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WE HAVE TO EAT JESUS

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A couple of things. The life of the flesh and blood (one thing) is not literal blood without the spirit essence of life

The literal blood of the sacrifices must be poured out to show that unseen spiritual life was given. God does not accept dead sacrifices or blemished .

Keeping with the law literal blod without the spirit must be poured a that base of altar . The blood of Jesus in keeping the law was poured out at the cross to show it returns to lifeless, dust.

Jesus working with the father gave his spirit life in jeopardy of the Holy Spirit, the Father of all spirit life that worked in Jesus as if Spirit was blood .
That's the animal sacrifice, in which God takes no pleasure. It was written in Isaiah 1:11 and a lawyer kind of quoted that in his response to the two great commandments from Jesus. His death on the cross was the ultimate sacrifice that legally ended the ritual of animal sacrifice. As you said, God doesn't accept dead sacrifices, therefore after Jesus we ought to present ourselves as living sacrifice.
 
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That's the animal sacrifice, in which God takes no pleasure. It was written in Isaiah 1:11 and a lawyer kind of quoted that in his response to the two great commandments from Jesus. His death on the cross was the ultimate sacrifice that legally ended the ritual of animal sacrifice. As you said, God doesn't accept dead sacrifices, therefore after Jesus we ought to present ourselves as living sacrifice.

Yes we ought to present ourselves as living sacrifice.


Animals, fish, birds of different kinds. The clean to represent the redeemed and unclean those not redeemed used in ceremonial laws as to their suffering unto death (not dead) the giving of spirit life in jeopardy of one own spirit( Living sacrifice)

They all as shadows pointed ahead the three days and nights demonstration .The suffering of Christ beforehand and the glory that followed. The old testament saints rising to the new Jerusalem the heavenly Zion. . opening the resurrection gate .

They receiving the end of their born again faith, the salvation of their souls from the first hearing of faith (Gods ‘understanding) given to sons of God. The gospel in advance

1 Peter 1 a beautiful gospel parable .



1 Peter 1: 8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

They looked ahaed using cerimoinal laws as shdows . We look back to the same glorious monent by the same spirit of faith that mutualy works in all born again from above.
 
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I've given you two more verses that go against it. Bible doesn't contradict itself.
You are going against the scripture where Jesus says clearly to drink his blood and eat his flesh. Jesus said he was speaking spiritually. You said don't do that.
You are speaking against what Jesus says to do.
 
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You are going against the scripture where Jesus says clearly to drink his blood and eat his flesh. Jesus said he was speaking spiritually. You said don't do that.
You are speaking against what Jesus says to do.
You asked how to "eat" Jesus, and the answer is simple - become a part of the Body of Jesus, and partake the holy communion, which symbolizes his flesh and blood. It was never meant to be a mystery.
 
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You asked how to "eat" Jesus, and the answer is simple - become a part of the Body of Jesus, and partake the holy communion, which symbolizes his flesh and blood. It was never meant to be a mystery.

Hi thanks for the reply.

You suggeted .. Symbolizes his flesh and blood. It was never meant to be a mystery?

Does not symbolize denote a mystery?

I would offer. If it is not given as a mystery or parable. Than literally drinking blood without spirit life is necessary for salvation the Catholic doctrine. . things with no power turning into the literal Real Presence. Cannibalism.

Galatians 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
 
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You asked how to "eat" Jesus, and the answer is simple - become a part of the Body of Jesus, and partake the holy communion, which symbolizes his flesh and blood. It was never meant to be a mystery.
You are speaking about the remembrance supper.

I am talking about believing and obeying.
 
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You are speaking about the remembrance supper.

I am talking about believing and obeying.
That passover supper is the only event that Jesus was specifically calling the bread his body and the wine his blood. Yes, we ought to believe and obey, which is continuously believing, but that's the job of the Holy Spirit, which I think is not a good idea to be confused with partaking the Holy Communion.

