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That is a very, very important point because according to Deut 5:2-4, Rom 4:15,
Rom 5:13, and Gal 3:17, God-given laws are not retroactive.

For example: although Cain's slaying of his kid brother was wrong, the slaying
wasn't punishable as a murder in his day because Gen 9:5-6 wasn't given by God
yet to prohibit murder and/or to prescribe a punishment for murderers.
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It would explain Cain's fear that his own relatives of Abel would avenge Abel were the only other people on that earth for why he had no place to hide any where on earth and why he had sought protection from the Lord.
 
The scriptures say Adam had a covenant with God.
The marriage covenant is the only one I am familiar with. What covenant are you talking about and show the scripture that uses the word "covenant" also.
The scriptures say Adam did wrong by what he did and does not say that he didn't believe. That is a sin what you are doing. You might think it wouldn't be a bad sin, but it is.
It is by not believing God and His word for why he had hearkened unto the woman's word is why he committed that sin of eating the forbidden fruit and I already showed you the scriptures that testified to that sin of listening to the woman over His words, thus not believing God and His words is how Adam committed that sin. Salvation is the opposite of that by believing God and His words that by believing in Jesus Christ is how one is born again of the Spirit & has eternal life.
 
Nicodemus should have known from the old testament the salvation that would be coming through the repentance of sins. Nicodemus was Israel's teacher and should have known.
Not so when Nicodemus did ask Jesus that question and Jesus told him how and when one is born again of the Spirit which is to occur after His ascension which is after His crucifixion for why any one that comes to & believes in Jesus Christ has eternal life and thus are saved and born again of the Spirit.

Jesus did not mention repentance from sins as something the sinner had to do before getting saved or to be born again of the Spirit at all, but He sure does teach it in regards to discipleship after salvation to lean on Him to repent of sins daily.

Go ahead and point out Jesus answer to Nicodemus on how repentance from sins first is required for salvation or to be born again of the Spirit because all I see is believing in Him is how we are saved.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

See any difference between the saved and the unsaved by repentance of sins? It is not mentioned at all and yet what is mentioned the difference between the saved and the unsaved is belief for the saved and unbelief for the unsaved.
 
The marriage covenant is the only one I am familiar with. What covenant are you talking about and show the scripture that uses the word "covenant" also.
Marriage covenant?

When God told Adam and Eve all they could do and what they could not do---THAT IS A COVENANT.

Hosea 6:7

But they, like Adam, have transgressed the covenant; there they were unfaithful to Me.
It is by not believing God and His word for why he had hearkened unto the woman's word is why he committed that sin of eating the forbidden fruit and I already showed you the scriptures that testified to that sin of listening to the woman over His words, thus not believing God and His words is how Adam committed that sin.
The scriptures DO NOT say what you say!!!

Is there something wrong with you?

No scripture ANYWHERE says Adam didn't believe in God and that it was his sin.

He sinned by not obeying God.

That is what the scriptures say.

I gave you scriptures saying that.
Salvation is the opposite of that by believing God and His words that by believing in Jesus Christ is how one is born again of the Spirit & has eternal life.
Believing and nothing ELSE IS DEAD AND CANNOT SAVE ANYONE.
 

NOT SO? Jesus says so!
when Nicodemus did ask Jesus that question and Jesus told him how and when one is born again of the Spirit which is to occur after His ascension which is after His crucifixion for why any one that comes to & believes in Jesus Christ has eternal life and thus are saved and born again of the Spirit.

John 3:10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?


So don't say no! The scripture says it plainly.




Jesus did not mention repentance from sins as something the sinner had to do before getting saved or to be born again of the Spirit at all, but He sure does teach it in regards to discipleship after salvation to lean on Him to repent of sins daily.

The old testament speaks about it and I gave you the scriptures.

You will never ever come to a knowledge of the truth, for the very way we get knowledge is what you go against.
Go ahead and point out Jesus answer to Nicodemus on how repentance from sins first is required for salvation or to be born again of the Spirit because all I see is believing in Him is how we are saved.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

You see that? Nicodemus should know these things because he is a teacher of the old testament.


11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
That is old testament prophecies about Jesus who was to come.

Those in the desert who were bit by snakes, they looked to the bronze snake and lived, BUT THEY STILL DIED IN THE DESERT AND DID NOT GET TO GO TO THE PROMISED LAND BECAUSE THEY DID NOT OBEY GOD.
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

We have to believe that we have to obey Jesus!

