DieAmartyr
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Do you mean because our Lord rose from the dead? I would agree with you there!How can you be in the Narrow Gate to Life, if you believe everyone dies physically?
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SignUp Now!Do you mean because our Lord rose from the dead? I would agree with you there!How can you be in the Narrow Gate to Life, if you believe everyone dies physically?
Most christians don't believe what salvation is - "be made whole spirit, soul and body" (I Thess 5:23). They resist the transfiguration of the body now, thus " God has sent them a strong delusion, that they should believe a lie". And they perish - die physically.
Actually, if you think about it, when you get caught up to meet Him in the air, you do pass through death. Your present flesh body will die as you go into your spirit body. In the twinkling of an eye you pass through death into eternal life. But death is nothing to fear, nothing to dread since you're technically already in eternity. Born again.Merlin -- Everyone is going to die a physical death -- well -- unless a born again person is alive at the time of the rapture of the Church. Other wise we All die a physical death. The spiritual part of a person Does live on for eternity. Either in heaven or the lake of fire and brimstone.
Transfiguration = a change in form or appearance. The only usage of transfiguration in Scripture is referring to the transfiguration of Jesus while up in the mountain. His form was changed into the brightness of God for just a moment and then He came back down from the mountain top.
Maybe you're referring to the glorified body that born again believers will get after we're with Jesus Christ.
At the time of a person's salvation, the Holy Spirit comes to indwell them immediately. This does not change their outward appearance. Their Inner person -- they Do receive a spiritual nature.
What catagory do you put yourself in?
@PloughBoy -- Only God has All-knowledge -- He alone is All-powerful -- He alone is all-seeing. Those omni's -- omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent. He alone has those attributes BECAUSE He is God Almighty.
PloughBoy -- you are as much of This world as everyone Else who has ever been born into this world -- and that is Everyone. And we All will go into eternity -- either heaven or hell. And That decision is made by each individual. The belief in your heart and your confession unto salvation. That Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that He died on the cross for our sins / shed His blood / and that He was buried and that He rose again bodily on the 3rd day. That is what each person needs to believe in their heart in order To be saved. As per 1 Corinthians 15 and Romans 10: 9 - 10.
And God alone is The Creator of all things. He has all knowledge.
And remember that God created Adam and then Eve out of Adam.
One thing we do tend to forget -- while they were in the garden of Eden -- they were told to Not eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. But they did Not obey God, they listened instead to the serpant / satan. God had warned them that If they Did eat of that particular tree they would Die. Which means that they were created to be able to live forever. But satan convinced Eve that God didn't really mean what He said. To go ahead and eat from it because then she would have the same knowledge that God did. So she ate of it and gave some to Adam and he ate also. THEN their eyes were opened -- they saw they were naked and were ashamed and hid from God. Well -- they Thought they were hiding form God -- but God saw them hiding and asked them about it. Then they confessed what they'd done. God already Knew what they had done. He was waiting for them to confess / to be honest with God. One of the many results is that they Did eventually die physically. But - as Scripture teaches us later on is that though the physical body dies. The Spirit lives on Forever. Just as Jesus Christ resurrected, we Too will resurrect -- a glorified body for born again believers
I got side-tracked -- the subject of good and evil. Mankind is capable of Very good actions / thoughts and Also very capable of very evil actions / thoughts. Mankind has committed atrocities to fellow human beings that is evil personified. And as already been acknowedged -- has Also done / accomplished exceedingly Wonderful things.
And all of this is why we need a Savior -- because God in his infinite knowledge knew from the beginning that Adam and Eve would sin and contaminate the rest of the world. He provided us with the One and Only Savior. All every person needs to do is Accept God's plan for our salvation. But He Also knows that many people Won't. And many people want to help God's Way , which is Not needed. None of our 'good' works will help any. The blood of Christ on the cross is sufficient. And we need to accept That.
@Dave L. -- everyone Does need to be in God's Word to see what has and will happen.
It does not matter What the papacy teaches -- they do not follow God's Word. They add to it.
Actually 'free will' is a Biblical concept . We are not puppets -- God Does know everything each person is going to do -- but He doesn't Make us do anything. It Also means that those who God already knows will be saved, we don't know who those people are -- they Will accept Jesus Christ as their personal Savior while here on earth. It might not be until they are dying. But they Will accept Him. And only God knows who Won't accept His plan For our salvation.
And the Dispensationalist end-times 'movement was Not created to deceive Protestants. John Darby brought to attention parts of the Bible that hadn't been looked at very much.
Everyone Does need to be in God's Word Now more than ever. Don't know what you mean by 'the right books'.
Pentecostalism tends to missapply God's Word and the Pope /RCC adjusts and adds to God's Word. They have their own set of rules. A lot of which is not in the Bible.
