What does Jesus mean when he says

Puddleglum · Jan 19, 2013

David777 said:
Matthew 5

21 “You have heard that the ancients were told,
‘You shall not commit murder’ and
‘Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.’

22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his
brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says
to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before
the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool (or idiot),’
shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.

Puddlegum, you said,

"A mate of mine is like this type of christian, and i say get your self
together man and stop smoking dope drinking like an idiot."

Well Puddlegum you have just broken the sixth
commandment, you called your friend "an idiot".

So you and your friend are both in the same
predicament, living by the flesh and not by the
spirit. You are a commandment breaker!

Sorry puddlegum for being harsh but you proclaim
the ten commandments and break them in the same
breath.

Not true at all 777 we are not under the Law but Grace.
And as for calling a friend or one you love an idiot, due to the truth of it, is because it is a fact that no one can deny.
So i should not try to encourage my fellow man 777 ?
Am i my brothers keeper 777 ?
Why should i encourage people to come to Christ 777 and become people of Christ, not just miserable sheep without a shepherd, that are totally lost to Sin.
Maybe it would be better if i could give my old mate some more drugs and encourage him to drink and smoke more and tell him he is going to Heaven by my authority and yours 777. he has his eye on a nice 18 yo girl to, is that OK, to. or am i being stupid to say grow up, to yourself man. to him.

David777 · Jan 20, 2013

Puddleglum said:
Not true at all 777 we are not under the Law but Grace.

Well puddlegum I have to inform you they you are
mistaken in your understanding of the role of the
ten commandments in SDA. Here let me quote two
articles, one from the official website of SDA and the
other from an SDA educational forum.

20. Sabbath:
...The fourth commandment of God's unchangeable law
requires the observance of this seventh-day Sabbath as
the day of rest, worship, and ministry in harmony with the
teaching and practice of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath...
(SDA official website).

It is an unchangeable law, and it is doctrine. Now read the second
quote and this fourth law will become much clearer.

Scripture. Sabbath reform goes hand in hand with revivals.
Sabbath keeping had faded from the practice of the Jews
when they were slaves in Egypt. God impressed upon them
the importance of keeping the Sabbath holy by stating and
restating the ten commandments
(Ex. 20:8-1 ; Ex. 23:12 ; Deut. 5:12-15).
The death penalty was ordered by God for desecrating the Sabbath
(Ex. 31:14-17; Num. 15:32-36)
thus emphasizing the fact that desecration of the Sabbath results in
alienation between God and man. Persisted in this behavior, ends in eternal death!
(054-89 Institute for Christian Teaching, SDA)

So puddlegum, if you break the sabbath law you die,
whether you are aware or not of the doctrine of the sda.
You are under the law whether you agree or not.
Do you really believe that you are not under the sabbath law?
Is the sabbath not hallowed by God Himself, did the 4th
not have a lustre when E.G.White saw it in the heavenly
tabernacle. I am not sda puddlegum but even I observe that
it is a law with a penalty in sda doctrine. There is no Grace
by God concerning the greatest of the commandments, the
hallowed eternal commandment. It is written, you break it you die!

Puddleglum · Jan 21, 2013

David777 said:
Well puddlegum I have to inform you they you are
mistaken in your understanding of the role of the
ten commandments in SDA. Here let me quote two
articles, one from the official website of SDA and the
other from an SDA educational forum.

20. Sabbath:
...The fourth commandment of God's unchangeable law
requires the observance of this seventh-day Sabbath as
the day of rest, worship, and ministry in harmony with the
teaching and practice of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath...
(SDA official website).

It is an unchangeable law, and it is doctrine. Now read the second
quote and this fourth law will become much clearer.

