Can you Lose Your Salvation?

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Amen my friend. Believing produces action and not vice-verse. If all my works be burned away and I place all my hope in Christ I will indeed be saved. If I be the greatest Apostle or the youngest babe in Christ i have but one leg to stand on that the the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ.
 
I think you and I are pretty much on the same page. Salvation without discipleship (being apprenticed to Jesus) is "fire insurance" without spreading the Good News . Your term "walking it out" seems similar to Paul's wording in Php 2:12. 1 Cor 3:12-13 says, "If any man builds on this foundation (Jesus) using gold, silver, costly stones, (or) wood, hay or straw, his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day (Judgement Day) will bring it to light." This would seem to say that there is some sort of incentive connected to walking out/working out our salvation by growing spiritually and helping people find Jesus (see Mt 28:19).

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I believe we are on the same page SLE. Salvation is by faith in Christ. Real faith in Christ always produces faith and fire insurance believers (or in some countries "rice bowl believers") are not really His and will sadly hear those dread words "depart from Me I do not know you.
 
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Abraham believed God and it was accounted to Him as righteousness (Jas 2:23 ).
Faith in Christ produces works and not vice-verse. If one did work and it was not at the leading of the Holy Spirit, not done in faith then that work would be no more than the work of the flesh (wood, hay, stubble) as what is born of the flesh is always flesh.
The following scriptures show the importance of works but put them in proper perspective in regards to salvation:
Tit 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Tit 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Tit 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Tit 3:8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

Salvation not of works but works good and important to maintain. What a joy to present any reward we receive as a crown to cast at the feet of our Lord.
 
I think if you proclaim with your mouth but have no actions to back it up then you might be in jeopardy of loosing your salvation.
Such people are in danger of losing their salvation because they fail to enrich their spiritual lives. They don't see the Kingdom of God as the Pearl of Great Price. (see Mt 13:45-46 ).

SLE
 
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Why do people say "If Christians live like the devil they can expect to lose their salvation"?
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the tree already bad in the first place living an intellectual lie. My bible says a good tree CANNOT produce bad fruit and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit, they believe they can intellectually. So it boils down if an individual was saved in the first place to Yes have eternal security, You can live like the devil but I question if the individual was saved in the first place, making like a works salvation to mimick a salvation by a truly born again individual.!
 
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wow to a non christian this is sooooooo confusing! I dont really pretend to understand salvation so im may be a little out of my depth here. From what i have read so far at some point in your life you give your life to christ then you are saved. Then it doesnt really matter much after that cos you are saved????
except it does matter if you arent really saved? So you can be tricked into thinking your being saved when really u are not saved?
And conversely you can be unsaved all your life but by accepting Jesus at the end of your life you will be saved?
So for instance Hitler could well be heaven (saved) if he accepted Jesus as his saviour just before he died?
 
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Can you lose your salvation?

My view is that you can lose your salvation. Paul expressed "Demas hath forsaken me....having loved this present evil world" 2Tim 4:10

We are saved......just as long as we stay saved........"He that followeth me..........."....Jesus said. We must keep following. Such is the only garantee that we will achieve that "Well done ...good and faithful servant"

Love to you....in Jesus
Its imposable to lose your salvation! if it was possible that would make God not so much aGod at all! but infallibly...
 
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RJ

Its imposable to lose your salvation! if it was possible that would make God not so much aGod at all! but infallibly...
In God's Kingdom, when you are "Born Again", born Spiritually, there is no such thing as being un-born...neither from you physical birth through your parents or your spiritual birth through God
 
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This is something I've been wondering about too. Especially someone who lets say.. goes to church with their parents as kids and they accept Christ then and then when they get older like 20 or something, they "come to their senses" (in their mind) and figure that it's all not possible and it sounds like some kind of a fairy tail and they just don't really believe what they were taught as a kid (because kids are open to pretty much anything) So anyway, they just stop believing and say it's not real anymore. Would they lose their salvation then? and of course.. if later on in life something showed them the way that it was indeed all true and they started believing again then of course they would get their salvation back?

