In a sense man has the risk of losing salvation if they stray away from the truth and fall from grace.
Does one get saved by??
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By no means, as mentioned, you cannot earn salvation. Jesus himself sets those conditions.
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salvation produces works, works does not produce salvation...
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Why is there such confusion about this? What do churches teach people seriously.
There is one verse that says we don't get by works...
Eph 2:9; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Then there are 3 or 4 verses about works "of the law".
Rom 3:20; because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.
Rom 3:28; For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.
Gal 3:2; This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?
Gal 3:5; So then, does He who provides you with the Spirit and works miracles among you, do it by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?
It's true neither one of these things can save you. There is a before and after. You can't earn salvation by works. Before you are saved, there is nothing you can do to get saved on your own.
Then there are the works of the law. Animal sacrifices, circumcision, confession to priests, the passover blood, and sackcloth and ashes for penance.
These things do absolutely nothing to help you in regards to salvation.
But then the New Testament have over 50 verses that talk about works. Works are absolutely required by Christians.
Jas 2:14; What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him?
Jas 2:17; Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself.
Jas 2:20; But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless?
Jas 2:24; You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.
After you are saved, works are required. Now there is a lot of debate about where the works come from, are the a result of being saved... perhaps, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter
where they come from... you better have something to show for your work or else.
Matt 25:14; "For it is just like a man about to go on a journey, who called his own slaves and entrusted his possessions to them.
Matt 25:15; "To one he gave five talents, to another, two, and to another, one, each according to his own ability; and he went on his journey.
Matt 25:16; "Immediately the one who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and gained five more talents.
Matt 25:17; "In the same manner the one who had received the two talents gained two more.
Matt 25:18; "But he who received the one talent went away, and dug a hole in the ground and hid his master's money.
Matt 25:19; "Now after a long time the master of those slaves *came and *settled accounts with them.
Matt 25:20; "The one who had received the five talents came up and brought five more talents, saying, 'Master, you entrusted five talents to me. See, I have gained five more talents.'
Matt 25:21; "His master said to him, 'Well done, good and faithful slave. You were faithful with a few things, I will put you in charge of many things; enter into the joy of your master.'
Matt 25:22; "Also the one who had received the two talents came up and said, 'Master, you entrusted two talents to me. See, I have gained two more talents.'
Matt 25:23; "His master said to him, 'Well done, good and faithful slave. You were faithful with a few things, I will put you in charge of many things; enter into the joy of your master.'
Matt 25:24; "And the one also who had received the one talent came up and said, 'Master, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you did not sow and gathering where you scattered no seed.
Matt 25:25; 'And I was afraid, and went away and hid your talent in the ground. See, you have what is yours.'
Matt 25:26; "But his master answered and said to him, 'You wicked, lazy slave, you knew that I reap where I did not sow and gather where I scattered no seed.
Matt 25:27; 'Then you ought to have put my money in the bank, and on my arrival I would have received my money back with interest.
Matt 25:28; 'Therefore take away the talent from him, and give it to the one who has the ten talents.'
Matt 25:29; "For to everyone who has, more shall be given, and he will have an abundance; but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away.
Matt 25:30; "Throw out the worthless slave into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
At the end of the day, you better have done something with what He gave you. Simply doing nothing isn't going to work.
Matt 25:31; "But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne.
Matt 25:32; "All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats;
Matt 25:33; and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left.
Matt 25:34; "Then the King will say to those on His right, 'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
Matt 25:35; 'For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in;
Matt 25:36; naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.'
Matt 25:37; "Then the righteous will answer Him, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink?
Matt 25:38; 'And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You?
Matt 25:39; 'When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?'
Matt 25:40; "The King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.'
Matt 25:41; "Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;
Matt 25:42; for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink;
Matt 25:43; I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.'
Matt 25:44; "Then they themselves also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?'
Matt 25:45; "Then He will answer them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.'
