Charlie Kirk

[Rad]

I dont throw any stones. But I do have the choice to make my voice heard about truths, to include seeking a more moral society to live in for both myself and everyone else. You can choose to ignore evil and live in sodom and gamorah and just try and avoid the evil, but it will affect you and those you might love, to corrupt you more just like it did with the family of Lot.

Hi Brad, but by advocating for the Death Penalty are you not as those with stones in their hands, are you so without sin that you feel yourself able to press the switch, put in the needle or pull the trigger?, ........ and i do not "choose to ignore evil and live in sodom and gamorah", i fight against the many evils of this world but am only too aware of my own sin, and as for "living in sodom and gamorah", i feel like that every day, this world is an eveil and corrupt place, worshipping the false idols of Greed and power, driven by selfishness, envy, lust and hate, hundreds of millions of men , women and children live in abject poverty, millions of young children die from hunger and disease while a favoured few live in wealth and comfort, billions of Animals suffer and die in factory farms and slaughterhouses to satiate our lust for their flesh, and we rip up the Earth, tear down the forests, pollute the rivers and Oceans , poison the air we breathe and pump so much Carbon and Greenhouse gases into the Atmosphere we are changing the very climate itself on which ALL life depends, and for what, for Money, for power, for Mammon,....... i will not cast the first stone for i know my sins are many and i pray daily for forgiveness for the pitiful life i lead, Judgement is mine says the Lord, and although many times i cry out for vengeance i know thats how it should be.
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[Rad]

Hey don't mean to butt in but it is written

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.”

Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?”

learn to do well. Seek judgment, relieve the oppressed; judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

"Depart from evil, and do good..

It's written we will know His children by their fruits..

To not judge or discern what one is truly dealing with to turn a blind eye and to keep a closed mouth not speaking Truth is not of the Lord frfr

I apologize for buttin in but I don't understand the don't judge crowd like why would one just read part of a verse n run with it..

We r told to be as gentle as doves and wise as a serpent..

Idk I just don't get that whole act like your blind and deaf while I go stealing and if ya call me a thief your Unchrist like lol never made any sense to me but it does give me a chuckle still

Hope all's well

Thanks for that Twistie, i have always read " Do not Judge" as pertaining to Judgement of Salvation or condemnation and also a recognition of the sins we all have, "take the beam out of your own eye.....", its all too easy to point the finger at others while failing to see the many sins we have committed and continue to commit, the saying " hate the sin but love the sinner" comes to mind, .... just one comment on your point about "stealing", many if not all of our societies and countries have been and continue to be built upon the oppression, exploitation and theft of land and resources from others, we are only too quick to condemn the sins of the guy who steals $100 from a store, or who steals a car, but what of the theft and exploitation of whole peoples that have resulted in mass suffering and death that our lives are built upon, but thats probably for another thread, thanks again for your thoughts.

 

[Rad]

1. The context of 'judge not' in Matt 7 is 'punish not'. Note how His words stopped stones, not thoughts. Christians are to judge all things 1 Cor 2:15.

2. I agree with you on the death penalty. I believe that all living still have hope to repent and make right with God. But, at the same time it could be considered a good thing to make an example of a few by executing them. Take the rapes of girls in the UK by immigrants. A few executions will fix that problem.

3. Charlie Kirk, can't find good footage? I have watched a lot of his videos, they are all good. Not a single one is bad. I think you are just watching short clips and not full length videos.

Hi King J, thanks for your reply, as i've said i think the context of Matthew 7 is not only in relation to eternal judgement, which is Gods alone, but also a recognition of our own sins and failings before we attempt to judge the actions of others,......"But, at the same time it could be considered a good thing to make an example of a few by executing them. Take the rapes of girls in the UK by immigrants. A few executions will fix that problem.", if the death penalty resulted in a reduction in violent crime then the US would be the safest country in the developed world, but look at the stats , it isnt, and as well as being contrary to the teachings of Christ fails to reduce violent crime and just makes society as a whole more brutal and corrupt, just wonder why you picked on Immigrants raping girls in the UK, violent crimes are not restricted to any particular group or religion, we're ALL sinners and all capable of the evils we see in this world,.....i suppose it all comes down to your definition of "Good ", i've watched a full video of Charlie Kirk as well as many clips and it seems to me that he excelled in pouring petrol on some of the most inflammatory faultlines in US society, Racism, Immigration, the Death penalty, depicting his political enemies as "Evil" and the promotion of Conspiracy theories that caused division and hate, but i'm willing to learn so give me one of the best videos you have of Charlie Kirk and ill give it a watch, Many thanks for your thoughts.

