Tithing?

[spirit1st]

I understand many are tricked by pastors and groups and cults to live under certain laws for there gains.
Many rerfuse to live by faith and many do not teach Salvation is a true Birth , which we NEVER forget that moment in our lives!

if a person is not saved? then of course , it does not matter how they live there lives as far as the eternal goes!

But, if they are Born into the kingdom , then of course we are under the Kingdom laws!
Faith and LOVE!

Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Gal 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
Gal 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
Gal 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which engendereth to bondage, which is Hagar.
Gal 4:25 For this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Gal 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not; for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath a husband.
Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
Gal 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the Scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
Gal 4:31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Joh 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

Joh 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world


WE are Not even counted as Part of this evil world. Our Home is NEW JERRUSALEM , We no longer fit in here very good!

Listen , I do not want any to turn against the churches, We need to go to church, But we do not follow teachers or pastors , But only our LORD!


And Many hear demons ,that trick them. The HOLY GHOST Never goes against the Word of God, And We follow JESUS CHRIST , under the NEW TESTAMENT.
He is the NEW TESTAMENT!

i love church,

Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

We do not follow any man or women on earth .but ,we do honor those in power over us, we just do not accept there words as TRUTH!
Once we do? The HOLY GHOST has a Hard time changing us !

Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the Scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

You know, when I first accepted JESUS CHRIST and was truly Born -Again !
I thought the pastor knew more and was following him.
God spoke to me ,
He asked who was the most righteous in church , I said the pastor Lord !

He said , He is NO more than you !

I said, But LORD , He is your shepherd, He said , I AM THE SHEPHERD.
He said , You going to follow me or him?

I said , YOU LORD, He said DO IT THEN.
He scared me very much, since then , I do not follow any ,But my LORD JESUS CHRIST!

I hope you and others do the same!

 

[Blademan]

yes we are still offering up sacrifices. ourselves, we are suppose to be a living sacrifice daily unto the Lord.

This is a straw man response. It completely avoids the fact that you take Jesus words literally in one place, and as being non-literal in another when BOTH have the same implications within your flawed system of interpretation.

You're being inconsistent with the word of God. I don't get this. How do you gain anything by accepting what appeals to you, and rejecting those things that reveal the glaring inconsistencies in the way you are handling the scriptures? Please enlighten me. You have compounded my interest.

 

[wendy28davis]

tithing

This is a straw man response. It completely avoids the fact that you take Jesus words literally in one place, and as being non-literal in another when BOTH have the same implications within your flawed system of interpretation.

You're being inconsistent with the word of God. I don't get this. How do you gain anything by accepting what appeals to you, and rejecting those things that reveal the glaring inconsistencies in the way you are handling the scriptures? Please enlighten me. You have compounded my interest.

this is about tithing right? well i've made a comment on this site that's addressed to all, please read it. If you're saying my interpretation is flawed then you're saying the Holy Ghost is flawed,because it is Him that I'm being led of.Again the scriptures are Spiritually discerned.If you would be led of the Spirit then you would know I'm telling the truth.The Bible states those of the world will hear the world.Those of God will also hear God's people ,if they are of God.Seek God and ask for the truth.I'm confident in my Lord that He will lead you into all Spiritual knowledge.I'm just telling the truth to help people to know,so we can all make heaven.But if no one will listen then I can't make them.May God Bless You.

 

[wendy28davis]

tithing

I understand many are tricked by pastors and groups and cults to live under certain laws for there gains.
Many rerfuse to live by faith and many do not teach Salvation is a true Birth , which we NEVER forget that moment in our lives!

if a person is not saved? then of course , it does not matter how they live there lives as far as the eternal goes!

But, if they are Born into the kingdom , then of course we are under the Kingdom laws!
Faith and LOVE!

Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Gal 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
Gal 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
Gal 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which engendereth to bondage, which is Hagar.
Gal 4:25 For this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Gal 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not; for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath a husband.
Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
Gal 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the Scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
Gal 4:31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Joh 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

Joh 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world


WE are Not even counted as Part of this evil world. Our Home is NEW JERRUSALEM , We no longer fit in here very good!

Listen , I do not want any to turn against the churches, We need to go to church, But we do not follow teachers or pastors , But only our LORD!