Or.. if someone accepted and then later started to rebel and called christianity stupid and everything and say it was all a big bunch of lies and made up stories and only really gullible people believed in that stuff, would they lose their salvation? and if they decided later that they were wrong about being "wrong" about it all, then get their salvation back after re-accepting Christ and be serious about it and change their ways? I believe yes.
But what if they don't? if they accept Christ and try to live a Christian life but as they get older decide it was all dumb and not ever turn back to Christianity, even tho they accepted and believed at one time, would they lose it they STOP believing called it all garbage and never believe again? What are your thoughts on that?
 
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This is something I've been wondering about too. Especially someone who lets say.. goes to church with their parents as kids and they accept Christ then and then when they get older like 20 or something, they "come to their senses" (in their mind) and figure that it's all not possible and it sounds like some kind of a fairy tail and they just don't really believe what they were taught as a kid (because kids are open to pretty much anything) So anyway, they just stop believing and say it's not real anymore. Would they lose their salvation then? and of course.. if later on in life something showed them the way that it was indeed all true and they started believing again then of course they would get their salvation back?

Or.. if someone accepted and then later started to rebel and called christianity stupid and everything and say it was all a big bunch of lies and made up stories and only really gullible people believed in that stuff, would they lose their salvation? and if they decided later that they were wrong about being "wrong" about it all, then get their salvation back after re-accepting Christ and be serious about it and change their ways? I believe yes.
But what if they don't? if they accept Christ and try to live a Christian life but as they get older decide it was all dumb and not ever turn back to Christianity, even tho they accepted and believed at one time, would they lose it they STOP believing called it all garbage and never believe again? What are your thoughts on that?
Whew!!! I'm getting dizzy...LOL!

This repeated "Seesaw" example of yours is, I am sure, not all that uncommon.
What it all boils down to is was the person in your questions really saved in the first place? A true "Born Again" Christian say would no, that going in and out of salvation is simply not scripture. On the other hand, there is plenty of truths in the Bible that your salvation is secure, like Jesus died once for all sins and God said he would never leave or forsake you as a couple of examples.

So, my thoughts are:

How many of your sins did Jesus die for? ALL!

How many times did he die for all of our sins? One.

How many times will he die again for these sins? None.

How do we know that he will die only one time for our sins? He said it was finished and he sat down at the right hand of God.

What did God say he gives us if we believe? The gift of salvation.
God does not give this gift, take it away, forgive, take it away, and so on. You can decide not to accept the gift but, once you do receive it, there is no such thing as you giving it back to God.

What does it mean when God says that he will look at our sins no more?
You will have an opportunity to ask him someday, but basically, when God looks at a True Christian, he calls him Holy, Righteous and Blameless, not because he sees the "Born Again" Christian, but because he sees His son who lives in the Christian. This process is called Justification: Gods gift of forgiveness and salvation, " Just as if we hadn't sinned"!

There is much more. God says if we seek him, he will seek us. Read his word daily seeking him and you will find your answers.
 
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When we talk about people losing their salvation or not, we're only looking at them from the outside; judging by how they appear according what we observe with our senses. Only God and the person know the true state of an individual's heart when he or she does any of the ceremonial things we associate with coming to Christ (altar call, Sinners' Prayer, etc.). Also, only God and the person know the true state of that person's heart at any moment thereafter. An honest person cannot say with certainty "I'll be a disciple of Jesus Christ every moment of the rest of my life." We don't know the trials and temptations we will face in the future. That's why we "work out (our) salvation with fear and trembling" on a daily basis with God working in us to strengthen us (see Php 2:12-13).

SLE
 
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Their are plenty of people in the churches today that are not saved, the same with preachers of the Holy Bible that preach in the churches that are not saved.. you see this all over the tv! Unless you study the Bible and ask God to open your eyes and show you the truth you won't know what the truth is! God said in the end there well be no excuse for being ignorant of the truth if you die in your sins...
 
Their are plenty of people in the churches today that are not saved, the same with preachers of the Holy Bible that preach in the churches that are not saved
I would edit this statement to say "There are plenty of people in the churches today who are not yet saved........" To declare them "not saved" can be taken as saying that they are certain to die in their sin. That is God's decision, not ours.

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