign or proof towards believers about anything but to the unbelievers.

1Co 14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:

19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.


20 Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.

21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.

22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.


What was Pauls's prayer for the Church?

Perhaps I should remove the boldened and remove the underlined to show what Paul was actually emphasizing on.

1Co 14:5 Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up.

Still in complete disagreement with you, brother. You should read Paul's words in context and not just zero in on about tongues as if Paul is exhorting believers to seek that gift of tongues over prophesy through out that chapter when he was not. To make that tongue that is to come without interpretation for private use to be the valued gift to seek after is to overlook the intent of Paul's exhortation to seek the gift of prophesy over all spiritual gifts.

1 Corinthians 14:1 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.

12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church. 13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.

26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.

That is why Paul is pushing prophesy over tongues because tongues is not a stand alone gift, not even for the tongue speaker for private use when they are to pray that someone else will interpret that tongue in the assembly so that tongue would be beneficial to the tongue speaker and
therefore tongues can not be for private use.

For Paul to say to them all that he spoke in tongues more than them all, he would have to have at least 2 or 3 witnesses to confirm that testimony as true and so saying that to them all is because they all knew he spoke in tongues more than them all because it was never done for private use but in the assembly.

2 Corinthians 13:1 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.

Paul said that in his second epistle that 2 or 3 will confirm that this is the third time he had come to the church at Corinth.

Thank you for sharing anyway. I hope in the Lord that you understand my position as being supported by scripture. I believe in God's gift of tongues but not for private use for why I declare that tongue is not of Him nor by that second blessing that is not of Him either for how you got that tongue for private use. You were to not believe every spirit but test them by knowing He has been in you since salvation so that is not the Holy Spirit coming over you again. 1 John 4:1-4 And that is why we are to test the tongues that come with that other spirit because God's gift of tongues will not sound like that supernatural tongue as found in the occult as scripture confirms Isaiah 8:19 with 1 John 4:5-6 & 1 Timothy 4:1-2 & 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 & 1 Thessalonians 2:9 & John 7:7


1 John 4:1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Isaiah 8: 19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?

1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

2 Thessalonians 2:1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, ..... 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, ...

7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

2 Timothy 4: 18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.


Jude 1: 24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, 25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
 
When believers defend tongues for private use, they are ignoring Paul's teaching on gifts are not for private use & more importantly, none of those gifts are gained by having another drink of the One Spirit that we are all supposed to share in that same testimony as baptized into one body by.

1 Corinthians 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal:

11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. 12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 14 For the body is not one member, but many.

19 And if they were all one member, where were the body? 20 But now are they many members, yet but one body. 21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.

Then Paul began using hyperboles in explaining why love is better than anything else for why tongues are not of angels since he is not like sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal

1 Corinthians 13:1Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

Paul has certainly not sold everything and given to the poor and gave his body up for burning either les he has become a ghost writer. Hyperbole. Just as referring to tongues of angels is a hyperbole, an exaggerated sense of tongues which is not being done in reality.

Then those who speak in tongues try to claim that tongues are for private use by inserting their meaning in complete disregard for why Paul is exhorting the gift of prophesy over all spiritual gifts in verse 1 ad then explained why by comparing tongues against prophesy for why prophesy is the better gift to seek after in the whole message of that chapter because tongues is not a stand alone gift for it needs interpretation for the tongue speaker to truly benefit when he understood what that tongue is saying as manifested by the Holy Ghost.

1 Corinthians 14:1Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy. 2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. 3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. 4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church. 5 I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

Discern with Him now.

2 Corinthians 13:1 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.

Paul cannot claim he speak more in tongues than them all unless he had witnesses to that truth therefore not for private use as this was done in the assembly as witnessed before all.

Paul is not saying the tongue speaker is speaking to God because he is in the assembly where no man understands him but God does, as the tongue speaker speaks in mysteries to those around him but God understands that tongue. That does not mean he is speaking TO God because there are no mysteries to God for why he is not speaking TO God. Paul is meaning God understands what us being said as manifested by the Holy Ghost. God's gift of tongues can be self edifying but only when interpreted for Paul to benefit from that tongue.

12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church. 13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. 14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also. 16 Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?

Tongue speakers ignore verse 13 and point to verse 14 as if Paul is praying in tongues when he is really praying someone will interpret that tongue. everything Paul has said about tongues is being done in the assembly and not for private use. tongue speakers for private use are inserting their tongues in there when Paul is explaining why prophesy is better than tongues because it is not for private use.

17 For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified. 18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: 19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

The only way Paul can say that if tongues were done in the assembly where there are more than 3 witnesses to that truth. He cannot testify of tongues for private use when there are no witnesses.

