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The Torah Has Not Been Abolished

The Torah is not just "the 10 commandments", it is the entire Book of Moses, the first five books of the bible. The Torah has many commands. That is the Law of God, which defines everything that is sin.

If I were a roomate of yours I bet I could find one departure from the hundreds of Torah laws. What altar do you sacrifice your lamb on? If you fail one of those 600+ ordinances you would be guilty of all. So where will you take your lamb? Who will inspect and approve that lamb? Does your wife obey it all, or have you stoned the last one? How does your religion mesh with any other but Islamic?
 
Did it not occur to you why the assembly of Jerusalem left out such things like murder and stealing from those "four principles"? Because the Gentiles already knew the Torah, and there was no need to recite the entire Torah to them, except concerning 4 matters that were commonly practiced by the Gentiles, which were contrary to the Torah,

And there's the rub. Jews separate themselves form the Gentiles. Paul had to remind Peter of this when Peter out of habit separated himself from the Gentile brethren when the Jewish believers in Christ came into company. Since all Jews know about abstinence from fornication, and abstaining from idolatry, and it was from the Torah, then you have to take a step back in how you are reading Acts 15:19-21 because how you are applying it, the Gentiles should have known that too, right?

It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not cause trouble for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals, and from blood.
For Moses has been proclaimed in every city from ancient times and is read in the synagogues on every Shabbath
.
Acts 15:19-21

Verse 21 is just a reference to remind Jewish believers in Christ about what Moses had proclaimed in ancient times that is still read in the synagogues on every sabbath, but that is not the whole truth of the matter.

So read it again in the KJV.

Acts 15:18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. 19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: 20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. 21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day. KJV

Moses was preaching about Him, the Lord Jesus Christ. Moses was not preaching the law but preaching Him as it is also still read in the Jewish synagogues on every sabbath of the works & promises of God.

Amazing how using the KJV gets to the heart and truth of the matter, huh?

How much longer will you people just twisting the scriptures to justify your own lawlessness in discarding the Torah? It is written, "hear you earth, I am bringing destruction on this people because they have rejected my Torah".

The question I have to ask you is, are you overlooking what Acts 15:19-21 was really all about? Here is what is written in the KJV. Maybe it is written entirely different in the version you are reading, but you cannot escape the coming conclusion.

Acts 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. 15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, 16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: 17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. 5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. 6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. 7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. 8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

You can't tell me that the law of Moses was not about the Torah. So reread Acts 15:14-21 again in the KJV because it is not saying what you think is being said when it is about preaching him, not the law.
 
The Torah is not just "the 10 commandments", it is the entire Book of Moses, the first five books of the bible. The Torah has many commands. That is the Law of God, which defines everything that is sin.

So where do you take your perfect lamb, to what altar once a year? If you are not attending feasts at Jerusalem, are you not in arrears?
 
The Torah is not just "the 10 commandments", it is the entire Book of Moses, the first five books of the bible. The Torah has many commands. That is the Law of God, which defines everything that is sin.

So we are informed what is sin by the Torah. Where does the Torah solve that sin problem? Uh, it appears it leaves me convicted of several Law of Moses violations without a defense attorney. I am not a Jew so have no standing in any Jewish holy place. When I look at all the laws I see many no man can keep seeing there is no altar at Jerusalem, no official tabernacle. Where is the Ark of the Covenant? Tell me. Shows me. I see the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem. I see Jews still dispersed around the world, most not able to visit Jerusalem every year. Oh, wait, I see a temple and monument to the Islamic "Allah" on that place.

How might you be authorized to ignore Judaic laws you can't obey? How are you excused? By the Roman destruction of the Temple two millennia past? By modern rabbis who make excuses, all sorts of runaround explanations? I am convinced the Mosaic covenant is set aside by God until the age of the Gentiles is completed.
 
So you are saying that you know you are guiltless for profaning the sabbath day because Jesus Christ and His righteousness is in you? That when you honor Him on the sabbath, it is not for keeping the commandment but to worship Him?