Matt 25:46; "These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
At the end of the day, you better have done something to help someone, simply doing nothing isn't going to work.
Luke 13:6; And He began telling this parable: "A man had a fig tree which had been planted in his vineyard; and he came looking for fruit on it and did not find any.
Luke 13:7; "And he said to the vineyard-keeper, 'Behold, for three years I have come looking for fruit on this fig tree without finding any. Cut it down! Why does it even use up the ground?'
Luke 13:8; "And he answered and said to him, 'Let it alone, sir, for this year too, until I dig around it and put in fertilizer;
Luke 13:9; and if it bears fruit next year, fine; but if not, cut it down.'"
Some trees refuse to bear fruit, even with Jesus watering and fertilizing them. But at the end of the day ( 3 years in this case ) you better be bearing fruit or else.
All this talk about nothing is required of you, and theres nothing you can do to determine when you spend eternity is a bunch of hogwash.
What you do, how you live absolutely determines where you spend eternity.
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Matt 5:16; "Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.
John 9:4; "We must work the works of Him who sent Me as long as it is day; night is coming when no one can work.
John 14:12; "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father.
Rom 4:4; Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due.
Eph 2:10; For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.
Col 1:29; For this purpose also I labor, striving according to His power, which mightily works within me.
1Tim 2:10; but rather by means of good works, as is proper for women making a claim to godliness.
1Tim 5:10; having a reputation for good works; and if she has brought up children, if she has shown hospitality to strangers, if she has washed the saints' feet, if she has assisted those in distress, and if she has devoted herself to every good work.
1Tim 6:18; Instruct them to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share,
Jas 2:22; You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected;
John 9:4; "We must work the works of Him who sent Me as long as it is day; night is coming when no one can work.
John 14:12; "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father.
Rom 4:4; Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due.
Eph 2:10; For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.
Col 1:29; For this purpose also I labor, striving according to His power, which mightily works within me.
1Tim 2:10; but rather by means of good works, as is proper for women making a claim to godliness.
1Tim 5:10; having a reputation for good works; and if she has brought up children, if she has shown hospitality to strangers, if she has washed the saints' feet, if she has assisted those in distress, and if she has devoted herself to every good work.
1Tim 6:18; Instruct them to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share,
Jas 2:22; You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected;
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It is of course possible to fall short of grace, and become defiled.
Heb 12:15; See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled;
Also you sealed until the day of redemption. But what about after that?
Eph 4:30; Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
You still have to face the judgment.
2Cor 5:10; For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.
Many who had the Holy Spirit will fall away.
Heb 6:4; For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit,
Heb 6:5; and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,
Heb 6:6; and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.
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Of course He chose Judas too.
John 6:70; Jesus answered them, "Did I Myself not choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is a devil?"
But in reality He chose the whole world.
2Pet 3:9; The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
1Tim 2:3; This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1Tim 2:4; who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
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Matt 7:21; "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
Matt 7:22; "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
Matt 7:23; "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
Not everyone who believes Jesus is their Lord will be saved. If they keep practicing sin ( lawlessness ) Jesus doesn't know you.
1Jn 2:3; By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments.
1Jn 2:4; The one who says, "I have come to know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him;
If you're not obeying the commandments, you don't know Jesus and He doesn't know you.
John 5:28; "Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice,
John 5:29; and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.
It doesn't say those who believed in Jesus will go to a resurrection of life. It says those who did good deeds will. If you're doing evil deeds, it doesn't matter
what you believe in.
John 3:36; "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
Your trusting in Jesus, that's great. Are you obeying Him?
Matt 7:22; "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
Matt 7:23; "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
Not everyone who believes Jesus is their Lord will be saved. If they keep practicing sin ( lawlessness ) Jesus doesn't know you.
1Jn 2:3; By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments.
1Jn 2:4; The one who says, "I have come to know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him;
If you're not obeying the commandments, you don't know Jesus and He doesn't know you.
John 5:28; "Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice,
John 5:29; and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.