20 Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men. 21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.

Verses 20-21 is Paul giving the bottom line on what God's gift of tongues are for, being of other men's lips to speak unto the people.

22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.

And yet believers are using tongues as a sign or proof of salvation or proof f Gd calling them into the ministries or as the early Catholic Church claimed, proof that they are keeping the doctrines within. I cannot find that latter info again, but it is so. I would not be surprise that believers that fornicate use tongues as a sign that everything is still okay between Him & them. Is everything okay between Him & the catholic Charismatic Church? I think not. Therefore tongues are not supposed to serve as a sign nor proof to the believers about anything but to the believers.

And yet they preach another baptism with the Holy Ghost with evidence of tongues ( used to be heralded as "by that sign of tongues" ). Red flag. That is why that tongue is not coming with interpretation as it is a voice of stranger's they follow for climbing up another way John 10:1-5

Then getting back to Paul on tongues; I remind you abut verse 2 in how a tongue speaker speaks unto God but not to God but He understands what is being said as we read this below.

26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

How can Paul instruct someone to be silent IF that tongue was manifested by the Holy Ghost just because there was no interpretation? And yet at the end of the chapter he has written not to forbid speaking in tongues in the assembly but order and decency must be maintained?

Reread the 3 verses of 26-28. When you have 2 or 3 speak in tongues, one by one, and another interpret, when you have a practice like that in the assembly, a foreign visitor could very well stand up and speak out of turn. That is why he is to keep silence because he speaks to himself, meaning he understands what he is saying as God does too, not that he is a crazy person speaking to himself and to God.

There can be no speaking in tongues quietly to oneself when even whispering bothers people around them trying to listen to the sermon or in this case, when 2 or 3 speak in tongues for that one to interpret it.

Just another example of how tongue speakers for private use today try to insert that tongue for private use into scripture when that is not what Paul is saying. Indeed, they make Paul look like an idiot for exhorting prophesy over tongues as they are today hyping believers to seek another baptism with the Holy Ghost with evidence of tongues and not prophesy when there is no other baptism with the Holy Ghost to seek after salvation.

That is why I do not believe God's gift of tongues were ever meant for private use.

There are three manifestations of tongues. One is what we see in Acts 2 and 10 where when the person speaking is speaking in their own tongue and the hearer HEARS in their own language. Second is a foreign human language which requires an interpreter that the hearers may hear and be edified. And the third is NOT God speaking to humans, but humans speaking to God in a tongue "that no man understands" which is NOT a human language, his spirit is speaking to God (1 Cor. 14:2). So how does this fit into your view?
 
There are three manifestations of tongues. One is what we see in Acts 2 and 10 where when the person speaking is speaking in their own tongue and the hearer HEARS in their own language.

I do not agree. In Acts 2, the hearers were mystified knowing they were native Galileans and yet speaking in their native tongues. But not every one near those who understood them, had understood the disciples as it was not in their foreign language for why they mocked, saying that Peter & the disciples were drunk.

So you cannot apply that notion to Acts 2 when not everyone understood them and assumed they were drunk.

As for Acts 10; Gentiles being numerous foreigners in that company, would have the gift of tongues in different languages to those around them as a sign to any unbeliever still in their ranks.

Second is a foreign human language which requires an interpreter that the hearers may hear and be edified.

When spoken in the assembly, yes, since the whole point of the gifts is to profit all of the body of Christ. In outward ministry, God is speaking unto the unbelievers as a sign to the unbelievers.

And the third is NOT God speaking to humans, but humans speaking to God in a tongue "that no man understands" which is NOT a human language, his spirit is speaking to God (1 Cor. 14:2). So how does this fit into your view?

Not the context of Paul's message which was to exhort believers zealous of spiritual gifts to seek the gift of prophesy over all spiritual gifts from the get go since 1 Corinthians 14:1 and began to compare why prophesy is better than tongues because tongues is not a stand alone gift as testified in the OP. He repeats this emphasis in 1 Corinthians 14:12-13 & 1 Corinthians 14:26-27 but somehow modern day tongue speakers walk away as if tongues for private use is the gift to seek after when that was not the gift Paul was exhorting believers to seek after at all through out that chapter.

God's gift of tongues is for speaking unto the people for why it cannot sound like Pagan's supernatural tongues as found in the world before Pentecost.

Historical evidence of pagan's supernatural tongues as gibberish nonsense.

Pagan Practices | History of Tongues | Ecstatic Language!

Quoting from link "Ecstatic language was a common form of worship in pagan temples.i It was well established in Ancient Byblos (1100 BC). Plato (429-347 BC) mentions it as a phenomenon in his time. He tells us that a person under divine possession received utterances and visions that the receiver did not understand.