I would offer. If it is not given as a mystery or parable. Than literally drinking blood without spirit life is necessary for salvation the Catholic doctrine. . things with no power turning into the literal Real Presence. Cannibalism.
That doctrine is bogus. Giving thanks to the Lord for our food and drink in remembrance of Jesus is supposed to be a daily ritual, not an exclusive religious ritual held inside the church building. Also, when Jesus declared IT IS FINISHED, it was finished. We shouldn't sacrifice him over and over again at every Eucharist.
 
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That passover supper is the only event that Jesus was specifically calling the bread his body and the wine his blood. Yes, we ought to believe and obey, which is continuously believing, but that's the job of the Holy Spirit, which I think is not a good idea to be confused with partaking the Holy Communion.


That doctrine is bogus. Giving thanks to the Lord for our food and drink in remembrance of Jesus is supposed to be a daily ritual, not an exclusive religious ritual held inside the church building. Also, when Jesus declared IT IS FINISHED, it was finished. We shouldn't sacrifice him over and over again at every Eucharist.

Yes given as a parable a mystery hiding the gospel understanding Parables the signified tongue of God.

Literally drinking blood is Cannibalism

Galatians 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
 
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Yes given as a parable a mystery hiding the gospel understanding Parables the signified tongue of God.

Literally drinking blood is Cannibalism

Galatians 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
That was a ritual, not a tale like other parables. Besides, Jesus never concealed his teaching behind a parable when he was with the disciples in his inner circle, he only preached in that way to the multitude or the Pharisees, and one purpose of the parables, as I’ve learned, is to bypass the security system in their hearts and sneak in through a backdoor. In other words, it’s a kind of euphemism that subtly gives the audience the truth without hurting their feelings.
 
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That was a ritual, not a tale like other parables. Besides, Jesus never concealed his teaching behind a parable when he was with the disciples in his inner circle, he only preached in that way to the multitude or the Pharisees, and one purpose of the parables, as I’ve learned, is to bypass the security system in their hearts and sneak in through a backdoor. In other words, it’s a kind of euphemism that subtly gives the audience the truth without hurting their feelings.

Not a salvation issue .But how can we hear God not seen?

Parables, the hidden understanding are a form of prophecy. Sweet to our taste . . taste like honey, the color of Pearls .Pearl the gates we enter acording to the Revelations discription .Those metaphors are used the same way throughout the bible .

Exodus 16:31 And the house of Israel called the name thereof Manna: and it was like coriander seed, white; and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey.


Prophecy is historically true on the surface but has a gospel meaning hid from the lost. A litle digging is necesssary. Takes more than raking the leaves .

Parables are designed by God to teach us how to walk by faith after the unseen things of God .It takes a little digging when searching as for rsilver and gold or the pearl of great price (salvation) Pearl, silver and gold are metaphors used in parables that represent the hearing of faith God’s hidden understanding.

The law of the interpretation of prophecy or parable below

Matthew 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:

Mark 4:11And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

Rituals as ceremonial laws are parables. . They preach the suffering of Christ beforehand and the glory that did follow the demonstration of the cross therefore meeting the fulfilment of the parable the “shadow disappears” .

1st Peter 1 aids in understanding the purpose of parable (teach how to walk by faith the unseen things of God

Note. . . .(PURPLE) my added comment my understanding

1 Peter 1:7-11 That the trial of (your new born again) faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your faith, (born again) even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ, which was in them did signify, (using the temporl things seen ) when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

They looked ahead by the shadows of the ceremonies or what you call rituals we look back by the same spirit of faith that works in those yoked with Christ. No difference

Jesus concealed his teaching behind a parable when he was with the disciples in his inner circle. Bringing one parable after another hiding it from the apostles. On one occasion in their confusion and wondering not coming to a understanding. They must of thought Jesus went off the “deep end” ( the foolish. ill-advised. Reckless, . thoughtless. ). .endust like his own family who rejected his teaching. The Apostles started a new election “who is the greatest Alfa Dog”


When finished with the teaching .He rebuked the apostles and revealed to them that they knew not what manner of spirit they were of??? .(spirit of confusion) .

Again, parables are designed to teach us how to walk by faith, the unseen things of God. The Pharisees with Sadducees denied the word of God altogether to include the parables . Parables are not design for unbelievers. They refuse to hear the gospel as it is writen .

Eleven verses in which the gospel understanding was hid form the apostles .

Luke 44-55 Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying. Then there arose a reasoning among them, which of them should be greatest. And Jesus, perceiving the thought of their heart, took a child, and set him by him, And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great. And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem, And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him. And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.


Parables do not change the simplicity of the gospel but clearly enrich it like. Honey . . without them he spoke not . Frst parables are found in Genesis. . last in Revelation
 
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Not a salvation issue .But how can we hear God not seen?

Parables, the hidden understanding are a form of prophecy. Sweet to our taste . . taste like honey, the color of Pearls .Pearl the gates we enter acording to the Revelations discription .Those metaphors are used the same way throughout the bible .

Exodus 16:31 And the house of Israel called the name thereof Manna: and it was like coriander seed, white; and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey.


Prophecy is historically true on the surface but has a gospel meaning hid from the lost. A litle digging is necesssary. Takes more than raking the leaves .

Parables are designed by God to teach us how to walk by faith after the unseen things of God .It takes a little digging when searching as for rsilver and gold or the pearl of great price (salvation) Pearl, silver and gold are metaphors used in parables that represent the hearing of faith God’s hidden understanding.

The law of the interpretation of prophecy or parable below

Matthew 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:

Mark 4:11And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

Rituals as ceremonial laws are parables. . They preach the suffering of Christ beforehand and the glory that did follow the demonstration of the cross therefore meeting the fulfilment of the parable the “shadow disappears” .

1st Peter 1 aids in understanding the purpose of parable (teach how to walk by faith the unseen things of God

Note. . . .(PURPLE) my added comment my understanding

1 Peter 1:7-11 That the trial of (your new born again) faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your faith, (born again) even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ, which was in them did signify, (using the temporl things seen ) when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

They looked ahead by the shadows of the ceremonies or what you call rituals we look back by the same spirit of faith that works in those yoked with Christ. No difference

Jesus concealed his teaching behind a parable when he was with the disciples in his inner circle. Bringing one parable after another hiding it from the apostles. On one occasion in their confusion and wondering not coming to a understanding. They must of thought Jesus went off the “deep end” ( the foolish. ill-advised. Reckless, . thoughtless. ). .endust like his own family who rejected his teaching. The Apostles started a new election “who is the greatest Alfa Dog”


When finished with the teaching .He rebuked the apostles and revealed to them that they knew not what manner of spirit they were of??? .(spirit of confusion) .

Again, parables are designed to teach us how to walk by faith, the unseen things of God. The Pharisees with Sadducees denied the word of God altogether to include the parables . Parables are not design for unbelievers. They refuse to hear the gospel as it is writen .

Eleven verses in which the gospel understanding was hid form the apostles .

Luke 44-55 Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying. Then there arose a reasoning among them, which of them should be greatest. And Jesus, perceiving the thought of their heart, took a child, and set him by him, And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great. And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem, And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him. And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.


Parables do not change the simplicity of the gospel but clearly enrich it like. Honey . . without them he spoke not . Frst parables are found in Genesis. . last in Revelation
All of the parables have prophetic value, Jesus was preaching the kingdom where he came from. The basic one and the first one was the parable of the sower, which Jesus later explained to the disciples in detail, that shows the angle of looking through the veil of the stories and characters. If that one is not understood, then no other parable is understood.


The topics of his parables are very common practices at the time, such as farming, wedding and money management, even in the gospel of John he made analogies of vine dressing and sheep herding, therefore it’s also a great teaching tool which we use very often as well to explain unfamiliar concepts with familiar examples in our daily lives.

That being said, the last supper really shouldn’t be considered a parable not a mystery. It was originally the Passover dinner to commemorate the exodus from Egypt, it was a feast instituted by God (Lev. 23:5-6), usually lumped together with the coming days of Unleavened Bread. Jesus and his disciples were diligently observing it. However, since Jesus was the Passover lamb, he imbued a new meaning into this feast, and expanded it to the gentile church.
 