It doesn't say those who believed in Jesus will go to a resurrection of life. It says those who did good deeds will. If you're doing evil deeds, it doesn't matter
what you believe in.
John 3:36; "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
Your trusting in Jesus, that's great. Are you obeying Him?
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"I operate under the premise of sola scriptural not hermeneutics." so you say.
I know, you operate under the premise of "sola Scriptural not hermeneutics' But "Your Translation or Paraphrase you use, operates off the premise of "Methodology & Hermeneutics" of "The Original Copied Manuscript" of "Holy Scripture" in which it is, without error! That has only "One True Meaning" but has had many applications"!
Yes Salvation does comes with Conditions! And GOD does not lie!
(John 6)
“Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Jesus replied. “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws >[drags] him, and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the Prophets: ‘And they will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from Him comes to Me—…
Hosea 11:4
"I led them with cords of kindness, with ropes of love; I lifted the yoke from their necks and bent down to feed them."
John 6:65
And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
It seems to me: "judge not" you are doing a lot of "boasting" about how men adds unto their "salvation" and what you have done to contribute to your own self that has put you into a position so that you have obtain and what you have done and others have not to reward your own self "Eternal Life". Your Chest seems to me stuck out with your thumbs behind your suspenders and looking like "Charles Haddon Spurgeon" with a cigar in his mouth, and celebrating what you have done by your faith and others have not, and have won the grand reward! And GOD has called you up to "The Podium" and put a "Blue Ribbon" around your neck!
But God Has Said!
"For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not a result of works, so that no one may boast."
Romans 9:16
So then, it does not depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy.
And Let this be known to every "True Child of GOD" "Born of His Spirit and wash in HIS BLOOD" " Born of GOD" "A Brand New Creature"
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or anguish, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Even as it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; We were accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
WE ARE SEALED! By The "HOLY SPIRIT" of GOD! "NOMINAL CHRISTIANS" you are not included in this number! You are not one of us!
“I already told you,” Jesus replied, “but you did not believe. The works I do in My Father’s name testify on My behalf. But because you are not My sheep, you refuse to believe. My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. NO ONE CAN snatch them out of My hand. "MY FATHER" who has given them to Me is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of My Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.”
Yes You "Nominal Christians" can lose your Salvation, Because you never had it in the 1st place! Just because you believe Jesus Is The Christ does not save you! Just because you " said a few words and went through a Ceremony Baptism does not win you the Prize! "Salvation and Faith is a GIFT from GOD and not EARN" For it is By Grace are you SAVED through FAITH and That Faith did not come of YOUR SELF! GOD GAVE it to you! Saving Grace, Saving Faith!
"Nominal Christians" have "VAIN FAITH"! and Not Saving Faith! "Why call me LORD, LORD and do nothing I say" or "believe my words and you try to lead my people astray by your words! They are not your Sheep and They will not hear your words! Only strangers will hear your words! My Sheep Will Not Follow strangers! And My Sheep are Few in numbers and I know Them by NAME! and they know MY Voice! And Our GOD Cannot Lie! But man will.
Be ye "COLD or HOT"
"Jeremiah mode"
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I certainly dont believe that. Thats lets me know that you believe salvation in some way is dependent upon man !
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Again, typical salvation by works.
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Dear Brother,
Of course for none of us are dead yet, except those who don't believe, and we still have a road to travel. I am of the belief that God won't force you to be with Him if you don't want Him! So, many fall away, and those who grieve the Holy Spirit, which can of the same who fall away, are making a choice decision here or do you believe its something else?
As far as judgment. Everyone faces judgment, however, not everyone has a Defense Attorney like we do Brother!
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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You need to read your complete Bible again! either your are young in the faith, or plain lazy in "Biblical studies" through out the years and have not burn the mid-night oil.
Berean Study Bible [good shepherd]
What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep and one of them goes astray, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the hills and go out to search for the one that is lost?