Scripture. Sabbath reform goes hand in hand with revivals.
Sabbath keeping had faded from the practice of the Jews
when they were slaves in Egypt. God impressed upon them
the importance of keeping the Sabbath holy by stating and
restating the ten commandments
(Ex. 20:8-1 ; Ex. 23:12 ; Deut. 5:12-15).
The death penalty was ordered by God for desecrating the Sabbath
(Ex. 31:14-17; Num. 15:32-36)
thus emphasizing the fact that desecration of the Sabbath results in
alienation between God and man. Persisted in this behavior, ends in eternal death!
(054-89 Institute for Christian Teaching, SDA)

So puddlegum, if you break the sabbath law you die,
whether you are aware or not of the doctrine of the sda.
You are under the law whether you agree or not.
Do you really believe that you are not under the sabbath law?
Is the sabbath not hallowed by God Himself, did the 4th
not have a lustre when E.G.White saw it in the heavenly
tabernacle. I am not sda puddlegum but even I observe that
it is a law with a penalty in sda doctrine. There is no Grace
by God concerning the greatest of the commandments, the
hallowed eternal commandment. It is written, you break it you die!

I thought you were under Grace not the Law 777.
And i thought i was under Grace, not the Law, as being a Christian.
You come across to me, to be just running around flat out in big circles 777.
I give due respect to the commandments as a truth and i do not dishonour them. and i don't carry them around my neck like a Jew would.

B-A-C · Jan 22, 2013

David777 said:
Well puddlegum I have to inform you they you are
mistaken in your understanding of the role of the
ten commandments in SDA. Here let me quote two
articles, one from the official website of SDA and the
other from an SDA educational forum.

------------------------------------------------------------
So puddlegum, if you break the sabbath law you die,
whether you are aware or not of the doctrine of the sda.
You are under the law whether you agree or not.
Do you really believe that you are not under the sabbath law?
Is the sabbath not hallowed by God Himself, did the 4th
not have a lustre when E.G.White saw it in the heavenly
tabernacle. I am not sda puddlegum but even I observe that
it is a law with a penalty in sda doctrine. There is no Grace
by God concerning the greatest of the commandments, the
hallowed eternal commandment. It is written, you break it you die!

I am curious.. do you believe the things below?

Our sins will ultimately be placed on Satan.1
Jesus is Michael the Archangel.
Worship must be done on Saturday (the Sabbath).
On October 22, 1844 Jesus entered the second and last phase of his atoning work.
Investigative Judgment - the fate of all people will be decided based upon this event in the future.
The dead do not exist anymore -- soul sleep.
The wicked are annihilated.
Ellen G. White, the "founder" of Seventh Day Adventism, was a messenger from God gifted with the spirit of prophecy.
There is a sanctuary in heaven where Jesus carries out his mediatorial work.

Also do you deny any of the following? My understanding is that the SDA...

Denies the doctrine of predestination
Denies baptism by sprinkling
Denies infant baptism.
Denies the immortality of the soul.
Denies the eternality of hell fire.
Denies any use of alcohol (as a drink) or tobacco.

Puddleglum · Jan 25, 2013

I believe the Catholic Church position on this is correct .

David777 · Jan 28, 2013

Puddleglum said:
I thought you were under Grace not the Law 777.
And i thought i was under Grace, not the Law, as being a Christian.
You come across to me, to be just running around flat out in big circles 777.
I give due respect to the commandments as a truth and i do not dishonour them. and i don't carry them around my neck like a Jew would.

Hello puddlegum.

A law by definition means that disobedience results in a penalty.

If you are under Grace then sabbath observance is not a law?

If sabbath observance is not a law then there is no penalty?

Why honor the sabbath?

What happens if you do not observe it?

eldon · Jan 28, 2013

David777 said:
Hello puddlegum.
A law by definition means that disobedience results in a penalty.
If you are under Grace then sabbath observance is not a law?
If sabbath observance is not a law then there is no penalty?
Why honor the sabbath?
What happens if you do not observe it?

