Why people believe they love ones, looking down on them smiling

[KingJ]

God hates.
Jesus hates.

Sin, not the sinner. You can dislike. The word hate is such a strong word.

We should hate what they hate. We are still human and to deny any emotion is unhealthy.

'We should' try understand the context of the word 'hate' when it is used in scripture.

God does not 'hate' any of His creation. He hates what is wicked. He hates what is evil. You need evidence of hatred to teach He hates someone. There is literally no evidence of hatred from God to anyone. Literally none!

I'm going off what they belive and say anot ONE has denied it.

Nothing wrong with hating what you assume they believe.

A Jew may have sex with a child as long as it's less than 9 years old. (Sanhedrin 54b)

This is not correct. Not that I want to defend the Talmud, but you must do proper research on claims that appear so wild.

They are making the case that a child of 9 cannot be held accountable for sexual misconduct. An adult is a separate matter entirely. They can be liable for death or imprisonment.

 

[Garee]

Sin, not the sinner. You can dislike. The word hate is such a strong word.

To hate is not to bless. . to Love is to bless

God hates the sin and the sinner.

Blessing them as a labor of love they have new born again life.

 

[MedicBravo]

Nothing wrong with hating what you assume they believe.

I know what the Jews believe as do many people. One reason why they have NOT become Jewish.
I assume nothing. Maybe you're not as learned about the Jews as you think.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Why people believe they love ones, looking down on them smiling​

Because they believe their loved ones cannot perceive the sin their lives and see only their dedication to the Lord's commission.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
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[MedicBravo]

It's unhealthy to deny Envy? Strife? Malice? Greed? Pride? Jealousy?

I rather think you should put more time into thinking about what you post.

Kindly,
Rhema

Assume nothing.
Coinicdental you picked these.
I've got Pride; my country, being a Christian, White.
Anger is normal but uncontrolled or suppressed anger are not good.
Jealousy - “threatened, protective, or fearful of losing one’s position or situation to someone else.”
A normal emotion as there are variables which can produce an outcome where those things happen.

Envy - (noun,verb) "longing to have what someone else has; attributes or possessions. Most often used as a motivator to obtain those things oneself.

Greed - "An excessively eager desire to possess something, especially wealth; avaricious desire; especially, coarse and brutal avarice." - I see people who are and do NOT want to be that. A good thing or am I wrong?

Strife -

1. Heated, often violent conflict or disagreement. synonym: conflict.
2. A conflict or quarrel.
3. Contention or competition between rivals.

Catholics and Protestants are well known to have "strife".
There can be conflicts without cursing, physical harm, and destruction.
Don't try to use the "word game" on me it won't work.

 

[BroTan]

Let's go to Romans and take a look at that spirit of God Paul talks about in Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Look at verse 2, For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. Why did he say for the Law of the Spirit of Life? What law is Paul talking about? Read Hebrews chapter 10, and it will tell you that the Sacrificial Law never could make the comers perfect. What law is he talking about that brings life and frees you from death and sin? It is the commandments, brothers and sisters.

Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: Same law here the Sacrificial Law never could make the comers perfect. Again Hebrews chapter 10, and it will tell you that

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Now again this is talking about the Commandments, see Exodus 20: 1-17. This is the righteousness of the law, Paul is talking about.

5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Notice in verse 4, that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Look at verse 7, Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Now you should see that, if you are not walking in his law you are an enemy of God. Now if you walk in His law His spirit dwells within you. Look at verse 9. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. What Spirit is that, if you are not walking after the flesh? The righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. The Spirit that dwells within you is His Word. When you look at the 11th verse you will see that it isn't a physical death it is a spiritual death, knowing the spirit that dwells within you is his word.

 

[Garee]

Let's go to Romans and take a look at that spirit of God Paul talks about in Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Look at verse 2, For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. Why did he say for the Law of the Spirit of Life? What law is Paul talking about? Read Hebrews chapter 10, and it will tell you that the Sacrificial Law never could make the comers perfect. What law is he talking about that brings life and frees you from death and sin? It is the commandments, brothers and sisters.

Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: Same law here the Sacrificial Law never could make the comers perfect. Again Hebrews chapter 10, and it will tell you that

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Now again this is talking about the Commandments, see Exodus 20: 1-17. This is the righteousness of the law, Paul is talking about.

5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Notice in verse 4, that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Look at verse 7, Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Now you should see that, if you are not walking in his law you are an enemy of God. Now if you walk in His law His spirit dwells within you. Look at verse 9. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. What Spirit is that, if you are not walking after the flesh? The righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. The Spirit that dwells within you is His Word. When you look at the 11th verse you will see that it isn't a physical death it is a spiritual death, knowing the spirit that dwells within you is his word.