Bad shepherd:
Ezekiel 34:4
You have not strengthened the weak, healed the sick, bound up the injured, brought back the strays, or searched for the lost. Instead, you have ruled them with violence and cruelty.
Ezekiel 34:6,12
My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them…
And GOD the Father Corrects HIS Children but "Nominal Christians" he leaves them to their selves. They can stray all they want too! But GOD the Father "Whips" the Living Tar out of His children after they have stray a few times!
GOD Discipline His Sons
3For consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners against Himself, lest you become weary and discouraged in your souls. 4You have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin. 5And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons:
“My son, do not despise the [c]chastening of the Lord,
Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;
6For whom the Lord loves He chastens,
And scourges every son whom He receives.”
7If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? 8But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. 9Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live? 10For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness. 11Now no ]chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
GOD the Father Trains us By [Chastening and Scourging] in which All HIS Sons are partakers! It produces "Holiness" His "ROD" and HIS "STAFF" comforts us! He "MAKES" us to lie down in green pastures!!! Evidently you do not understand what a "Shepherd Staff" is use for and why GOD uses "Anthropomorphic words' to convey some truth. And that Sheep are very smart animals and they Learn a lot from the Good Shepherd in time and he knows how to train them.
You cannot fall from saving grace, because it is not earn, it is a gift, without repentance. but "benevolent grace" is a different story in which all are partakers.
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for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. when God gives you a gift, He does not take it back!
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For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable [for He does not withdraw what He has given, nor does He change His mind about those to whom He gives His grace or to whom He sends His call].
You got to know "The Word of GOD" so that you will not be "Blowed by every wind and doctrine" you must put it in you and the "Holy Spirit" will bring it back to your Remembrance.
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AMEN !!
Ephesians 4:1
I therefore, a prisoner for the Lord, urge you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling to which you have been called,
Colossians 1:10
So as to walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to him, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God.
1 Thessalonians 2:12
We exhorted each one of you and encouraged you and charged you to walk in a manner worthy of God, who calls you into his own kingdom and glory.
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By Judas, according to OT Prophecy was the Avenue for our salvation according to the will of GOD And Prophecy cannot be broken. For GOD had ordain it before The Foundation of The World, woven into the very fabric of our creation, redemption and Sanctification and Glorification of "The Glory of GOD" that we might be shape into The Image of "The Son of The Living GOD" with Full and shared "Inheritance" That "The Father" is going to present To HIS, only begotten SON at His Ceremony Dinner The Presentation That The Father is going to GIVE HIs SON, The Expression of "The Almighty GOD" a "Gift"to a SON whom He LOVES, That will "RADIANT' THROUGHOUT Eternity" and every moment will be brighter than the moment that was before!
(1 John 3)BSB
Behold what manner of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God. And that is what we are! The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know Him. Beloved, we are now children of God, and what we will be has not yet been revealed. We know that when Christ appears, we will be like Him, for we will see Him as He is. And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as Christ is pure.…
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Can I have a AMEN
If I cannot get a encouragement, I will encourage Myself ! And dance the dance of DAVID in The middle of The Streets! even if I have to dance by Myself !!
And snap my fingers!
And if that does not make you happy shame on you! Thank GOD for "The Word of GOD" "Living and Powerful" and His "SPIRIT" that shows us "The Things to COME" in His Truth!
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Maybe - it depends totally on WHY they responded to the "Alter Call", and WHY they Prayed. If they were just "being religious" then it was all for nothing.
IF they were convicted of their SIN, and of impending JUDGEMENT by the Holy Spirit, and REPENTED under conviction of their SIN, and Called out to God IN FAITH (that He gifts), then they became Born Again Christian Believers, were infilled by the Holy Spirit,and were CHANGED by Him. THEN begins the Christian's walk until Physical Death wherein they "GROW IN MATURITY" and learn ever MORE of Him.