What is wrong with you man?

I have been explaining it to you so patiently and for so long.

Jesus says we have to believe in him---the Jews only knew of believing in God the Father, and now this man named Jesus comes along and says believe in me, because you have to obey me.

Jesus doesn't say just believe and do nothing else.

Jesus is tells us exactly HOW TO BE THE PERSON HE SAVES, we have to humble ourselves, to do everything God says, TO REPENT OF OUR SINS, and he says believe in him---you take away all that he tells us to do and just believe he says believe in him and do nothing else.

James and Peter have words about people like you.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Believe in His SON AND EVERYTHING HIS SON SAYS.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

See any difference between the saved and the unsaved by repentance of sins? It is not mentioned at all and yet what is mentioned the difference between the saved and the unsaved is belief for the saved and unbelief for the unsaved.

I gave you many scriptures that say we have to repent of our sins.

Mark 1:1 SAYS John's baptism of REPENTANCE IS THE BEGINNING OF THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST.

The first thing that Jesus starts teaching is to REPENT OR PERISH.
 
The first thing that Jesus starts teaching is to REPENT OR PERISH.
You either quote Jesus actually saying that or you can't.

This is what Jesus actually said;

Matthew 4:17From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. <---- the gold does not read "or perish". Indeed citing for the kingdom of heaven is at hand requires us to believe Him.
 
You either quote Jesus actually saying that or you can't.
There is something wrong with you. Satan has ensnared and blinded you.

How many times since you have discussed with me that I gave you the scripture?

Luke 13:3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.

This is what Jesus actually said;

Jesus actually said repent or perish, you need to stop preaching against Jesus.

Jesus is the Word of God the Lord and Savior.

Repent for going against Him.
 
Rom 5:13 . .People sinned even before the law was given. But it was not counted
as sin because there was not yet any law to break.

That passage applies to Sodom, about whom
Gen 13:13 and Gen 18:20 say:

"Now the men of Sodom were wicked exceedingly and sinners against The Lord"

"The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly
grave."

Sodom's deplorable behavior is revealed in Isa 3:8-9, Jer 23:14, and Jude 1:7
where it's says:

"For Jerusalem has stumbled, and Judah has fallen, because their speech and their
actions are against The Lord, to rebel against His glorious presence. The expression
of their faces bears witness against them, and they display their sin like Sodom;
they do not even conceal it."

"What I see in the prophets of Jerusalem is something horrifying: adultery and false
dealing. They encourage evildoers, so that no one turns back from his wickedness."

"Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them . . indulged in gross immorality
and went after strange flesh"

Now, when the Jews do things like that, they get slammed with violations but when
the Sodomites did the very same things, they were not slammed with violations
because none of that stuff was illegal in their day. That stuff was wrong, yes, but
not yet illegal.

This helps to illustrate a tricky legal principal which says prior to God-given codes of
conduct, people's sins were not counted against them as violations, i.e. not counted
as breaking the law.

A contemporary illustration is the way the founder of Facebook stole the idea from
those two college guys. The way he went about it was unscrupulous, but not illegal.
Same with the guy who stole McDonalds. What those dishonest men did was wrong,
but not against the law.
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Rom 5:13 . .People sinned even before the law was given. But it was not counted
as sin because there was not yet any law to break.

That passage applies to Sodom, about whom
Gen 13:13 and Gen 18:20 say:

"Now the men of Sodom were wicked exceedingly and sinners against The Lord"

"The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly
grave."

Sodom's deplorable behavior is revealed in Isa 3:8-9, Jer 23:14, and Jude 1:7
where it's says:

"For Jerusalem has stumbled, and Judah has fallen, because their speech and their
actions are against The Lord, to rebel against His glorious presence. The expression
of their faces bears witness against them, and they display their sin like Sodom;
they do not even conceal it."

"What I see in the prophets of Jerusalem is something horrifying: adultery and false
dealing. They encourage evildoers, so that no one turns back from his wickedness."

"Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them . . indulged in gross immorality
and went after strange flesh"

Now, when the Jews do things like that, they get slammed with violations but when
the Sodomites did the very same things, they were not slammed with violations
because none of that stuff was illegal in their day. That stuff was wrong, yes, but
not yet illegal.

This helps to illustrate a tricky legal principal which says people's sins committed
prior to God-given codes of conduct were not counted against them as violations,
i.e. not counted as breaking the law.
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Do you remember what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah?
 