The Sacrificial Law speaks of the suffering of Christ beforehand a shadow of the things to come.

A law of ceremonies as a sign to the unbelieving world. Not a sign to the believer they have prophecy till the end of time.

Aarons two sons added their own kind of ceremony called strange fire in effect worshiping shadows.

1 Peter 1:8-11 Whom having not seen, (invisible) ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not,(invisible) yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:;Receiving the end of your (new born again) faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:;;Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

Which was a figure (parable) for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;;Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

Again, ceremonial as sign or shadow to the unbelieving world. Prophecy for the believer

 

[BroTan]

The Sacrificial Law speaks of the suffering of Christ beforehand a shadow of the things to come.

A law of ceremonies as a sign to the unbelieving world. Not a sign to the believer they have prophecy till the end of time.

Aarons two sons added their own kind of ceremony called strange fire in effect worshiping shadows.

1 Peter 1:8-11 Whom having not seen, (invisible) ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not,(invisible) yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:;Receiving the end of your (new born again) faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:;;Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

Which was a figure (parable) for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;;Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

Again, ceremonial as sign or shadow to the unbelieving world. Prophecy for the believer

Paul explained this in; (Hebrews 10: (v.1) For the law (what law, the law of animal sacrifice?) having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. (v.9) Then said he, (Jesus) Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first that he may establish the second. (v.10) By which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 but this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 from henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

The point that is not understood is that we all have sin, but until Jesus came, there was no way of getting out from under your sins. So God institute a Priesthood and laws that went with the priesthood to control the sinning, and so the Lord use animal Sacrificial laws, even though it could not remove sins.

When Jesus died on the cross that was the end of the first covenant, which consisted of the blood of animals and the keeping of God’s commandments. And his death also brought in the second covenant, which consist of the blood of Jesus and the keeping of God’s commandments. (v.18) Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. In other words, no more animals are going to die for your sins. (20) by a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; (21) and having an high priest over the house of God; (v.26) For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.

Now do we understand what’s being said here? If you sin willfully after you have knowledge of what the truth is, no more animals are going to die for you. (v.27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Now if you are being deceived into believing that once you are under God’s grace you no longer have to keep his commandments, all you have to look forward to is the day of judgement and the lake of fire (fiery indignation).

 

[Bill]

1. I haven't quote you.
2. I'm ecstatic I don't know or associate with Jews considering what they think of me.
3. They DO only use a small portion of the Bible.
4. They decided to cherry pick and make their own "book".
Again, Jews are NOT Christian. They are a cursed people by their own ancestors.

Whoa, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. Holy Cow bro.

Statements 3 and 4 are total bull doo doo.

(3) what came first the chicken or the egg??? Do you even know the roots of the Bible?

(4) let's just start with John the Baptist. Was John the Baptist A Jew or a Christian? If he was a Jew how is it that he was baptized in the Holy Spirit before he knew Jesus? If he was a Christian, he would be the first, but how would you explain the fact that he died before Jesus was revealed by Peter as being the Messiah?

( yes John the Baptist was baptized in the Holy Spirit before he was even born)

How is it that the Holy Spirit could infect John's mother, who never heard the words of Jesus and yet was still filled with the Holy Spirit before Jesus was even born?

Aside from many of the Pharisees and Sadducees, there were many Jews before and at the time of Jesus who were filled with the Holy Spirit. How is it possible for Jews who do not understand Jesus, how is it possible for them to be filled with the Holy Spirit?

Maybe it is your own understanding of who Jesus is that limits you.

Do you understand that Jesus is eternal. And that if you look at all of the Old Testament it isn't God the Father who is speaking to the Jewish Nation but it is Jesus who is talking to them.

We know this because it is written in the Gospel of John. In the beginning was the Word. The Word was with God and the Word was God.

The Word is Jesus, and Jesus goes on to tell us that the only way to get to the father is through Jesus. So when we look at the Jews of the Old Testament, they aren't talking to God the Father, they're talking to Jesus. And as the scripture tells us they do not recognize Jesus. Even though they talk to him all through the Old Testament. It wasn't the God the Father that Moses talked to when he received the Ten Commandments it was Jesus who he talked to. It wasn't God the Father that Abraham spoke to, it was Jesus.