 

[Twistie]

Thanks for that Twistie, i have always read " Do not Judge" as pertaining to Judgement of Salvation or condemnation and also a recognition of the sins we all have, "take the beam out of your own eye.....", its all too easy to point the finger at others while failing to see the many sins we have committed and continue to commit, the saying " hate the sin but love the sinner" comes to mind, .... just one comment on your point about "stealing", many if not all of our societies and countries have been and continue to be built upon the oppression, exploitation and theft of land and resources from others, we are only too quick to condemn the sins of the guy who steals $100 from a store, or who steals a car, but what of the theft and exploitation of whole peoples that have resulted in mass suffering and death that our lives are built upon, but thats probably for another thread, thanks again for your thoughts.

I didn't say condemn.. there's a big difference in making a judgement call n condemning one.. perhaps the word isn't judgement I'm not really sure if that's the proper word or not but it's the only one I can think of
What's real sad about the no I don't judge is that it has even left them Temples many dwell in they accept what ever will bring their cash in hand they don't even settle disputes between their own congregation..
If only I new back in the day what I have learned in my years walking with the Lord..
ITs written His children will be judging the angels n yet they r unable to choose which is right n wrong in a dispute between what is supposed to be called brothers n sisters..
Seems the more watered down they make the Word the more man seems man for answers and the more Lost the world becomes..

At one time I didn't use my judgement n lost what was most precious to me back in in the day I trusted the peoples words instead of actions funny how telling people don't judge n just accept can destroy ones inner being..

Idk I just don't get that don't judge turn a blind eye..

I thank the Lord for what He has revealed to me.. and Now consider what is Lost Dung and what should be a blessing..Lord gives me the strength by allowing me to Love Him and not drown in a river of sorrow and grief..
Loosing A3 children I guess give one a whole new perspective on how one sees things but ya I will never walk around blindly not making judgement calls so I can discern what is best ever again

Good morning and Hope all is well with ya..

For this is the day the Lord has made Let us rejoice and he glad!

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[KingJ]

Hi King J, thanks for your reply, as i've said i think the context of Matthew 7 is not only in relation to eternal judgement, which is Gods alone, but also a recognition of our own sins and failings before we attempt to judge the actions of others,......"But, at the same time it could be considered a good thing to make an example of a few by executing them. Take the rapes of girls in the UK by immigrants. A few executions will fix that problem.", if the death penalty resulted in a reduction in violent crime then the US would be the safest country in the developed world, but look at the stats , it isnt, and as well as being contrary to the teachings of Christ fails to reduce violent crime and just makes society as a whole more brutal and corrupt, just wonder why you picked on Immigrants raping girls in the UK, violent crimes are not restricted to any particular group or religion, we're ALL sinners and all capable of the evils we see in this world,.....i suppose it all comes down to your definition of "Good ", i've watched a full video of Charlie Kirk as well as many clips and it seems to me that he excelled in pouring petrol on some of the most inflammatory faultlines in US society, Racism, Immigration, the Death penalty, depicting his political enemies as "Evil" and the promotion of Conspiracy theories that caused division and hate, but i'm willing to learn so give me one of the best videos you have of Charlie Kirk and ill give it a watch, Many thanks for your thoughts.

Hi Rad, some of these talking points are off topic to the thread, I will create a new thread for them.

Regarding 'finding good' Charlie Kirk videos, I am not going to go down that rabbit hole with you. Why don't you rather be specific on what exactly he said that you disagree with. He had a great way of speaking politely while getting straight to the point. Every one of his videos was excellent.

I appreciated how he didn’t dance around the point. Some found that offensive, but that reflects more on them than on him. It’s like teaching math today—some people don’t like being told that 1 + 1 = 2. But facts are facts, regardless of how they make you feel. If someone is overly sensitive, that’s their issue, not anyone else’s

 

[Rad]

Hi Rad, some of these talking points are off topic to the thread, I will create a new thread for them.

Regarding 'finding good' Charlie Kirk videos, I am not going to go down that rabbit hole with you. Why don't you rather be specific on what exactly he said that you disagree with. He had a great way of speaking politely while getting straight to the point. Every one of his videos was excellent.

I appreciated how he didn’t dance around the point. Some found that offensive, but that reflects more on them than on him. It’s like teaching math today—some people don’t like being told that 1 + 1 = 2. But facts are facts, regardless of how they make you feel. If someone is overly sensitive, that’s their issue, not anyone else’s

Hi KingJ, I'm trying to understand just who Charlie Kirk was and why he inspired such devotion and following among so many Christians. As i've said the videos and clips i've seen of him up to now are far from inspiring and its a shame you wont share with me some of the footage you have of Charlie Kirk that shows him in a better light.

