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What if you die tonight

Discussion in 'Seeking Jesus' started by Fragrant Grace, Jan 10, 2015.

  1. God sustains us throughout our lifetime in order for us to fulfill our soul's purpose for this life. Our souls incarnate through many generations of individual bodies. When God takes our life, it means our soul has fulfilled its purpose for this incarnation. Therefore death is a good thing, provided it comes from God.
     
  2. So you believe in re-incarnation? We just go through life over and over again?

    Heb 9:27; And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment,
     
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  3. Gibberish. What fiction book do you get this from? Not biblical.
     
  4. Death always comes from God. Death should not be feared as God should not be feared. Death serves God afterall. Death is only like a door, it is a sort of baptism from the life you lived on earth to the life you will live with God. That is, if you have Love. Without Love, there is nothing. Love is a word we misunderstand. God is Love. When you love, deeply in your heart, God is present.

    It is the one thing Satan rejected, Love aka God. It is the only reason Satan can never reenter heaven.

    Without Love, your faith is like a gong clanging in the wind
     
  5. I hate to tell you this, there is no reincarnation. That is Hindu thinking.

    I realize with so many various cultures and characters who will claim all sorts of things. Finding the Truth may seem difficult.

    There is a difference in Christianity that all other religions fail. Jesus is real. His being on the planet was witnessed by many. And the proof of the pudding, Jesus being God. Is alive today. You dont need to be a Christian to experience Jesus. But if you are sincere in you heart, He will come to you. You will have no doubts in your mind when He comes.
     
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  6. @Bill good to see on here again been to long
     
  7. Thank you
     
  8. Ive been busy talking with many in the New Age movement
     
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  9. They surely need the Word Brother!
    I'll be praying for your success.

    With the Love of Christ Jesus.
    YBIC
    Nick
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  10. Success is a matter of planting seeds. Waiting to see seeds become questions
     
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  11. 'Then cometh the end,
    when He shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,
    even the Father;
    when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
    For He must reign,
    till He hath put all enemies under His feet.
    The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.'

    (1 Cor. 15:24)

    Hello @Torchbearer33,

    The Bible makes it clear that death is not 'a good thing'. It is called 'the last enemy'. because it will be the last enemy to be destroyed at the judgement of the last day.

    The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, gives resurrection life to those who believe in the efficacy of the sacrificial work of His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, on their behalf. For in doing so they are acknowledging that He died in their place, bearing the penalty for their sin upon Himself, in order that they may live.

    'But these are written,
    that ye might believe
    that Jesus is the Christ,
    the Son of God;
    and that believing
    ye might have life
    through His name.'

    (John 20:31)

    'If we receive the witness of men,
    the witness of God is greater:
    for this is the witness of God
    which He hath testified of His Son.
    He that believeth on the Son of God
    hath the witness in Himself:

    he that believeth not God
    hath made Him a liar;
    because he believeth not
    the record that God gave of His Son.
    And this is the record,
    that God hath given to us eternal life,
    and this life is in His Son.
    He that hath the Son
    hath life;
    and he that hath not the Son of God
    hath not life.

    (1 John 5:9-12)

    May God's will be done in you,
    for His Name and glory's sake.
    In Christ Jesus
    Chris
     
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  12. #52 Torchbearer33, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:34 AM
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2018 at 11:00 AM
    -Yes, I do believe in reincarnation. It's not a good thing. Christ gives us the opportunity for release from the endless cycle of death and rebirth. As does Buddha. It may be that when a person dies as a Christian, it means they've reached their last incarnation.

    -There's a difference between your soul and your body. The person you are--your name, height, weight, etc--is not your soul. Obviously, the body will die once, as God says, and that personality will face judgement. But the soul is immortal. It will leave the body when it dies, and go on somewhere else, being slightly more evolved as a result of having passed through you. All soul is the same. From the same source. And it will all connect back together, in the end. It takes many different paths to get there. Christ may be the final doorway at the end that leads back to the LORD.

    -We are all in the body of Christ. Christ never dies. So how can we?

    -..."men to die once..." ...what about women? Is this one of those cases where the word "men" is also supposed to stand for women, as well? God is usually pretty specific when it comes to the rules as they apply for men and women respectively, isn't he?

    -Do you think there is a difference between a person who is raised as a Christian, and a person who is a born again Christian? I do. "Born again." God doesn't mince His words. His words aren't allegories or parables. They're true, it's just that often, there is no word in the English language capable of conceptualizing what He's talking about. So, how can a person be "born again" without having already lived and died once?