You know of the 2 greatest commandments in the O.T. which is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength and to love others whereby all the laws hang on, and so the 2 greatest commandments in the N.T. is to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ & to love others for abiding in Him; see 1 John 3:22-24 KJV So when I find myself having trouble loving my enemies, it is because I believe in Him to be my Good Shepherd, He reminds me that He is in control, lifts my head up to the things above, call on Him for the help for the love I need to love my enemies and give me guidance since it is not possible to live peaceably with all men.

So to love others covers and hangs all the rest of the commandments by because that is what the rest of the commandments are for; showing how to love others by NOT doing those things, but to be able to love others and have the guidance we need as well as the fruits of the Spirit by Jesus Christ, we are to not only believe Jesus Christ is our Savior to rest in Him that we are saved apart from the law and to believe in Jesus Christ as our Good shepherd to help us to follow Him.

1 John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. KJV

The two greatest commands of the Torah do not exclude the other commands, they include the other commands.
 
If I were a roomate of yours I bet I could find one departure from the hundreds of Torah laws. What altar do you sacrifice your lamb on? If you fail one of those 600+ ordinances you would be guilty of all. So where will you take your lamb? Who will inspect and approve that lamb? Does your wife obey it all, or have you stoned the last one? How does your religion mesh with any other but Islamic?

Sacrifices and offerings ceased with the Messiah, hence "you shall cause offerings and sacrifices to cease". And he replaced the Levitical priesthood, hence "he became High Priest". You err in your understanding of the Torah, which causes you to be lawless.
 
And there's the rub. Jews separate themselves form the Gentiles. Paul had to remind Peter of this when Peter out of habit separated himself from the Gentile brethren when the Jewish believers in Christ came into company. Since all Jews know about abstinence from fornication, and abstaining from idolatry, and it was from the Torah, then you have to take a step back in how you are reading Acts 15:19-21 because how you are applying it, the Gentiles should have known that too, right?

It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not cause trouble for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals, and from blood.
For Moses has been proclaimed in every city from ancient times and is read in the synagogues on every Shabbath
.
Acts 15:19-21

Verse 21 is just a reference to remind Jewish believers in Christ about what Moses had proclaimed in ancient times that is still read in the synagogues on every sabbath, but that is not the whole truth of the matter.

So read it again in the KJV.

Acts 15:18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. 19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: 20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. 21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day. KJV

Moses was preaching about Him, the Lord Jesus Christ. Moses was not preaching the law but preaching Him as it is also still read in the Jewish synagogues on every sabbath of the works & promises of God.

Amazing how using the KJV gets to the heart and truth of the matter, huh?



The question I have to ask you is, are you overlooking what Acts 15:19-21 was really all about? Here is what is written in the KJV. Maybe it is written entirely different in the version you are reading, but you cannot escape the coming conclusion.

Acts 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. 15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, 16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: 17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. 5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. 6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. 7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. 8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

You can't tell me that the law of Moses was not about the Torah. So reread Acts 15:14-21 again in the KJV because it is not saying what you think is being said when it is about preaching him, not the law.

The yoke of the Torah is Shabbath observance, appointed time observance, and circumcision observance, not obedience to the rest of the commands that are not "shadows of the Torah". You err in your understanding of the Torah, which causes you to become lawless.
 
So we are informed what is sin by the Torah. Where does the Torah solve that sin problem? Uh, it appears it leaves me convicted of several Law of Moses violations without a defense attorney. I am not a Jew so have no standing in any Jewish holy place. When I look at all the laws I see many no man can keep seeing there is no altar at Jerusalem, no official tabernacle. Where is the Ark of the Covenant? Tell me. Shows me. I see the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem. I see Jews still dispersed around the world, most not able to visit Jerusalem every year. Oh, wait, I see a temple and monument to the Islamic "Allah" on that place.

How might you be authorized to ignore Judaic laws you can't obey? How are you excused? By the Roman destruction of the Temple two millennia past? By modern rabbis who make excuses, all sorts of runaround explanations? I am convinced the Mosaic covenant is set aside by God until the age of the Gentiles is completed.

The Torah does not solve the sin problem, it merely reveals what sin is. The Messiah is the one that solves the sin problem, through the shedding of his blood, which perfects a man, and cuts away sin from the heart, which in turn, causes a man to obey Torah, perfectly, by the airflow of God. As such, when the Messiah became High Priest, he became a priest for a better set-apart place that the temple foreshadowed, heaven itself. That is why we do not need a temple at this moment, because the Messiah has entered the set-apart place to appear before God on our behalf, just as the High Priest entered the most set-apart place of the temple on behalf of Israel. You err in your understanding of God and the Torah, which causes you to become lawless.
 
No one goes to heaven. What part of "they will rule on the earth for 1,000 years" do you not understand? The Messiah is returning to live on the earth, to rule over it. And when the new heaven and new earth is created, the New Jerusalem descends on the new earth, and that is where the people of God will live in next. So there is never a point where the people of God ascend into heaven. Just as the High Priest was the only one that could enter the most set-apart place of the temple, so in likewise manner only the Messiah was appointed to enter heaven on our behalf, who will then return to his people, to raise them from the dead, and give us the earth as our inheritance, just as it is written, "the meek shall inherit the earth". You are devoid of all truth and understanding, and are stubborn, and not listening to someone that is telling you the truth, very plainly. I am at my wits end trying to reason with you, and I am about to just write you off and just block you and stop wasting my time with you. Your biggest error is not just concerning your complete misunderstanding of the rulership of the Messiah on this earth, it is also about you thinking the Torah has been abolished, which subsequently makes you lawless. And that is why I am angry with righteous wrath against you, because you discard the Torah, and find ways to justify this lawlessness. Even the scriptures say, "he who turns his ear from the Torah, even his prayer is an abomination". You are worse than an atheist, because you claim to be a believer, yet you discard the Law of God. It would actually be better that you be an atheist, than to do what you are doing now. If I had the anointing right now I would deliver you over to Satan without hesitation. In the days that I receive the anointing, God willing, I will not spare believers such as yourself. It is written, "judgment begins in the house of God".

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You have quite a temper on you. ''Righteous wrath''. You miss-represented Judaism on the Sabbath and are now making a mountain of a topic that should be a chilled and casual conversation....as the millennium is in the .....future.
 
Sacrifices and offerings ceased with the Messiah, hence "you shall cause offerings and sacrifices to cease". And he replaced the Levitical priesthood, hence "he became High Priest". You err in your understanding of the Torah, which causes you to be lawless.
Lawless??? Learn some respect for others. I see no Christianity in you.
 
The two greatest commands of the Torah do not exclude the other commands, they include the other commands.

The point is; to love others as yourself covers most of those commandments in the Torah for the Jews BUT for the Christians, believing in the Lord Jesus Christ and loving others covers everything for the believer in the New Covenant because by believing in Jesus Christ to be also our Good Shepherd is how we shall have the love we need to love others by as ourselves. Keeping the 4th commandment is no longer required because His righteousness apart from the law is already in us as a testimony that we are saved for why Jesus Christ in us and with us always is able to make us stand in Heaven. That means there will be no sabbath day keepers bragging in Heaven for no flesh shall glory in His Presence for all glory is the Lord's.
 
The yoke of the Torah is Shabbath observance, appointed time observance, and circumcision observance, not obedience to the rest of the commands that are not "shadows of the Torah". You err in your understanding of the Torah, which causes you to become lawless.

Your statement is what causes you to void your faith in Him for why you are guiltless for profaning the sabbath day because Jesus is Lord of the sabbath and you are denying Him as Lord over you but the sabbath day is "lord" over you instead.

You have been proven by the KJV that you did not get the full message of Acts 15:14-21 KJV as reproving the need for the Gentiles to be circumcised and to keep the law of Moses as Moses was reading in ancient times what was still being read in Jewish synagogues in their day on the sabbath that Moses was preaching him as in preaching about God. That is why Jesus said...

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.....46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? KJV

Are you using the NASB? They tend to use lawlessness a lot in place of iniquity in the KJV, but it can lose the message, especially about what that iniquity is. Example below in the KJV.

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

The iniquity is about broadening the way in coming to God the Father by when Jesus is the only way to come to God the Father for anything in prayer ( John 14:13-14 KJV ) , fellowship ( 1 Corinthians 1:9 KJV ), and especially worship ( John 13:31-32 KJV & Philippians 2:5-11 KJV ) as John 14:6 KJV confirms and so climbing up another way is how one is in iniquity as John 10:1 KJV confirms as those that do, gain tongues "for private use" for why they are following a stranger's voice.

They not only gain tongues without interpretation for private use but miracles happen for which they that profess Him claim they are doing in those apostate movements of the "Spirit" where believers fall backwards in confusion in. That is why Jesus identified them as workers of iniquity because that iniquity denies Him for why He is denying them and puts the emphasis of heeding His words as per Matthew 7:13-14 KJV to avoid falling when spirits come and for those who do not heed His words, they will fall when spirits comes.

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. KJV

Do you see the rightly dividing the word of truth here in the KJV? Whereas the NASB uses the term lawlessness in Matthew 7:23 NASB and yet no body falls backwards breaking the laws. Compare the 2 readings at Bible Gateway.

Matthew 7:13-14,21-27 KJV VS NASB

You can see today what happens when believers approach God by way of the Holy Spirit in worship; and that is why they fall backwards because they did not heed His words that Jesus is the only way to come to God the Father by in worship or anything. So the iniquity is NOT going to the Son in coming to God the Father; that means going to the Holy Spirit in worship and prayer in order to come to God the Father by is the iniquity and why they are falling backwards.
 
The two greatest commands of the Torah do not exclude the other commands, they include the other commands.
What definition are you using for "greatest"? The subject is two out of ten. You say the two are equal to the other eight? Loving God according to the first is equal to not being a theif?
 
The Torah does not solve the sin problem, it merely reveals what sin is. The Messiah is the one that solves the sin problem, through the shedding of his blood, which perfects a man, and cuts away sin from the heart, which in turn, causes a man to obey Torah, perfectly, by the airflow of God. As such, when the Messiah became High Priest, he became a priest for a better set-apart place that the temple foreshadowed, heaven itself. That is why we do not need a temple at this moment, because the Messiah has entered the set-apart place to appear before God on our behalf, just as the High Priest entered the most set-apart place of the temple on behalf of Israel. You err in your understanding of God and the Torah, which causes you to become lawless.

So how much Torah do you need to get the point of what sin is? Why not focus on Jesus and His gospel, who solved our sin issue. We discussed "sin consciousness", which if your emphasis is on the problem instead, then that label is owned by you.
 
The point is; to love others as yourself covers most of those commandments in the Torah for the Jews BUT for the Christians, believing in the Lord Jesus Christ and loving others covers everything for the believer in the New Covenant because by believing in Jesus Christ to be also our Good Shepherd is how we shall have the love we need to love others by as ourselves. Keeping the 4th commandment is no longer required because His righteousness apart from the law is already in us as a testimony that we are saved for why Jesus Christ in us and with us always is able to make us stand in Heaven. That means there will be no sabbath day keepers bragging in Heaven for no flesh shall glory in His Presence for all glory is the Lord's.

The Shabbath is no longer required because it is a foreshadow of a greater Shabbath, the millennial Shabbath. Whoever enters the millennial Shabbath fulfills the requirement of the Torah to observe Shabbath.
 
What definition are you using for "greatest"? The subject is two out of ten. You say the two are equal to the other eight? Loving God according to the first is equal to not being a theif?

The Torah is not limited to only 10 commandments. The two greatest commands of the Torah includes all the others, not excludes them. You cannot say, "I obey love my neighbor as myself", yet disobey "you shall not steal". The love your neighbor as yourself includes the command of not stealing from your neighbor. So in likewise manner all the other commands of the Torah hang on the two great commands of the Torah.
 
So how much Torah do you need to get the point of what sin is? Why not focus on Jesus and His gospel, who solved our sin issue. We discussed "sin consciousness", which if your emphasis is on the problem instead, then that label is owned by you.