These utterances were sometimes accompanied by physical healing of people present. Virgil (70-19 BC) tells us that the Sibylline priestess, when in prayer, united her spirit with the god Apollo and spoke in strange tongues.ii End of quote

charismatic delusion: PAGAN TONGUES

Quoting from a second link as another source:
"The oldest account of tongues goes back as far as 1100 B.C. to the Byblos Osiris cult. Tongues have been used by the Tibetan monks, certain north American Indians, the halide Indians of the pacific northwest, the aborigines of Australia, the aboriginal peoples of the sub arctic regions of north America and Asia, the corianders of the ands, the dyads of Borneo, the Chaco Indians of south America, shamans in the Sudan, Siberia and Greenland, and in various cults (voodoo in Haiti, zoo in Ethiopia, tango on the west coast of Africa, sago in Trinidad; many of these with rituals centered around spirit possessions. The Gnostics, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, Quakers, Shakers, Seventh-day Adventists, Christian Scientist, and the W. Church of God all employ tongues.

John P. Kildahl’s concluded in his 1972 study “The Psychology of Speaking in Tongues” that "from a linguistic point of view, religiously inspired glossolalic utterances have the same general characteristics as those that are not religiously inspired." Glossolalia then is a purely "human phenomenon” and is “not limited to Christianity nor even to religious behavior." (Dictionary of Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements by Spittler, P. 340)

Felicitas D. Goodman, the psychological anthropologist and linguist, compared tape recordings of non-Christian rituals from Africa, Borneo, Indonesia and Japan. Goodman came to the same conclusion: "when all features of glossolalia were taken into consideration--that is, the segmental structure (such as sounds, syllables, phrases) and its suprasegmental elements (namely, rhythm, accent, and especially overall intonation)-- there was no distinction in glossolalia between Christian and pagan religions and that glossolalia "is, actually, a learned behavior, learned either unawarely or, sometimes consciously.”

(From "Speaking in Tongues: A Cross-Cultural Study in Glossolalia" by Felecitas D. Goodman, University of Chicago Press, 1972)

Indeed, people are carefully instructed on tongue speaking during the LIFE IN THE SPIRIT SEMINAR. " end of quote

That is why the apostle John is warning believers not to believe every spirit but test them and the tongues they bring. 1 John 4:2 is the same thing as Paul saying 2 Corinthians 13:5.

2 Corinthians 13: 5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

1 John 4:1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
 
@GodB4Us OK so you do not believe in speaking in tongues and the gifts of the Holy Spirit today - bully for you.
But sadly despite all your protestations Pentecostal Christian do speak in tongues when they are baptized in the Holy Spirit, just as Jesus declared they would.
In the end you are ascribing the signs and work of God's Holy Spirit to satan. Now that is an unforgivable sin.

Jude 1:17 But YE beloved, remember the words spoken before by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
18 that they said to you, In the last time mockers shall be, walking after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These are they who make separations, having only soul, not having Spirit.
20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,
21 keep yourselves in God’s love, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
 
Quoting from link "Ecstatic language was a common form of worship in pagan temples. It was well established in Ancient Byblos (1100 BC). Plato (429-347 BC) mentions it as a phenomenon in his time. He tells us that a person under divine possession received utterances and visions that the receiver did not understand.
These utterances were sometimes accompanied by physical healing of people present. Virgil (70-19 BC) tells us that the Sibylline priestess, when in prayer, united her spirit with the god Apollo and spoke in strange tongues. End of quote
What I learn from this is that speaking in "tongues" is spiritual - of divine origin. And proof of what Paul declares in 1Corinthians 13 where he writes of speaking in the tongues of men and of angels.

Tongues for Pentecostal disciples are God given - divine - spiritual - the evidence of baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all that heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision that believed were amazed, who came with Peter, because that on the nations also was poured out the gift of the Holy Spirit.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47 Can anyone forbid the water, that these should not be baptized, who have received the Holy Spirit as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then asked they him to tarry certain days.
 

Counter with 4 videos at this link

KENNETH HAGIN – FALSE TEACHER

That video before the last one fits the warning of the scripture posted at that site.

Jeremiah 23:30-32 “The Lord says, “I am AGAINST these PROPHETS who STEAL MESSAGES from EACH OTHER and CLAIM they are from ME. I am AGAINST these SMOOTH-TONGUED PROPHETS who say, ‘THIS PROPHECY IS FROM THE LORD!’ I am AGAINST these FALSE PROPHETS. Their IMAGINARY DREAMS are FLAGRANT LIES that LEAD MY PEOPLE INTO SIN. I did NOT SEND OR APPOINT THEM, and they have NO MESSAGE at all for MY PEOPLE. I, THE LORD HAVE SPOKEN

I do not know what bible version it is quoting from but the KJV is below.

