Yes, I agree that Jesus was a human Being - pure and innocent, sinless and Holy.
Please do not lose heart - it is exactly what Satan desires - that you should get so frustrated that you wonder if it is YOU who is wrong! So angered by the futility that you get burn-out repeating the same truth to deaf ears and blind eyes. Honestly, I see your ‘Angered’ capitals and beginnings of insults .... beware: Thats what they want you to do... it will draw the moderators to throw you out!!
I, myself have been through all that - even physically: I visited a church (Pentecostal) searching for a communion group. I couldn’t believe what I heard being taught. I asked questions but got tight lipped responses - nobody knew anything!!!!!! The place was otherwise wonderful: great people, charismatic outpourings, everyone loving each other in brotherhood. I prayed and asked if I should join this church... a few days later I received an unprompted letter saying:
- ‘Do not come back to this church / you are an Anti-Christ ....!’
I wept real tears... through Jesus Christ, by the Holy Spirit of God, ALMIGHTY GOD HAD SPOKEN TO ME... (not the Anti-Christ part!):
- ‘Thank you, Jesus Christ Lord, thank you Yhwh Father God’
But where can I fellowship? Everywhere speaks trinity, elsewhere speaks JW, and a few speak Mormon! I still haven’t found a place...! But online offers a possibility - yet again, nearly all are trinitarian based... and what a load of nonsense is spoken and discussed and debated and argued????
Samson, you are the FIRST I have encountered that speaks a [kind of] truth that mirrors my own reading. Thank you brother... but don’t think I will agree in total as I can see you too have some misunderstandings... forgive me if I present a fuller truth to you - let us work together to put a more cohesive bit of flesh on the bones of gospel truth.
... concerning a church... did Jesus not say that we are to worship God, the Father, not in a building, not on a mountain... but ‘In Spirit and Truth’... basically,
- “Anywhere and everywhere - as long as it is with righteousness, in glory, in truth, in non-selfishness, in sacrifice, in reverence, in repentance, in acknowledgement of almighty God’s majesty....” to wit: In the Name of Jesus Christ!
Well spoken my brother. I too have been tossed out of several "churches" of different denominations. Your fine as long as you agree with what they say and keep your mouth shut. But when the Lord sends you in you go. You may not want to but you go. Sometimes it's actually a word for you through them. Most times it's showing you what
they say that is opposite of what the Spirit has taught you. If you speak up you know your only trying to show them error but like he said they will hate you and even kill you
thinking they are doing God a favor.
Thing is when one is stuck in Church the Lord will not give them the Hidden Manna reserved for the overcomer. Church is something that needs to be overcome in it's
current organizational form. A spiritual exercise if you will. He shows you the truth, you hear what they say then comes a decision GO OR STAY? Do I love the truth more
or the fellowship and comradery more? You go to be alone as Jesus in the wilderness, Paul in the desert, John on Patmos, and there the revelations will flow as the relationship gets stronger and stronger. When you know the voice of he who teaches you, that comes from inside you, that is greater than he who is in the world, you find yourself freed from the games of "church",and have become the Church 24/7. A true disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ. Some of what we do is not meant for those we speak/post to but rather those who read and or hear as you, and I would assume others that are not ready for persecutions just yet so they remain silent. But how can they choose the truth if they never hear/see it? Or unless God allow it.
When the responses we get are nearly 100% negative we wonder, am I fighting against God by trying to reveal this error? Or is there another purpose that I cannot or do not know of yet. As in this case it seems there was but it took several weeks to find that purpose.
And I would say that as we see in part and know in part that none of us has everything nailed down perfectly. But we have the spirit of truth that will guide us into the
whole truth eventually. As long as were willing to be taught. Repent-change your mind.
I had never heard of trinity doctrine until recently and I have been filled with the Spirit nearly 20 years and had encounters with fellow believers, casually, almost weekly, ever since. I can suppose it was my turn to learn about the false doctrine and to defend the truth for myself. Learned a few things in the process.
Guess the subject just never came up on their end and I wouldn't have ever asked. I assumed that when they said they believed that God raised his Son from the dead they
knew it was his SON. Guess that assumption was wrong. But the deceived are many many more than the hearers of the truth, so not surprised by the reactions.
The thing I would get tossed over is what they like to refer to as Universal salvation. They say they chose so everybody else deserves the fruits of their own choice as well.
I say no. God chose you therefore you can't say anything but thank you. Otherwise you try to justify his choice of you by making it about your choice. Chicken or the egg.
Self righteousness. Also a thing to be overcome with a reward for doing so.
There are many many verses in the Bible that speak to this very thing and yet those that call themselves Christians actually want the rest that do not do the same works
they do roasted for eternity and preach just that. I guess that to them is freedom??? Could be the fear factor keeps the sheep in the pen as well. Or the wolves in the pulpit actually believe what they preach. Or just simple spiritual blindness.
As God is Sovereign over all, the only way to get tossed off the site is if it is his will as no one can go against that. So not scared in the least. Kinda like the letter you received,
you got freed from going back!! My comments are not directed to the moderators and they are not derogatory. Just capped for emphasis so when they are read they stand out and won't get missed and usually scripture blown up to show the picture it paints. A picture is worth a thousand words and sometimes requires that many to paint it when posting.
Keep in touch. Back line if you prefer. Pick your subject and lets get to the truth.
In the Lord Jesus' name AMEN.