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The Gospel of Satan

"Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven"

That first post is as if the guy thinks he is Jesus himself
He is far from it, as I am also far from it.....

Explain the story about Jesus the rich devoted Christian and the prositute. It is about his grace!

Hi Redeemer,

I need to clarify.

Although I do believe that believers in catholicism are not eternally damned to Hell, but as I stated... they are labouring in unbelief as in coming short of that rest, it is at the risk of being left behind at the rapture event which is a damnation in and of itself. For once that door is shut for the Marriage supper of the Lamb, that particular inheritance cannot be had again nor offered in that way again as those left behind will go through the great tribulation.

Judgment must fall on the House of God first, and that occurs at the rapture as evident that some will not be ready and be left behind. Those left behind are the other sheep Jesus talked about and why those people that came out of the great tribulation had to have their tears wiped away from their weeping and gnashing of teeth for there is a loss in being left behind in not being found abiding in Him.

Jesus taught excommunication and so He will judge the House of God accordingly at the rapture. Hebrews 12th chapter and 1 Corinthians 3:10-23 will explain why and how that the other sheep are His, but He will finish even His work in them that gets left behind for it is the will of the Father that He shall lose nothing. John 6:44

So the call to be ready is urgent now more than ever as apostasy abounds in the churches as many go astray and only a few find that Door, Jesus, to have the relationship with God through the Son... not just for Him as the Saviour but as the Good Shepherd as well
 
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I think that Coconut's 2006 citation from Arthur Pink was nothing but a badly needed expose' of dead religion in general. I grew up in the Catholic Church in the 1940s thru the 1960s and the services were "11:00 o'clock sharp to 12:00 o'clock dull" nearly all the time. Time after time priests tried to guilt trip people into giving more money or being more active in the church.

You didn't dare go to church dressed casually and it was scandalous if boys wore bluejeans to church. Instead of people hanging around after service and chatting together (as happens now at my non-denominational church), there was a race to the parking lot after service.

This wasn't lmited to the Catholic church. Where I lived when I was in elementary school, there were several old line Protestant churches on the road between our house and the parish we belonged to and people didn't seem to fellowship much after service at those places either.

I still believe with all my heart in the concept of organized religion. But, drastic changes in it are needed and needed quickly if this generation is to know Jesus.

SLE
 
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I agree. I am a new believer and it hurts me very badly to think because my own father was catholic, that he is not with Jesus.......

I think being born again is a much more passionate religion, and I feel the Lord has saved me and chosen me. I also feel there are allot of good Catholics who will be with me in heaven.

I know my relationship with CHRIST is real. He shows me everyday. Catholic thoughts are that they are on their own until death and their judgement. They don't look for Jesus.

There is good people in all religions. We are all sinners. And Catholics do believe Jesus is our saviour....

Dont mind my grammar
 
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I agree. I am a new believer and it hurts me very badly to think because my own father was catholic, that he is not with Jesus.......

I think being born again is a much more passionate religion, and I feel the Lord has saved me and chosen me. I also feel there are allot of good Catholics who will be with me in heaven.

I know my relationship with CHRIST is real. He shows me everyday. Catholic thoughts are that they are on their own until death and their judgement. They don't look for Jesus.

There is good people in all religions. We are all sinners. And Catholics do believe Jesus is our saviour....

Dont mind my grammar

Probably a clarification on your part is needed in regards to the statement that there are good people in all religions, but yet you say we are all sinners. Although both can be seen as true, if we shift from the eyes of the world and then to God's view respectively, but as it is, if we hold to God's view, there is none righteous, no, not one. There is none that doeth good, no, not one. The good people that we see in other religions like Islam, Hindu, Buddha, or whatever non-christian religion that is out there, are not seen as good in the eyes of God. Redemption can only be had through Jesus Christ. God knows those that seek Him and He would have them find the Good News. Those that prefer darkness and not come to the Light, would just continue to hide behind religious rituals and maintain the appearance of a religious man. That is why it is far better for what you have in a relationship with Jesus Christ than to hide behind man made doctrines of catholicism. That is the whole point of Jesus coming to deal with sin so as to restore the relationship with God the Father through the Son.