    I assume you're talking about the doctrine of reincarnation? And by 'fiction book,' you mean the revelatory works of Hinduism and Buddhism? For an adherent of one religion's holy book to call another religion's holy book a 'work of fiction' is a case of 'the pot calling the kettle black.' Religious people should be the first to understand the nature of revelation and accept to accept the testimonies and beliefs of other religions. Not to do so reveals that you don't really understand where scripture comes from. There is one God, many names. Omnipotent, omnipresent. God speaks to everyone, all peoples. Do you believe that God is the kind of Guy to trick billions of innocent people into an erroneous set of beliefs so that he can have the fun of burning them eternally in hell?


    I agree that the most important thing is the way you treat people: with love, or without. More important than faith. You don't necessarily have to be a Christian to be allowed into heaven. There are many rooms in God's mansion. It comes down to how you treat people.

    Buddha was also real. As was Moses. And Mohammed. These other religions don't fail in this account. If they weren't real, their religions never would have survived.
    In fact, as the case may be, Christians are probably the hardest pressed of them all to prove Jesus ever even existed. The fact that there are so many other myths that existed well before Jesus that contain all the exact same elements of the Christ drama makes it seem as though somebody took them all and put them together and made Jesus Christ up. But he most certainly did live, die, and was resurrected, as the New Testament says. The thing is, though, unlike the other prophets, after Jesus rose into heaven, all trace of his earthly incarnation vanished. His facticity was removed from history, leaving only the effects of his legacy, in order that his body may be a gateway for the holy spirit to flow through to the rest of us.

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  13. -If death is the last, then who are the other enemies? The devil is presumably one. Any others? And when He says "death," does He mean His death, or our deaths? Or does he mean 'Death,' as in, like, the grim reaper? OR, is 'death,' as referred to in the Bible, a combination of all these meanings?

    Seeing as though death will be the last enemy defeated, and therefore the devil will be defeated before death is, could it be that God will use death to defeat the devil, and that's why we have to die in the first place? All the accumulated individual deaths that we humans have may provide the weapon God needs to defeat the devil. Therefore death is a good thing.


    -Everything that God does is good. God isn't capable of doing anything bad. God is the one who brings death. Therefore death is good.

    -Was it Jesus who taught us to love our enemies as we do each other? How can you love something that isn't good? There must be something good that our enemies have that is lovable in them. And everything that is good comes from God.

    -When you die, you get to go heaven. How could that be a bad thing?
     
  14. @Torchbearer33 -- Jesus taught that we are to love the Lord your God with all your, heart, soul and mind and then our neighbor as ourselves. And we are to forgive others as God has forgiven us. "Hate" has no place in the Christians / believer's life. We are to realize that our 'enemy' has a soul that need God's salvation.

    Regarding # 52 -- for one thing -- the born-again believer has the Holy Spirit indwelling them. That will be apparent in that they will exhibit the fruits of the Spirit. Jesus Christ told His disciples that He must ascend back up to His Father in heaven So that the Holy Spirit can come to each believer. Up until then -- Jesus Christ could only be one place at a time. So it would be to their advantage for the Holy Spirit to come. Which He did on the day of Pentecost in Acts.

    Romans -- For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. But the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ the Lord.

    Regarding being born Again. We're all born physically but with a sinful nature -- book of John talks about the need for the 2nd birth -- born-again Spiritually. After living This life -- there is physical death and then eternity. Being born Spiritually enables a person to be immediately with Christ upon their death or the rapture taking place.

    The devil / satan / will be defeated and put in the lake of fire and brimstone for all eternity.

    Death is the transition from This life to eternity. For the born-again believer it will be with Christ. For non-believers it will be a transition to hell and then the lake of fire and brimstone.

    I'm thinking that one of the 'things' that brings up the possibility of previous lives of people are programs that feature kids / adults who have 'memories' of previous lives. Sometimes these 'memories' are brought up through hypnosis. and some people dream very vividly. I used to do that -- I'd have read books, watched movies, etc. and all of a sudden I'd have very vivid dreams about all of them mixed together. And children have very vivid imaginations, they like to please adults. And people who in to yoga are taught to relax completely -- free their minds -- but an Empty mind is never 'empty' for long. "Other" thoughts can enter in and mess a person up.

    Hypnosis is fine for certain things -- but it can be dangerous as well. People who've experienced horrible accidents / war-time problems can sometimes be helped to Forget the horrible or to Remember so they can deal with / resolve problems.
     
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