As to specifics, perhaps its better to treat each one separately otherwise it might prove to be a bit confusing. Lets start with the Death Penalty, as well as being wholly supportive of the Death Penalty, which i find contrary to Christs teachings, Charlie Kirk was of the opinion that the process of Capital Punishment should be much quicker with less time for appeals and judicial reviews, which would make the process much more likely to condemn the innocent . He also advocated that Executions should be made public and televised, he even suggested that these executions could be sponsored by Corporations like Coca -Cola, he was also on a panel discussing the age that these public executions could be watched , someone suggested 16, then someone else suggested 12,!!. 12 year old children watching public executions sponsored by huge Corporations, you can almost imagine the adverts in the commercial breaks, "This execution was brought to you by Coca Cola, enjoy it kids and enjoy life", while watching someone be killed.

Years ago there used to be a saying popular among Christians, "What would Jesus do", there still is, but Christians had wristbands and suchlike with WWJD on them to remind them in any given situation to act as they believe Jesus would in that situation, i really can't imagine Jesus agreeing to anything that Charlie Kirk said, it goes against his teaching of Love, Compassion, Mercy and Justice, but perhaps you think differently.

 

[KingJ]

Hi KingJ, I'm trying to understand just who Charlie Kirk was and why he inspired such devotion and following among so many Christians. As i've said the videos and clips i've seen of him up to now are far from inspiring and its a shame you wont share with me some of the footage you have of Charlie Kirk that shows him in a better light.

Show me a clip that is far from inspiring.

As to specifics, perhaps its better to treat each one separately otherwise it might prove to be a bit confusing. Lets start with the Death Penalty, as well as being wholly supportive of the Death Penalty, which i find contrary to Christs teachings,

God ordained the death penalty in the OT. God does not change His mind Num 23:19. Jesus is God Isa 9:6. Jesus never disapproved of the death penalty. You are misreading. As explained in this thread: Are Christians to judge others?

Charlie Kirk was of the opinion that the process of Capital Punishment should be much quicker with less time for appeals and judicial reviews, which would make the process much more likely to condemn the innocent .

The green is true, the red is your inserted assumption. Please don't do that. That is lying about someone. Very un-Christian. Charlie was for justice.

He also advocated that Executions should be made public and televised,

Yes, I agree with that too. It's for the same reason God selected a graphic and violent public death by stoning in the OT.

he even suggested that these executions could be sponsored by Corporations like Coca -Cola, he was also on a panel discussing the age that these public executions could be watched , someone suggested 16, then someone else suggested 12,!!. 12 year old children watching public executions sponsored by huge Corporations, you can almost imagine the adverts in the commercial breaks, "This execution was brought to you by Coca Cola, enjoy it kids and enjoy life", while watching someone be killed.

Chat GPT says you are ignoring important caveats and context. Please post the exact videos you are referring to.

Years ago there used to be a saying popular among Christians, "What would Jesus do", there still is, but Christians had wristbands and suchlike with WWJD on them to remind them in any given situation to act as they believe Jesus would in that situation, i really can't imagine Jesus agreeing to anything that Charlie Kirk said, it goes against his teaching of Love, Compassion, Mercy and Justice, but perhaps you think differently.

Again, God ordained a public, graphic and violent death by stoning for all mortal sinners. Jesus is God. So, no, WWJD does not negate public execution. You have a false picture of Jesus in your mind.

What Jesus pushed for in Matt 7 and John 8 per the thread I linked was a better justice system. If the adulterer mentioned in John 8 did not 'go and sin no more' would Jesus have stopped the stoning on the next day? I think not.

 

[Brad Huber]

Hi Brad, but by advocating for the Death Penalty are you not as those with stones in their hands, are you so without sin that you feel yourself able to press the switch, put in the needle or pull the trigger?, ........ and i do not "choose to ignore evil and live in sodom and gamorah", i fight against the many evils of this world but am only too aware of my own sin, and as for "living in sodom and gamorah", i feel like that every day, this world is an eveil and corrupt place, worshipping the false idols of Greed and power, driven by selfishness, envy, lust and hate, hundreds of millions of men , women and children live in abject poverty, millions of young children die from hunger and disease while a favoured few live in wealth and comfort, billions of Animals suffer and die in factory farms and slaughterhouses to satiate our lust for their flesh, and we rip up the Earth, tear down the forests, pollute the rivers and Oceans , poison the air we breathe and pump so much Carbon and Greenhouse gases into the Atmosphere we are changing the very climate itself on which ALL life depends, and for what, for Money, for power, for Mammon,....... i will not cast the first stone for i know my sins are many and i pray daily for forgiveness for the pitiful life i lead, Judgement is mine says the Lord, and although many times i cry out for vengeance i know thats how it should be.
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And who are you to decide what is evil and what is not? And who are you to decide I must press the switch or such? And who are you that you sin not against your fellow man or God as you think I may be doing? Read the book of Job. Ask yourself why you judge yourself righteous enough to judge others instead of yourself?