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That passover supper is the only event that Jesus was specifically calling the bread his body and the wine his blood. Yes, we ought to believe and obey, which is continuously believing, but that's the job of the Holy Spirit, which I think is not a good idea to be confused with partaking the Holy Communion.
The job of the Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit doesn't do the obeying for us.
 
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The job of the Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit doesn't do the obeying for us.
Human will power is finite. Without the Holy Spirit, eventually you'll crack and give up. The key to obey God is to form godly habits and build muscle memories, so even when you're stressed, your body will act automatically as you're prepared. And that's where the Holy Spirit kicks in.
 
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Human will power is finite. Without the Holy Spirit, eventually you'll crack and give up. The key to obey God is to form godly habits and build muscle memories, so even when you're stressed, your body will act automatically as you're prepared. And that's where the Holy Spirit kicks in.
There are saved people who messed up and went back to a sin and then had to stop again.
 
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All of the parables have prophetic value, Jesus was preaching the kingdom where he came from. The basic one and the first one was the parable of the sower, which Jesus later explained to the disciples in detail, that shows the angle of looking through the veil of the stories and characters. If that one is not understood, then no other parable is understood.


The topics of his parables are very common practices at the time, such as farming, wedding and money management, even in the gospel of John he made analogies of vine dressing and sheep herding, therefore it’s also a great teaching tool which we use very often as well to explain unfamiliar concepts with familiar examples in our daily lives.

That being said, the last supper really shouldn’t be considered a parable not a mystery. It was originally the Passover dinner to commemorate the exodus from Egypt, it was a feast instituted by God (Lev. 23:5-6), usually lumped together with the coming days of Unleavened Bread. Jesus and his disciples were diligently observing it. However, since Jesus was the Passover lamb, he imbued a new meaning into this feast, and expanded it to the gentile church.


You did not address your idea that you said Jesus never concealed his teaching behind a parable when he was with the disciples in his inner circle, he only preached in that way to the multitude or the Pharisees..

Did you read the LIke 9 account it is same as Mark 9 ?

Does it teach us that parables are designed do teach us how to understand God not seen, the interpretation hid from the mind of natural un-redeemed mankind ? ?

Many say parables are good bedtimes children stories What is there purpose?
 
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You did not address your idea that you said Jesus never concealed his teaching behind a parable when he was with the disciples in his inner circle, he only preached in that way to the multitude or the Pharisees..

Did you read the LIke 9 account it is same as Mark 9 ?

Does it teach us that parables are designed do teach us how to understand God not seen, the interpretation hid from the mind of natural un-redeemed mankind ? ?

Many say parables are good bedtimes children stories What is there purpose?
Parables are a necessity, because there’s no available language to adequately describe what it is like in the kingdom of heaven. Even if Jesus had not concealed it behind parables, we still wouldn’t understand, because we don’t know what we don’t know, simple as that.
 
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Parables are a necessity, because there’s no available language to adequately describe what it is like in the kingdom of heaven. Even if Jesus had not concealed it behind parables, we still wouldn’t understand, because we don’t know what we don’t know, simple as that.

The spiritual hidden understanding adequately describes what it is like in the kingdom of heaven. The hidden gospel understanding

Do you think parables are designed to teach us how to walk or understand God not seen the very purpose? It would seem that way to me.
 
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The spiritual hidden understanding adequately describes what it is like in the kingdom of heaven. The hidden gospel understanding

Do you think parables are designed to teach us how to walk or understand God not seen the very purpose? It would seem that way to me.
As I said, parables are a teaching tool. Jesus once said to Nicodemus that if you can't understand earthly things, how can you understand heavenly things? We crawl before baby steps, and baby steps before walk, and walk before run. Yes, there're multiple layers of meanings, one theory suggests that the seven kingdom parables in Matt. 13, starting with the Sower, corresponding to the seven churches in Rev. 2-3. It draws a timeline of the spiritual status of the Church throughout the entire church age from the Pentecost to the rapture. But still, we peel it one layer at the time.
 
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