A few observations:I think I can make this clear now.we both agree that salvation which is only given by God cannot be taken away, or given to anyone but God himself!! agree!! BUT!! If one lives expecting salvation,and his or her works are evil,then matt 7:21 which says not everyone who calls me Lord Lord shall enter the Kingdom of heaven!! RATHER!!! meaning what I said earlier faith without works is dead,he who DOES the will of my Father which is in Heaven, that man soul can be lost!! because he said he believed, but his fruit was rotton,his reward is hell, not heaven! So what the man or woamn has done, is what Judas did,and to them,fire. hell. not heaven! free will, if we believe,then we have good fruit,if we say we believe,but we live like the World our salvation to me can be lost. because we sell it,as Judas did. I hope you do understand. amen!! LOl blessing!
- I think I can make this clear now , do you mean for me or for you?
- matt 7:21 which says not everyone who calls me Lord Lord shall enter the Kingdom of heaven!, yes, this goes back to our original discussion that true believers can not fall away and are always saved, this is for only New Covenant believers. Here Jesus is talking about judgment day and well after the New Covenant, when all shall bend their knees and call him Lord but, many have already had their chance and not all who call Him Lord will be saved.
- he who DOES the will of my Father which is in Heaven, that man soul can be lost!, where exactly in the Bible does it say this?
- Judas did, Judas lived under the Law and well before Jesus ushered in the New Covenant of salvation by Grace and is not a good example for those of us who do live in the New Covenant and subject to this new contract with God.