Well out of the blue one day the Lord told me don't buy or sell, i was about to walk into a store. it was a friday after the sun went down.
Having spoken to a number of other people who are genuine Christians, they have been under conviction to keep the sabbath recently as well.
for one it is saturday, for another it is any day of the week.
One man said to me when he observes it he finds it easier to resist temptation during the week.
I didn't keep the sabbath one weekend and the Lord told me "you did not keep the sabbath" at sundown on saturday.
and yes i'm talking about a real jewish sabbath. i'm from the tribe of Dan btw, and called to be whatever God needs me to be, and that includes prophecy.. though incidentally the only prophecy i've gotten from the Lord, i can't tell anyone. it was for my ears only. but get ready for war, and i may have gotten a date on that. heck, get ready for hyper inflation tomorrow, that's how quick this ship is going down.

anyway,
the penalty for not observing the sabbath, or telling someone something they aren't supposed to know, or burdening someone with information, or witholding correction depends on the details.

so while i am under many laws..
its better to just ask, which laws can we break?
and what (was) is the intent of those laws?

papajim · Jan 31, 2013

Hello Jiggyfly and David, it's been a while since we last talked. As you know we live in a world of wickedness and lawlessness. There is greed, strife, hatred, selfishness, murder, violence, adultry, liars, coveters, and idolaters everywhere. We can't send our children to school anymore without fear. We live on a planet that does not believe in law, we aso live in a world without Christ and my belief is, it is going to get worse. The law was never meant to save us only to point out what sin is. Righteousness can only come by faith. "we are saved by grace through faith" Only faith in Jesus Christ can save us not in our sins but seperate us from them as far from the east is to the west. It is true that Jesus has already seperated us from all unrighteousness so that the law (ten commandments) has no more jurisdiction over us, but we RECIEVE this through faith. Whatever is not of faith is sin. If I say I am in Christ and I commit adultry I am a liar for there is no adultry in Christ, but the law is there to point out the sin which says "thou shalt not commit adultry" to drive me back to Christ. I first have to seperate myself from Christ to sin. The bible says "where there is no sin there is no law, then to reverse that, where there is sin there is law. The only way to overcome all sin is to put Jesus first in all things.

DHC · Feb 1, 2013

papajim said:
Hello Jiggyfly and David, it's been a while since we last talked. As you know we live in a world of wickedness and lawlessness. There is greed, strife, hatred, selfishness, murder, violence, adultry, liars, coveters, and idolaters everywhere. We can't send our children to school anymore without fear. We live on a planet that does not believe in law, we aso live in a world without Christ and my belief is, it is going to get worse. The law was never meant to save us only to point out what sin is. Righteousness can only come by faith. "we are saved by grace through faith" Only faith in Jesus Christ can save us not in our sins but seperate us from them as far from the east is to the west. It is true that Jesus has already seperated us from all unrighteousness so that the law (ten commandments) has no more jurisdiction over us, but we RECIEVE this through faith. Whatever is not of faith is sin. If I say I am in Christ and I commit adultry I am a liar for there is no adultry in Christ, but the law is there to point out the sin which says "thou shalt not commit adultry" to drive me back to Christ. I first have to seperate myself from Christ to sin. The bible says "where there is no sin there is no law, then to reverse that, where there is sin there is law. The only way to overcome all sin is to put Jesus first in all things.

Galatians 3:22
But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise
by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

Romans 13:10
Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

All is understood only in Christ.

Puddleglum · Feb 1, 2013

David777 said:
Hello puddlegum.

A law by definition means that disobedience results in a penalty.

If you are under Grace then sabbath observance is not a law?

If sabbath observance is not a law then there is no penalty?

Why honor the sabbath?

What happens if you do not observe it?

You know what sin does. deal with it.

If you do not offend Christ, all is fine, but if one does offend look what we have coming,:coocoo: ( just look around you now days ) as the point is you may believe in god as one who does believe but there is more to it than just, to believe. because when we know Jesus Christ, we do his will and abide in him = grace. and there you have it in a nut shell. abide in Christ and you will not offend the Law, why ? because if you are in the Spirit you do the will of God and that does not offend the Law, now does it.
Them their 2 Laws Jesus Christ gave, tops all the Laws off.
But if you offend, i would think one would be wise to get back in the Spirit with Jesus.
Are you a Sinner ? or just above all that. totally ?
The Law judges people, but the one in the Spirit is not Judged, why ? because the one in the Spirit does the will of God, so how can he offend as he does not defile any Law.
We have ones that are happily and content with braking Laws. but i my self think one should be of repentance due to lack of any regard. but if one says we can defile the Law and think nothing of it, and he goes about saying lord lord. but will Jesus know you ? but now we are getting back to why the people of God in the OT fell out with God, why ? they turned away from the true God of Israel, for Idolatry ! yes that's it Idolatry. and some calling themselves christians and in just believe only and that's all, nothing more but just that. ( they don't even know Jesus, who he really is in depth ) and Jesus said about the Labourers were few. that means one must bare fruit because you abide in the vine = Jesus.