And Many hear demons ,that trick them. The HOLY GHOST Never goes against the Word of God, And We follow JESUS CHRIST , under the NEW TESTAMENT.
He is the NEW TESTAMENT!

i love church,

Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

We do not follow any man or women on earth .but ,we do honor those in power over us, we just do not accept there words as TRUTH!
Once we do? The HOLY GHOST has a Hard time changing us !

Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the Scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

You know, when I first accepted JESUS CHRIST and was truly Born -Again !
I thought the pastor knew more and was following him.
God spoke to me ,
He asked who was the most righteous in church , I said the pastor Lord !

He said , He is NO more than you !

I said, But LORD , He is your shepherd, He said , I AM THE SHEPHERD.
He said , You going to follow me or him?

I said , YOU LORD, He said DO IT THEN.
He scared me very much, since then , I do not follow any ,But my LORD JESUS CHRIST!

I hope you and others do the same!

Do you live by the Ten Commandments? If so,why? It was back in the law,it's the old testament.

 

[wendy28davis]

tithing

The NEW TESTAMENT DID not start until our LORD DIED .HE became the NEW TESTAMENT ,Which we are to live under !

We can reject it or obey our LORD!


Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

Heb 9:20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.


HE has to die and give HIS Body and BLOOD for us to become the NEW WAY of life for us!

you were taught by mankind ,who refuses to live by Faith !

Act 15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia.
Act 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
Act 15:25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
Act 15:26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Act 15:27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.
Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
Act 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well, Fare ye well.
Act 15:30 So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle:


Jas 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Joh 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

There was no death until there was a birth.The NT testament began when Jesus was born.His death is what brought us (gentiles) salvation.Please read the letter addressed to all that I have typed.If then you still don't understand there's nothing more I can do for you,it'll will take God from here.May God Bless You.

 

[wendy28davis]

tithing

So what do you know about the tithe? Do you know who was to tithe and to whom they were to tithe to? Do you know what they were to tithe and how often they were to tithe? Do you know where they were to tithe?

Wendy the scriptures are very clear, tithing is an old covenant practice that is not found practiced in the new covenant by believers. Jesus was instructing people who were under the old covenant still, the new covenant was established at Christ's death on the cross.

Let's just look at the law on tithing for a minute.
Deuteronomy 14:22-28
22*“You must set aside a tithe of your crops—one-tenth of all the crops you harvest each year. 23*Bring this tithe to the place the Lord your God chooses for his name to be honored, and eat it there in his presence. This applies to your tithes of grain, new wine, olive oil, and the firstborn males of your flocks and herds. The purpose of tithing is to teach you always to fear the Lord your God. 24*Now the place the Lord your God chooses for his name to be honored might be a long way from your home. 25*If so, you may sell the tithe portion of your crops and herds and take the money to the place the Lord your God chooses. 26*When you arrive, use the money to buy anything you want—an ox, a sheep, some wine, or beer. Then feast there in the presence of the Lord your God and celebrate with your household. 27*And do not forget the Levites in your community, for they have no inheritance as you do.
28*“At the end of every third year bring the tithe of all your crops and store it in the nearest town. 29*Give it to the Levites, who have no inheritance among you, as well as to the foreigners living among you, the orphans, and the widows in your towns, so they can eat and be satisfied. Then the Lord your God will bless you in all your work.


So first off we can clearly see that the farmer/rancher was to bring a tenth of their increase to the temple/ tabernacle and eat it themselves in God's presence annually and every third year give it to the Levites. What we do not see are Carpenters, fishermen, or merchants commanded to tithe for that matter we don't see mention of farmhands and or ranch hands commanded to tithe. Secondly the tithe was a tenth of their increase of the crops and herds only and not all that they had.

But the old covenant is longer for today, we now have a new and better covenant. In the old covenant the third year tithe was to be given to the priest so who are the priests in the new covenant? In the old covenant the tithe was carried to the temple, what is the temple in the new covenant? Look at what Peter says.

1Peter 2:4&5
4*Come to Christ, who is the living cornerstone of God’s temple. He was rejected by the people, but he is precious to God who chose him.
5*And now God is building you, as living stones, into his spiritual temple. What’s more, you are God’s holy priests, who offer the spiritual sacrifices that please him because of Jesus Christ.

Now let me show you the reality of new covenant giving.