 

[Bill]

Paul explained this in; (Hebrews 10: (v.1) For the law (what law, the law of animal sacrifice?) having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. (v.9) Then said he, (Jesus) Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first that he may establish the second. (v.10) By which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 but this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 from henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

The point that is not understood is that we all have sin, but until Jesus came, there was no way of getting out from under your sins. So God institute a Priesthood and laws that went with the priesthood to control the sinning, and so the Lord use animal Sacrificial laws, even though it could not remove sins.

When Jesus died on the cross that was the end of the first covenant, which consisted of the blood of animals and the keeping of God’s commandments. And his death also brought in the second covenant, which consist of the blood of Jesus and the keeping of God’s commandments. (v.18) Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. In other words, no more animals are going to die for your sins. (20) by a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; (21) and having an high priest over the house of God; (v.26) For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.

Now do we understand what’s being said here? If you sin willfully after you have knowledge of what the truth is, no more animals are going to die for you. (v.27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Now if you are being deceived into believing that once you are under God’s grace you no longer have to keep his commandments, all you have to look forward to is the day of judgement and the lake of fire (fiery indignation).

"(v.26) For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins"
 
repentance of your sins is the only way.

 

[Garee]

Assume nothing.
Coinicdental you picked these.
I've got Pride; my country, being a Christian, White.
Anger is normal but uncontrolled or suppressed anger are not good.
Jealousy - “threatened, protective, or fearful of losing one’s position or situation to someone else.”
A normal emotion as there are variables which can produce an outcome where those things happen.

Envy - (noun,verb) "longing to have what someone else has; attributes or possessions. Most often used as a motivator to obtain those things oneself.

Greed - "An excessively eager desire to possess something, especially wealth; avaricious desire; especially, coarse and brutal avarice." - I see people who are and do NOT want to be that. A good thing or am I wrong?

Strife -

1. Heated, often violent conflict or disagreement. synonym: conflict.
2. A conflict or quarrel.
3. Contention or competition between rivals.

Catholics and Protestants are well known to have "strife".
There can be conflicts without cursing, physical harm, and destruction.
Don't try to use the "word game" on me it won't work.

I would offer.

Sounds like you think God is a racist.

Jews are used in parables as metaphors they are defined in two ways. Satan would make it all one in the same he has no gospel or spiritual understanding. He is not subject to the word of God he walks in darkness. if you are the son of man over and over.

The outward Jew according to dying flesh. (what the eyes see) the temporal. It is compared to an inward born again Jew not what the eyes see the eternal

Romans 2:28-29;For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh;But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; (death) whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Satan is the king of racism. Racism the sin of judging by outward appearance. . murder of hidden character. Only God sees into the hearts of all men and supplies them their needs

His people not his race (outward Jew) as a parable it seen represents an inward born again Jew.

 

[MedicBravo]

Sounds like you think God is a racist.

IDK where you got that. God has even said in some form "We are all one race." and we are.
Stupid humans have decided that "different skin color" equals an entirely different race of people.

A person can become Jewish but not a genetic Jew. A genetic Jew can abandon being Jewish and become whatever he/she wants.
I'm not a Jew, thank God for that every day.

In the end there isn't going to be "Jews and Christians". If you knew the truth about Jews and what they think of non-Jews you would never take up for them.

 

[Leumas]

Death and resurrection, spiritually and physically. What does this statement mean? There are a few things we must find out. Preachers are miss leading people into believing fantasy stories. People go to grave talking to dirt and statutes, buying flowers, wasting time and money. People believing that they love ones are looking down on them smiling, with all this hell going on in earth.When a person dies, does he or she have any consciousness? Does a puff of smoke leave their body and go flying off into the third heaven? Did you know that there is three heaven? Do you really believe your love ones looking down at you from heaven, smiling. Or do they just float around the earth hunting houses, jumping from behind trees scaring people? If you have a logical bone in your body you know that is sheer nonsense. It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true" (John 8:17). We will quote testimonies from the Prophets and the Apostle.

Who gave them the word? (Acts 7:52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which showed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers: 53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.) They received the law by the disposition of angels.

Where did the angels get the word? (Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John The angels got it from the Lord. The Lord got it from the Father. The Prophets and the Apostle are simply quoting the Lord. If you don't believe them, you don't believe the Lord.

Our first witness is Solomon. He is very wise, as a matter of fact he was wiser than any man that walked the earth, except for Jesus of course. Why? I Kings 3:28 And all Israel heard of the judgment which the king had judged; and they feared the king: for they saw that the wisdom of God was in him, to do judgment. I Kings 4:1 So king Solomon was king over all Israel. He had the wisdom of God.