Bobby J · Feb 1, 2013

When Jesus said go your way and sin no more He meant just that. dozens of verses tell us to be perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect. We were made in his image he took away our sin nature when He filled with His spirit that is if you have been filled with His spirit.
but in 1 John 2 it says if we do sin we have an advocate our lawer Jesus who keeps us under the blood.

Puddleglum · Feb 2, 2013

Bobby J said:
When Jesus said go your way and sin no more He meant just that. dozens of verses tell us to be perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect. We were made in his image he took away our sin nature when He filled with His spirit that is if you have been filled with His spirit.
but in 1 John 2 it says if we do sin we have an advocate our lawer Jesus who keeps us under the blood.

But in ! ?
Where is the verse that says it as you say - our lawyer - or Jesus who keeps us under the blood. 1 John 2 does not say that.
Under the blood, what do you mean exactly by that. is the blood above the Spirit ? his blood ? or just blood.

DHC · Feb 2, 2013

Puddleglum said:
You know what sin does. deal with it. If you do not offend Christ, all is fine, but if one does offend look what we have coming,:coocoo: ( just look around you now days ) as the point is you may believe in god as one who does believe but there is more to it than just, to believe. because when we know Jesus Christ, we do his will and abide in him = grace. and there you have it in a nut shell. abide in Christ and you will not offend the Law, why ? because if you are in the Spirit you do the will of God and that does not offend the Law, now does it.
Them their 2 Laws Jesus Christ gave, tops all the Laws off.
But if you offend, i would think one would be wise to get back in the Spirit with Jesus.
Are you a Sinner ? or just above all that. totally ?
The Law judges people, but the one in the Spirit is not Judged, why ? because the one in the Spirit does the will of God, so how can he offend as he does not defile any Law.
We have ones that are happily and content with braking Laws. but i my self think one should be of repentance due to lack of any regard. but if one says we can defile the Law and think nothing of it, and he goes about saying lord lord. but will Jesus know you ? but now we are getting back to why the people of God in the OT fell out with God, why ? they turned away from the true God of Israel, for Idolatry ! yes that's it Idolatry. and some calling themselves christians and in just believe only and that's all, nothing more but just that. ( they don't even know Jesus, who he really is in depth ) and Jesus said about the Labourers were few. that means one must bare fruit because you abide in the vine = Jesus.

Hello puddlegum.

You said, "You know what sin does. deal with it."

I do not have to deal with sin, Christ has already
dealt with it.

Hebrews 10
14 For by one offering He has perfected for all time
those who are sanctified.

Do I have to sanctify myself?

Hebrews 10:29
...and hath counted the blood of the covenant wherein
he was sanctified an unholy thing, and hath done despite
unto the Spirit of grace?

Puddlegum, where you are in error is the approach you
take in dealing with sin. You use the law to drive yourself
into Christ. This approach does not deal with the issue
of the deeds of the flesh. You will just bounce back and forth
from sin to Christ back to sin, etc.

Scripture outlines how the sinful nature is dealt with.

Romans 6:6
knowing this, that our old man was crucified with him,
that the body of sin might be done away, that so we should
no longer be in bondage to sin;

We execute the body of sin with Jesus, no mercy is shown,
in order that we may gain life eternal. This is the only sure
way to deal with the bondage of sin. That is what following
Jesus entails, consider yourself dead to sin. Crucify the flesh
daily, do not tease the flesh with the letter of the law.

When the flesh is dead sin has been dealt with.

Barny · Feb 4, 2013

DHC said:
Hello puddlegum.