Acts 2:43-47
43*A deep sense of awe came over them all, and the apostles performed many miraculous signs and wonders. 44*And all the believers met together constantly and shared everything they had. 45*They sold their possessions and shared the proceeds with those in need. 46*They worshiped together at the Temple each day, met in homes for the Lord’s Supper, and shared their meals with great joy and generosity—47*all the while praising God and enjoying the goodwill of all the people. And each day the Lord added to their group those who were being saved.

Being led by the old covenant laws and regulations is not the same as being led by HolySpirit.

Romans 7:6
6*But now we have been released from the law, for we died with Christ, and we are no longer captive to its power. Now we can really serve God, not in the old way by obeying the letter of the law, but in the new way, by the Spirit.

2Corinthians 3:6
6*He is the one who has enabled us to represent his new covenant. This is a covenant, not of written laws, but of the Spirit. The old way ends in death; in the new way, the Holy Spirit gives life.

Bottom line Wendy, it is impossible to practice old covenant worship without compromising who we are in the new covenant. Now with that said, if you want to give ten percent of your earnings to a religious organization thats just fine, but understand that as a new covenant priest it does not substitute or diminish your responsibility to give and share with those around you who are in need.

jiggyfly My Bible says all things are possible through Christ Jesus our Lord.Nothing is impossible with God.You if you truly believe the Word of God then you would believe that.

 

[wendy28davis]

tithing

I want you all to know whether we can agree on the scriptures or not,in Christ Jesus I love you all!

 

[spirit1st]

Not one person was saved while Jesus walked the earth.
No one could be saved until He paid the price of Sin and accept HIM gospel as truth and HIM into there heart[spirit] as Lord and master!
No gentiles were accepted ,until after His DEATh .

He was born under the law and became the change of the law after His Death!

I love you to or i would not waste my time ,trying to bless you.
I am sure these others also love you!

Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness



2Co 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.


The Question is?
Do all things really become new?
or are we to live in the old ways?

Gal 3:12 And the law is not of faith

Rom 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.


Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.


2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. Gal


Joh 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.


Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.


The laws of moses were all toward the flesh !

The law of LOVE and faith is eternal laws!

God wants us Born -Again then living though our Spirit!

 

[wendy28davis]

tithing

Not one person was saved while Jesus walked the earth.
No one could be saved until He paid the price of Sin and accept HIM gospel as truth and HIM into there heart[spirit] as Lord and master!
No gentiles were accepted ,until after His DEATh .

He was born under the law and became the change of the law after His Death!

I love you to or i would not waste my time ,trying to bless you.
I am sure these others also love you!

Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness



2Co 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.


The Question is?
Do all things really become new?
or are we to live in the old ways?

Gal 3:12 And the law is not of faith

Rom 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.


Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.


2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. Gal


Joh 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.


Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.


The laws of moses were all toward the flesh !

The law of LOVE and faith is eternal laws!

God wants us Born -Again then living though our Spirit!

What happens when you are saved? Your sins are are forgiven right?Then you are clean.Then you are saved right?Ok take this scripture for thought in Matthew 9:2 .......Son be of good cheer:thy sins be forgiven thee.That was Jesus words.What about the thief on the cross? Jesus wasn't dead yet and He told the thief today thou shalt be with me in paradise.He saved Him then yet still being alive.Jesus saves through life not death.If so Jesus would still need to be dead in order for us to be saved.Read Luke chapter23 verses 39-43.God Bless!

 

[Blademan]

this is about tithing right?

Yes.

If you're saying my interpretation is flawed then you're saying the Holy Ghost is flawed,because it is Him that I'm being led of.

Well, the battering ram of "the Lord told me" doesn't affect me when I know, without a doubt, that the Lord would never go against His own written word. So, yes, I openly and unashamedly question what you think you're hearing from the Holy Spirit, based upon the very word of God.

Again the scriptures are Spiritually discerned.

It's also true that people can be, and are at times intellectually wrong in what they think they are hearing spiritually. You're still an intellectual being. The Lord calls us to WALK by the spirit, but also to use our God-given intellect in order to discern truth from falsehood, based upon his inerrent word. Paul of Tarsus said, "Prove ALL things," he didn't say to prove some things, or most things, but to prove ALL things. [Emphasis mine]

If you would be led of the Spirit then you would know I'm telling the truth.

Your pride is openly glaring. Questioning my spiritual discernment on the inferior basis of your own error is a very ugly thing to behold.

The Bible states those of the world will hear the world.