The sending a strong delusion after the Rapture of the church applies to those who have heard salvation and rejected it. They will not have a second chance. Someone will make up some story about what happened to 'all those people who've disappeared' and most everyone Will believe it.
You mean the right "Book"? What other books would you include? Maybe The Book of Enoch? I consider that to be a Holy Book as it clearly contains the Word of God.Most today are being swept up in false end times prophecy created by the Papacy (Antichrist according to the Reformers). They instead look for a future Antichrist. If you knew what the Papacy teaches, and then look for bits and pieces of it in your own churches, you would see he remains the man of sin seated in the temple of God until God reveals and destroys him at the end. Did you know "free will" is a papal doctrine? Also, the Dispensationalist end-times movement of the 1800s created by the Jesuits to deceive protestants? Pentecostalism exalts itself over the word of God just as the Pope does? Christians need to hit the right books now more than ever.
The 66 books of the bible align with each other. Anything else does not align with them. Be safe, faith comes from hearing the word of God, not the Pope or anyone else.You mean the right "Book"? What other books would you include? Maybe The Book of Enoch? I consider that to be a Holy Book as it clearly contains the Word of God.
Luther launched the Reformation. Part of his attack was on the Catholic doctrine of free will. His book called "the Bondage of the will." = Free will is a doctrine of Antichrist held by most churches today. Granted the papacy is Antichrist. Free will = salvation by works.
The Jesuits launched an attack on the protestants which became today's Dispensationalism. Dispensationalists added Pentecostalism's Margaret MacDonald's rapture prophecy to it. But Catholics and Pentecostals replace God's word with extra-biblical revelations (so-called).
This alone shows the extent the Antichrist remains seated in the temple of God in our times.
Have you ever questioned your beliefs and where they came from? Did you know the future Antichrst doctrine came from the Jesuits to divert protestants away from discovering the Papacy is in fact the Antichrist?There's a difference between there having been and continue to Be people teaching 'anti-Christ' and the Antichrist who comes to be half-way through the 7 yrs Tribulation in the future. There's been a lot of speculation as to who the Antichrist will be as well as other people who are brought up in Revelation.
It depends on how a person views 'free will'. By nature -- 'we' are people of habit / routine. Myself, as a young teenager, I grew up in a good , Bible-teaching church -- I knew the Holy Spirit was convicting me of my sins and that I needed to accept Him as my personal Savior. It was a huge church and I was afraid to walk down that aisle to the front because we always sat in a side balcony. In order to Get to walking down that aisle, ya had to go to the side stairs and then to the auditorium and then to the front. I was afraid no one would see me coming and church would be over long before I got to the front. So -- I kept on resisting for a long time. And then Finally, the pastor assured us that we could talk to God anytime , anywhere and accept Him as personal Savior. So -- I did That and Then I knew I was saved. I could feel the inner peace in my heart that had not been there before. So -- therefore -- I realized that I was one of God's 'elect' and it was just a matter of time before I did accept His salvation. It had nothing to do with good works. Now -- lots of churches Teach a good works salvation. via church membership, baptism, etc. but none of those are part Of salvation. And, lots of people assume that when a person goes to church most of the time, that chances are they Are born again or Why would they be going? Well -- probably because , to them, it's their 'good work' and they will be okay in the end. But that's not what Scripture teaches.
Dispensationalists simply have various parts of Scritpure in various catagories. : law, grace -- I looked it up and there are up to 7 dispensations in the Bible. Nothing unScriptural about it.
Churches that teach anything but the fact of Jesus Christ being the Son of God and salvation through Him, alone. No Works included -- that is anti-Christ teaching. Teaching Against Jesus Christ -- that He was merely another prophet rather than The Son of God.
There Are those who believe that the person who Becomes the Antichrist is already alive -- that's always possible. But he is definitely Not in power now. The born again believers will be up and out before that takes place. And, yes, that is the difference between the pre and mid trib rapture thoughts. Lots also go for the post position. I'm definitely a pre -trib rapture person. And it's Also true that He will come to get us when He comes. We need to be ready.
OMGoodness! Somebody's been smokin somethin!
If you are referring to me. In the "Spirit" of gentle kindness; Your Mockery has been well "Documented" in The Annals of Time, under the heading "Somebody's been smokin somethin!" inwhich, I do, also have, such a category in my records and thoughts and activies in my "portfolio" that The Angels of GOD are always giving a report of all my wicked ways, unknown and known. So I do understand, your response, to the "strange dialect" that procedes from the depths of my being. You reminded me by your replying in such a form of mockery, my soul rejoice and The Oil of GOD, my Father, pour into my soul and I heard these words:
New American Standard 1977
But others were mocking and saying, “They are full of sweet wine.”
[ If only, you KNEW! ] When was The Last Time you SHOUTED! and The Host of Heaven Surrounded YOU! and The Oil Of GOD poured on YOu, Like "Rich Honey"! from the Crown of Your Head, to the Soles of your Feet!
Now "Mock" me again! Because I want GOD my Father, to pour a "BUCKET" of This, on Top of your Head, that your soul would melt like rich cream and you, just sit there, "Speechless" in total bliss.
1When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other Languages a as the Spirit enabled them.
5Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. 6When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. 7Utterly amazed, they asked: “Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? 8Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language? 9Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, b 10Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome 11(both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!” 12Amazed and perplexed, they asked one another, “What does this mean?”
13Some, however, made mockery of them and said, “They have had too much wine.”
Peter Addresses the Crowd
14Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd: “Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. 15These people are not drunk, as you suppose. It’s only nine in the morning! 16No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
17“ ‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.
For over 40 years in the power of The "Holy GHost" he have taken me from "Glory to Glory" and every round, the Glory has gotten Richer and Richer beyond The expectation of the expectation that was before! The Riches of GOD! continues to Grow! Beyond this old Decrepit, Decaying World that began to Die The Day Adam and Eve Dis=obeyed GOD! And ever since then, This world has been curse, swept, rebooted and still dying a slow and painful death. Final Destination, "The Lake of Fire"! I said: FINAL DESTINATION!
[and God showed John a 'snap shot' that will come to be as the Potter Design it to be]
Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”
He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life. Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children. But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
Now This is The Court I take my stand, Because, My Father said: These words are trustworthy and true!
You can Proclaim I am smoking drugs all you want too for your "Mockery has been recorded" and well Domunented with a host witnesses that can stand by your side that cannot be Erased. And i will not deny, I spoke those words without being guided by The Holy Spirit of GOD.
"God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;"
Oh...Did you think I was talking about you? I wonder why.If you are referring to me. In the "Spirit" of gentle kindness; Your Mockery has been well "Documented" in The Annals of Time, under the heading "Somebody's been smokin somethin!" inwhich, I do, also have, such a category in my records and thoughts and activies in my "portfolio" that The Angels of GOD are always giving a report of all my wicked ways, unknown and known. So I do understand, your response, to the "strange dialect" that procedes from the depths of my being. You reminded me by your replying in such a form of mockery, my soul rejoice and The Oil of GOD, my Father, pour into my soul and I heard these words:
New American Standard 1977
But others were mocking and saying, “They are full of sweet wine.”
[ If only, you KNEW! ] When was The Last Time you SHOUTED! and The Host of Heaven Surrounded YOU! and The Oil Of GOD poured on YOu, Like "Rich Honey"! from the Crown of Your Head, to the Soles of your Feet!
Now "Mock" me again! Because I want GOD my Father, to pour a "BUCKET" of This, on Top of your Head, that your soul would melt like rich cream and you, just sit there, "Speechless" in total bliss.
1When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other Languages a as the Spirit enabled them.
5Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. 6When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. 7Utterly amazed, they asked: “Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? 8Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language? 9Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, b 10Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome 11(both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!” 12Amazed and perplexed, they asked one another, “What does this mean?”
13Some, however, made mockery of them and said, “They have had too much wine.”
Peter Addresses the Crowd
14Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd: “Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. 15These people are not drunk, as you suppose. It’s only nine in the morning! 16No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
17“ ‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.
For over 40 years in the power of The "Holy GHost" he have taken me from "Glory to Glory" and every round, the Glory has gotten Richer and Richer beyond The expectation of the expectation that was before! The Riches of GOD! continues to Grow! Beyond this old Decrepit, Decaying World that began to Die The Day Adam and Eve Dis=obeyed GOD! And ever since then, This world has been curse, swept, rebooted and still dying a slow and painful death. Final Destination, "The Lake of Fire"! I said: FINAL DESTINATION!
[and God showed John a 'snap shot' that will come to be as the Potter Design it to be]
Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”
He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life. Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children. But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
Now This is The Court I take my stand, Because, My Father said: These words are trustworthy and true!
You can Proclaim I am smoking drugs all you want too for your "Mockery has been recorded" and well Domunented with a host of witnesses that can stand by your side that cannot be Erased. And i will not deny, I spoke those words without being guided by The Holy Spirit of GOD.
"God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;"
I thought that most people read "translations" or paraphases" of the "Word of GOD" ? I do know, a good "translation" of "The Original Copied Text" will explain this to you in the front of "The Book"! To inform what you are reading.You mean the right "Book"? What other books would you include? Maybe The Book of Enoch? I consider that to be a Holy Book as it clearly contains the Word of God.
This is why, feel free to "mock"Oh...Did you think I was talking about you? I wonder why.