You said, "You know what sin does. deal with it."

I do not have to deal with sin, Christ has already
dealt with it.

Hebrews 10
14 For by one offering He has perfected for all time
those who are sanctified.

Do I have to sanctify myself?

Hebrews 10:29
...and hath counted the blood of the covenant wherein
he was sanctified an unholy thing, and hath done despite
unto the Spirit of grace?

Puddlegum, where you are in error is the approach you
take in dealing with sin. You use the law to drive yourself
into Christ. This approach does not deal with the issue
of the deeds of the flesh. You will just bounce back and forth
from sin to Christ back to sin, etc.

Scripture outlines how the sinful nature is dealt with.

Romans 6:6
knowing this, that our old man was crucified with him,
that the body of sin might be done away, that so we should
no longer be in bondage to sin;

We execute the body of sin with Jesus, no mercy is shown,
in order that we may gain life eternal. This is the only sure
way to deal with the bondage of sin. That is what following
Jesus entails, consider yourself dead to sin. Crucify the flesh
daily, do not tease the flesh with the letter of the law.

When the flesh is dead sin has been dealt with.

AMEN. Well said DHC

Bobby J · Feb 4, 2013

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This is what I meant about being under the blood, The Blood of His covenant.
1 John 5.8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

(Exodus 12:13). Blood
There isn’t enough space here to thoroughly explain all of this. There is a book called The Scarlet Thread of Redemption. If you want to cover it completely you should read it. I think you can get it free on the Web

Jesus says to the disciples at the last supper.
Matt 26.28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Exodus 12:13

"And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt" (Exodus 12:13). Here in Exodus the people were told to spread the blood of lambs over the door posts of their houses that the Angel of death would pass by them. It was a example to us that is we accept Jesus as Lord then we are to by faith stay under His blood covenant in order to stay right with God. That is our sins once and for always are covered by the blood of Jesus. If we in faith acknowledge them to the Lord.

Rev 7.14 And I said unto him, Sir, you knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb

Rev 12.11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

"For it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul" (Leviticus 17:11).

"And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt" (Exodus 12:13).
Romans 5.9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

Ephesians 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
Eph 2.13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Col 1.20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

We are under the blood covenant of Jesus therefore we have access to Gods presence under the Blood of Jesus.

Heb 10.19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

1John 1.7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanses us from all sin.
Being under the blood of Jesus through all of our shortcomings and tribulations here on earth we are right with God
Rev 7.14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Isaiah 9.5 For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this shall be with burning and fuel of fire.
Here this is saying that every Christian who makes the stand with Jesus will be in a war with satan, and satan crafty as he is will cause us to sin. So the the blood covering us so our sins are covered as well.

stephen · Feb 4, 2013

What does Jesus mean when he says
Go and sin no more?

Jesus means just that. To the best of our ability.

brakelite · Feb 4, 2013

stephen said:
Jesus means just that. To the best of our ability.

Hi Stephen. Would it not be more correct to say that we overcome according to His ability? We personally have no abiblity at all, that is why we need Jesus. But in Him is found all our sufficiency. It is as we surrender to Him, (not as we strive to be like Jesus) that He lives His life through us. He has already overcome, so as we accept the mind of Christ into our own minds, His overcoming becomes our own by faith. The result is that sin becomes as repugnant to us as it was to Jesus. Our love for others becomes as all emconpassing as it was for Jesus. His holiness becomes ours, His righteousness becomes ours, His obedience becomes ours. We go and sin no more, because we have the mind of Christ.
Regards B.

B-A-C · Feb 4, 2013

brakelite said:
Hi Stephen. Would it not be more correct to say that we overcome according to His ability? We personally have no abiblity at all, that is why we need Jesus. But in Him is found all our sufficiency. It is as we surrender to Him, (not as we strive to be like Jesus) that He lives His life through us. He has already overcome, so as we accept the mind of Christ into our own minds, His overcoming becomes our own by faith. The result is that sin becomes as repugnant to us as it was to Jesus.

