What is the Greatest Lie Ever Told?

[Question]

And it doesn't say 'The Trinity took human form', either.

 

[Garee]

Col 2:9 For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,

I would offer.

Yes, the fulness of deity not partial. Emanuel,

Deity meaning. ."God like nature" after a supernatural (without beginning) of Holy Spirit life or end our eternal invisible God. . . our Holy Father not the son of man Jesus a shadow.

 

[Question]

I would offer.

Yes, the fulness of deity not partial. Emanuel,

Deity meaning. ."God like nature" after a supernatural (without beginning) of Holy Spirit life or end our eternal invisible God. . . our Holy Father not the son of man Jesus a shadow.

Jesus wasn't called "Emanuel". God was with him,tho.
Your grasping a straws...

 

[Garee]

Jesus wasn't called "Emanuel". God was with him,tho.
Your grasping a straws...

Jesus the Christ Emanuel. Not Jesus the Son man who demonstrated Emanuel

Satan the spirt of lies makes it all one in the same

Satan who has no spiritual understanding hid in parables is blind to the things of faith the gospel

Yes, with him not the Son of man is him

Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

 

[Question]

Jesus the Christ Emanuel. Not Jesus the Son man who demonstrated Emanuel

Satan the spirt of lies makes it all one in the same

Satan who has no spiritual understanding hid in parables is blind to the things of faith the gospel

Yes, with him not the Son of man is him

Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

 

[Question]

I CANNOT convince you. Maybe the holy spirit will someday.

 

[Rhema]

Jesus was fully God and fully human.

If he was FULLY God, then he absolutely could not sin.

The human nature of Jesus was absolutely able to sin.

Then he could not be God.

This is not rocket science, BAC.
(Actually it's cognitive dissonance.)

So then if, as most Christians submit, men sin because of possessing a sin nature, did Jesus then have a sin nature?

That isn't a doctrine in any church I have attended.

And that should tell you something.

Conflicting natures to be sure.

More like a conflicting doctrine that makes no sense in this regard.

But by all means, let us ignore the cognitive dissonance and just proclaim that doctrine shouldn't make sense.

Rhema
(And I have no doubt that Jesus was tempted.)

 

[Rhema]

Still doesn't say that.

Col 2:9- For the entire fullness of God’s nature dwells bodily in Christ.

The Christian Standard Bible, by Holman.
I don't run into that often.

I was surprised at the use of the word "nature" for πλήρωμα, and yet one finds this entry in the Liddell Scott Lexicon -

A. 6. fullness, full and perfect nature, (Rom.11.12; Eph. 3.19, 4.13, cf. Ep.Col.1.19); the aggregate of properties which constitute the complete nature of a thing.

Of course one then wonders what "nature" is to mean. Character? Perhaps even personality?

All of God that could "fit" into a human?
(Which, btw, is my personal view.)

Thanks,
Rhema

 

[Question]

The Christian Standard Bible, by Holman.
I don't run into that often.

I was surprised at the use of the word "nature" for πλήρωμα, and yet one finds this entry in the Liddell Scott Lexicon -

A. 6. fullness, full and perfect nature, (Rom.11.12; Eph. 3.19, 4.13, cf. Ep.Col.1.19); the aggregate of properties which constitute the complete nature of a thing.

Of course one then wonders what "nature" is to mean. Character? Perhaps even personality?

All of God that could "fit" into a human?
(Which, btw, is my personal view.)

Thanks,
Rhema

Heb 1 says it al!

 

[Rhema]

Heb 1 says it al!

(Except for some translation issues with αιωνας.)

 

[B-A-C]

Then he could not be God.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Thanks for sharing yours.

 

[B-A-C]

Heb 1 says it al!

Heb 1:8 But of the Son He says, "YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM.

Maybe not "all" but, the Father calls the Son God here.

 

[Garee]

If he was FULLY God, then he absolutely could not sin.

Our Faithful "Let there be" Eternal Holy Father is not a man as us and neither is there any fleshly interpreter set between eternal God and dying mankind the temporal seen as an umpire ( Job 9:32-33)

The fulness of God who is not a dying Jewish King of kings .

