i havent said anything about secret things. secret rapture? wheter its secret is irrelevant. did you read mat 24:31 ?? that's some verse you cannot skip.... I'll post 24:30-32 here: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.