As religion creeps in to add filthy rags of righteousness to what Jesus has done is provoking God to burn away those wood, stubble, and hay for those left behind so when they are presented before God, it will be His righteousness and Jesus alone that brings them into the Kingdom of Heaven which is the glory of God for all those that believe in Him.

Sometimes, we have to be clear in regards to our faith and not appear to have friendship with the world, for then, we have need to come out of the world if our faith is to shine against the works of darkness as we are called to bear witness of the Good News and keep the faith which is the good fight.... and that is something the Lord Jesus, My Good Shepherd, is helping me to do as I rest In Him to do it.

Loving others over loving Jesus must not occur, because to love others is to seek for them to have what we have in Christ Jesus means to tell them why Jesus is the Good News and why catholicism or any other religion isn't. It is a hard thing to do when they are devout, but if they ever come down from their cloud nine of loving God in their rituals, they may realize how much God loves them that they may rest in His righteounsess, instead of trying to obtain it through catholicism. And for those that love Jesus that are in the Catholic Church but does not believe catholicism is necessary, their faith cannot be seen if they stay within and do the things that others believe is necessary as in the Mass or whatever. To show love for them that are in it, they must withdraw to rpove that their faith is in Jesus, not the catholic Church or the works therein.

Too many Catholics love Jesus, but they show it by their works for Him, not by resting in His finished work in making us His by grace through faith. One must remember that He first loved us, not we to Him. While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. It is by believing in Jesus and trusting Him at His Word, can believers love Jesus for what He did, so they do not lose themselves in doing the things to prove their love for Him in catholicism. It is His love for us that is His glory.

Bottomline, if you value your relationship with Christ, you would not want your loved ones to settle for second best. Do share your faith as to why you left the catholic church, and why it is better in Christ Jesus.

May the Lord help you to do that, and may He call some out into a relationship with Him with nothing between Him and them anymore.

As I pray that the Lord will help me to stay off the internet as I do not believe He wants me to be on it anymore. Amen.

Nice sharing my faith with you, Redeemer, but I gotta let go & let God.
 
I also thought I may add that,"oness pentecostalism," and "the word of faith movement"
is another gospel infecting the church,stand guard and contend for the faith.
JUDE 3-4.
 
reedemer32,dont ever let any teacher/preacher disqualify you or your Dad.
Because our fellow man could be very dogmatic and treacherous when it comes to making judgements based on their understanding of what God is saying.It's good to know the truth and love the truth,but it's never right to mow every one down that doesnt hold to our exact understanding.

The bible says,that God has many sheep,and there are folds that we havent a clue about.
Judge notting before its time,rather let us judge our selves that we may not be judged.
 
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Cruelty of Christians

How much longer are we going to allow Catholics to be denyed our acceptance into the brotherhood of believers?

Does anyone out there realize your crushing these dear brothers and sisters spirits,shame on all of you bible scholars.

I despise the fact that we could casually sit behind our computers in our cozzy little offices handing out judgements, as if all this is just a hobby.
 
Why is satan called the fallen angel?

Was satan an angel who was cast out of Heaven?

And, if so is there a scripture to help back that up?

I looked up Isaiah 14:12 & cross referenced it, I came up with Ezekiel 28:13-17.

Does Ezekiel 28:13-19 speek of satan?

It states that GOD said that HE anointed him Guardian Angel, untill he sinned.

Ezekiel 28:13-19
13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; your clothing was bejeweled with every precious stone--ruby, topaz, diamond, chrysolite, onyx, jasper, sapphire, carbuncle, and emerald--all in beautiful settings of finest gold. They were given to you on the day you were created.