Christ as the Holy Father worked in Jesus the Son of man to both reveal the understanding of Abba. And empower to do. (Philippian 2:13)

The spiritual food the disciples knew not of at first the meat (power) to both (the key) hear Christ's will and finish to the glory of Emanuel

John 4:33-35Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat?;Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

 

[Question]

Our Faithful "Let there be" Eternal Holy Father is not a man as us and neither is there any fleshly interpreter set between eternal God and dying mankind the temporal seen as an umpire ( Job 9:32-33)

The fulness of God who is not a dying Jewish King of kings .

Christ as the Holy Father worked in Jesus the Son of man to both reveal the understanding of Abba. And empower to do. (Philippian 2:13)

The spiritual food the disciples knew not of at first the meat (power) to both (the key) hear Christ's will and finish to the glory of Emanuel

John 4:33-35Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat?;Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

Christ as the holy father??????????????????????????????????????????????????
That's as antichrist as you can GET!

 

[Garee]

Christ as the holy father??????????????????????????????????????????????????
That's as antichrist as you can GET!

LOL
Holy laughter?

Words have meaning applied. Christ "the anointing or teaching" Holy Spirit.

The Son of man Jesus prophesied. . not as I will Father the teaching Holy Spirit, but you are alone the one with powerful living words

He lovingly warns of those who say we need the anointing or teaching of dying mankind. Antichrists (plural) another teaching authority other than (sola scriptura) False apostles bringing false prophecy. . . . . oral traditions of dying mankind

1 John 2:26These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.;But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

In that way Jesus the Son of man who would never disobey the father and call men Holy Father on earth

Seeing he is not ashamed to call us brothers and sisters we should pass it on

Mark 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Mark 3:35
Mark 6: not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

Romans 1:6-8Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus (savior) Christ (anointer) To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, the (0ne and only) Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Question]

Romans 1:6-8Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus (savior) Christ (anointer) To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, the (0ne and only) Lord Jesus Christ.

Rom 1:7- To all who are in Rome, loved by God, called as saints.
Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Garee]

Rom 1:7- To all who are in Rome, loved by God, called as saints.
Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Yes, and is out of place it should be erased to make any gospel sense.

The Lord Jesus, like Joshua meaning savor. Christ meaning anointing teaching, Holy Father The dynamic dual

It would seem a mistranslation the word and was added to give the illusion of a trinity with the Queen mother of heaven

The next verse Roman 1:8 testifies to the new- born again faith that comes by the anointing power of the Father Christ's (anointing power)

Roman 1:8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith (Christ anointing power working in him) is spoken of throughout the whole world.

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[Rhema]

That's as antichrist as you can GET!

Sometimes I think even @Garee doesn't understand what he posts.

 

[Rhema]

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Thanks for sharing yours.

It's not a question of opinion, @B-A-C, but one of the most fundamental characteristics of the DEFINITION of God.

I feel very sorry for people who just cannot fathom Reductio ad absurdum, and would rather cling to religious fantasy by mere dismissal of logical proofs as "opinion" while embracing the "ineffable" as actual reason.

But NO. No one is entitled to an opinion. One is entitled to an informed opinion, and the rejection of becoming informed just means that one worships ignorance.

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Yes, and is out of place it should be erased to make any gospel sense.

Of course you would erase words that are ACTUALLY WRITTEN in scripture.

(Romans 1:7 Greek)

πασιν τοις ουσιν εν ρωμη αγαπητοις θεου κλητοις αγιοις χαρις υμιν και ειρηνη απο θεου πατρος ημων και (AND) κυριου (OF THE LORD) ιησου (JESUS) χριστου (CHRIST)​

Now were I moderator, you would be banned instantly for this absolute heresy of changing the written words.

Words should be erased to conform to your fiction?
You have DEFILED your own "Sola Scriptura."
SHAME. For utter SHAME.

Rhema

And you want to know why I have you on ignore.
Don't even bother replying, there is NO justification for this sin of blasphemy other than repentance.
But you won't repent of this. (Go ahead, prove me right.)