The scriptures say Adam had a covenant with God.
Yes the covennant of death Thou shalt not or you will die .All in Adam perish
The scriptures say Adam did wrong by what he did and does not say that he didn't believe. That is a sin what you are doing. You might think it wouldn't be a bad sin, but it is.
All sin is transgressing the law . The wage is death. No such thing as mortal sin and vemial .
 
It wasn't a covenant of death.
Ok what was it . . ????. a covenant of life?

Geneisis 1:7 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

2 Corinthians 3:6 King James Version Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Isaiah 28: 14-15 Therefore hear the word of the Lord, you scofferswho rule this people in Jerusalem. You boast, “We have entered into a covenant with death, with the realm of the dead we have made an agreement.When an overwhelming scourge sweeps by,it cannot touch us, for we have made a lie our refugeand falsehood our hiding place.”
 
Rom 5:13 . .People sinned even before the law was given. But it was not counted
as sin because there was not yet any law to break.

That passage applies to Sodom, about whom
Gen 13:13 and Gen 18:20 say:

"Now the men of Sodom were wicked exceedingly and sinners against The Lord"

"The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly
grave."

Sodom's deplorable behavior is revealed in Isa 3:8-9, Jer 23:14, and Jude 1:7
where it's says:

"For Jerusalem has stumbled, and Judah has fallen, because their speech and their
actions are against The Lord, to rebel against His glorious presence. The expression
of their faces bears witness against them, and they display their sin like Sodom;
they do not even conceal it."

"What I see in the prophets of Jerusalem is something horrifying: adultery and false
dealing. They encourage evildoers, so that no one turns back from his wickedness."

"Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them . . indulged in gross immorality
and went after strange flesh"

Now, when the Jews do things like that, they get slammed with violations but when
the Sodomites did the very same things, they were not slammed with violations
because none of that stuff was illegal in their day. That stuff was wrong, yes, but
not yet illegal.

This helps to illustrate a tricky legal principal which says prior to God-given codes of
conduct, people's sins were not counted against them as violations, i.e. not counted
as breaking the law.

A contemporary illustration is the way the founder of Facebook stole the idea from
those two college guys. The way he went about it was unscrupulous, but not illegal.
Same with the guy who stole McDonalds. What those dishonest men did was wrong,
but not against the law.
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No loop holes in God's law.

I would suggest the Roman 5:13 account did not excuse them selves from the wage of sin death .

Roman 5:13 -14 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

Romans 2:12 For as many as have sinned without (the written) law shall also perish without (written) law: and as many as have sinned in the law (as it is written )shall be judged by the law; . (as it is written)

Judged by the book of law . . All things written in the law and the prophets or law and its outward testimony of faith.
 
Roman 5:13 -14 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed
when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over
them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression

Seeing as how death is universal, then there must be a universal cause for death;
and there is; even for infants and underage children.

Rom 5:12 . . Sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and
in this way death came to all men, because all sinned

"all men" allows for no exceptions. In point of fact, had not Jesus been crucified, he
would've eventually died of natural causes anyway because he was just as much
related to Adam as everyone else.

"all sinned" is grammatically past tense indicating that Adam's entire posterity was
reckoned associated with his sin in real time-- all regardless of age, race, and/or
gender. However, the good news is, Adam's sin isn't unto hell and eternal suffering.
Justice for Adam's sin is satisfied by one's passing.

FAQ: If baby Jesus was reckoned associated with Adam's sin the same as everyone else,

then how can it be said he was a lamb without blemish or spot?

REPLY: The forbidden fruit incident was Adam's sin. Jesus committed no sins of his

own to account for (John 8:29, 2Cor 5:21, Heb 4:15, 1Pet 2:22). In point of fact, it
was impossible for Jesus to commit sins of his own. (1John 3:9)
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FAQ: If baby Jesus was reckoned associated with Adam's sin the same as everyone else,
then how can it be said he was a lamb without blemish or spot?

What I would offer is remember the lamb slain. . . a term that incates suffering. . . . was performed at the foundation of the world the six days God did work.

The demonstration of that work came opening the way of the new testiment the reforemed goverment of God .the promised reformation had come indroduces the last days The Son of man Jesus knew no sin (spotless) the father empowered him to both hear his will and move him to to the fathers own good pleasure .He is of one mind and alaways does wahtseoever his woen soul pleases.