Jeremiah 23:
30 Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, saith the Lord, that steal my words every one from his neighbour. 31 Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the Lord, that use their tongues, and say, He saith. 32 Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the Lord, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the Lord. KJV

One really has to wonder when he has a sermon full of scripture and yet the "Holy Spirit" would lead him away from edifying the church by the scripture to uncontrollable laughter? God is not the author of confusion.
 
@GodB4Us OK so you do not believe in speaking in tongues and the gifts of the Holy Spirit today - bully for you.
But sadly despite all your protestations Pentecostal Christian do speak in tongues when they are baptized in the Holy Spirit, just as Jesus declared they would.

I believe in God's gift of tongues is a foreign language that the believer does not know that the holy Spirit is manifesting to speak unto the people for why in the assembly it will come with interpretation to profit as in benefit all of the members in the body of Christ.

I do not believe God would become the author of confusion to turn His gift around from speaking unto the people to speaking in gibberish nonsense as found in the supernatural tongue in the world back to God.

How can we prove all things and abstain from all appearances of evil if God copy cat Satan's tongues as found in the world?

How can sinners know they have departed from those spirits and that kind of tongue if it is found in the Christian churches?

How can the churches know that these sinners have truly departed from those spirits and that kind of tongues if that kind of tongue is found in the Christian churches?

Therefore we are not to believe every spirit but test them by knowing the real indwelling Holy Ghost and Jesus Christ is in us as opposed to any spirit felt in the world or comes over us later in life as a saved believer, especially when they bring that kind of tongues which is not a foreign language for why many err by assuming it is for private use because they want that phenomenon and that tongue to be of God.

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

In the end you are ascribing the signs and work of God's Holy Spirit to Satan. Now that is an unforgivable sin.

This thread has scripture disproving that, brother. Since we are to test the spirits, and any spirit outside of us is the spirit of the antichrist that comes over us later in life as a saved believer, therefore that spirit cannot be the Holy Spirit when He has been in us since salvation. That is why that tongue is not God's gift of tongues because it is not coming with interpretation so you can understand it & benefit for why God's gift of tongues is not a stand alone gift; not even for private use.

What Is Blaspheming the Holy Ghost?
 
What I learn from this is that speaking in "tongues" is spiritual - of divine origin. And proof of what Paul declares in 1Corinthians 13 where he writes of speaking in the tongues of men and of angels.

That was explained in the OP as a hyperbole and the ending of that verse should prove that to you.

1 Corinthians 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
 
I believe in God's gift of tongues is a foreign language
Well you believe wrong.
I believed the scriptures and the full gospel as preached by Jesus and the apostles ..
I believed and I prayed to God to receive his Holy Spirit (after I was baptized in water).
I was baptized in the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues like all my Pentecostal brothers and sisters.
I instantly received my first miracles and was healed and set free from my addictions and other wickedness.
In the Revival Fellowship ALL those born from above can pray in tongues (pray in the Holy Spirit) directly to God as the scriptures declare.

1Cor 14:2 For who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men, but to God; for no one hears [understands]; but in spirit he speaks mysteries.
You are in denial of the truth of scripture.
1Cor 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
 
That was explained in the OP as a hyperbole and the ending of that verse should prove that to you.
It is conveniently hyperbole only for non-Pentecostals, but it is scripture and is consistent with the many other scriptures pertaining to praying in tongues.
 
How can we prove all things and abstain from all appearances of evil if God copy cat Satan's tongues as found in the world?
How can sinners know they have departed from those spirits and that kind of tongue if it is found in the Christian churches?
1Cor 14:21 In the law it is written, [that] By strange-tongued and by lips of strangers will I speak to this people; and not even thus will they hearken to me, says the Lord.
22 So that the tongues are for a sign, not to the believing, but to the unbelieving: but prophecy is not to the unbelieving, but to the believing.

1Cor 14:26 What is it then, brethren? When ye come together, each hath a psalm, hath a teaching, hath a revelation, hath a tongue, hath an interpretation. Let all things be unto edifying.
27 If any speaks in a tongue, let it be by two, or at the most three, and in turn; and let one interpret:
28 but if there be no interpreter, let him be silent in church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
29 And let prophets speak by two or three, and let the others discern.

1Cor 14:37 If any thinketh himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him take knowledge of what things I write you, that it is the Lord’s commandment.
38 But if any is ignorant, let him be ignorant.
39 So then, my brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
40 But let all things be done decently and in order.
 
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