14 I appointed you to be the anointed Guardian Angel. You had access to the holy mountain of God. You walked among the stones of fire.

15 ``You were perfect in all you did from the day you were created until that time when wrong was found in you.

16 Your great wealth filled you with internal turmoil and you sinned. Therefore, I cast you out of the mountain of God like a common sinner. I destroyed you, O Guardian Angel, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17 Your heart was filled with pride because of all your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor. Therefore I have cast you down to the ground and exposed you helpless before the curious gaze of kings.

18. You defiled your holiness with lust for gain; therefore I brought forth fire from your own actions and let it burn you to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all those watching you.

19. All who know you are appalled at your fate; you are an example of horror; you are destroyed forever.''


So is the sripture in Ezekiel 28:13-19, speeking a bout a wicked King & not satan?

Or, did the wicked King have the spirit of satan in him?

And that's why it seemed like it was discribing satan?

And if the scripture is speeking about a wicked King, then why does it say in the scripture;

" You were in Eden, the garden of GOD,

I appointed you to be the anointed Guardian Angel.

You had access to the holy mountain of God.

You were PERFECT in all you did from the day you were created until that time when wrong was found in you.

Your great wealth filled you with internal turmoil and you sinned.

Therefore, I cast you out of the mountain of God like a common sinner."
Does this not discribe a fallen angel, satan himself?



Thank you for your time & effort. Your Sister in Christ Jesus, *genesis
 
satan is imitator

hi Coconut great thread that you post it really shake me once again i realise we must be in line with GOD other wise we loose the path thanx for the warning be bless [rev 1;8 I am the Alfa and Omega says the LORD GOD who is and who was and who is to come the ALMIGHTY ]
 
The word angel simply means messenger; many time there are heavenly messengers as well as in some cases earthy messenger, you must weigh each verse closely.

NT:32

aggelos (ang'-el-os); from aggello [probably derived from NT:71; compare NT:34] (to bring tidings); a messenger; especially an "angel"; by implication, a pastor:

This was not a translation from the Greek, but instead the transliteration took the Greek word “aggelos” and concocted the word angel which simply means messenger.

Yes Satan fought the Arch Angel Michael; but if you notice Satan was referred to as Satan, the devil or the dragon never and arch angel or Lucifer.


I believe many give Satan far too much power; Satan has no power unless God ordains that power. Satan cannot be an angel in his beginning; all beings have one beginning except God who has always been here.






Isaiah 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his works; and I have created the waster to destroy.


(See God created Satan as a distroyer)


How can Lucifer be Satan if God created Satan as a destroyer? Can Satan have two beginnings; sounds pretty impossible.


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Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in <st1:city><st1:place>Eden</st1:place></st1:city> the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering-----------in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth -----15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Is 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven O Lucifer, son of the morning!------13 For thou hast said in thine heart (mind) I will ascend into heaven, ---- 14 I will belike the most High, 15 yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit, -----16----Is this the MAN that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms------.



These two verses say nothing about Satan; they are speaking of Lucifer.


Now the religious system teaches that Ez 28:13 and Is <st1:time hour="14" minute="12">14:12</st1:time> are speaking of Satan and the KJ Bible is the only version that uses the word Lucifer. It is not even a Hebrew word.


Moffat translation says "What a fall from heaven O Shining star of the dawns" <st1:place>Rotherham</st1:place>"How hast thou fallen from heaven, O shining One, son of the dawn!"

Amplified "how are you fallen from heaven O light-bearer and day star, son of the morning!"

2 Pet 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts.


<st1:time hour="22" minute="16">Rev 22:16</st1:time> I JESUS have sent mine angel to testify unto you these thing sin the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

The word Lucifer in the Strong's Concordance says it is a title applied to the king of <st1:city><st1:place>Babylon</st1:place></st1:city>. The word itself means the morning star. The word MAN means a mortal, an individual, a male person. I could rest my case on just that one verse alone, but why would Peter under the direction of the Holy Spirit compare Jesus as the Day star with Lucifer the Devil?
It is the erroneous translation of the KJ that infers such.
Lucifer was never an Arc Angel, he was a MAN. (Satan is a spirit.)