Yoked with Christ are berden can be made lighter
 
We have to eat Jesus.

That is something WE HAVE TO DO.

NO ONE will get in Jesus and Jesus in you UNLESS YOU EAT HIM FIRST.

How do you eat Jesus to get saved and stay saved?

' I am the living bread which came down from heaven:
if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever:
and the bread that I will give is My flesh,
which I will give for the life of the world.'
(Joh 6:51)

'The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying,
How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
.. Then Jesus said unto them, "Verily, verily, I say unto you,
.... Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink His blood, ye have no life in you.
...... Whoso eateth My flesh, and drinketh My blood, hath eternal life;
........ and I will raise him up at the last day.
.......... For My flesh is meat indeed, and My blood is drink indeed.
............ He that eateth My flesh, and drinketh My blood, dwelleth in Me, and I in him.
.............. As the living Father hath sent Me, and I live by the Father:
................ so he that eateth Me, even he shall live by Me.
This is that bread which came down from heaven:
not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead:
he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever. "'
(Joh 6:52 -58)

Many therefore of His disciples, when they had heard this, said,
This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples murmured at it,
.. He said unto them, "Doth this offend you?
.... What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where He was before?
...... It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
........ the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
(Joh 6:60-63)

Hello @God's Truth,

Eating and drinking of the Lord Jesus Christ, is hearing and receiving His word, inwardly digesting it, believing what He says, and walking in the light of it. For the words that He speaks are spirit and they are life.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
' I am the living bread which came down from heaven:
if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever:
and the bread that I will give is My flesh,
which I will give for the life of the world.'
(Joh 6:51)

'The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying,
How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
.. Then Jesus said unto them, "Verily, verily, I say unto you,
.... Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink His blood, ye have no life in you.
...... Whoso eateth My flesh, and drinketh My blood, hath eternal life;
........ and I will raise him up at the last day.
.......... For My flesh is meat indeed, and My blood is drink indeed.
............ He that eateth My flesh, and drinketh My blood, dwelleth in Me, and I in him.
.............. As the living Father hath sent Me, and I live by the Father:
................ so he that eateth Me, even he shall live by Me.
This is that bread which came down from heaven:
not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead:
he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever. "'
(Joh 6:52 -58)

Many therefore of His disciples, when they had heard this, said,
This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples murmured at it,
.. He said unto them, "Doth this offend you?
.... What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where He was before?
...... It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
........ the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
(Joh 6:60-63)

Hello @God's Truth,

Eating and drinking of the Lord Jesus Christ, is hearing and receiving His word, inwardly digesting it, believing what He says, and walking in the light of it. For the words that He speaks are spirit and they are life.
Jesus says to drink his blood and eat his flesh. So are you saying that is only one thing and not two things about two different things?
You say to drink his blood and eat his flesh is to hear and receive, and inwardly digest it, and you say walking in the light of it.

Could you explain that more? If I understand you right, you say to eat and drink is the same thing and we do that by hearing and believing, correct? Or, are you saying to hear and to believe are two different things?

And then how would one inwardly digest it and walk in the light of it?
Thanks.
 
Beloved one, you are considering,”How we eat Jesus to get saved and stay saved.” For you heard what has been written in John 6:51.
“I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world.””
‭‭John‬ ‭6:51‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
And also, you are considering what has been written in John 6:53.
“Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you EAT the flesh of the Son of Man and DRINK His blood, you have no life in you.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:53‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
So you are asking how we eat Jesus and drink His blood ?

This is what we have heard:
“Blessed are they which do HUNGER and THIRST after righteousness: for they shall be filled.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Beloved one, we eat Jesus’ flesh and drink His blood by being hungry and thirsty after the righteousness of God.

For we also heard apostle Paul said:

“Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they may be SAVED. For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:1-3‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

If our hearts desire and prayer to God for Gentiles is that we may be saved, we should submit to the righteousness of God, that apostle Paul may testify that we have a zeal of God according to knowledge.

Selah
 
I heard you are asking how you differentiate eating His flesh and drinking His blood.

This is what we have heard our Lord Jesus said:

“And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he THAT COMETH TO ME shall never hunger; and he THAT BELIEVETH ON ME shall never thirst.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:35‬ ‭KJV‬‬

So righteousness of God that we can eat is the bread of life, that we come to Jesus.

And righteousness of God that we can drink is His blood, that we believe on Jesus.
Selah
 
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