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Do You Know GOD?

Matt 12:28- But if it is by the spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

If Jesus was literally God, he would have said "If it is by My Spirit", or even " If it is by My Fellow Ghost-God".
But he never did, nor ever will- for the breath ("spirit" ) of God is....GOD'S, not his!
 
Churches say the Spirit of God is a Ghost-God; nameless, never seen, a Co-Equal God with, the Jesus-God, and the God-God (the Father).
Does that fit in with what Christ says NEXT?:

Matt 12: 31- Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven men.
32- Anyone who speaks a word against the son of man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Jesus HIMSELF shows the spirit to be superior to himself; for, after all, it was :POWER sen t directly from his God & Father- no 'Co-Equal Godhead' here!
Speaking against God is the most serious mistake of all!
 
Matt 13:15- 15 He said to them, But who do you say that I am?
16- Simon Peter replied, You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17- And Jesus answered him, Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven.

Notice Peter didn't say "God" or "Part of the Holt Trinity" or "Godman"?
And that "I am" was not being used as a Name of God?
The 'Trinity' is NOWHERE in the Bible, being a fabricated word for a fabricated dogma!
 
Matt 14:28- And Peter answered him, Lord, if it is you, bid me come to you on the water.
29- He said, Come. So Peter got out of the boat and walked on the water and came to Jesus;
30- but when he saw the wind, he was afraid, and beginning to sink he cried out, Lord, save me.
31- Jesus immediately reached out his hand and caught him, saying to him, O man of little faith, why did you doubt?
32- And when they got into the boat, the wind ceased.
33- And those in the boat worshiped [ Grk "proskunio" meaning to kiss, like a dog licking his master's hand,
to fawn or crouch to literally or figuratively prostrate oneself in homage/do reverence to, adore] him, saying, Truly you are the son of God.

Notice they didn't say anything like "Truly you are God!" or "Truly you are God-the-Son"?
Fascinating account! It makes one think of just what we COULD be capable of IF not hampered by fear and some lack in our faith!
 
Matt 14:35- And when the men of that place recognized him, they sent round to all that region and brought to him all that were sick,
36- and besought him that they might only touch the fringe of his garment; and as many as touched it were made well.

There never was any ridiculous 'Holy Ghost' God; the Power/ the (power) of God holy spirit of God radiated from Jesus!
 
Matt 15:29- And Jesus went on from there and passed along the Sea of Galilee. And he went up on the mountain, and sat down there.
30- And great crowds came to him, bringing with them the lame, the maimed, the blind, the dumb, and many others, and they put them at his feet, and he healed them,
31- so that the throng wondered, when they saw the dumb speaking, the maimed whole, the lame walking, and the blind seeing; and they glorified the God of Israel.

Notice they didn't glorify Jesus- but 'The God of Israel"?
They knew who gave Jesus that power & authority!
 
Matt 16:26- What good will it be for you to gain the whole world, yet forfeit your soul?
Or what can you give in exchange for your soul?
27- For the son of man is going to come in his Father's glory with his angels, and then he
will reward everyone according to what they have done.

Notice Jesus says he will come with his FATHER'S Glory & Angels?
Not HIS! Or Their's!
 
Matthew 21:33- Hear another parable~
A man who owned some land planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it. He dug a pit for a winepress in it. He also built a lookout tower.
He rented the vineyard out to some farmers. Then he went away on a journey....
34- When harvest time approached, he sent his servants to the renters. He told the servants to collect his share of the fruit.
35- But the renters grabbed his servants.They beat one of them. They killed another. They threw stones at the third to kill him.
36- Then the man sent other servants to the renters. He sent more than he did the first time. The renters treated them the same way.
37- Last of all, he sent his son to them. 'They will respect my son,' he said.
38- But the renters saw the son coming. They said to each other, 'This is the one who will receive all the owner's property someday.
Come, let's kill him. Then everything will be ours.'
39- So they took him and threw him out of the vineyard. Then they killed him.
40- When the owner of the vineyard comes back, what will he do to those renters?

