Does one get saved by??

[PloughBoy]

You're right nobody can snatch the sheep out of the Father's hand. But Jesus did not say that His true followers couldn't ultimately fail due to fault of their own., to fall off the path of righteousness. But there are plenty of warnings to that. effect that we need to know. 1Cor 15:2 - " By which you are saved, IF you hold fast that word I preached to you unless you believed in vain ". Heb 3:14 " For we become partakers of Christ IF we hold the beginning of our confidence Steadfast to the end. The word IF usually denotes a condition to follow. !Matt 24:13 " But he WhO endures to the end SHALL be saved" . too many warnings to list. The doctrine of eternal security or once saved always saves is not found in the Bible since there is a risk of losing it.

So in other words, GOD should have gotten you to write "The Bible" and you would have written "Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord, "MIGHT BE SAVED"!
Instead of writing a false statement such as (Romans 10:13)

(Romans 10)
12For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek: for the same Lord is Lord of all, and is rich unto all that call upon him: 13for, Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

So the Words of God "SHALL BE SAVED" in this context is great Big LIE! and should Be replace by your "Authoritative words" "Might be saved"

Your interpretation of "HOLY Scripture" are lace with errors of understanding, not understanding the audience in which the writer is addressing and for what cause and reason he has taken on such a approach. And also mix the city culture of Corinth A.D. 56 and what they where dealing without any guide lines or written structure or The New Testament text with The Hebrews Letter that was written around A.D. 68 just before The fall of Jerusalem A.D. 70. In which our Lord Prophecy about the fall of Jerusalem in about or around 34-41 A.D.. When He gave the" Olivet Discourse". In which case many have not understood because of those who have lead them into something they do not understand. Reason: By not properly reading the text in "the Language syntax" in this case "english syntax" that describe three entirely events. In which The Book of Matthew was recorded or written in or around A.D. 50, and Jesus died between maybe 30-36 A.D. So one must be careful in comparing events of understanding of different era's of presentations. Like many of readers in our day and time, thinking that the earlier "Saints' or the People of "The WAY" had bibles or The New Testament writings in their "Assembly" and many do not understand most letters of The New Testaments was addressing errors concerning the saints, because of the mixtures of other "religions' that ran rampant in those times. For christianity had not even establish it's name yet, but only a new kind of religion on the Block. Remember also "the GOD Fearers" who have not even heard of "The Holy Spirit" and many places who have heard about Jesus by word of mouth but no guide lines, a lot of places had more than One wife, they still had Old Testament customs. That is why in the Pastoral Epistles it says a Pastor should have only one wife, it did not say anything about the rest of the men, until later on in other Epistles that was past on to other cities.

The thing that I am trying to get across, "The Bible" should be read 1st and read again and again in whole contents, time after time again, and GOD will open the Light. and before you know it, you will be studying it, with GOD as your Guide. and you must have a GOOD and excellent "Translations" at least 3 ones.

"Nominal Christians" floods our churches, they are the ones who people think are the 'True Children of GOD' But the "Nominals' are the ones who falls away, from GOD but not the church and never return because they Never became a "NEW CREATURE" in Christ Jesus' They are the "APOSTATES" they look like good and great christians for they are! But They do not act like or talk like a "True Child of GOD" That Was "BORN of HIS Spirit" and wash In His BLOOD" It takes time and years for a True Child of GOD to grow up and "Scars from the whip of GOD" because when GOD, discipline HIs Child, the Devil gets out of the Way and hides! Because GOD's whip produces "HOLINESS"! He will put that "ROD" on your back and That "Staff" around your neck! He makes you lie down in green pastures! A" nominal christian" will not come back to seeking GOD. for they do not belong to the Shepherd, But if that Sheep belongs to this Shepherd, He will come and get you! And believe me He can find you! That Staff is not only for the wolf, it is for you too! You have been bought with a price! You do not belong to yourself! You are Own and a "SLAVE" and Have a "MASTER"! and If you think, He is going to let you run away, you must be a fool, He will send His Angels to HUNT YOU DOWN! "ONCE OWN, ALWAYS OWN" you have been paid for! Buy The Blood of Jesus! Run away, you will see! when he get through with you, you will not run away again! when night time comes, you will wish it was day, when the day comes you will wish it was night" Now that is what you call "The Agape of GOD"

You see "Nominal Christians" loves to go to church and enjoy church services!

