Wow, thanks for that reply Nick, theres so much to take in and think about, but just one observation, in the parable of the "Good Samaritan", or in any of Christs parables or commandments to love others, do you find any judgement on how those in need arrived at that situation, i suppose what i'm asking is do you feel theres the "deserving" and "undeserving" poor and destitute, those that are deserving of our love and compassion and those that aren't, and if you do, who are we to make that decision, being sinners ourselves,...... and i'm sorry you feel i'm "chastising", my apologies for any offence i've caused, like all of us i'm trying to understand and grow in my faith, and when other views and opinions are expressed i feel the need to question whats said, for its only when we do, that we can truly understand.Hello Rad,
You're playing the devil's advocate here on this illegal immigration. You have chosen a position and stand by it, when all you have to do is a little research, which I don't understand why you refuse to do so. Use your search engine to look for Honduras Caravans going to the U.S.A. (Videos if you prefer). This is an organized endeavor, not one where people are fleeing from persecution/war! Look with the critical eye of a non-partisan observer and you'll see easily enough that this is not something that had to happen or was spontaneous as happens in war torn countries.
I realize that pointing out the above to you, will only make you change the attack point that you are coming from. For if one point doesn't justify what you are saying, you'll find another. As long as what you feel is the righteous position, wins out. You don't know me so as far as knowing what these people are going. Guess what? I happen to be Hispanic Brother. I am. In fact first generation American. Both my parents were legal immigrants. My father from Puerto Rico, and my mother from Cuba. I have family members who were boat people, search that out if you don't know what that means. So, do I know a little something about this or am I'm just blindly go by feelings of self-righteousness?
Also, don't blame others for the conditions these illegal immigrants put themselves in. They have opened the door to it, and are paying the price of their own foolishness. Yes, that's right foolishness. The countries are not war torn as I mentioned in my previous post. If we bordered Africa, you know that the U.S.A would have helped, and then intervened. As some of the countries are doing in Africa, and who are being assisted by not only the U.N., but different countries worldwide. Want to figure who the most generous country is in giving? Not only in material goods, but also the blood sweat and tears. Yes, we do have more, and so give more, but there are plenty of countries that could do more and don't. You should go waggle your finger at them for awhile.
Seeking a better life is not an excuse for doing illegal acts, i.e crossing another countries border without permission. A Christian should not be siding with those, who have placed themselves and their families in such situations if for no other reason but for material gain. Scripture in fact would tell you accept the lot you have been handed. Rejoice my brother at all times! No, sadly these people have bought into the same propaganda that you apparently believe, in and that is grab what you can, no matter what the cost is to you and others. That a country wants to exercise the laws like every other country does, and they're the enemy? Don't you believe in the consequences of ones own actions? You should. We as Christians know that a judgment day is coming. Yes, even for those who have turned their backs on others, but also for those who foment lawlessness and strife.
As far as those who pay coyotes to get them across the border? Why are they doing this? Again for material gain. First they scrimp and save to pay someone to sneak them across the border! You don't see on how many different levels how wrong that is? Definitely not Scriptural brother!!!
Now you can come up with certain situations where some people are truly being persecuted, but when you start intermingling and justifying those who are not. All you are doing is making it worse for those who do need the refuge!!!! This is the sort of blindness that makes these situations worse no matter which side you have chosen to take. This is how the Devil likes to work brother. Making them believe that Salvation is a place. NO! Only God's Grace found through the Son of God Jesus Christ is Salvation found and in no other, and it doesn't matter if you're here, there, or anywhere you want to name. Our task to disciple and bring the Gospel to them is no different. Just more challenging, and yet as joyful when one can look into the eyes of them that know the Lord, even as the gaze of life leaves their eyes. For they'll be where we all want to be and that is with the Lord.
What you do here is justify the action, because the symptom of said action is horrifying to contemplate. Question here. Do you spread the Gospel in the same way. Identifying Hell/Sin to the individuals that don't know the Lord's Saving Grace and the resulting damnation they face without Him? You would do better telling the illegal immigrants the truth instead of chastising Brothers & Sisters in Christ Jesus as you've been doing.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.