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Why does God send people to hell?

The Book Of Revelation has the following in The Begining of It.
This is the revelation of JESUS CHRIST [His revealing of the divine mysteries. God gave to Him TO DISCLOSE AND MAKE KNOWN CERTAIN THINGS WHICH MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS IN THEIR ENTIRETY.
The above show that The Book Of Revelation was for THAT TIME PERIOD! Yet It is still taken out of place and applied to TODAY! Why ?

Are We bond servants? If Those Things took place in THEIR TIME; Then why are [people Today still forcing It into This Age?
There was One Writer who made a very large sum of money writing A Book on Revelation; IT was much in Error!
I have given some thought to writing on That Book.
What I have written here is to bring into more understanding that The Book Of Revelation should be keep for The Time in which It was written for.

DeepSeeker
 
Deep Seeker said:
The Book Of Revelation has the following in The Begining of It.
This is the revelation of JESUS CHRIST [His revealing of the divine mysteries. God gave to Him TO DISCLOSE AND MAKE KNOWN CERTAIN THINGS WHICH MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS IN THEIR ENTIRETY.
The above show that The Book Of Revelation was for THAT TIME PERIOD! Yet It is still taken out of place and applied to TODAY! Why ?

Are We bond servants? If Those Things took place in THEIR TIME; Then why are [people Today still forcing It into This Age?
There was One Writer who made a very large sum of money writing A Book on Revelation; IT was much in Error!
I have given some thought to writing on That Book.
What I have written here is to bring into more understanding that The Book Of Revelation should be keep for The Time in which It was written for.

DeepSeeker
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God's revelation "let there be" all generations

Books an oral tradition of dying mankind

Chapter biblical tradition

The goal of the father of lies of taking away the warning not to add to the book of prophecy or called book of life the perfect is sealed with 7 seals till the ends of time.

When he says this book in must be in respect to all the chapters. Not the last chapter alone which need the rest of the Bible to understand the meaning of the metaphors used in; parables which without Christ spoke not even once

Revelation 22:18-19;For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:;And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Can we add to sola scriptura? Can we take away from it?
 
What does The Introduction of Revelation say ? ?

THIS IS THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST [HIS unveiling of the divine mysteries. God gave IT to HIM to make known to HIS BOND SERVANTS certain Things WHICH MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS IN THEIR ENTIRETY.

With That being stated in The Begining of The Book Of Revelation; how do people Today keep taking This Book out of Its place; and to whom IT was written to ?

Yet people still do exactly That ! Then He said: "John to The Seven Churches that are in Asia: " Yet people keep taking what was Witten TO THEM, and apply It to Today Age! !

"You reap what You sew"

Rev. 22:19 QAnd if ANTONE CANCELS OR TAKES AWAY FROM THE STATEMENTS OF THE BOOK OF THESE PROPHECY: God will Take away from him his share IN THE TREE OF LIFE AND IN THE CITY OF HOLLINESS, WHICH ARE DESCRIBED AND PROMISED IN THIS BOOK.

Are You One of Them? IF You proclaim You are, then take heed!
To many use THIS BOOK of REVELATION out of ITS CONTEXT !

DeepSeeker
 
Deep Seeker said:
The Book Of Revelation....
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The Book of Revelation wasn't in the canon until the Synod of Hippo Regius in North Africa (A.D. 393);
And it shouldn't be in the canon now.
God wouldn't have taken almost 400 years to make up his mind.
 
Rhema said:
The Book of Revelation wasn't in the canon until the Synod of Hippo Regius in North Africa (A.D. 393);
And it shouldn't be in the canon now.
God wouldn't have taken almost 400 years to make up his mind.
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Should The Book Of Revelation be thrown out then ??
 
Deep Seeker said:
Should The Book Of Revelation be thrown out then ??
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Can't be thrown out if it was never in to begin with.

(Sorry, this is a bit off point to the thread. Please feel free to send me a PM, or... you can do some deep background study on the net.)
God bless,
Rhema

While I am no longer affiliated with the Church of the East (started in the Parthian Empire by the Apostle Thomas), the book of Revelation was never in their canon. If I HAD to comment, I'd say the Preterist people are correct.
 
Deep Seeker said:
What does The Introduction of Revelation say ? ?

THIS IS THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST [HIS unveiling of the divine mysteries. God gave IT to HIM to make known to HIS BOND SERVANTS certain Things WHICH MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS IN THEIR ENTIRETY.

With That being stated in The Begining of The Book Of Revelation; how do people Today keep taking This Book out of Its place; and to whom IT was written to ?

Yet people still do exactly That ! Then He said: "John to The Seven Churches that are in Asia: " Yet people keep taking what was Witten TO THEM, and apply It to Today Age! !

"You reap what You sew"

Rev. 22:19 QAnd if ANTONE CANCELS OR TAKES AWAY FROM THE STATEMENTS OF THE BOOK OF THESE PROPHECY: God will Take away from him his share IN THE TREE OF LIFE AND IN THE CITY OF HOLLINESS, WHICH ARE DESCRIBED AND PROMISED IN THIS BOOK.

Are You One of Them? IF You proclaim You are, then take heed!
To many use THIS BOOK of REVELATION out of ITS CONTEXT !

DeepSeeker
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It would appear you are taking away the context of him giving us ears to hear (his understanding)

1Revelation 21 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

The context is the signified understanding of parables .Without parable the signified understanding Christ spoke not .Called hidden manna in 2:17

Revelation 11 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

The key learns how to rightly divide or interpret the parables which without Christ spoke not. Not even once
 
My belief is that everyone who has died is in heaven courtyard worshipping the glory from where Jesus is praised. The desperation of the sheep and goats hadn't happened yet
 
Ezra Allen said:
My belief is that everyone who has died is in heaven courtyard worshipping the glory from where Jesus is praised. The desperation of the sheep and goats hadn't happened yet
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What about the rich man in Lk 16 who died and lifted up his eyes in hell torment ?

19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

27 ;Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28 ;For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
 
Rhema said:
The Book of Revelation wasn't in the canon until the Synod of Hippo Regius in North Africa (A.D. 393);
And it shouldn't be in the canon now.
God wouldn't have taken almost 400 years to make up his mind.
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The bible was only officially finalised at around that time. Many books were disputed. A long and thorough vetting process was done by the Catholic church before any book was included.

Other books included at around the same time were:

1. Hebrews - 367 AD (Athanasius), 393 AD (Synod of Hippo), 397 AD (Council of Carthage)
2. James - Same as above (367–397 AD)
3. 2 Peter - Included by 4th century (same councils)
4. 2 John and 3 John - Included by late 4th century
5. Jude - Included by 4th century
 
So the Bible is a Catholic book after all. LOL.

And ya'll follow it. : )
 
Christ4Ever said:
Universal is what you mean right? :)
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If you listen to what everybody says they just want to blame everything on the Catholic Church why not with the Bible on there it was Catholic monks that wrote it down. Inspired by Jesus obviously
 
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