You're right nobody can snatch the sheep out of the Father's hand. But Jesus did not say that His true followers couldn't ultimately fail due to fault of their own., to fall off the path of righteousness. But there are plenty of warnings to that. effect that we need to know. 1Cor 15:2 - " By which you are saved, IF you hold fast that word I preached to you unless you believed in vain ". Heb 3:14 " For we become partakers of Christ IF we hold the beginning of our confidence Steadfast to the end. The word IF usually denotes a condition to follow. !Matt 24:13 " But he WhO endures to the end SHALL be saved" . too many warnings to list. The doctrine of eternal security or once saved always saves is not found in the Bible since there is a risk of losing it.
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Jesus says He will never leave His Sheep Heb 13:5-8
5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. 6 So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me. 7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation. 8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
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Well , the churches has a way to get saved, for i see most have listed the churches way to get saved. And God has a way to get saved and God way is different from the churches i see.
God way is by is son, and I notice God the Father said: you cannot get to Jesus or come to him unless I "drags" [greek word] english word draws you.
New American Standard Bible
"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him"
John 6:65
Then Jesus said, "This is why I told you that no one can come to Me unless the Father has granted it to him."
John 8:43
Why do ye not understand my speech? evenbecause ye cannot hear my word.
You can knock all you want too, and call on Jesus, name and ask Him to save you, But GOD the Father has the last word. Jesus saves those who The Father wants to be saved. He obeys His Father! and do not give Him the back lip. Or ask Him why. Why he saves this one and don't saved that one. His sits right now on The right Hand of The Father making intercession for "HIS OWN" and not everybody but for his own. And why is He making 'Intercession' and to who?
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Wherefore also he is able to save to the uttermost them that draw near unto God through him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
…23“Lord,” someone asked Him, “will only a few people be saved?” Jesus answered, 24“Make every effort to enter through the narrow door.For many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able. 25After the master of the house gets up and shuts the door, you will stand outside knocking and saying, ‘Lord, open the door for us.’ But he will reply, ‘I do not know where you are from.’
When he shuts the door, game over! " Behold, now is the time of favor; now is the day of salvation!" Not tomorrow, NOW!, Not next week, Not when i get a husband a wife, NOW! Not when i get a new Job, a new car, NOW! Not when i find a new church, NOW, Not Sunday Morning, NOW is the Day of your Salvation. Not when I take the preacher's hand, NOW, Not when you get baptize, NOW!!! "LORD what ever it Takes "Save Me", You save me, Nor man or beast, you save Me! No church nor Baptizing pool nor wave of the hand, You save me LORD all by yourself! Talk to HIM, you want no house , no car, no money, Tell Him You want HIM to save you! RIGHT NOW! In the middle of The street, or at the dinner table, or at The Drug Dealers house! GOD does not care where you are at when HE saves You! He will save you at The ***** house, The cave, The Bar, The gambling Table, The Out house, on The Street Corner, on the beach, He will save you standing on a "Tree limb" or a "Fox hole" with a 'Military Rife" in your hands.. Without a preacher on sight! Now That is The GOD I know! Now is The Time, Now is The Hour, Now is the Minute of Your Salvation! For There is nothing Impossible with GOD! He needs No help to save you! He knows How to draw you!
One gets saved by 'The Power of GOD' which has No bounds! For His POWER is 'Incomprehensible" and unlimited, HE raises 'The Dead" He makes things that does not exists from nothing. For He made "Eternity" itself. if "Eternity" is a place, GOD made it!
Colossians 1:16
For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him.
New American Standard Bible
All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being.
John 1:10
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
"Believeth Thou This"
God way is by is son, and I notice God the Father said: you cannot get to Jesus or come to him unless I "drags" [greek word] english word draws you.
New American Standard Bible
"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him"
John 6:65
Then Jesus said, "This is why I told you that no one can come to Me unless the Father has granted it to him."
John 8:43
Why do ye not understand my speech? evenbecause ye cannot hear my word.