Let' see what Solomon has to say about this subject. Ecclesiastes 9:3 This is an evil among all things that are done under the sun, that there is one event unto all: yea, also the heart of the sons of men is full of evil, and madness is in their heart while they live, and after that they go to the dead.

Take a look at what Solomon said. This event happened to us all while we are under the sun. Why did he say under the sun? We'll find this out later. Pay close attention here. The heart of the sons of men is full of evil, and madness is in their heart while they live. While they live. Then what happens after that? They go to the dead.

Why would anyone
Care what Solomon
had to say about
Anything?

 

[Bill]

Why would anyone
Care what Solomon
had to say about
Anything?

Are you an atheist? I'm just curious because I can't quite figure out where you're coming from with things that you say that I've read so far.

A person who does not understand Christianity or chooses not to understand Christianity and not understand where the roots of Christianity come from would speak like you are.

I'm not condemning you for your thoughts but they are a strange to me.

Tell me are you a historian at all, I mean do you like American history?

 

[Leumas]

Are you an atheist? I'm just curious because I can't quite figure out where you're coming from with things that you say that I've read so far.

A person who does not understand Christianity or chooses not to understand Christianity and not understand where the roots of Christianity come from would speak like you are.

I'm not condemning you for your thoughts but they are a strange to me.

Tell me are you a historian at all, I mean do you like American history?

The reason why you
can't figure out
Why I say the things
that I say
Is because it far exceeds
The limitations of your wisdom
and understanding of your carnal
and spiritual knowledge.

 

[Bill]

The reason why you
can't figure out
Why I say the things
that I say
Is because it far exceeds
The limitations of your wisdom
and understanding of your carnal
and spiritual knowledge.

Well you'll be happy to know that I am a fool for Christ. And I take that seriously as my birthday is on April Fool's Day.

So what makes you think that your experience and everything far outdoes everyone else. I have a pretty open mind about things I've seen a lot of craziness from God you could say. So please feel free to share with me

 

[Leumas]

Well you'll be happy to know that I am a fool for Christ. And I take that seriously as my birthday is on April Fool's Day.

So what makes you think that your experience and everything far outdoes everyone else. I have a pretty open mind about things I've seen a lot of craziness from God you could say. So please feel free to share with me

I don't help people
Or teach people
That disrespect me
Unless the Holy Ghost
commands me to do it

 

[Bill]

I don't help people
Or teach people
That disrespect me
Unless the Holy Ghost
commands me to do it

If that's how you feel Holy Spirit relates to you then it is not the holy spirit that is communicating with you

 

[BroTan]

Why would anyone
Care what Solomon
had to say about
Anything?

In the scriptures it's written in 2 Chronicles 1: 7 In that night did God appear unto Solomon, and said unto him, Ask what I shall give thee. 8 And Solomon said unto God, Thou hast shewed great mercy unto David my father, and hast made me to reign in his stead. 9 Now, O LORD God, let thy promise unto David my father be established: for thou hast made me king over a people like the dust of the earth in multitude. 10 Give me now wisdom and knowledge, that I may go out and come in before this people: for who can judge this thy people, that is so great? 11 And God said to Solomon, Because this was in thine heart, and thou hast not asked riches, wealth, or honour, nor the life of thine enemies, neither yet hast asked long life; but hast asked wisdom and knowledge for thyself, that thou mayest judge my people, over whom I have made thee king: 12 wisdom and knowledge is granted unto thee; and I will give thee riches, and wealth, and honour, such as none of the kings have had that have been before thee, neither shall there any after thee have the like.
Let's take a look at why we care to hear Solomon in 1 Kings 4: 29 And God gave Solomon wisdom and understanding exceeding much, and largeness of heart, even as the sand that is on the sea shore. 30And Solomon's wisdom excelled the wisdom of all the children of the east country, and all the wisdom of Egypt. 31 For he was wiser than all men; than Ethan the Ezrahite, and Heman, and Chalcol, and Darda, the sons of Mahol: and his fame was in all nations round about.
32 And he spake three thousand proverbs: and his songs were a thousand and five. 34 And there came of all people to hear the wisdom of Solomon, from all kings of the earth, which had heard of his wisdom.

 

[BroTan]

"(v.26) For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins"
 
repentance of your sins is the only way.

Depends on the situation, Paul says in Colossians 1: 23 if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

So what happen if you do not continue in the faith, because you are not grounded and your hope of the gospel is not strong. A person might give up. Anybody can claim to have faith, but actions speak louder than words. Faith and works go together and you can't have one without the other. "Here is the patience of the saints; here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus" (Revelation 14:12).