The "Man who owned some Land" didn't come; He sent his son!
When He does return- He will do so in Fury- thus "the Day of Fury" referred to in the Bible!
Back to the subject: NOTHING in the Bible says God came in the flesh (altho He became "manifest" or KNOWN in the flesh, thru Jesus)-
everywhere it tells us He sent His Only-Begotten Son!

Churchianity rejects that with passion!
 
Matt 18:19- Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven.
20-For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Not "in OUR Names".
 
Matt 20: 23- Jesus said to them, "You will indeed drink from my cup, but to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant. These places belong to those for whom they have been prepared by my Father."

No "Co-Equality" seen here, as well.
His Father- his GOD- has ULTIMATE authority.
No Ghost is mentioned, either.

Just WHERE is the 'Trinity' in Jesus; teaching???
 
@Question
Define the word god.
Find the Scripture with it, whether in the Greek or Hebrew, and it means what?

You need the context of how "god" is being used to understand who is being talked about in the English of the translation.
You can't just say "god" means "god", by the scripture verse, without understanding the meaning and seeing it through the context being used.

Example:

And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Genesis 17:7 KJV

And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. Exodus 7:1 KJV

And Joash said unto all that stood against him, Will ye plead for Baal? will ye save him? he that will plead for him, let him be put to death whilst [it is yet] morning: if he [be] a god, let him plead for himself, because [one] hath cast down his altar. Judges 6:31 KJV

Are you unable to see that "God" is not His name, but a title, and one given to...whom?

One way of knowing is through capitalization. The same dogma that you critique is the one that sets this as being so. The Greek and Hebrew do not capitalize the word "god". So, context is needed even then to determine the "who" is being talked about.

So, I ask you again, to define the word "god".

Who is the Alpha and Omega?

Genesis 1:26 - and even the Jewish scholars see it as being plural, though they state it as also having other associations with king, royalty. (up to you who you'll believe even though all agree the plurality being used)

So, who is Jesus if not the Son of God?

Who is the Holy Spirit, if He has sentience and makes decisions?

You may not like it, but it is something that has exasperated many to try to come to grips with and why the Word Trinity is used. I sat on the fence for many years, not coming to any decision either for it or against it (Trinity) until the Holy Spirit said to me "Hierarchy" when I was researching something unrelated one day. Then it clicked! Alleluia! When you realize that God is not anyone's name, just like God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit are also not their names, but identifiers to who they are in the Godhead. These are relational words. Which if you think about it is exactly what God, wants to have with us and makes perfect sense. I always wonder how often God walked in the Garden of Eden with Adam & Eve. Which one was doing the walking? :)

Side note: All I suggest is that you do not denigrate those who do not believe as you do no matter how frustrating it may be to you. Just remember that God doesn't need us to protect Him. I do believe He is quite capable of handling it Himself in whatever manner He deems appropriate. Whether it's the Father, Son, or Holy Spirit of course. :)

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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<><
 
@Question
Define the word god.
Find the Scripture with it, whether in the Greek or Hebrew, and it means what?

You need the context of how "god" is being used to understand who is being talked about in the English of the translation.
You can't just say "god" means "god", by the scripture verse, without understanding the meaning and seeing it through the context being used.

Example:

And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Genesis 17:7 KJV

And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. Exodus 7:1 KJV

And Joash said unto all that stood against him, Will ye plead for Baal? will ye save him? he that will plead for him, let him be put to death whilst [it is yet] morning: if he [be] a god, let him plead for himself, because [one] hath cast down his altar. Judges 6:31 KJV

Are you unable to see that "God" is not His name, but a title, and one given to...whom?

One way of knowing is through capitalization. The same dogma that you critique is the one that sets this as being so. The Greek and Hebrew do not capitalize the word "god". So, context is needed even then to determine the "who" is being talked about.

So, I ask you again, to define the word "god".

Who is the Alpha and Omega?

Genesis 1:26 - and even the Jewish scholars see it as being plural, though they state it as also having other associations with king, royalty. (up to you who you'll believe even though all agree the plurality being used)

So, who is Jesus if not the Son of God?

Who is the Holy Spirit, if He has sentience and makes decisions?

You may not like it, but it is something that has exasperated many to try to come to grips with and why the Word Trinity is used. I sat on the fence for many years, not coming to any decision either for it or against it (Trinity) until the Holy Spirit said to me "Hierarchy" when I was researching something unrelated one day. Then it clicked! Alleluia! When you realize that God is not anyone's name, just like God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit are also not their names, but identifiers to who they are in the Godhead. These are relational words. Which if you think about it is exactly what God, wants to have with us and makes perfect sense. I always wonder how often God walked in the Garden of Eden with Adam & Eve. Which one was doing the walking? :)

Side note: All I suggest is that you do not denigrate those who do not believe as you do no matter how frustrating it may be to you. Just remember that God doesn't need us to protect Him. I do believe He is quite capable of handling it Himself in whatever manner He deems appropriate. Whether it's the Father, Son, or Holy Spirit of course. :)

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><
There are FALSE Gods, the REAL One, and those He called God because they REPRESENTED Him, like Moses and Christ.
 
EVERYTHING Christ said and taught about himself and his Father made it EASY to discern he was not God- but one close & dear to Him~

Matt 22:1- Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying:
2- "The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son"...

Here he used an Illustration EVERY SINGLE JEW could easily understand: Father & Son.
Many Trinitiarians have told me Jesus IS the Father. They ALL believe they are co-equal, as taught by the Clergy, instead of believing Jesus.
 
Matt 22:29- Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.
30- At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.
31- But about the resurrection of the dead have you not read what God said to you,
32- 'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob' ? He is not the God of the dead but of the living."
33- When the crowds heard this, they were astonished at his teaching.

Now people will read MANY things into THESE words- but one thing is DEAD CERTAIN:
Jesus was, AGAIN, referring to God as someone OTHER than himself!
(He didn't say "Didn't you read what I - or We- said to you?")
 
Matt 22:42 - saying, What think ye of the Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David.
43- He saith unto them, How then doth David in the spirit call him Lord, saying,
44- Jehovah said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Till I put thine enemies underneath thy feet?
45- If David then calleth him Lord, how is he his son?
46- And no one was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.

You Trinitiarians say WHAT?
One 'Almighty God' says to ANOTHER 'Almighty God' to sit at His right hand until He subdues his enemies????
There is no 'Trinity'!
Here Jesus quotes the Psalms where it says "Jehovah said to my Lord". (No form of God's name existed in the Kione Greek)
An early prophecy about His Son's coming role.
 
After foretelling the things that would happen in the Last Days, he said-

Matt 24:36- But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the son, but the Father only.

No Co-equal 'Trinity'...
The Father is the One True God- Jehovah, the God of Jesus Christ!
 
Matt 26:63- But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou art the Christ, the Son of God.
64- Jesus said unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Henceforth ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.
65- Then the high priest rent his garments, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy: what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard the blasphemy:
66- what think ye? They answered and said, He is worthy of death.

Jesus doesn't say he will be or IS Almighty- but, instead, "sitting at the Right Hand of Power".
A meaningless statement if he was one of the Almighty Gods of Churchianity's Trinity Dogma...
(By the way, for those of you expecting Christ to be circling the Earth thousands of times on a cloud- or maybe as a Giant for only hundreds, note that he said they would "see" him coming on
the clouds, from that moment ON (henceforth)!
 
Matt 28: [After being resurrected:] 18-And Jesus coming up spoke to them, saying, all power has been GIVEN me in heaven and upon earth.
19-Go [therefore] and make disciples of all the nations, baptising them in the name of the Father, and of the son, and of the holy spirit;
20- teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have enjoined you. And behold, I am with you all the days, until the completion of the age.

All Power wasn't RETURNED to Jesus, as Trinitarian dogma conjures up.
He wasn't God when in the flesh... all Power was GIVEN him!
There is that reference to the "name of" the holy spirit...but... IT doesn't HAVE a "name" for us to use!
It's like "Stop in the name of the Law!"

The meaning is EASILY apparent; carry out your ministry under the guidance and of God, Christ, and the Power they send us- the holy spirit!
 
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