You need to know all the commands of the Torah to then know what you must stop doing, and what you must start doing. Yeshuah taught the Torah, so if you believe in Yeshuah, you must also believe in the Torah, if you reject the Torah, you also reject Yeshuah, because what Yeshuah taught is based on the Torah.
 
Your statement is what causes you to void your faith in Him for why you are guiltless for profaning the sabbath day because Jesus is Lord of the sabbath and you are denying Him as Lord over you but the sabbath day is "lord" over you instead.

You have been proven by the KJV that you did not get the full message of Acts 15:14-21 KJV as reproving the need for the Gentiles to be circumcised and to keep the law of Moses as Moses was reading in ancient times what was still being read in Jewish synagogues in their day on the sabbath that Moses was preaching him as in preaching about God. That is why Jesus said...

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.....46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? KJV

Are you using the NASB? They tend to use lawlessness a lot in place of iniquity in the KJV, but it can lose the message, especially about what that iniquity is. Example below in the KJV.

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

The iniquity is about broadening the way in coming to God the Father by when Jesus is the only way to come to God the Father for anything in prayer ( John 14:13-14 KJV ) , fellowship ( 1 Corinthians 1:9 KJV ), and especially worship ( John 13:31-32 KJV & Philippians 2:5-11 KJV ) as John 14:6 KJV confirms and so climbing up another way is how one is in iniquity as John 10:1 KJV confirms as those that do, gain tongues "for private use" for why they are following a stranger's voice.

They not only gain tongues without interpretation for private use but miracles happen for which they that profess Him claim they are doing in those apostate movements of the "Spirit" where believers fall backwards in confusion in. That is why Jesus identified them as workers of iniquity because that iniquity denies Him for why He is denying them and puts the emphasis of heeding His words as per Matthew 7:13-14 KJV to avoid falling when spirits come and for those who do not heed His words, they will fall when spirits comes.

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. KJV

Do you see the rightly dividing the word of truth here in the KJV? Whereas the NASB uses the term lawlessness in Matthew 7:23 NASB and yet no body falls backwards breaking the laws. Compare the 2 readings at Bible Gateway.

Matthew 7:13-14,21-27 KJV VS NASB

You can see today what happens when believers approach God by way of the Holy Spirit in worship; and that is why they fall backwards because they did not heed His words that Jesus is the only way to come to God the Father by in worship or anything. So the iniquity is NOT going to the Son in coming to God the Father; that means going to the Holy Spirit in worship and prayer in order to come to God the Father by is the iniquity and why they are falling backwards.

Obedience to the commands of God does not nullify belief, it demonstrates it. You are in error.
 
The Shabbath is no longer required because it is a foreshadow of a greater Shabbath, the millennial Shabbath. Whoever enters the millennial Shabbath fulfills the requirement of the Torah to observe Shabbath.

Can you quote the scripture that the observance of the sabbath will be continued in the 1000 year reign of Christ? Are you sure you are not confusing the scripture for the time the Jews would be keeping the sabbath during the great tribulation period where the third Temple is built and they are continuing the sacrifices then?

I cannot recall the scripture now but I believer there is one describing the times during the millennium reign where the offering of the lamb was done in remembrance of what Christ has done whereas during the great tribulation, it will be for an offering for sins for why it is done on the sabbath. I do not recall the sabbath being the significant day for that offering of the lamb during the reign of Christ. It could very well be done on the Lord's day, the first day of the week.

As it was and still is, in 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 KJV, that was when the early churches in the N.T. gathered for church services because that was when collection was done whereby from the bounty collected, they were to set aside a portion for the support of the missionaries in the field so as to avoid any special collection when Paul or others come to avid the appearance of covetousness. That way faith is in God to provide what the church was to go on regardless of the portion from the bounty give that will be set aside for the missionaries in the field.

1 Corinthians 16:1Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. 2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. KJV

2 Corinthians 9:5 Therefore I thought it necessary to exhort the brethren, that they would go before unto you, and make up beforehand your bounty, whereof ye had notice before, that the same might be ready, as a matter of bounty, and not as of covetousness. KJV
 
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