We Should know what we believe about God's Word and be willing To stick with it. Especially the essentials of salvation. And there are some very important doctrines we need to be willing To stand by.
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We Should know what we believe about God's Word and be willing To stick with it. Especially the essentials of salvation. And there are some very important doctrines we need to be willing To stand by.
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Ok lets clear the air a bit.
The Old testament Law was a marriage contract between God and Israel fact. The only way God and Israel could have children was if any one was able to comply with the Law. That obviously did not happen.
So God sent a MAN into the world who happened to be Fathered (begotten) by God himself and a virgin woman named Mary. This man had to be the same as Adam.
Adam was a perfect MAN as God originally made him with no curses of Eden in his mind or body. The exact same likeness was in Jesus. He had no curses of Eden as God was his PATERNAL parent.
Man with the curses of Eden could not fulfill the Law, they had no chance and God knew it from before he placed the curses on Adam and Eve.
So God gives the world a MAN child born of himself and a woman who has no carnal mind and is in communion with his Father his whole life. He was intent in fulfilling the
law for he knew what his mission was. That mission was to become the first Spiritually Born Child of God, and in BECOMING that he BECAME A NEW LIFE GIVING SPIRIT.
This is why we are told that salvation is of the Jews for the law was given to the Jews and it was a Jew in the flesh that fulfilled the law and became the first child of the
marriage of God and Israel.
If Jesus thought it not robbery to be equal with God then there would be two equal Gods, but yet he subjects himself to being a servant and ends up being exalted. (I.E.
BECOMES THE FIRST LIFE GIVING SPIRIT THAT IS NOT GOD, BUT HIS SON.) There are 2 life giving spirits now, there was not until Jesus' glorification after resurrection.
If Jesus were God already then he would have come down to earth being born of a woman and fulfilled the law he wrote then had himself slain and raised himself from
the dead and exalted himself back to his original position. THIS KIND OF DOCTRINE IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD.
We cannot make a Doctrine out of one or two verses and or a misunderstanding of what one WORD means.
The Lord gave me one verse to look at this morning and here it is: 2 Timothy 3:7 "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."
How many people do you know that fit this description stuck in so called "Churches" learning from men?
The Old testament Law was a marriage contract between God and Israel fact. The only way God and Israel could have children was if any one was able to comply with the Law. That obviously did not happen.
So God sent a MAN into the world who happened to be Fathered (begotten) by God himself and a virgin woman named Mary. This man had to be the same as Adam.
Adam was a perfect MAN as God originally made him with no curses of Eden in his mind or body. The exact same likeness was in Jesus. He had no curses of Eden as God was his PATERNAL parent.
Man with the curses of Eden could not fulfill the Law, they had no chance and God knew it from before he placed the curses on Adam and Eve.
So God gives the world a MAN child born of himself and a woman who has no carnal mind and is in communion with his Father his whole life. He was intent in fulfilling the
law for he knew what his mission was. That mission was to become the first Spiritually Born Child of God, and in BECOMING that he BECAME A NEW LIFE GIVING SPIRIT.
This is why we are told that salvation is of the Jews for the law was given to the Jews and it was a Jew in the flesh that fulfilled the law and became the first child of the
marriage of God and Israel.
If Jesus thought it not robbery to be equal with God then there would be two equal Gods, but yet he subjects himself to being a servant and ends up being exalted. (I.E.
BECOMES THE FIRST LIFE GIVING SPIRIT THAT IS NOT GOD, BUT HIS SON.) There are 2 life giving spirits now, there was not until Jesus' glorification after resurrection.
If Jesus were God already then he would have come down to earth being born of a woman and fulfilled the law he wrote then had himself slain and raised himself from
the dead and exalted himself back to his original position. THIS KIND OF DOCTRINE IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD.
We cannot make a Doctrine out of one or two verses and or a misunderstanding of what one WORD means.
The Lord gave me one verse to look at this morning and here it is: 2 Timothy 3:7 "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."
How many people do you know that fit this description stuck in so called "Churches" learning from men?
No, no, no, no, no.If Jesus were God already then he would have come down to earth being born of a woman and fulfilled the law he wrote then had himself slain and raised himself from
the dead and exalted himself back to his original position. THIS KIND OF DOCTRINE IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD.
He gave up being in the form of God and equal God, to take on the form of a servant, and to die on the cross, and be exalted by God.
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No, no, no, no, no.