The Bible also states that there are many false prophets, which speaks of people who teach, what they think is of spiritual origins, that which is opposed to what is clearly written in the scriptures. We have an acid test of your words, and your words are found wanton.

Those of God will also hear God's people ,if they are of God.

You're certainly a manipulative person. The undercurrents of your accusation against me are hardly masked by the lofty-sounding words.

Seek God and ask for the truth.

I already have, and I humbly submit that He is true, and all men are liars by comparison.

I'm confident in my Lord that He will lead you into all Spiritual knowledge.

TRUE spiritual knowledge will never stand as a bastian against the word of God.

I'm just telling the truth to help people to know,so we can all make heaven.

Tithing is not a matter of salvation. Any truly spiritual person would know this.

But if no one will listen then I can't make them.

That is true, and I'm thankful for that.

 

[wendy28davis]

tithing

Yes.



Well, the battering ram of "the Lord told me" doesn't affect me when I know, without a doubt, that the Lord would never go against His own written word. So, yes, I openly and unashamedly question what you think you're hearing from the Holy Spirit, based upon the very word of God.



It's also true that people can be, and are at times intellectually wrong in what they think they are hearing spiritually. You're still an intellectual being. The Lord calls us to WALK by the spirit, but also to use our God-given intellect in order to discern truth from falsehood, based upon his inerrent word. Paul of Tarsus said, "Prove ALL things," he didn't say to prove some things, or most things, but to prove ALL things. [Emphasis mine]



Your pride is openly glaring. Questioning my spiritual discernment on the inferior basis of your own error is a very ugly thing to behold.



The Bible also states that there are many false prophets, which speaks of people who teach, what they think is of spiritual origins, that which is opposed to what is clearly written in the scriptures. We have an acid test of your words, and your words are found wanton.



You're certainly a manipulative person. The undercurrents of your accusation against me are hardly masked by the lofty-sounding words.



I already have, and I humbly submit that He is true, and all men are liars by comparison.



TRUE spiritual knowledge will never stand as a bastian against the word of God.



Tithing is not a matter of salvation. Any truly spiritual person would know this.



That is true, and I'm thankful for that.

Blademan, the Bible says we will know a tree by its fruit. I sense hostility in your responses.Love is of God.Another word for love in the Bible is Charity.1Cor.chapter 13 verses 4-8 please read. It clearly states that Charity is long suffering,is not easily provoked,and is not puffed up. There's more to Charity ,I just stated the few.I'm not arrogant,but if you are true to the Lord then you can be confident that you are pleasing to Him.Even Enoch's testimony was, I please God. That was right before his translation.But you have responded in such a way that even through a computer I since the anger.I've discussed this same matter with others here and have not sensed the hostility that I since from your post.You called me very unkind and untrue names.Never once Have I called you a name in a discussion.Jesus would not Have talked like you have to me.We are suppose to be like Him.We can have discussions and disagreements without fighting and putting each other down.Again you are not bearing the fruits of Charity in your responses.Charity is not puffed up,easily provoked, and it is long suffering.The good tree must bare the good fruit.The things I have said is completely Bible here in this response to you.(as to the scriptures). I haven't called you any names just because you don't agree with me.We are having a discussion not a debate.May God bless You.

 

[spirit1st]

Salvation is a REAL new birth.
The price of sin had to be paid ,before any could be born -again!


Born -again , born of GOD, Born from above , Born of our Spirit are all the NEW BIRTH and Our eternal life!



You have rejected all these people have shown you !

How could we have salvation , Be fore HE died????


Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.


Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.


Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth;


Heb 9:20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
It had to be shed , before we could have SALVATION!


Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?


This is MY LORDS GOSPEL!
And the only way to salvation.

1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the Scriptures:


Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

 

[wendy28davis]

tithing

Salvation is a REAL new birth.
The price of sin had to be paid ,before any could be born -again!


Born -again , born of GOD, Born from above , Born of our Spirit are all the NEW BIRTH and Our eternal life!



You have rejected all these people have shown you !

How could we have salvation , Be fore HE died????


Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.


Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.


Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth;


Heb 9:20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
It had to be shed , before we could have SALVATION!


Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?


This is MY LORDS GOSPEL!
And the only way to salvation.