By the rivers of Babylon,
There we sat down and wept,
When we remembered Zion.
Upon the willows in the midst of it
We hung our harps.
For there our captors demanded of us songs,
And our tormentors, jubilation, saying,
“Sing for us one of the songs of Zion!”

And God told Ezekiel:
"As for you, son of man, your people are talking about you near the city walls and in the doorways of their houses. One speaks to another, each saying to his brother, ‘Come and hear the message that has come from the LORD!’ So My people come to you as usual,sit before you, and hear your words; but they do not put them into practice. Although they express love with their mouths, their hearts pursue dishonest gain. Indeed, you are to them like a singer of love songs with a beautiful voice, who skillfully plays an instrument. They hear your words but do not put them into practice.…"

"Yes they love to go to Church" for GOD has said so!

Freely I receive, freely I give

cost you not 1 dime

 

[Brightfame52]

This verse is actually about loving money.
This is a quote of the old testament. Where did He originally say this? For He has said... (He didn't say this anywhere in the new testament)
Deut 31:6;

God never left the Jews while they were wandering around the wilderness. Their clothes never wore out, he fed them (quail and manna) He gave them a cloud to follow by day
and fire to follow by night. But even though God was with them, they didn't all make it to the promised land.

Since you're quoting Hebrews here...

Heb 3:7; Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says, "TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE,
Heb 3:8; DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS AS WHEN THEY PROVOKED ME, AS IN THE DAY OF TRIAL IN THE WILDERNESS,
Heb 3:9; WHERE YOUR FATHERS TRIED Me BY TESTING Me, AND SAW MY WORKS FOR FORTY YEARS.
Heb 3:10; "THEREFORE I WAS ANGRY WITH THIS GENERATION, AND SAID, 'THEY ALWAYS GO ASTRAY IN THEIR HEART, AND THEY DID NOT KNOW MY WAYS';
Heb 3:11; AS I SWORE IN MY WRATH, 'THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST.'"
Heb 3:12; Take care, brethren, that there not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God.
Heb 3:13; But encourage one another day after day, as long as it is still called "Today," so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin.
Heb 3:14; For we have become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our assurance firm until the end,
Heb 3:15; while it is said, "TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE, DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS, AS WHEN THEY PROVOKED ME."
Heb 3:16; For who provoked Him when they had heard? Indeed, did not all those who came out of Egypt led by Moses?
Heb 3:17; And with whom was He angry for forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose bodies fell in the wilderness?

So the promise is I will never leave or forsake thee

 

[B-A-C]

So the promise is I will never leave or forsake thee

However plenty forsook Him.