He gave up being in the form of God and equal God, to take on the form of a servant, and to die on the cross, and be exalted by God.
HE CAN'T HAVE STARTED BY BEING EQUAL WITH GOD TO END UP BEING IN SUBJECTION TO GOD. THAT WOULD BE A DEMOTION. But as he was exalted by
GOD he had to start out as less than God. He was in the form of but not God. And once ALL things are put under him(Jesus), God is excluded. They are not equal.
God is LORD, Jesus Christ is Lord, there is a difference. If they were both part of a GODHEAD and co-equal we would speak of both as LORD.
The Bible does not so why do you?
By the way, when The LORD said to my Lord, sit thou at my right hand, my Lord had already changed forms.
I agree with that one only you lay out no time line or what he was before the GLORIFICATION occurred after his death and resurrection and ascension. A MAN
Do you actually read what your posting???????? Your saying that God demoted himself and is both the one doing the demoting and the one being demoted. LUDICROUS!!!
Not so, not so.Do you actually read what your posting???????? Your saying that God demoted himself and is both the one doing the demoting and the one being demoted. LUDICROUS!!!
This other, who was also God, in the same form and equal to, submitted Himself to God, and saved us.
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Not so, not so.
This other, who was also God, in the same form and equal to, submitted Himself to God, and saved us.
EQUAL TO GOD TO BEGIN WITH BUT IS IN SUBJECTION TO GOD NOW. FAIRY TALES OF THE ANTI CHRIST DOCTRINE OF A TRINITY.
SON OF MAN = HUMAN BEING (body with a spirit from God inside it and feminine to boot)
SON OF GOD= ONE WHO HAS THE LIFE OF GOD DWELLING INSIDE THEM (GODS SPIRIT merged with their own feminine spirit)
Jesus was the Son of Man until he received the Baptism in the Holy Spirit at the river Jordan from his Father and then was the Son of God(SPIRITUALLY) as his spirit was merged with the spirit of God. And God even said so when at that very moment he said "This is MY BELOVED SON IN WHOM I AM WELL PLEASED."
He started as a man just like Adam then became the Son of God(SPIRITUALLY) when he was baptized in the spirit. Then glorified and BECAME A LIFE GIVING SPIRIT JUST LIKE HIS FATHER.
IF YOU DO NOT GET PAST THIS YOU WILL NEVER SEE WHAT YOU ARE TO BE WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HE IS NOW-A LIFE GIVING SPIRIT.
If you have not been given access to the hidden manna then you will never see it and i cannot make you see it as you have not earned the right yet.
Like i said earlier, "Ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."
Lot of words...not much Scripture.EQUAL TO GOD TO BEGIN WITH BUT IS IN SUBJECTION TO GOD NOW. FAIRY TALES OF THE ANTI CHRIST DOCTRINE OF A TRINITY.
SON OF MAN = HUMAN BEING (body with a spirit from God inside it and feminine to boot)
SON OF GOD= ONE WHO HAS THE LIFE OF GOD DWELLING INSIDE THEM (GODS SPIRIT merged with their own feminine spirit)
Jesus was the Son of Man until he received the Baptism in the Holy Spirit at the river Jordan from his Father and then was the Son of God(SPIRITUALLY) as his spirit was merged with the spirit of God. And God even said so when at that very moment he said "This is MY BELOVED SON IN WHOM I AM WELL PLEASED."
He started as a man just like Adam then became the Son of God(SPIRITUALLY) when he was baptized in the spirit. Then glorified and BECAME A LIFE GIVING SPIRIT JUST LIKE HIS FATHER.
IF YOU DO NOT GET PAST THIS YOU WILL NEVER SEE WHAT YOU ARE TO BE WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HE IS NOW-A LIFE GIVING SPIRIT.
If you have not been given access to the hidden manna then you will never see it and i cannot make you see it as you have not earned the right yet.
Like i said earlier, "Ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."
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And why?!
Why do you hate what I showed you?
Because it is ANTI CHRIST doctrine.
I proved my argument.
You are just angry.
You proved you can't see truth when it's right in front of you. And I am not angry just frustrated by stubbornness. But why should I try to make you see what you are
not allowed to see? Lest I find myself trying to undo Gods decision.
Lot of words...not much Scripture.
If you can't see the many scriptures used to prove the point in the post then you sir are spiritually as blind as a bat.
And having said that I bid you farewell for I am just wasting my time.
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