Is14:15 says he was brought down to hell, (sheol, place of the dead) the side of the pit. Satan is never thrown in the grave because he has no part in a natural death as he is a spiritual being. Only MAN dies and is placed in a grave. Evil spirits only go to a place called Tartarus and Satan the high ranking one is sent to the lake of fire.( which is not hell)




Jesus in Jn 8:44 Said Ye are of your father, the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the BEGINNINGand abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it.

See God's Word does it again and declares Satan's beginnings were a murderer not an angel; SO WHAT IS IT?????





1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the BEGINNING.For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil..

I keep finding these verses that declares Satan was something other then an Arch Angel in his beginning; I say again can Satan have two beginnings?


I cannot see that Satan had two beginnings. The word beginning in the Greek means beginning of source. Not first he was an angel, second he was a murder and liar.

Which one was he?

Obviously Satan is the great deceiver; could it be he has deceived the vast majority of God’s people to believe he was an angel of light; when all he has ever been is a deceiver, a liar and a murderer?
 
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Why is it that I post six different post on this subject using God's Word and all of them were deleted? Is someone affaid of a conflicting opinion?
 

The word Lucifer in the Strong's Concordance says it is a title applied to the king of Babylon. The word itself means the morning star. The word MAN means a mortal, an individual, a male person. I could rest my case on just that one verse alone, but why would Peter under the direction of the Holy Spirit compare Jesus as the Day star with Lucifer the Devil?

It is the erroneous translation of the KJ that infers such.
Lucifer was never an Arc Angel, he was a MAN. (Satan is a spirit.)

Is14:15 says he was brought down to hell, (sheol, place of the dead) the side of the pit. Satan is never thrown in the grave because he has no part in a natural death as he is a spiritual being. Only MAN dies and is placed in a grave. Evil spirits only go to a place called Tartarus and Satan the high ranking one is sent to the lake of fire.( which is not hell)

You said that Satan is a spirit, so, that being so, could have Satan's spirit possessed Lucifer's body?
Remember when Jesus said to Peter in Matthew 16:23
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Wasn't Satan using Peter to try to convince Jesus not go through what He had to go through?
 
You said that Satan is a spirit, so, that being so, could have Satan's spirit possessed Lucifer's body?
Remember when Jesus said to Peter in Matthew 16:23
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Wasn't Satan using Peter to try to convince Jesus not go through what He had to go through?


If he is chapter and verse please; my point is Satan can have only one beginning. I look around this forum and many act like Satan has power independent of God. Satan is and was a created being and has no power unless God ordains it. He is not pulling the wool over God's eyes if God had eyes.
 
If he is chapter and verse please; my point is Satan can have only one beginning. I look around this forum and many act like Satan has power independent of God. Satan is and was a created being and has no power unless God ordains it. He is not pulling the wool over God's eyes if God had eyes.

LOL, yeah some do seem think along those lines here at TJ.

Your statement reminded me of something that T.Austin Sparks said once.

We must be very careful of our deductions, and in one connection especially, namely, with regard to the fact that the Lord gives the enemy a good deal of rope, and the enemy gains many advantages and has a large measure of success. But, remember, Satan's power and Satan's success are not in spite of God but because of God. If you can draw that distinction, you will be greatly helped. Satan's Power is not in spite of God, but because of God. God is allowing it. It is under the sovereignty of God. God is simply drawing it out, extending it, and when the cup of iniquity is full, then God will come in and show how overwhelming He is. That is the end. Beware of your deductions when you see evil having a great measure of success. Understand what God is doing. He is not going to show His power against the thing in its infancy. What power of God would that be? No, God displays His power when a thing is fullgrown.
 
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