 

[MedicBravo]

I'm not a judge nor a law expert.
America was founded on Christian principles. They were smart in not naming Him outright.
Out of every "region" only Yahweh God is the one to fit "Lord".
I know enough to know that righteous judges, Christian or not, will uphold the Law and if that ends in the death of a criminal so be it. I'm not going to plead or make a fuss.

Evil is evil regardless of any mortal's opinion otherwise. If judges sentence "death" on them it is just. They are the ones at fault. If the death is violent, gory, etc. so be it. That is a better deterence for other criminals than some bland prison portrait or a "carefully chosen" one as to make the person seem "innocent".
If that guy is put to death I hope they put it LIVE on TV and by God's justice scares people away from evil.

 

[Rad]

Show me a clip that is far from inspiring.

See what you think to this

God ordained the death penalty in the OT. God does not change His mind Num 23:19. Jesus is God Isa 9:6. Jesus never disapproved of the death penalty. You are misreading. As explained in this thread: Are Christians to judge others?

Seems to me that God does change his mind, or rather Christ "fulfils" the Law, which in some cases reverses previous teachings, heres Matthew 5 vs 21 -48

Murder​

21&nbsp;“You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘You shall not murder,[<a href="Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 5:21-48 - New International Version" title="See footnote a">a</a>] and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ 22&nbsp;But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister[<a href="Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 5:21-48 - New International Version" title="See footnote b">b</a>][<a href="Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 5:21-48 - New International Version" title="See footnote c">c</a>] will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’[<a href="Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 5:21-48 - New International Version" title="See footnote d">d</a>] is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

23&nbsp;“Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother or sister has something against you, 24&nbsp;leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to them; then come and offer your gift.

25&nbsp;“Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still together on the way, or your adversary may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. 26&nbsp;Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.

Adultery​

27&nbsp;“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[<a href="Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 5:21-48 - New International Version" title="See footnote e">e</a>] 28&nbsp;But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29&nbsp;If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30&nbsp;And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

Divorce​

31&nbsp;“It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’[<a href="Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 5:21-48 - New International Version" title="See footnote f">f</a>] 32&nbsp;But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

Oaths​

33&nbsp;“Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made.’ 34&nbsp;But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35&nbsp;or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36&nbsp;And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37&nbsp;All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.[<a href="Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 5:21-48 - New International Version" title="See footnote g">g</a>]

Eye for Eye​

38&nbsp;“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[<a href="Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 5:21-48 - New International Version" title="See footnote h">h</a>] 39&nbsp;But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40&nbsp;And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41&nbsp;If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42&nbsp;Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

Love for Enemies​

43&nbsp;“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[<a href="Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 5:21-48 - New International Version" title="See footnote i">i</a>] and hate your enemy.’ 44&nbsp;But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45&nbsp;that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46&nbsp;If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47&nbsp;And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48&nbsp;Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

The green is true, the red is your inserted assumption. Please don't do that. That is lying about someone. Very un-Christian. Charlie was for justice.

No the "Red isnt my inserted assumption", check out the above video at 5:15 where Charlie Kirk says "The death penalty takes too long, too many appeals", before you make assumptions about what ive said please check your facts, very un-Christian like, please dont do that.

Yes, I agree with that too. It's for the same reason God selected a graphic and violent public death by stoning in the OT.

but what did Christ say about these "violent public deaths by stoning" heres John 8 vs 1-11
8 1 Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.

2;At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3;The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4;and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5;In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6;They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. ;7When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8;Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

9;At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10;Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”

11;“No one, sir,” she said.

“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

Do you consider yourself so free of sin that you can cast the first stone?.

Chat GPT says you are ignoring important caveats and context. Please post the exact videos you are referring to.

Again, God ordained a public, graphic and violent death by stoning for all mortal sinners. Jesus is God. So, no, WWJD does not negate public execution. You have a false picture of Jesus in your mind.

What Jesus pushed for in Matt 7 and John 8 per the thread I linked was a better justice system. If the adulterer mentioned in John 8 did not 'go and sin no more' would Jesus have stopped the stoning on the next day? I think not.