Deut 29:25; "Then men will say, 'Because they forsook the covenant of the LORD, the God of their fathers, which He made with them when He brought them out of the land of Egypt.
Deut 32:15; "But Jeshurun grew fat and kicked—You are grown fat, thick, and sleek—Then he forsook God who made him, And scorned the Rock of his salvation.
Jdg 2:12; and they forsook the LORD, the God of their fathers, who had brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other gods from among the gods of the peoples who were around them, and bowed themselves down to them; thus they provoked the LORD to anger.
Jdg 2:13; So they forsook the LORD and served Baal and the Ashtaroth.
Jdg 10:6; Then the sons of Israel again did evil in the sight of the LORD, served the Baals and the Ashtaroth, the gods of Aram, the gods of Sidon, the gods of Moab, the gods of the sons of Ammon, and the gods of the Philistines; thus they forsook the LORD and did not serve Him.
1Kin 9:9; "And they will say, 'Because they forsook the LORD their God, who brought their fathers out of the land of Egypt, and adopted other gods and worshiped them and served them, therefore the LORD has brought all this adversity on them.'"
2Kin 17:16; They forsook all the commandments of the LORD their God and made for themselves molten images, even two calves, and made an Asherah and worshiped all the host of heaven and served Baal.
2Kin 21:22; So he forsook the LORD, the God of his fathers, and did not walk in the way of the LORD.
2Chr 7:22; "And they will say, 'Because they forsook the LORD, the God of their fathers who brought them from the land of Egypt, and they adopted other gods and worshiped them and served them; therefore He has brought all this adversity on them.'"
2Chr 12:1; When the kingdom of Rehoboam was established and strong, he and all Israel with him forsook the law of the LORD.
Isa 54:7; "For a brief moment I forsook you, But with great compassion I will gather you.
Jer 22:9; "Then they will answer, 'Because they forsook the covenant of the LORD their God and bowed down to other gods and served them.'"

Even if He never leaves you, there's no guarantee you it to heaven (the promised land).

 

[Brightfame52]

However plenty forsook Him.

Deut 29:25; "Then men will say, 'Because they forsook the covenant of the LORD, the God of their fathers, which He made with them when He brought them out of the land of Egypt.
Deut 32:15; "But Jeshurun grew fat and kicked—You are grown fat, thick, and sleek—Then he forsook God who made him, And scorned the Rock of his salvation.
Jdg 2:12; and they forsook the LORD, the God of their fathers, who had brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other gods from among the gods of the peoples who were around them, and bowed themselves down to them; thus they provoked the LORD to anger.
Jdg 2:13; So they forsook the LORD and served Baal and the Ashtaroth.
Jdg 10:6; Then the sons of Israel again did evil in the sight of the LORD, served the Baals and the Ashtaroth, the gods of Aram, the gods of Sidon, the gods of Moab, the gods of the sons of Ammon, and the gods of the Philistines; thus they forsook the LORD and did not serve Him.
1Kin 9:9; "And they will say, 'Because they forsook the LORD their God, who brought their fathers out of the land of Egypt, and adopted other gods and worshiped them and served them, therefore the LORD has brought all this adversity on them.'"
2Kin 17:16; They forsook all the commandments of the LORD their God and made for themselves molten images, even two calves, and made an Asherah and worshiped all the host of heaven and served Baal.
2Kin 21:22; So he forsook the LORD, the God of his fathers, and did not walk in the way of the LORD.
2Chr 7:22; "And they will say, 'Because they forsook the LORD, the God of their fathers who brought them from the land of Egypt, and they adopted other gods and worshiped them and served them; therefore He has brought all this adversity on them.'"
2Chr 12:1; When the kingdom of Rehoboam was established and strong, he and all Israel with him forsook the law of the LORD.
Isa 54:7; "For a brief moment I forsook you, But with great compassion I will gather you.
Jer 22:9; "Then they will answer, 'Because they forsook the covenant of the LORD their God and bowed down to other gods and served them.'"

Even if He never leaves you, there's no guarantee you it to heaven (the promised land).

But He promised to never foresake them !

 

[judge not]

Well , the churches has a way to get saved, for i see most have listed the churches way to get saved. And God has a way to get saved and God way is different from the churches i see.

God way is by is son, and I notice God the Father said: you cannot get to Jesus or come to him unless I "drags" [greek word] english word draws you.
New American Standard Bible
"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him"

John 6:65
Then Jesus said, "This is why I told you that no one can come to Me unless the Father has granted it to him."
John 8:43
Why do ye not understand my speech? evenbecause ye cannot hear my word.

You can knock all you want too, and call on Jesus, name and ask Him to save you, But GOD the Father has the last word. Jesus saves those who The Father wants to be saved. He obeys His Father! and do not give Him the back lip. Or ask Him why. Why he saves this one and don't saved that one. His sits right now on The right Hand of The Father making intercession for "HIS OWN" and not everybody but for his own. And why is He making 'Intercession' and to who?

American Standard Version
Wherefore also he is able to save to the uttermost them that draw near unto God through him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

…23“Lord,” someone asked Him, “will only a few people be saved?” Jesus answered, 24“Make every effort to enter through the narrow door.For many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able. 25After the master of the house gets up and shuts the door, you will stand outside knocking and saying, ‘Lord, open the door for us.’ But he will reply, ‘I do not know where you are from.’

When he shuts the door, game over! " Behold, now is the time of favor; now is the day of salvation!" Not tomorrow, NOW!, Not next week, Not when i get a husband a wife, NOW! Not when i get a new Job, a new car, NOW! Not when i find a new church, NOW, Not Sunday Morning, NOW is the Day of your Salvation. Not when I take the preacher's hand, NOW, Not when you get baptize, NOW!!! "LORD what ever it Takes "Save Me", You save me, Nor man or beast, you save Me! No church nor Baptizing pool nor wave of the hand, You save me LORD all by yourself! Talk to HIM, you want no house , no car, no money, Tell Him You want HIM to save you! RIGHT NOW! In the middle of The street, or at the dinner table, or at The Drug Dealers house! GOD does not care where you are at when HE saves You! He will save you at The ***** house, The cave, The Bar, The gambling Table, The Out house, on The Street Corner, on the beach, He will save you standing on a "Tree limb" or a "Fox hole" with a 'Military Rife" in your hands.. Without a preacher on sight! Now That is The GOD I know! Now is The Time, Now is The Hour, Now is the Minute of Your Salvation! For There is nothing Impossible with GOD! He needs No help to save you! He knows How to draw you!

One gets saved by 'The Power of GOD' which has No bounds! For His POWER is 'Incomprehensible" and unlimited, HE raises 'The Dead" He makes things that does not exists from nothing. For He made "Eternity" itself. if "Eternity" is a place, GOD made it!

Colossians 1:16
For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him.
New American Standard Bible
All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being.
John 1:10
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

"Believeth Thou This"

God is not trying to save everybody now only those He is calling. They are to be His first fruits in the first resurrection. REV 20 SHOWS the rest of the dead, every one else who ever lived will be resurrected to be given a chance at salvation in order to be in the Kingdom of God during the great second resurrection.

 

[PloughBoy]

God is not trying to save everybody now only those He is calling. They are to be His first fruits in the first resurrection. REV 20 SHOWS the rest of the dead, every one else who ever lived will be resurrected to be given a chance at salvation in order to be in the Kingdom of God during the great second resurrection.

THROUGH OUT, "HOLY Scripture" not translations "Holy Scripture" God has never had a plan to save everybody and have let that be known> For over a 100 times i have read the complete bible from front to back with a Reliable and Excellent translation of the "Original Copied Manuscript" Textus Receptus, The Codex Sinaiticus, Codex Alexandrian, Codex Vaticanus. and It remains the same, there have always been "A Remnant According to Grace" and a time GOD has called Them "His OUTCAST"! Through out "Holy Scripture" from "Genesis to Revelations" the words have not change and "written upon the Tables of My Heart" my very Being, every word that is record in "The Book"! and running through the fields of my mind. Not only is ALL the Word of God is in me, but it "Dwells Richly" in my whole being.
NASB 1977
Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you, with all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God.

So keep reading The Book in the Whole Context of "Holy Scripture" and cast away weak translations and Paraphrases and those who would like to Translate it and Interpreted as if it was "Holy Scripture" as The "Word of GOD" Satan is the God of This World, and The Publishing Houses belongs to Him too!
(2 Cor.2:11)
Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

2 Corinthians 11:3,14
But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ…