It seems that these books have information coinciding with some of the old testament books and I am curious if we have real proof that they should not have been included in what we presently call the Bible?
Ultimately I am fishing for answers.
I also wonder if any research with equidistant letter sequencing has been done on these books, as that, to me, would make it pretty convincing that we should perhaps give these books a little more thought.
Looking forward to hearing some sound feedback :smile:
In that case what about Sirach? Maybe , the books you inquire about are not as threatening from some perspectives? Your post should be removed though because the books being discused are not your 66 books of Protestant Canon .Fall in line soldier you are NOT permitted to be a free thinker , Get back in the chains of your denomination. LOL!
I was looking forward to feed back as well concerning Sirach. It would seem the only answer I got was a book burning and no intelligent reason why just removal of my thread. Based on that spirits action, I know Sirach is truth . For the Spirit of Christ has answer and is never threatened. But that contrary to ones indoctrination, is FEARED. The Folly of unwarranted censor, removes what it can not understand nor disprove. Therefore, it is clear that Sirach and my thread is true. For no answer against by any in here could be given, though Christ says , "fear not what you are to say , for it will not be you speaking but your heavenly Father." I think people are afraid to find out the truth in here .
Freedom of discussion is for the strong, CENSORING for the weak. Throughout history it has been the weak minded who Censor and oppress for fear of being wrong. Christians do not censor ,when it come to books of spiritual discussion. They know the TRUTH always prevails!
At least some debate is given,so that proof against or for can be weighed in the balance. Proof in any case must be presented to consider something False. That is intelligent , free flowing debate, not controlling, forced indoctrination!
Seems the RCC offshoot too removes and subjugates what it does not understand. Not COOL! Just saying.....and this thread which is allowed, very hypocritical! Further proof of the spirit in here ! For the spirit of Christ is NO Hypocrite!
There is in each of us a dangerous temptation toward hypocrisy, to be one thing but to pretend to be another. There are many within the church who are hypocrites, people who claim to be Christians but who are, in fact, unbelievers attempting to convince others (and perhaps themselves) that they are followers of Jesus Christ. They are people who do not practice true virtue but who instead offer counterfeit versions of it. Jude compares them to clouds without water in that they seem to be full of the "Spirit " but are actually devoid of true goodness.
Hypocrisy angers God. God hates hypocrisy and hypocrites because hypocrisy misuses religion, taking advantage of its laws and decrees for self-advancement. The hypocrite wants religion—even the Christian faith—only for the advantages he gains from it. He fails to truly turn his heart to God and do good to God’s people. He carries Christ in his Bible, but not in his heart. He serves the devil while wearing the uniform of Christ. He will be condemned by God.
Hypocrisy is self-delusion. Many hypocrites deceive themselves, thinking that their hypocritical deeds are evidence of true godliness or, even worse, that they have the ability to merit God’s favor. The person who collects counterfeit money harms no one more than himself. The person who piles up counterfeit godliness does the greatest damage to his own soul. “The hypocrite deceives others while he lives, but deceives himself when he dies.”
it would seem partiality is being shown with your post being allowed and mine being removed, when I clearly asked what people thought while also giving my belief concerning Sirach. It is clear MY POST was too HOT! Sounds like the Holy Spirit fire was too much and it was removed.
James 2:9
New American Standard Bible
But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors.
King James Bible
But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
Darby Bible Translation
But if ye have respect of persons, ye commit sin, being convicted by the law as transgressors.
World English Bible
But if you show partiality, you commit sin, being convicted by the law as transgressors.
I SHOW NO PARTIALITY! But have been treated as such by all in here. I will definitely share your forum with other Christians.:grin:
Now, this assembly in the spirit of folly will steal what you want from my post to fit in your design of religion but it is clear it is NOT TRUE RELIGION.
The Way of Folly Proverbs9;
…16“Whoever is simple, let him turn in here!” To him who lacks judgment she says: 17“Stolen water is sweet, and bread eaten in secret is tasty!” 18But they do not know that the dead are there, that her guests are in the depths of Sheol.…
Folly is a Woman meaning a false church. There are many Women which defile, and they are all of the spirit of folly.
I am NO FOOL because I have not been defiled by your false doctrine and hypocrisy because I have not fornicated against the Word. I am a virgin soul, meaning made in the image of the spotless (Immaculate Virgin Mother of Christ). What the the Rev. 12 sign ,means for the the Bride. the sign of Immanuel , his Mother is the image of Christ Elect. I am Chaste in spirit and avoid extramarital affairs, meaning will never give up my faith in the Christ and His True Religion!
Revelation 14 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
The Lamb and the 144,000 Rev!4;
14 Then I looked, and lo, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder; the voice I heard was like the sound of harpers playing on their harps, 3 and they sing a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and before the elders. No one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who had been redeemed from the earth. 4 It is these who have not (defiled themselves with women), for they are chaste; it is these who follow the Lamb wherever he goes; these have been redeemed from mankind as first fruits for God and the Lamb, 5 and in their mouth no lie was found, for they are spotless.
There is NO lie in my mouth as in yours I am spotless= Immaculate. PARTIALITY , that in itself has convicted this forum and shows its essence.