No you've got it completely wrong, Christs emphasis was not on the actions of the sinner, it was on those who thought themselves so righteous and free of sin that they could condemn another sinner to judgement and death, and Christ knew she would sin again, we all do, every day, so you have a false picture of Christ in your mind, none of us are in a position to be judge and executioner of another, no matter how great their sin, for with "what Judgement you mete out, so shall it be meted out to you".

Heres the video, the relevant part is 26:40- 45:23, so tell me what you think the "context" is?. THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 33 — The Big Fani Whammy? Glee? Kill Pedos?

 

[Rad]

And who are you to decide what is evil and what is not? And who are you to decide I must press the switch or such? And who are you that you sin not against your fellow man or God as you think I may be doing? Read the book of Job. Ask yourself why you judge yourself righteous enough to judge others instead of yourself?

Thats exactly my point, who are we to condemn and judge others , who are we to cast the first stone when we are ALL miserable sinners ourselves, yes we can judge the sin, but none of us are in a position to take anothers life, we really need to recognise that our lives of relative wealth and comfort are built upon the death and suffering of millions, that we have contributed to the environmental destruction of Gods creation and that our sins should make us hate the life we lead, so indeed who are we to judge others right to life when we are guilty of far greater deaths and destruction. Luke 14 vs 25-27

The Cost of Being a Disciple​

25&nbsp;Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26&nbsp;“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. 27&nbsp;And whoever does not carry their cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.

 

[Rad]

I'm not a judge nor a law expert.
America was founded on Christian principles. They were smart in not naming Him outright.
Out of every "region" only Yahweh God is the one to fit "Lord".
I know enough to know that righteous judges, Christian or not, will uphold the Law and if that ends in the death of a criminal so be it. I'm not going to plead or make a fuss.

Evil is evil regardless of any mortal's opinion otherwise. If judges sentence "death" on them it is just. They are the ones at fault. If the death is violent, gory, etc. so be it. That is a better deterence for other criminals than some bland prison portrait or a "carefully chosen" one as to make the person seem "innocent".
If that guy is put to death I hope they put it LIVE on TV and by God's justice scares people away from evil.

So you consider yourself so righteous and without sin that you feel able to cast that first stone, or pay someone else to do it for you, and what judge is so without sin that he can pronounce death on another, and what judicial system is so just that it punishes the "guilty" but lets those guilty of far greater crimes go free, the arms manufacturers who spread death and destruction across Gods earth, the oil, Gas and coal companies that have trashed the climate and brought Gods creation to the brink of destruction, and the banks and financial institutions who through the stroke of a pen condemn hundreds of millions to lives to poverty, suffering and death, or the leaders of great nations who through their corruption and lust for power steal, destroy and disregard the death and destruction they cause, and what of us, our petty selfishness and greed that leads to millions of children dying of Hunger and disease, where is the judgement that should fall upon us from such a righteous justice system,....... No!, none of us are without sin , all of us are miserable sinners in the sight of God , all of us need Gods forgivenerss and Grace and none of us are in a position to cast that first stone.

 

[Rad]

I didn't say condemn.. there's a big difference in making a judgement call n condemning one.. perhaps the word isn't judgement I'm not really sure if that's the proper word or not but it's the only one I can think of
What's real sad about the no I don't judge is that it has even left them Temples many dwell in they accept what ever will bring their cash in hand they don't even settle disputes between their own congregation..
If only I new back in the day what I have learned in my years walking with the Lord..
ITs written His children will be judging the angels n yet they r unable to choose which is right n wrong in a dispute between what is supposed to be called brothers n sisters..
Seems the more watered down they make the Word the more man seems man for answers and the more Lost the world becomes..

At one time I didn't use my judgement n lost what was most precious to me back in in the day I trusted the peoples words instead of actions funny how telling people don't judge n just accept can destroy ones inner being..

Idk I just don't get that don't judge turn a blind eye..

I thank the Lord for what He has revealed to me.. and Now consider what is Lost Dung and what should be a blessing..Lord gives me the strength by allowing me to Love Him and not drown in a river of sorrow and grief..
Loosing A3 children I guess give one a whole new perspective on how one sees things but ya I will never walk around blindly not making judgement calls so I can discern what is best ever again

Good morning and Hope all is well with ya..

For this is the day the Lord has made Let us rejoice and he glad!

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I'm not saying dont judge, we all judge the actions of ourselves and others, but must remember to recognise our own sins before seeing that same sin in others, to "cast out the log from your own eye so you can see clearly to remove the speck from your brothers", but we are in no position to judge and then condemn others to death, none of us are so righteous and free of sin that we can cast that first stone, "Hate the sin but love the sinner" is as good a way of saying it as any, for with what judgement we give so shall that judgement be given to us.