Pretty good......
You certainly can present evidence in a very understanding way.
I am not sure what point you where making with piptō petō "Fallen" means to be thrust down though.
This Wrath of God upon the harlot is localised, it does not affect God's Church. It is over very quickly, just one day, do not panic.
See Mike, three whole chapters of Revs (Wrath) without us recieving a scratch.
Now what effect does the Church have on Satan's plan.
Remember Mike that the Church has been diminished via the falling away.
The Harlot system is taken down under the agreement of the Antichrist and beast system. Seems God somehow put in their minds to destroy this city and system. Being part of all the false religions the Antichrist feels that since he is god, then these other belief systems have to go. The ten nations with the Antichrist agree, and it's wiped out in a day. I can assume it was nuked.
Tribulation is more than just a couple bad days........
Luk 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
The days of vengence cover all the vials, trumpets, plagues and the other nasty stuff occurring.
Luk 21:35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
These days of vengeance come on all that are on the whole earth. We are told to keep ourselves so that we may escape
ALL these things that shall come to pass.............
ALL these things David...................... ALL THINGS. Not just a few of the more worse things.
Saints, are they safe?
The message coming from the 144,000 sealed Jews to carry the testimony of Jesus across the globe bring many back that do not accept the beast system. Those many Christians that had been left also get a clue as they see all the events of Rev unfold before their eyes. It's a very short period of seven years in which God deals with Israel and the rest of man.
There is no power to carry the testimony of Jesus given to anyone else. If we where left here, we would have been the force behind converting many during this time. We are not mentioned one time during tribulation.
No Gospel of Christ, no Church mentioned, no Brothers or sisters mentioned, nothing. The Church is not there!!! Had we been there, the whole text would have focused on us.
Our Job is done:
We spread the gospel all over the World, we did our Job, then the end comes. When the temple is set up, Flee inhabitants of Israel. Destruction is coming. Those that ignored the free gift of Jesus are left here to face a time this Earth has never seen.
The saints that are here do not go unscathed.
This is a period of time the Earth has never seen. It's a Hellish seven years with
possible evidence of Nukes covering many locations.
Jer 25:32 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold,
evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a
great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.
Jer 25:33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.
Rev 13:7 And
it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Rev 13:8 And
all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
No place is the Church told that the powers of Satan can touch us. In fact we our told God will never leave us or forsake us. The Gates of Hell can not prevail against the Church. We have been delivered from the power of Darkness, I give you the authority to tread on serpents and scorpions and nothing by any means shall hurt you. (Luke 10:19)
2Th 3:2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.
2Th 3:3 But
the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you,
and keep you from evil.
For us to be here during Tribulation, where the Beast system has power to destroy us, is to say that God lied to the Church, and the Holy Spirit no longer has power.
We come back with the Lord: More evidence we are not there.
Zec 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and
all the saints with thee.
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings:
and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
A thief does not leave a wake of destruction, and send e-mails warning that he is coming. This is instruction in Johns vision to the Church that just as Jesus said, ALL those things can be avoided.
So David, Might as well just get use to the idea that your going to have to watch the Whole tribulation from a Wide screen TV in Heaven. Don't fret, you won't get bored.
Jesus Is Lord.