1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the Scriptures:


Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

The only thing I have rejected is about the tithes.So,I don't believe like you all,I don't have too.We are suppose to be having a discussion about the word not a debate.I'm I mad because you don't believe the way I do,No.Are you all mad because I don't believe like you all?Hmmmm? Some posts from some people seems a little like so.Whatever we do here,and this goes for all, including myself,we must do it in all meekness and love.God is love,and where there is no love there is no God.Can we all agree on this?We all need more love.We say we have love,but truly I stand in doubt.The saying actions speaks louder than words,is a true saying.May God help us all.

 

[jiggyfly]

jiggyfly My Bible says all things are possible through Christ Jesus our Lord.Nothing is impossible with God.You if you truly believe the Word of God then you would believe that.

Context, context, context and again context.

 

[spirit1st]

Then it sure be Very CLEAR !
We are ALL to live under LOVE and BY LOVE!

Not by the laws of moses!

Your correct , we are made by LOVE to LOVE and be LOVED .This is our purpose for life!


Gal 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.

Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

 

[wendy28davis]

tithing

Context, context, context and again context.

Okay,so,are you saying you don't believe the scripture that says all things are possible through Christ Jesus?Then IF that is what you are saying, what else in the Bible don't you believe?

 

[wendy28davis]

tithing

Question? Does anyone here pray everyday? I'm not talking like a going down the road kind of thing,you know on your way to work or something.Which it's wonderful to talk to God all the time.So, please don't take it that is what I'm saying.I mean does everyone here get on their knees everyday,humble themselves before the Lord? Does everyone here fast and seek the Lord? Do you read your Bible daily? Have you sanctified yourself from the things of this world? ??????

 

[Blademan]

the Bible says we will know a tree by its fruit. I sense hostility in your responses.

Please don't let the computer screen fool you. You can't see my facial expressions, and you can't hear the inflections in my voice. I have no animosity toward you or anyone else. I love people. It's just that when I write, I speak simply and to the point. In other words, I don't beat around the bush, as the saying goes, with all the fluff of social niceties. I don't have the typing time here at the university.

But you have responded in such a way that even through a computer I since the anger.

Do my observations come across as anger? That I'm not affected by people claiming the Lord told them something, when I can see that such is not the case, that doesn't mean I'm angry. It was simply a statement of fact.

You called me very unkind and untrue names.

I called you no names. I simply observed pride eminating from some of your words. You boasted of your spirituality, and hinted at my alleged lack of spirituality; that's pride. You don't know me from Adam, just as I don't know you. You stated that you sensed anger from my words, and I sensed pride from yours.

The bottom line is that I pointed out, from scripture, and even quoted it, that you were being inconsistent in your use of scripture. Don't translate my holding your feet to the fire into anger and hostility. I'm just being direct and to the point.

Jesus would not Have talked like you have to me.

How do you know this? Scripture shows Him calling legalists, who misuse His words, a den of vipers, and white-washed sepulchres filled with dead men's bones. That doesn't sound very flattering to me.

What Jesus did, my friend, is name-calling. I did nothing of the kind toward you. I've given you the benefit of the doubt.

 

[jiggyfly]

Okay,so,are you saying you don't believe the scripture that says all things are possible through Christ Jesus?Then IF that is what you are saying, what else in the Bible don't you believe?

Wow, you get that out of my "context" response. I don't believe your interpretation of what the scriptures mean, you seem to have a very religious paradigm concerning God and the scriptures. There's a huge difference between man's interpretation and HolySpirit's revelation of the scriptures but you fail to detect any at all. You should still be learning not teaching. But you appear to be unteachable at least concerning this topic and concerning the covenants.


A christian author once stated in one of his books, "most christians read only what they believe rather than believe what they read" I have read the responses on this thread today and see that you apparently cannot stand for any correction. I will be praying for you though.

 

[Blademan]

I mean does everyone here get on their knees everyday,humble themselves before the Lord?

Frankly, I don't see that praying on one's knees makes them any more humble than those who are standing. It's what's in the heart that God observes, not our physical position.

Does everyone here fast and seek the Lord?

Some people can't fast because of physical issues. Those with diabetes or hypoglycemia are required to eat at least every three hours in order to keep their regulatory systems working smoothly.

Do you read your Bible daily?

It's written on my heart, and I spend most of my time with the One of whom the Bible speaks.

Have you sanctified yourself from the things of this world? ??????

Nope, and neither have you. We're both using computers in order to see each other's messages...:shock-animated::rose-animated: