How Do I Put on the Armor of God?

[Garee]

Please, explain this process to me?

Please, explain this process to me?

Born of the water of the word. That process?

 

[Leumas]

Born of the water of the word. That process?

So what is the process you're the one doing the talking, if you know what you're talking about then you can certainly tell me what is the process of it.

 

[Garee]

So what is the process you're the one doing the talking, if you know what you're talking about then you can certainly tell me what is the process of it.

Thanks I can try.

I would offer. The washing of the word of God is the cleansing power, The born again power needed for salvation. The washing of all the doctrines of the Holy Spirit.

Using water in many forms rain, dew, small rain, showers, spit, sweat to represent newborn again growth .

Christ gives us his understanding of the washing of the word hid in a beatiful parable

Deuteronomy 32Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.;My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:

Same water of the word Husbands are to love their wives with (all the doctrines of Christ's as it is written)

Ephesians 5:25-27;Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

The principle of the water of the word can be seen working in action .

Christ teaching the believers how to seek the daily bread of his will called manna .meaning. What is it? which is like in. . not as I will but you Holy Father the will with power.to raise (new growth) the dying

Exodus 16:15 And when the children of Israel saw it, they said one to another, It is manna: for they wist not what it was. And Moses said unto them, This is the bread which the Lord hath given you to eat.

The cleansing power of the Holy Spirit laying itself down on the dew separated it from the corrupted earth

Numbers 11:9 And when the dew fell upon the camp in the night, the manna fell upon it.

The Holy Spirit the purifier.

 

[Rhema]

I believe I will pass on your advice.

To whom? To whom shall you pass on my advice? I'm sure they will be blessed, so thank you.

 

[Rhema]

God does not have any armor.
That's just a figment of your imagination.

Actually Wings, that's a figment of your translation.

The phrase "of God" had been translated as the Subjective Genitive, also known as a possessive.

Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.​

- Ephesians 6:11 KJV

This leads you to think that author is literally saying that God has armor.

- ενδυσασθε την πανοπλιαν του θεου

But the phrase του θεου ought to have been translated as the Objective Genitive.

= Put on the whole armour for ("concerning") God....

I provide a LINK to a summary chart for the Koine Greek Genitive Case system. (See page two.)


You're welcome,
Rhema

 

[Garee]

The phrase "of God" had been translated as the Subjective Genitive, also known as a possessive.

Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.- Ephesians 6:11 KJV

This leads you to think that author is literally saying that God has armor.

I would think it leads mankind to think the sword of the Spirit is the word of God .

He that has no form does not need armor .

 

[Rhema]

I would think it leads mankind to think the sword of the Spirit is the word of God .

(Why do I bother...)

Hi Garee. Mankind can think that all it would like, but what they think it means is wrong. If my post (LINK HERE) is too complicated, the English phrase "the word of God" doesn't mean the Bible. The Greek word is Rhema, and this verse means that the Spirit is the Rhema of God (the understanding provided by a direct interaction with the voice of God).

The Sword of the Spirit is prayer.

But if people cannot read Greek, then they cannot understand this. And you left out the word "which." That doesn't help either - leaving out words,.

He that has no form does not need armor .

Okay.

Rhema

 

[Deep Seeker]

I've updated the original post to correct broken YouTube video links.

CHAD
Please bear with this letter for a short time.

I am new to This Site. I have been a serious student of the Bible text for about 78 years; Even since I was a very young kid ! Thaks be to The Spirit of Elohim!
I remember asking My mother once, when I was still very young; What time of the Day was I born? She replied: Early in morning; just as it was getting light.
I did not think about that until much later in My life.Then, much later in life; It hit Me.
I wanted to come with The Light !
Wehn I was still very young; My dad, who was a mechanic; was working on a car in His garage with a friend of His. I looked inside of His care and saw a New Testament. I did not know at The Time what it was. But He saw Me looking at It and ask of I wanted It. I said yes.
Climbing up into a Tree, I tried to read It. Of course It made no sense to me then.
A little later in life, I was given the urged to proceed in the study of It. Which I did.
Then many years latter; after life trials; I continued to seek a deeper understanding of The Bible. I took a course to become a Minister; which I competed.
However, God had another plan for Me. Instead of going into a church; He put Me to work as a minister, at the plant in which I had required a job.
That is where I learned how to become One!
So I have told You about this so that You may see how strangely HE sometimes works. I think however, that You know that.

 

[Deep Seeker]

CHAD
Please bear with this letter for a short time.

I am new to This Site. I have been a serious student of the Bible text for about 78 years; Even since I was a very young kid ! Thaks be to The Spirit of Elohim!
I remember asking My mother once, when I was still very young; What time of the Day was I born? She replied: Early in morning; just as it was getting light.
I did not think about that until much later in My life.Then, much later in life; It hit Me.
I wanted to come with The Light !
Wehn I was still very young; My dad, who was a mechanic; was working on a car in His garage with a friend of His. I looked inside of His care and saw a New Testament. I did not know at The Time what it was. But He saw Me looking at It and ask of I wanted It. I said yes.
Climbing up into a Tree, I tried to read It. Of course It made no sense to me then.
A little later in life, I was given the urged to proceed in the study of It. Which I did.
Then many years latter; after life trials; I continued to seek a deeper understanding of The Bible. I took a course to become a Minister; which I competed.
However, God had another plan for Me. Instead of going into a church; He put Me to work as a minister, at the plant in which I had required a job.
That is where I learned how to become One!
So I have told You about this so that You may see how strangely HE sometimes works. I think however, that You know that. DeepSeeker

 

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I would highly suggest, that you take whatever Paul wrote with a grain of salt. However he does say a lot of things that are true, but I highly suggest that you take it him with a grain of salt, if you're going to rely on it as the truth. Works for me all the time.

In fact I'll go one step further and highly suggest to you, that you just get your truth straight from the Holy Ghost that is dwelling within you, that is if the Holy Ghost is even dwelling within you. Maybe that's why you got to lean towards believing someone and relying on someone for the truth as they see it, other than the Holy Ghost dwelling within you, because the Holy Ghost isn't dwelling within you?

Hello @Leumas,

The Apostle Paul was chosen by God Himself to be an Apostle of the risen Christ. An Apostle is one who is sent on behalf of another, and in this case sent on behalf of the risen Christ Himself. So, do not dismiss the teaching that he gives, for he spoke on behalf of His Lord, and when voicing his own opinion at any time, makes that perfectly clear.

The Holy Spirit would not direct anyone in a manner contrary to what is written.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Leumas]

Hello @Leumas,

The Apostle Paul was chosen by God Himself to be an Apostle of the risen Christ.

Says who?

 

[Garee]

(Why do I bother...)

Hi Garee. Mankind can think that all it would like, but what they think it means is wrong. If my post (LINK HERE) is too complicated, the English phrase "the word of God" doesn't mean the Bible. The Greek word is Rhema, and this verse means that the Spirit is the Rhema of God (the understanding provided by a direct interaction with the voice of God).

The Sword of the Spirit is prayer.

But if people cannot read Greek, then they cannot understand this. And you left out the word "which." That doesn't help either - leaving out words,.


Okay.

Rhema

Thanks for the bother.

Rhema living utterance of words coming from the mouth of God.

What the whole world thinks is wrong and what you think is right?

Not you do not know Greek as if we were in the first century. Today let your finger do the walking many good sights that give the etymology of words.

I would think it would be impossible to separate the powerful word of the Spirit "Let there be" from the and it good testimony. . the spiritual understnding

According to the sword of the Holy Spirit, spiritual unseen words have spiritual understanding

Without the spiritual understanding of the spiritual words Christ spoke not without parables. Comparing the temporal historical to the unseen eternal things of faith or power the recipe (2 Corinthians 4:18) is needed to rightly divide or interpret the parables. It st be applied or there can be no gospel rest from our own labor.

The double-edged sword of the Holy Spirit (Rhema) cuts or divides or interprets. . a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Hebrew 4:12;For the word of God (Rhema)is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Proverbs 1:23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words (Rhema) unto you.
John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: (Rhema) for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

1 Corinthians 12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word (Rhema)of knowledge by the same Spirit;

1 Corinthians 2:13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.( (Rhema)

 

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Says who?

'Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ
through the will of God, '
(1Cor 1:1a )

'Paul, an apostle,
(not of men,
neither by man,
but by Jesus Christ,
and God the Father,
who raised Him from the dead )'
(Gal 1:1 )

 

[Rhema]

'Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ
through the will of God, '
(1Cor 1:1a )

'Paul, an apostle,
(not of men,
neither by man,
but by Jesus Christ,
and God the Father,
who raised Him from the dead )'
(Gal 1:1 )

So then Paul himself says who...

If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.​

- John 5:31 KJV

 

[Garee]

So then Paul himself says who...

If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.​

- John 5:31 KJV

It does not matter which apostle says the gospel its not their living word.

Same thing as the Son of man, Jesus .The Father witness not seen (Let there be)makes it God alone good

Not as I will but you with powerful faith belief)

Matthew 26:39 And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

Two is the one witness God has spoke, Outwardly demonstrating the invisible things of God's power by using that which is visible dying (Parable )

 

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So then Paul himself says who...

If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.​

- John 5:31 KJV

@Rhema,

You should be ashamed to even suggest impropriety by one so chosen !
If you continue to do this. I for one will leave the forum for good.

 

[Twistie]

@Rhema,

You should be ashamed to even suggest impropriety by one so chosen !
If you continue to do this. I for one will leave the forum for good.

we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.


Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


Hope all's well with you n yours

,(⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ᴥ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ⁠ʋ⁠)

 

[Twistie]

So then Paul himself says who...

If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.​

- John 5:31 KJV

O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.

(⁠ﾉ⁠*⁠0⁠*⁠)⁠ﾉ

 

[Rhema]

@Rhema,

You should be ashamed to even suggest impropriety by one so chosen !
If you continue to do this. I for one will leave the forum for good.

Blind faith is shameful.

 

[Rhema]

This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Neither.

Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.​

- Acts 2:37-39 KJV

And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:​

- Luke 6:46-47 KJV

Paul preached Christ and him crucified. We preach Jesus and him Resurrected. There is a difference.

Agape,
Rhema