You can knock all you want too, and call on Jesus, name and ask Him to save you, But GOD the Father has the last word. Jesus saves those who The Father wants to be saved. He obeys His Father! and do not give Him the back lip. Or ask Him why. Why he saves this one and don't saved that one. His sits right now on The right Hand of The Father making intercession for "HIS OWN" and not everybody but for his own. And why is He making 'Intercession' and to who?
American Standard Version
Wherefore also he is able to save to the uttermost them that draw near unto God through him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
…23“Lord,” someone asked Him, “will only a few people be saved?” Jesus answered, 24“Make every effort to enter through the narrow door.For many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able. 25After the master of the house gets up and shuts the door, you will stand outside knocking and saying, ‘Lord, open the door for us.’ But he will reply, ‘I do not know where you are from.’
When he shuts the door, game over! " Behold, now is the time of favor; now is the day of salvation!" Not tomorrow, NOW!, Not next week, Not when i get a husband a wife, NOW! Not when i get a new Job, a new car, NOW! Not when i find a new church, NOW, Not Sunday Morning, NOW is the Day of your Salvation. Not when I take the preacher's hand, NOW, Not when you get baptize, NOW!!! "LORD what ever it Takes "Save Me", You save me, Nor man or beast, you save Me! No church nor Baptizing pool nor wave of the hand, You save me LORD all by yourself! Talk to HIM, you want no house , no car, no money, Tell Him You want HIM to save you! RIGHT NOW! In the middle of The street, or at the dinner table, or at The Drug Dealers house! GOD does not care where you are at when HE saves You! He will save you at The ***** house, The cave, The Bar, The gambling Table, The Out house, on The Street Corner, on the beach, He will save you standing on a "Tree limb" or a "Fox hole" with a 'Military Rife" in your hands.. Without a preacher on sight! Now That is The GOD I know! Now is The Time, Now is The Hour, Now is the Minute of Your Salvation! For There is nothing Impossible with GOD! He needs No help to save you! He knows How to draw you!
One gets saved by 'The Power of GOD' which has No bounds! For His POWER is 'Incomprehensible" and unlimited, HE raises 'The Dead" He makes things that does not exists from nothing. For He made "Eternity" itself. if "Eternity" is a place, GOD made it!
Colossians 1:16
For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him.
New American Standard Bible
All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being.
John 1:10
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
"Believeth Thou This"
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This verse is actually about loving money.
This is a quote of the old testament. Where did He originally say this? For He has said... (He didn't say this anywhere in the new testament)
Deut 31:6;
God never left the Jews while they were wandering around the wilderness. Their clothes never wore out, he fed them (quail and manna) He gave them a cloud to follow by day
and fire to follow by night. But even though God was with them, they didn't all make it to the promised land.
Since you're quoting Hebrews here...
Heb 3:7; Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says, "TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE,
Heb 3:8; DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS AS WHEN THEY PROVOKED ME, AS IN THE DAY OF TRIAL IN THE WILDERNESS,
Heb 3:9; WHERE YOUR FATHERS TRIED Me BY TESTING Me, AND SAW MY WORKS FOR FORTY YEARS.
Heb 3:10; "THEREFORE I WAS ANGRY WITH THIS GENERATION, AND SAID, 'THEY ALWAYS GO ASTRAY IN THEIR HEART, AND THEY DID NOT KNOW MY WAYS';
Heb 3:11; AS I SWORE IN MY WRATH, 'THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST.'"
Heb 3:12; Take care, brethren, that there not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God.
Heb 3:13; But encourage one another day after day, as long as it is still called "Today," so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin.
Heb 3:14; For we have become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our assurance firm until the end,
Heb 3:15; while it is said, "TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE, DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS, AS WHEN THEY PROVOKED ME."
Heb 3:16; For who provoked Him when they had heard? Indeed, did not all those who came out of Egypt led by Moses?
Heb 3:17; And with whom was He angry for forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose bodies fell in the wilderness?
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