Very good point, I believe this can and does happen. Otherwise the kingdom of God is only in Words and not in power. ( 1 Cor 4:20 )
But does this happen all at once upon the moment of Salvation? Or is this an on-going process? I know some people who quit drinking, cursing, smoking, the day they got saved and haven't done those particular things in many years. (They still confess other sins from time to time). I know other people that have been saved for years and still struggle with many things.
I believe that when we have these victories over sin, it is only by Christ. But do we ever truly conquer sin 100% while we are still flesh and blood?

Barny · Feb 5, 2013

Go and sin no more means exactly that.
Sin No More (sin being transgression of the law, 1John 3:4).

Thats what the law requires. To offend in one point makes you guilty of all the law, James 2:10.

Praise God that Christ set us free from the law of sin and death, Rom 8:2
Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believes." Rom 10:4
Our old man has been crucified with Christ, Rom 6:6 therefore we've "ceased from sin" 1Pet 4:1.

1John 3:9
Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed (Christ) remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

This is not speaking of the imperfect physical that we all see. It's dead (by faith) because of sin anyway, Rom 8:10.
Instead the scriptures above refers to the new creation in Christ. I no longer live but Christ lives in me, Gal 2:20.

B-A-C · Feb 5, 2013

Practicing sin. Does the word practice imply doing something one or two times? A few times?
Or does it imply doing the same thing over and over and over again many many times?
The verses below are from the Amplified version, but many other versions are similar.
The point of this is, if you sin occasionally that's one thing. If you make a life style out of it, that's another thing.
The verses below or from the Amplified Bible, I haven't added or changed any of the words.

Matt 7:23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
Rom 1:32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.

Gal 5:21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

John 8:34 Jesus answered them, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, Whoever commits and practices sin is the slave of sin.
Col 3:7 Among whom you also once walked, when you were living in and addicted to [such practices].
1 Jn 3:4 Everyone who commits (practices) sin is guilty of lawlessness; for [that is what] sin is, lawlessness (the breaking, violating of God's law by transgression or neglect--being unrestrained and unregulated by His commands and His will).
1 Jn 3:8 [But] he who commits sin [who practices evildoing] is of the devil [takes his character from the evil one], for the devil has sinned (violated the divine law) from the beginning. The reason the Son of God was made manifest (visible) was to undo (destroy, loosen, and dissolve) the works the devil [has done].
1 Jn 3:9 No one born (begotten) of God [deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] practices sin, for God's nature abides in him [His principle of life, the divine *****, remains permanently within him]; and he cannot practice sinning because he is born (begotten) of God.

The word that appears in most of these verses is...
G4238
πράσσω
prassō
pras'-so
A primary verb; to “practise”, that is, perform repeatedly or habitually (thus differing from G4160, which properly refers to a single act); by implication to execute, accomplish, etc.; specifically to collect (dues), fare (personally): - commit, deeds, do, exact, keep, require, use arts.

Christians are told they should quit ding certain things.
1 Thes 4:3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification; that is, that you abstain from sexual immorality;
1 Thes 5:22 abstain from every form of evil.
2 Tim 2:19 Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness."
1 Pet 2:11 Beloved, I urge you as aliens and strangers to abstain from fleshly lusts which wage war against the soul.

Rom 6:6 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin;
Again, there is a difference between sinning sometimes, and being a "slave" to sin.

Eph 4:28 He who steals must steal no longer; but rather he must labor, performing with his own hands what is good, so that he will have something to share with one who has need.

We are also asked to keep the commandments. While it may be true our salvation doesn't depend on these things, (and that's the point, grace covers them, that's Christ's righteousness, not ours)
we are told not to do them anymore, literally dozens of times in the NT. We are told to practice righteousness. The Bible never says sin isn't sin. It just says Christians sins are forgiven.
Christians aren't sinless, they should just sin less".

If you join a club, and the charter of the club says "You can't speed in your car anymore" if you are in our club.
Does that mean they have the power to stop you? Or does that mean you should try your best not to do it? In fact if you keep doing it, are you really trying to be a member of the club?

1 Cor 15:34 Become sober-minded as you ought, and stop sinning; for some have no knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame.

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